Rose statement on ceasing UK bike sales; Lukas Pöstlberger stung in the mouth by a bee, abandons TDF; LTNs compared to Holocaust by disgruntled driver; Jumbo-Visma boss thrown off Tour after mechanical doping check row + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
Jumbo-Visma team manager Merijn Zeeman excluded from Tour de France, after losing it with UCI staff checking Roglic' bike for 'technological fraud'
The furore arose when the bike that Primoz Roglic was riding on yesterday’s stage was take by UCI staff to perform X-ray control, that involves dismantling the bike to check for possible mechanical doping.
Zeeman became incensed that the bike was damaged during the check, with the crankset needing to be replaced afterwards. In a statement from Jumbo-Visma, Zeeman said: “I got upset when the commissioner dismounted the crankset from Primoz’s bike. We stand for a fair sport and that includes checks, but that must be done in a reasonable way. Despite that, I should have kept myself cool and approached the UCI commissioner in a more respectful way.”
The UCI say that Zeeman has been excluded for “intimidation, insults and improper behaviour of a team member towards a UCI member”, and was also given a CHF 2,000 fine.
For the record, the check shown that the yellow jersey bike was in accordance with regulations. In their statement, the UCI added: “The UCI has made the fight against technological fraud one of its priorities to ensure the credibility of results, and calls on all cycling families (riders, teams and organisers) to join forces to ensure the reputation of our sport.”
Zeeman will be allowed to “remain part of the Tour de France team” according to Jumbo-Visma, but will not be able to perform official functions within accredited areas for the final three stages.
New poll from Transport for London shows majority in favour of Low Traffic Neighbourhoods
New @TfL poll shows majority of people support their local LTN and only a small number are against. https://t.co/spIlfAv2V6
— APPGCW (@allpartycycling) September 17, 2020
As tensions continue to build over the sudden appearance of cycle lanes and planters to stop rat-running drivers, TfL have found that despite the noise, most people are still in favour of Low Traffic Neighbourhood (LTN) schemes.
The representative survey of 1,007 Londoners found that 51% of people agreed with the implementation of LTNs in their local areas during the pandemic, and 51% also agreed that these should become long-term subject to consultation processes. Just 16% were against LTNs entirely.
In another survey with a representative sample of 914 people, 81% agreed that cycling and walking are good for London, with 67% agreeing that there has ‘never been a better time to take up cycling’.
"I think we may have hit peak tasteless": people are dumbfounded after LTN schemes compared to the Holocaust and Gaza Strip
Some people in London Fields are locked in we cannot come our own Borough. Bus Gate on BOTH END Richmond Road and Lansdowne Drive. This has seriously restricted our Freedom of Movement.This isn’t Gaza Strip!!!
— Save Hackney (@HackneySave) September 17, 2020
I really hope that you mean that as a joke. A very bad joke.
— Billýflows (@Billflows1) September 17, 2020
It seems a small number of Londoners have reached peak panic mode over not being able to drive quite so freely around some of the most polluted streets in Europe, comparing Low Traffic Neighbourhood schemes to war zones and genocide.
The above conversation is in reference to plans to start camera enforcement around planters installed in London Fields, Hackney. Cllr Jon Burke said: “We don’t want to make a penny from Hackney’s drivers, but initial monitoring of London Fields filters shows that camera enforcement is necessary at the Cat and Mutton bridge to discourage drivers from ignoring closure signs. Creating cleaner, greener streets for everyone isn’t an easy process, but with among the highest road casualty and air pollution rate in the country, it is an absolutely necessary one.”
What the actual fuck pic.twitter.com/QOk6yMXyRy
— Hackney Cyclist (@Hackneycyclist) September 17, 2020
Yup, I think we may have hit peak tasteless with the anti LTN crew. But I’m not even sure of that. “I have to drive a bit longer round and I’m a nervous type” would have been a bit more appropriate.
— Simon Munk (@psimonk) September 17, 2020
An article from Wednesday’s edition of the Ilford Recorder is also causing jaws to drop online, after a resident compared a LTN scheme in Barkingside to his father’s experience as a Holocaust survivor.
Warren Grynberg told the Ilford Recorder: “It’s all come back to me, I’m terrified of being locked in.
“When I’m in the car and I see a road closed sign, I feel horrified.
“It may sound ridiculous to someone in 2020 but that’s how I feel as a second-generation Holocaust survivor.”
A joint statement from Barkingside Labour Councillors recognised residents’ ‘fears’ but added: “We strongly encourage residents to take part in the public consultation exercise.
“This really will influence the final location of the closures. We have three months to develop a really good scheme for South Barkingside”.
Highway Code review taking place this morning, with a 'hierarchy of road users' and safe passing distances on the agenda
Chaired by MPs Ruth Cadbury MP Selaine Saxby, the government has launched a consultation on changes to benefit active travel. One of these is establishing a hierarchy of road users into the Highway Code, which would “ensure that those who can do the greatest harm have the greatest responsibility to reduce the danger or threat they may pose to others”; which sounds similar to the ‘presumed liability’ laws throughout most of Europe – the UK is one of only four countries that doesn’t have such a system in place.
Other proposed changes include:
– Drivers and cyclists will have to give way to pedestrians waiting to cross a side road or junction
– Introducing clarifying existing rules on pedestrian priority on pavements and that drivers and riders should give way to pedestrians crossing or waiting to cross the road
– Establishing guidance on safe passing distances and speeds when overtaking cyclists or horse riders, and ensuring that they have priority at junctions when travelling straight ahead
Cyclists should be encouraged to take up the primary position, and drivers educated about safe passing of cyclists, pedestrians and motorcyclists. New Rule 163 – at least 1.5m at <30mph, at least 2m at >30mph to prevent injuries, fear & intimidation @RogerGeffen @allpartycycling
— Leigh Day Cycling (@LeighDayCycling) September 18, 2020
Speakers so far have included Roger Geffen of Cycling UK, who has proposed that cyclists should be encouraged to take up the primary position. He also says new rules should be made on safe passing distances “to prevent injuries, fear and intimidation”, suggesting a distance of 2 metres for drivers passing cyclists at over 30mph.
Canada: police search after man knocked cyclists off their bikes using a telescopic camera pole
Durham Police (that’s the Durham Region in Ontario, Canada) have released an image of a suspect (above) who is accused of injuring two cyclists and a pedestrian by tripping up the cyclists with a telescopic camera pole.
The two female victims who were on bikes reported that they observed a man walking on the Whitby Waterfront trail, ‘yelling’ at cyclists as they passed him. The suspect then extended his camera pole into the path of the cyclists which struck one of the victims’ bikes, causing the two to collide. Two pedestrians were also hit by the bikes, with both cyclists requiring medical treatment and one of the pedestrians suffering minor injuries.
The suspect, described as 50-60 years of age and around 5″10 tall, left on foot without stopping to assist his victims – investigators are still trying to identify him.
Will he bee ok? Lukas Pöstlberger abandons Tour de France after being stung in the mouth by a bee
🇫🇷 #TDF2020
unfortunately @Poesti_92 had do abandon the race due to that incident.— BORA – hansgrohe (@BORAhansgrohe) September 18, 2020
The unfortunate Austrian is not hive-ing a nice day at all, after his team Bora-Hansgrohe reported that he was forced to abandon on stage 19 after taking a bee sting to the mouth.
The 28-year-old was treated while he was still moving initially, but eventually had to dismount and head to hospital after suffering a suspected allergic reaction.
Pöstlberger will be in pain both physically and mentally after bowing out just two days before the Tour arrives in Paris, having got through the tough days in the mountains; it also means that Peter Sagan will be without an important teammate as he looks to wrestle the green jersey back from Sam Bennett.
Hopefully Pöstlberger’s recovery will be speedy, and he’ll be back on the team buzz soon (sorry).
Bora-Hansgrohe confirm Lukas Pöstlberger suffered an anaphylactic reaction to bee sting, but "is already feeling better again"
🇫🇷 #TDF2020@Poesti_92 was taken to hospital after he was stung from a bee and had an anaphylactic reaction. but he is already feeling better again. Our team doc had him just on the phone and we can confirm nobody has to worry anymore. but thank you for all our support!
— BORA – hansgrohe (@BORAhansgrohe) September 18, 2020
Thankfully it looks like a speedy recovery, with Bora-Hansgrohe’s team doctor taking the sting out of the bad news by confirming no one should be worried for Pöstlberger’s health… phew!
"We hope to soon be able to offer our bikes again to the UK": Rose Bikes publish statement explaining why they have stopped selling to the UK
As we reported earlier this week, a leaked email from a would-be UK customer of the German retailers said that Rose would no longer be shipping bikes to the UK for ‘legal reasons’; and they’ve now clarified the reasons in a full statement.
Rose say:
As some of you have already noticed, we recently had to discontinue the assembly and shipping of ROSE bikes for the UK. This was a difficult decision for us, so we want to take some time to explain it to you.
In the UK, bicycles are constructed differently than in the rest of Europe: The market standards and laws in Great Britain, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland clearly convey that the front brake lever must be mounted on the right-hand side of the handlebar and the rear brake lever on the left-hand side. For the rest of Europe, it is the exact opposite.
With the technical complexity of our bikes increasing, we are facing the ever-growing challenge of being able to offer affordable ROSE bikes with a high level of quality and safety. And because we want to shorten our delivery times for our customers, this summer we decided to gradually shut down the configuration of bikes, so that we are able to maintain our usual standards. Installing the brake cables and brake levers on the opposite side would require the type of special solution for the UK that we simply can’t realise right now.
We want to be able to guarantee each and every ROSE bike rider that they are sitting on a safe bike and keep the same level of quality. As soon as we are done with the transition in our production and get more clarity about the future of doing business with the UK, we will look for a long-term solution. Because we hope to soon be able to offer our bikes again to the UK and its vital market.
Until then, you can still find our bikes on www.rosebikes.com and in our stores in Germany and Switzerland. We’re hoping for your understanding.
On the Rose Bikes UK website it’s no longer possible to buy full bikes, with just parts and accessories for sale.
Tour de France stage 19: Søren Kragh Andersen breaks away with 10km to go
💪🇩🇰 Søren Kragh Andersen goes alone! He managed to open a 35” gap.
💪🇩🇰 Søren Kragh Andersen attaque ! Il a 35” secondes d’avance ! #TDF2020 #TDFunited pic.twitter.com/7sUjbC7Yam
— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) September 18, 2020
Can the powerful Dane hold on? His lead has grown to about 40 secs at the time of writing after taking advantage of a hesitant peloton.
It looks like Andersen has done it
🇩🇰 Søren Kragh Andersen is increasing the gap with just over 5km to go!
L’écart continue de grandir pour 🇩🇰 Søren Kragh Andersen à 5km de l’arrivée : 52″ ! #TDF2020 pic.twitter.com/eBLRstoLsn
— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) September 18, 2020
The audacious attack has paid off, and Anderson is clear with 2km to go. He doesn’t know the time gap so he’s still going full gas, but he’ll be relieved to find out he’s about a minute clear very soon.
Søren Kragh Andersen wins stage 19
SØREN!!!🎉🏆
What a mega effort from @kraghsoren to win the stage after another brilliant tactical display from the guys in the finale!🙌🏻#KeepChallenging #CreatingMemories pic.twitter.com/9QvuHnzOt2
— Team Sunweb (@TeamSunweb) September 18, 2020
A perfectly executed attack from the Dane and Team Sunweb nets him his second stage win of the 2020 Tour de France – full report here.
Tiverton cyclists warned not to cycle under canal bridges after woman suffers serious injury
A female cyclist was saved by a community patrol boat on the Grand Western Canal in Devon after falling off under a bridge.
In Your Area report that the woman – a nurse in her 60s – fell off after hitting the brakes while cycling underneath East Manley Bridge near Tiverton on Wednesday afternoon, and was transported back to the basin by the patrol boat before going to hospital.
A spokesperson for the Grand Western Canal rangers said that cycling under the canal bridges was prohibited, and the incident highlighted the need to heed the signs along the canal path route: “We are sorry to hear about this accident but are pleased to hear that the community patrol boat was able to help the lady”, said the spokesperson.
“It does highlight the importance of following the instructions on the signs at the bridges. The canal rangers will always speak to any inconsiderate cyclists we meet failing to take due care at bridges, but we do have to fit this in around a very demanding workload just keeping on top of the basic maintenance of the country park.
“Unfortunately within any user group there always seems to be a minority of belligerent and inconsiderate people who think only of themselves; whether it is cyclists riding dangerously, dog walkers failing to pick up their dog’s mess, speeding boaters or anglers leaving rubbish and discarded tackle.
“The latest approach reflected in the new signage at the bridges is to try and get cyclists to appreciate the dangers they pose to others if cycling under the bridges – especially more vulnerable towpath users. We will back this up by speaking to the cyclists we meet, explaining to them the dangers posed by cycling under the bridges where this is prohibited.”
While there is no countrywide law that prevents cycling under canal bridges in the UK, the Canal and River Trust advise cyclists to exercise caution and respect local by-laws.
Their guidance says: “Remember that pedestrians have priority. If you encounter oncoming pedestrians or cyclists beneath bridges, give way to them and be extra careful at bends and entrances where your visibility may be limited. It’s a different pace to cycling on the roads.
“While the majority of our waterways are open to cyclists, please keep an eye out for ‘no cycling’ signs along the way. You may need to dismount where needed and use common sense in busy or restricted areas, recognising that pedestrians have priority.”
18 September 2020, 08:41
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If you could show me a cycling helmet that's designed to protect me when I'm hit by a motor vehicle that would be really helpful. All the ones I've seen so far are only intended to protect me if I fall off a bike.
I do not achieve the speeds of pro-cyclists (45mph+) when I cycle to work or the shops, just as I do not achieve 200mph+ when I drive to the shops.
LLMs are indeed an enormous bag of words, but they are also a clever bag of words as when they pick the next most probable word, they are using a multi-dimensional mappings or relations between words and so they appear to communicate like a human, but they are only simulacrums and have no understanding or intelligence.
The article does say that the parrot lived in Scarponi's son's warehouse. It is sad that Franky reportedly died in the factory fire, but apparrotly he had been warned several times about smoking near to packaging materials. Although the parrot (a blue and yellow macaw) is native to Central and South America, it could probably survive in the wild in Europe, as long as winters weren't too harsh. But this article proves beyond all doubt that parrots are polycyclic.
Clever is not a synonym for enormous ;-)
Try Specsavers
Personally, I think the belkin one was a vast improvement over pretty much all the rabobank offerings - blue and orange - bleuch! Although the blanco kit was much better than either of them (or the subsequent visma ones).
Why do these medical professionals never mention shit driving or infrastructure? And why do they never say anything about all the other activities that helmets might also help with e.g. Driving or being a pedestrian.
I have the current generation of 4iiii heart-rate monitor. It's very good . Will I , when the current one eventually fails , buy this new 4iiii , no. Why you may ask . Well it looks like a proprietary fastener . We all know about proprietary standards and the absolute hassle of sourcing replacements and the associated costs.
I like castorama and Astana kits pictured here.
55 thoughts on “Rose statement on ceasing UK bike sales; Lukas Pöstlberger stung in the mouth by a bee, abandons TDF; LTNs compared to Holocaust by disgruntled driver; Jumbo-Visma boss thrown off Tour after mechanical doping check row + more on the live blog”
It seems that the problem
It seems that the problem with LTN is often that the people who live there tend to support them, and the people who want to drive through them to get somewhere else tend to oppose them?
(Not always, of course, there have been plenty of news stories where residents in LTN complain because they have to drive around the block to get to “their” (sorry, burt!) parking space outside their house…).
51% support and 16% against.
51% support and 16% against. I’d say it was close to dead cert they will remove them in that case…
So Twitter has invoked Godwin
So Twitter has invoked Godwin’s Law and its only 10.30 on the live blog!
One of the problems is the
One of the problems is the majority of that majority don’t vote Tory. More interested in getting back in and pandering to their core voters than actually delivering benefit to the whole community.
It also varies wildly from
It also varies wildly from borough to borough. Southwark has the lowest car ownership per household of anywhere in the country and the council have generally done a good job of implementation. Lambeth are similar, as are boroughs like Camden or Islington. They’re not all perfect but I would think that the majority of their measures will remain in place, with maybe some tweaking based on the ongoing live consultation. Whereas Wandsworth or Kensington & Chelsea, who didn’t even take the funds they were entitled to to implement them, seemingly installed some half-heartedly, setting them up to fail and have begun to reverse their measures as soon as certain lobbies started shouting loudly. The odd thing is that all boroughs, certainly central ones, have already signed up to implement them by 2025. People voted for their councillors knowing that these were coming. I wonder if the better implementation in some boroughs was because they already had plans in place to gradually roll out and meet the 2025 target, whereas the others (all tory led) maybe hadn’t begun to plan, hoping for a change in direction/Mayor/DfT policy before they had to bother.
An Edirorial in the
An Edirorial in the Southampton Echo suggests similar. We shouldn’t be too surprised that Conservatives are being conservative and just defending the status quo without recognising that change has to be made or actually having any alternative plans. It’s only their own governments policy! https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/18723783.letter—southampton-tories-embarrassment-city/
Down the road in Bournemouth
Down the road in Bournemouth (Poole, Christchurch) the everyone but the Tories Alliance has lost a confidence vote this week – the whipped-up manic reaction to the handful of traffic measures they put forward probably didn’t help them, so they deserve some marks from us for effort and sacrifice.
there was a good article “Council closes off rat-run” that got dozens of comments, many negative heaping derision on “selfish” residents and – I struggle to believe this is genuine – saying things like “imagine telling a child that playing in the street is a good idea”. Well quite.
markieteeee wrote:
I think you give people too much credit.
Maybe hahah. Does this work:
Maybe hahah. Does this work: people voted for councillors who were committed to LTNs by 2025.
So what did the UCI use to
So what did the UCI use to dismount the crankset – a block of wood and a hammer – was Jim Davidson their mechanic/qualified time served exspurt fitter for the day?
The Grauniad has a op-ed
The Grauniad has a op-ed today, which says that the money spaffed up the wall on the Garden Bridge project is pretty much the same amount of money which is required to fix Hammersmith Bridge…
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/18/hitachi-nuclear-test-hs2-huge-projects-politicians-wasteful
That’s just the cost to
That’s just the cost to stabilise it to let pedestrians & cyclists use it again, the cost to really fix it is nearly 4 times that much. It’s been scandolously left to rot like this purely on the basis of partisan politicking and who ultimately pays for it, the mayor wants the government to foot the bill, the government want the mayor to pay instead and both are playing who will blink first and not let the bridge collapse in the Thames.
I’d be delighted if my
I’d be delighted if my central gov tax money went on fixing a smallish bridge in that London, because it’ll help my economic well-being as all those of my betters who work in London make the money that keeps northern spongers and wasters like me going.
But don’t even think about doing the same in reverse cos we don’t deserve it, your worships.
Actually I do hope the bridge is saved as it’s a nice piece of Victoriana but FFS we’ve all been fleeced for your Crossrail and still you ask us to prop you up? Enough!
Back in 2004 the Leeds
Back in 2004 the Leeds Supertram scheme was cancelled in an announcement in Parliament and minutes later £340m of funding was announced to support transport improvements to the London Olympic bid so no change to funding priorities after all these years.
I totally agree,that’s the
I totally agree,that’s the frustrating thing the money is already there in London,it gets a ridiculous amount of subsidy compared to other parts of the country for infrastructure projects just like this,it doesnt need national government intervention with it, its just you get the impression the key parties involved
would rather play politics with it,than just roll their sleeves up and get on with it and the casualty may well be we lose a valuable Victorian piece of engineering as a result.
I don’t think London gets any
I don’t think London gets any subsidy.
It’s one of the few areas of the country that doesn’t.
This argument irritates me.
This argument irritates me.
Yes, London gets more public spending than other areas, it also pays far more in tax than it receives in public spending. The difference is staggering. The biggest losers are people in Surrey, Buckinghamshite and Berkshire who pay southern amounts of tax and get northern levels of public expenditure.
London and the South East of England are the only English regions which are net contributors to public spending. East of England is about even, SW, Midlands, Yorkshire, Lancashire and the North East just suck up money from the rest of the country
London gets a lot of spending – a disproportionate amount- but it is far less than it would get if it got to keep all the tax revenues it generates.
Sorry, what are these
Sorry, what are these “southern amounts of tax” and in which dis-United Kingdom should tax revenue only be spent in the locality in which it is raised? If I earn more than my neighbour and hence pay more tax can I have the road resurfaced just outside my house?
People in the wonderfully mis-spelt Buckinghamshite pay the same vat and income tax rates as the rest of England and Wales. If they are paying more tax it might be on Council Tax (though I think not) or because salaries are quite high compared with the rest of the country.
I would not pretend that there is no deprivation in Buckinghamshite but please visit Morecambe or Dewsbury or Pontypridd or Shettleston rather than Marlow and then tell me it’s unfair on the hard pressed in the South East. Perhaps count the people in queues outside the food bank?
I thought the bridge belonged
I thought the bridge belonged to the two boroughs at the ends of the bridge… so why is the public transport ticket payer is expected to cough up all the costs? Govt should pay and restore TfL grant.
Hammersmith & Fulham council
Hammersmith & Fulham council “own” the upkeep of the bridge, TfL “own” the bus services across the bridge, TfL pledged 25million to help with the repairs, but then Covid hit, and their finances dropped through a hole, so TfL as part of negotiations for the next funding covid bail out, have asked that the government give them the cash to meet their repair pledge,plus the cash to provide a temporary replacement bridge. This while TfL are committed to spending 1.2billion on Silvertown tunnel,which noone wants apart from TfL,though they claim if it were cancelled the money couldn’t be used elsewhere. If only there were some elected representative in London with some financial oversight and power to tell TfL and the councils to sort themselves out…
Youd think the current world
Youd think the current world champion breaking a wrist in a crash, whilst leading the biggest multi stage tour event in their racing calendar,putting them out of the forthcoming worlds would get a brief mention.
Am I missing something with
Am I missing something with LTNs? they only close a road at one end don’t they? It’s not like they’re putting in resident only gates etc at each end of the road. I really don’t get the fuss, these are small local roads aren’t they? so it’s not like anyone is having to drive very far to get around them.
I’d suggest that the gentleman who feels horrified at a road closed sign gets some professional help, that’s no way to live your life.
No, you’re not missing
No, you’re not missing anything. You sum it up perfectly.
Good, I’m glad I’ve not
Good, I’m glad I’ve not missed a really crucial point, and glad that all of the other problems in the UK, rampant inequality, food poverty, environmental collapse have all been sorted so we can now focus on the really key things, like the apparent right to drive anywhere you like.
I live in a road with
I live in a road with filtered entry – and no through route. Do you know what happens on sunny evenings like this past week? Children run about, scoot, ride their bikes, mums and dads hang about chatting, residents walk their dogs or let them meander about, doors are open as residents walk in and out from the street / home. There are no cars – only those belonging to residents or the occasional delivery. Oh, the horror, the horror . . . . .
I’m currently living through
I’m currently living through this same nightmare.
On the Lukas Pöstlberger
On the Lukas Pöstlberger story: I had a wasp in my mouth the other evening. I thought it was a leaf or some sort of ‘tree debris’ but I spat it out and it was a live f-ing wasp! It scraped the inside of my mouth, I think (it was sore), but it didn’t actually sting (I think). I suspect the wasp was as startled as I had been.
(I’ve made a point of riding with my mouth firmly closed, ever since…).
A couple of months back I too
A couple of months back I too was stung on the tongue by what looked like a hornet as I spat it out. For the record I didn’t have an allergic reaction and finished my 25mile evening tour de N Bucks. I still haven’t perfected the technique of cycling with my mouth closed.
Last Friday, cycling home had
Last Friday, cycling home had a sudden pain on my shoulder. Stopped and had to disrobe (not a pretty sight). Wasp flew out when I shook out my top. The top has a quite a wide neck so it must have flown in that.
Took another 15 mins to get home where I demanded my wife for first aid and she promptly removed a barb. Hurt for ages to the extent it woke me up for the first 2 nights, leaving me to apply the anthisan in a hope to get back to sleep.
If there was a barb then it
If there was a barb then it was probably a bee and not a wasp.
I don’t think they normally
I don’t think they normally get trapped in your clothing or get force applied to them when you pull your tight top off !
(Barb was just generic, not sure if it is the correct term).
Stinger.
Stinger.
Sounds painful and annoying losing sleep ;-(
You were lucky then. About a
You were lucky then. About a month ago I was cycling along at a nice pace and was suddenly hit in the left corner of my mouth by “something”. I instantly started to push and spit it out but was too slow. It stung me right in the corner on the outside of my mouth so the something was a wasp. For days I had a swollen left cheek as the swelling (poison) slowly sank to my bottom jaw. I had a bottom lip like an inner tube. I did take a picture to send to a mate but it was such an ugly mush I decided not to send it. In the meantime I am back to my usual handsome self.
A bee flew into my mouth/I
A bee flew into my mouth/I sucked it into my mouth on my first fun ride since starting work, on my first day off, mid july, large and rough, spat it out quick, but it had already stung the roof of my mouth, and left it’s sting in. Managed to scrape it out. Spent the rest of next bit of the ride worrying about anaphalatic shock, luckily didn’t happen, but did swell up a bit. Made me feel really odd for the rest of the day and the next.
> that’s how I feel as a
> that’s how I feel as a second-generation Holocaust survivor
I think it is a similar level of suffering.
I got a wasp sting on my eye
I got a wasp sting on my eye socket last week and I have holocaust survivors in my family. Do I get the prize and can that be a 2021 Trek Madone please? Just saying.
Beehive yourself!
Beehive yourself!
Does anyone else find Roses
Does anyone else find Roses explanation utter BS ? Its not rocket science The cables or hoses are just swapped over ? How come their sytem can’t flag a bike as being UK spec and a reminder to which way the brakes go ? Seems a pretty uncomplicated action for whoever wrote their system. We’ve just had something similar for our technicians when assembling tools, they can’t physically proceed to the next step unless they verify on screen they’ve checked an item. Takes but a moment but does prompt them to do it.
It would be easier to believe
It would be easier to believe them if they weren’t still selling bikes to the Republic of Ireland with
That’s what I was going to
That’s what I was going to add. If they ship to Ireland still then Rose’s argument is nonsense.
RoI bike shop worker here.
RoI bike shop worker here. The difference is that the right/front, left/rear brake thing is law in the UK, but not the RoI, even though we also drive/cycle on the left, so there’s nothing stopping Rose selling (Euro-spec) bikes here – we get a mix of UK & Euro-spec bikes, of all brands (the only differences are the brakes and spoke reflectors (1 white one, or two orange ones, per wheel)). Some brands only supply UK-spec bikes (Giant, Ridgeback) and others supply a mix (Treks might come from the UK or NL warehouses). If a customer wants the brakes changed on a drop-bar bike it’s a pain (bar-tape and different cable/pipe lengths), so I can see Rose’s point. It’s also why many lower-volume cars were never made in RHD (Fiat Barchetta, Lancia Delta Integrale, BMW E30 M3, VW Golf G60, etc).
Exactly!
Exactly!
‘In the UK, bicycles are constructed differently than in the rest of Europe’ – It’s just a brake cable swap, FFS, it’s not like the whole drive train is on the opposite side.
Yesus.
STiG911 wrote:
more likely an internally routed hose these days
no more popping the cables out of the levers to flip the brakes
HoarseMann wrote:
Correct, but it’s just a case of switching the hoses and making sure you take any air out of the system. It’s not complicated, many other companies like Merida and Cannondale ship them Euro style to bike shops who then have to change it around. Best to swap is Sram Guide and you just swap the whole lever over.
Direct to customer is a different story though if they aren’t doing any assembly after they leave the factory in Asia. Then it’s up to the customer.
I suspect they are not
I suspect they are not building to order anymore but just trying to generate stock as quickly as possible.
The pound has dropped in value again recently, so maybe the margins are not as good (certainly more fluctuating) than the euro. That and upcoming Brexit uncertainty, if they are struggling to meet demand as it is, you can see why the U.K. market got the chop.
Is this bit pertinent?
Is this bit pertinent?
‘As soon as we are done with the transition in our production and get more clarity about the future of doing business with the UK, we will look for a long-term solution’
You see, Rose (like all the German car industry, Italian Prosecco producers . . . ) should be ‘begging’ to do business with the UK. Shouldn’t they?
Anyone know if Warren Gynberg
Anyone know if Warren Gynberg is the person who posted this https://m.facebook.com/PolJewishRoots/posts/636517859741712/ in 2014. Seems the impact of his family story has given him a warped view of the world if it is, its not a common name
Solution for Rose set all
Solution for Rose set all bikes up the UK way, it is basically the correct way around, see also motorbikes.
While they are at it drive on the left, driving on the right kills a statistically detectable number of people because most people are right eye dominant and avoiding oncoming traffic is easier if you are on the right of the vehicle.
You’re right – the “correct”
You’re right – the “correct” way.
Europe and the USA should up their game and change!
Do you people also have your
Do you people also have your shifters backwards? Or is your front brake your rear shifter?
– Concerned American
werics wrote:
most important brake and most important shifter, both on the dominant hand, why would you want it otherwise?
also f and r brake levers are the same but f and r shifters are different.
I’m with you. I live in the
I’m with you. I live in the US. Coming from a moto background I’ve always set my bikes up R front L rear. Bonus points as it gives me an excuse not to let others ride my bike : )
You are right about the
You are right about the motorbikes
But i think that the majorety of the world wins.. therefore the whole world should.
Drive on the right side of the road use the metric system and adapt to bikes set up the european way
If you’re right dominant you
If you’re right dominant you are a failed human specimen
Also, motorbikes place the
Also, motorbikes place the most important control, the clutch, on what should be the more skilled hand – the left