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Today’s crazy Vuelta stage the fastest 200km+ bike race in history (+ highlights); US firm in a “Spin” over its claim to have trademarked the word; Doping – a Viz reader writes; Watchdog bans Deliveroo bike delivery + more on the live blog
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Wed, Sep 11, 2019 18:50
11 September 2019, 18:50
Essential advice as ever from the Viz letters page
11 September 2019, 18:50
At 219.6km, today’s Stage 17 of the Vuelta was the longest of this year’s race – and at an average speed of 50.63kph is thought to have been ridden at a faster pace than any 200km-plus road stage or one-day race in the history of professional cycling.
It’s also the fastest stage in the Vuelta during the past 15 years, eclipsed only by Stage 9 of the 2001 Vuelta as shown in this list provided by Procycling Stats in their excellent livefeed of today’s stage.
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/vuelta-a-espana/2019/stage-17/today/situation
As you’ll see from the list, stages ridden when EPO use was at its peak in the peloton dominate; there’s only one other stage from the past decade, from Andorra La Vella to Lleida in 2010, when there was a drop of 830 metres in altitude. Certainly, it’s well documented that the average speed of Grand Tours has dropped noticeably since the early 2000s.
A number of factors combined to make today’s stage so quick. As in that 2001 stage, there was a split in the peloton due to crosswinds and today that was followed by a tailwind.
With seven riders in the 45-strong front group, Deceuninck-Quick Step rode hard – and saw Philippe Gilbert take the win in Guadalajara and James Knox jump from 11th to 8th overall. Other teams in the front group had numbers too and an interest in distancing the other GC contenders – not least Movistar, whose quartet of riders included Nairo Quintana who leaps from sixth to second overall.
What we can say with certainty is that today’s stage was quicker than the fastest road stage ever at the Tour de France, which also came around the turn of the millennium, when Mario Cipollini won a 194.5km stage from Laval to Blois at an average speed of 50.4kph.
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Jack is group editor across road.cc, off.road.cc and ebiketips, overseeing all three sites in the F-At Digital group to make sure everything’s up to scratch. He’s been writing about cycling and multisport for over a decade, arriving at road.cc via 220 Triathlon Magazine in 2017. He worked across all areas of road.cc including tech, news and video, and also contributed to ebiketips before being named editor of road.cc in 2021 (much to his surprise). Jack has been hooked on cycling since his student days, and currently has a Trek 1.2 for winter riding, a beloved Bickerton folding bike for getting around town, and an extra beloved custom Ridley Helium SLX for fantasising about going fast in his stable. Jack has never won a bike race, but does have a master’s degree in print journalism, and two Guinness World Records for pogo sticking (it’s a long story).
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Destroyer666 5 minutes ago
@GravelIsNothingNew What a load of bullshit.
60somethingcyclist 35 minutes ago
Will he act against the Samar group in Williamsburg which uses it's political clout to get cycle lanes removed - even though they voted for him?
ktache 2 hours ago
I did have an internal clog on one of my Fillmore valves (with oil slick upgrade) a little while back, a quick search and watch of a YouTube video and I was set for taking them apart. Apart from the effort required to overcome corrosive seizing between the thumb nut and the thread of the shaft, hopefully mildly future proofed with the addition of a dab of grease, the valve service was very easy. Well designed for this I did think. Needed a small spanner and hex key. Only issue would seem to be with a little pin that could easily go missing. The peaty's apparently have a circlip, if there is anything designed to ping off around the work area it's a circlip. Or the shockingly expensive security magnet of a hexlox. I had a go on the display stand of the scwlabe click valve at the LBS last week. A simple joy to use. I forget how much I have to adapt to the quibbles that my bike pumps have, I'm used to them, I have lent my lezyne HV mini floor to people at work and they have had great difficulties. I will miss the rustic plank with 3 valve types screwed in on the LBS counter though. I will of course resist upgrading to the new standard for far too long, before eventually doing it to all wheels and pumps and wondering why I hadn't done it years ago...
belugabob 3 hours ago
@hawkinspeter the laws are there - and have been for some time - it's the enforcement that is tardy.
Mr Blackbird 3 hours ago
Excellent structured argument. Well done. Are you Kemi Badenoch's speech writer by any chance?
lees69 4 hours ago
@Mr Blackbird What a load of absolute twatwaffle...
rookybiker 6 hours ago
To be fair the principle is sound, the problem is in the execution. This specific attempt is especially ludicrous, but a century of efforts ranging from Oscar Egg's Velofusée to modern streamlined recumbents has not managed to produce a setup matching the practicality of the standard bicycle. If only the R.A.F. designers had waited until this year's Womens' TdF they would know to fill in the front rather than the back. Limited gains, but more attainable.
Amadeus99 6 hours ago
Another bunch or corporate dickheads who are cycling enthusiasts first and business people second, who are now all amazed after being overpaid and underworked for making stupid overbuying decisions, that they dont have a job. Being paid to spend other peoples money and duplicating so many jobs , well what could possibly go wrong. Over valued by up to 10 times its real value, who on earth is going to buy a brand that is in a market flooded by bikes that all look the same with different labels on them. These morons were paying 110 000 euros a week a few years ago to warehouse all the bikes they over ordered and couldnt pay for after the covid boom. The industry needs pricks like this like it needs a hole in the head. There are companies failing everyday right now in the bike business and its what is called evoloution of dick heads in the bike business. Let this continue until only the strong survive and dont be surprised when you see some of the top 10 brands in the world vanishing up their own arse.
Terry Hutt 6 hours ago
@Blackthorne83 More fun than on group rides. Can you imagine how annoying it would be to listen to this drivel on a cafe ride?
rookybiker 6 hours ago
Oh, to be the dangling nether parts of a giant red swollen baseball-cap-wearing sky hamster!
16 thoughts on “Today’s crazy Vuelta stage the fastest 200km+ bike race in history (+ highlights); US firm in a “Spin” over its claim to have trademarked the word; Doping – a Viz reader writes; Watchdog bans Deliveroo bike delivery + more on the live blog”
I wonder if the cyclist being
I wonder if the cyclist being deliberately run over with life changing injuries will generate the same level of outrage as the cyclist head butting the pedestrian?
burtthebike wrote:
It definitely won’t. And it’ll be more to do with gang warfare than hatred for cyclists.
Obligatory call for cars to be fitted with number plates to allow them to be traced when they leave the scene of an acc… oh wait! Not that having number plates is a requirement for car drivers anymore. I often see cars driving around London without plates fitted.
srchar wrote:
My first thought, too.
Hey – maybe we’re looking at ‘headbutting cyclist’ incident all wrong… Maybe there was a previous conflict at a bridge club or something, rather than their being total strangers
brooksby wrote:
My thought too. There was clearly a close passing of the cyclist & pedestrian. Did the cyclist have right of way? Did the pedestrian say something highly offensive to the cyclist? I have no idea but there is more to this than the video shows.
burtthebike wrote:
Tricky one, it might because it was a 17 year-old, but then maybe not because it was only a cyclist… or maybe it will because perpertrator was a yoof… or maybe not because he was in a car… or maybe it will because he fled the scene.
Or the 4×4/little shit story
Or the 4×4/little shit story from yesterday.
So an American corporation
So an American corporation “owns” the rights to an English word? What’s next, no more spin cycle for washing machines?
Philh68 wrote:
the whole , spinning, is only ‘spinning’ if you are ‘spinning’ with a trainer, trained in ‘spinning’ who’s paying the American corporation, for the privellege of calling his ‘spin class’ a ‘spin class’ thing, has been going on for many years. It’s nuts, but that seems to be the way of the world now. Soon, you won’t be able to go for a ‘shit’ without someone claiming a copyright infringement, if this carries on.
Judge dreadful wrote:
they could market a toilet under the brand name Pooloton which bland beautiful people could sit on in their vast apartments in front of the landscape windows, laying some massive cable without even their t-shirt getting sweaty.
Philh68 wrote:
No, in broad terms an American corporation has the right to use an English word to sell goods or services in specified classes in a particular geography for a limited period of time. I assume their registration doesn’t cover washing machines. What I don’t understand is why the owner of the “spinning” trademark is taking action for use of the word “spin”, which they don’t appear to have a registration for. Maybe this will turn out like the Roubaix debacle, where Specialized got heavy handed over a cafe using the name until Fuji bikes pointed out that actually Specialized didn’t own that, they did.
I’m not sure what I think
I’m not sure what I think about the Deliveroo judgement.
I never actually believed that a kid on a MTB could deliver to a fleeing bank robber or to the ISS – I’d assumed it’s what used to be called “artistic licence” – so I wouldn’t have taken on face value that they could deliver “anywhere”…
I mean – Domino’s don’t deliver to my village even though there’s a branch in the next town 4 miles away, so I wouldn’t imagine Deliveroo would either.
brooksby wrote:
Dont assume anything with advertising… Red Bull lost a case based on someone who said that he was not given wings as promised.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/29550003/so-red-bull-doesnt-actually-give-you-wings.
Oh, and the rolling bib shorts into the jersey video… genius!
PRSboy wrote:
+1 on that!
CygnusX1 wrote:
That’s the way I’ve been doing my t-shirts when I go on holiday for the last few years, takes up less space than folding and gives a nice tight bundle. I bought a couple of t-shirts when I was away recently and folded them like this on the shop counter.
Redvee wrote:
I’ve recently started using fold and roll for most of my tshirts etc that go away into a drawer, avoids getting creases that get compressed by the weight of others above, and it’s much easier to find the one you want when they’re layed out visibly rather than in a stack. Keeping the bib shorts inside the jersey is a minor stroke of genius though.
I’d be most happy if they
I’d be most happy if they change their name to “America corporate fitness giants are a bunch of c*nts”