Cervelo’s new P4 may have been turning heads at Interbike, but it’s not the only good looking new aero bike on the block. Scott’s all-new Plasma 2 frame is a looker too with aspirations to be top dog. Scott’s objective for the Plasma 2 was simple: to make the fastest time trial/triathlon bike in the world and they have obviously spent a lot of time and money trying to make it so. Two models in the ’09 range get the new P2 frame, the Plasma LTD and the Plasma C20 The bike boasts a claimed frame weight of 1390g for the medium with a 380g frame (a Cervelo P3C is roughly 1300g and the P4 is likely to be around the same) and there is a definite accent on aero shapes and narrow tube profiles: the chainstays are a mere 11mm deep and in all it’s main dimension bar one the Plasma 2 has a narrower profile than the Cervelo P3, interestingly from the pictures we’ve seen it looks like Cervelo too have gone for narrow tube profiles on the P4.
The frame features a number of details designed to boost its aero advantage, most striking are probably the front and rear wheel cut outs – the rear wheel can be adjusted to give the tightest possible clearances – down to the width of a credit card, say Scott. To allow for this Scott have also come up with a very nifty way of adjusting the brake position to accommodate different wheel and tyre choices.
The seat tube features a dramatic cutout shape to give shelter to the back wheel, as does the downtube for the front. Scott claims that this gives a combined 127 deg of “seamless wheel coverage” (47deg at the front and 80 deg at the rear). Ironically Cervelo, who claim to have pioneered the front wheel cutout have abandoned it on the P4 because they now say it doesn’t give any advantage outside of the wind tunnel – cynics might wonder why it’s taken them 13 years to find this out. The new Trek Equinox, on which. Trek insiders say, they spent “a shed-load” (that’s a technical term apparently) of R&D money also does without the front wheel cut out. As with all cutting edge aero bikes, the C2’s fork is fully integrated, and Scott have even given the bottle bosses the aero treatment. The bottom bracket is another area that Scott have obviously given a lot of thought – coming up with a system they dub the Speed Skeg. This aero optimised bottom bracket has a Down fin that channels wind around the rear wheel, allowing for narrower downtube construction, and helping with the internal cable routing. No surprise then that Scott say this is the most sophisticated carbon structure they have ever built. Using their own Integrated Molding (Scott’s spelling) Process 5 (IMP5) the five main tubes on the bike are one structure with only the seat stays and the ends of the Twin Turbo Aero Shock chainstays being added afterwards. Climbing on to one of our current hobby horses for a moment, the laws of physics being immutable and what’s required of all aero bikes being the same you would expect |TT bikes, like Formula 1 cars to all more or less look the same. It does seem that bikes designed purely in the wind tunnel have a particular look as do those designed using a comination of computational fluid dynamics (CFD) and wind tunnel fine tuning – the most cutting edge bikes. Stick the Plasma C2, Trek Equinox 9.9, and the Cervelo P3 and P4 together and you’ll see a lot of similarities. In fact we can’t help wondering if the differences are more to do with marketing than the demands of aerodynamics. Anyway, back to the Plasms C2. No doubt about it this is an impressive machine and Scott claim some impressive drag figures for it too 4.952N of drag (we’re presuming this is frontal drag, we have no figures for yaw), against 5.010 for Cervelo’s P3 – it will be interesting to see how it stacks up against the P4 and Cervelo are already hard at it on the P5…
New Scott Plasma C2 aims for TT top-spot
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@mdavidford thanks for the tip on replying to the thread! It would seem odd for his brother (thank you for the correction) to mention that he wasn't able "to brake in time" because he was in the TT position if he otherwise would have been able to apply the brakes. Perhaps it wouldn't have avoided the crash entirely, but it seems likely that it would have at least lessened the impact. It therefore seems entirely reasonable to conclude from this that TT bikes are more dangerous. That takes no blame away from the driver, as a rider should not be forced to brake to avoid a collision caused by a driver turning into their path.
@the little onion I'd agree that would be a sensible way to go. I don't think it's currently feasible for Sustrans / NCN, though, because they don't have the necessary powers to make it happen. It needs a local authority, who can drive the planning, land acquisition, etc. And actually there are much larger sums earmarked for local and regional authorities to improve provision. (Whether they actually end up using that effectively is, of course, another question.)
@Steve K My sister taught a kid who came up through Crystal Palace youth system then left for another club at 16. Jordan classily traduced him and his family in some friendly newspaper.
@Terry Hutt Thing is, I've yet to come across a silent ebike, so all you have to do to check legality is ride it, keep an eye on your own speedo and listen to hear if the motor's still running when you get over 15 mph.
@Rendel Harris This would probably be better than their current "tests" if the e-bike has a cadence sensor and a non-GPS speed display. If it has a power sensor (proportional assistance) or no speed display you're back to square one. Mind you, if the bike is doing 30mph on the flat and the rider isn't pedaling furiously, I say crush it with the rider still attached.
@the little onion AFAICS the notional cycling network is best seen as a "national sign network". An impressive mapping effort to catalog what infra there is and *suggest* places for cycling. But no guarantee it will be suitable for all cyclists. Or even any specific cycling purpose. Unless possibly you're into a kind of "adventure racing". It certainly bears little resemblance to the numbered junction network ("knooppunt") in NL. *That* is a genuine "help you navigate" system - but that goes everywhere, on at least "good enough" infra.
@the little onion Yes. One of the many great features of cycling-as-transport is that you can start local. Then concentration (of money, then infra and cyclists) is effective. That's how eg. Seville did it. And (I think) Paris. And much of how NL has got there I suspect. OTOH there are some potential blockers at bigger scales. Perhaps a Reform regional mayor decides they *will* implement the national policies - win the war *for* the motorist? Or good infra or transport reorganisation gets tangled up in national legal regulation. Or the money is suddenly shut off (or redirected to fill half-a-mile of potholes for motorists for a year).
@mdavidford I get your argument, but why spread it thinly on stuff that plainly doesn't work, rather than concentrating it on good stuff which does, in the right place? If given the choice of a national network of rubbish, or small localised patches of well-maintained excellence that does a great job within individual towns and cities, I'd go for the latter every time.
Like a lot of CPFC fans, I take anything Simon Jordan says with a pinch of salt. Jordan took over an ailing football club, got it into the premiership and then his ego got even bigger, followed by him running the club downhill fast. He's not remembered fondly by many down at Selhurst Park. He might actually know his wines as he did own a restaurant for a while. But he can stick his views on cycling up his behind.
@didsthewinegeek He can explain it to you but he can't understand it for you.
