The company behind a £2,000 in-home exercise bike that enables the likes of David Beckham to take part in virtual spinning classes has told an Australian cyclist and YouTube user to stop using its name – Peloton – in the titles of his videos.
News of the letter Shane Miller received from its lawyers was greeted with a mixture of anger and derision in cycling circles, and the company has now backed down.
Founded in New York City in 2012, Peloton’s celebrity clientele includes chat show host Ellen DeGeneres and the film star Hugh Jackman.
Since its UK launch earlier this year, Peloton has grown to seven locations in London, including Covent Garden, Canary Wharf, Marylebone and King’s Road.
Its bikes, which come complete with a 22-inch HD screen, enable people to take part in its classes wherever they are, immersing them in a studio class set-up without having to leave their home.
Mr Miller, meanwhile, is a keen cyclist from Sydney – today he’s embarking on the Rapha Festive 500 – whose YouTube channel has a strong focus on indoor trainers and virtual cycling, with a number of films relating to Zwift.
But it was a segment, now in its 10th episode, called Digital Peloton News, that attracted the attention of Peloton’s lawyers, with Mr Millar tweeting a copy of a two-page letter he had received from them.
So…. @OnePeloton have set their lawyers onto me in regard to my “Digital Peloton News” segment on YouTube….. They own the term peloton? As in a group of cyclists? pic.twitter.com/ZldQcBUYqv
— Shane Miller (@gplama) December 21, 2018
After outlining the company’s origins and its use of the trademark, the letter continued:
It has come to Peloton’s attention that you have begun a web series on You Tube under the title “Digital Peloton News,” a program that focuses on news relating to fitness equipment and fitness technology, including bicycle fitness equipment. Given that the most prominent and distinctive term in the series title is “Peloton” and given that the series relates to goods very closely related to those sold by our client, Peloton is concerned that consumers will mistakenly believe your web series is affiliated or associated with Peloton.
The firm asked Mr Miller confirm within ten days that he had ceased using the title Digital Pelotoin News in the YouTube segment, “or any other title that incorporates our client’s Peloton mark, in connection with your web series.”
The replies on Twitter to his post included support and sympathy for his situation, anger addressed at Peloton, and no small amount of jokes aimed at the brand, with the situation reminiscent of one in 2013 when US bike brand Specialized backed down after trying to force the owner of a business in Canada called Café Roubaix to change its name.
As in this case, Specialized had tried to claim the trademarking of a word that has been in use in cycling for more than a century – in this case, Roubaix.
Happily, Peloton’s lawyers accepted Mr Miller’s explanation that he wasn’t looking to infringe their clients’ intellectual copyright but rather was using the word peloton in its general sense. They wrote:
We have reviewed your response with our client. Our concern was with you developing and claiming trademark rights in Peloton in connection with fitness equipment. Thank you for confirming that you are using the term ‘peloton’ descriptively, not as a trademark, and that you are not aware of any consumers being confused by your use.
Given these representations, and as long as the circumstances do not change, our client considers the matter to be resolved.
The word itself is of directly taken from French – where, long before it was used to describe a group of racing cyclists, originally meant a squad (of soldiers, for example).
Mr Miller did briefly consider renaming his YouTube schedule – with a seasonal twist.
Forced rebranding sorted. Can’t beat ’em? Eat ’em. #HappyHolidays pic.twitter.com/oiQ37UwnIF
— Shane Miller (@gplama) December 23, 2018




















38 thoughts on “Indoor cycling brand Peloton threatens YouTuber with legal action … for using the word ‘peloton’”
Late capitalism at its finest
Late capitalism at its finest. Charging £2000 to moronic rich people for something they could get by sticking an iPad in front of a turbo trainer and playing this Simpsons clip on loop, then using the money generated to threaten people for using a common term, and only backing down to avoid the bad publicity. Vile in every aspect.
I love lawyers.
I love lawyers.
As much as I don’t agree with
As much as I don’t agree with intellectual property, it is required to defend a trademark otherwise it can be deemed invalid. (It’s more the extended copyright terms that I don’t agree with)
I can’t say that I care much about a company charging a lot for what they’re selling. If it’s not good value, then don’t buy it.
How much are Peloton paying
How much are Peloton paying for this free advertising?
don simon fbpe wrote:
Why would they pay for free advertising?
HawkinsPeter wrote:
Exactly.
don simon fbpe wrote:
And if they paid, then it’s not free!
don simon fbpe wrote:
Their lawyers must have charged them something for doing this, so it’s not really ‘free’. It’s not necessarily very good ‘advertising’ either.
If this was a cost-effective way to advertise, surely nobody would bother with TV or print adverts, they’d just get their lawyers to constantly threaten people with unfair legal action, and so get mentioned in the media.
FluffyKittenofTindalos wrote:
If it’s in-house lawyers than it’s absorbed by baseline operating costs. Effectivly no additional cost, which is as close to free as you can get when a company does something.
Given how ubiquitous the term Peleton is in cycling it’s hard to imagine that a qualified lawyer actially thinks this claim has legs. They have just got a popular You-Tuber with a decent twitter presence to talk about their product. Then back down “graciously”.
I’ve seen some of this guys You-Tube stuff. I think it’s good, but he probably wouldn’t review something lke the Peleton product. Trainers that you attach a actual bike to, and Zwift or Sufferfest, seem to be more his thing.
As part of an overall media strategy, to get their name out, this may have been motivated by advertising as much as anything.
Though it could just be Hanlon’s Razor.
From the adverts you seem to
From the adverts you seem to be able to download an app to have some slightly posh blonde woman tell you to ‘push’ and ‘smash’ it. You also seem to need to live in an old factory conversion as well.
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
I didn’t think she sounded particularly posh. More mad as a box of frogs. Thankfully I don’t live in a factory conversion and so can avoid all this.
I hope the UCI sues them for
I hope the UCI sues them for the use of the word peloton.
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
Never mind the UCI, sounds like the French Foreign Legion might be having a word with them!
If these upstarts had an
If these upstarts had an issue with Miller’s use of ‘their’ word couldn’t they just email him, you know, person-to-person? If they played it right the could have even had a positive mention on his channel.
But no, that’s not their way. They were out to CRUSH HIM. And they assumed that they have lawyers and he doesn’t.
Arseholes.
Peloton peloton, digital peloton. I might write an app for that.
Peloton peloton PELOTON PELOTON digital peloton PELOTON. Or a song.
In the new year I might set up a fitness business simply called…
PELOTON
I think your all missing the
I think your all missing the point here ….. How much was the blogger paid by Peloton to “react” to the “lawyers” thus generating all this press ……….
landsurfer74 wrote:
There’s no point missed. The only communication I’ve had with Pelton Interactive Inc was via their lawyers, as posted online.
GPLama wrote:
Welcome, Shane & merry Christmas.
Reading the letter you received, the writer was keen to emphasise their client’s brand IN CAPITALS. Wonder how many almost identical letters were issued by the associate?
This trademark shit confuses
This trademark shit confuses the fuck out of me.
https://trademark-search.marcaria.com/en/Result?trademark=peloton&country=GB&status=1&mode=1
Hmm, if I were a lawyer for
Hmm, if I were a lawyer for Pinterest I might be thinking about sending out a letter about that logo.
Just wait until Wheels Mfg
Just wait until Wheels Mfg starts sending out cease-and-desist notices.
I’ve looked through their
I’ve looked through their shop window a few times in Spitalfields, though can’t imagine buying any of their zero-heritage, over-priced stuff.
They’ve benefitted from a bit of free advertising here (which I am sure was their intention). Let’s make sure it backfires by boycotting this arrogant – and idiotic company – that thinks its can procure and patent cycling terminology. They’ll be bust soon. And cycling will not miss them.
I’ve also walked past their
I’ve also walked past their Spitalfields shop and been a bit baffled at their target market. I suspect it’s not cyclists who would know the word peloton but gym monkeys who would never cycle outside anyway.
I am now considering
I am now considering trademarking the entire english language so watch out.merry christmas.
john1967 wrote:
Touché
First person to trademark
First person to trademark cockwomble is the winner.
Incidentally, Specialized
Incidentally, Specialized deserves to be mentioned whenever a ludicrous trademark bullying incident comes up, but they were by no means the first, even in the cycling world. Who was? Why, the source of many of the world’s shittiest trends, Donald Trump of course! His short-lived late-80s cycle race, the [i]Tour de Trump[/i], a tax dodge with possible connections to Russia, was predated by a local, exercise-promoting cycling event in Colorado called the [i]Tour de Rump[/i]. But that didn’t stop the man who would later become known as the Cheeto Jesus from getting one of his many, many lawyers to send the latter’s organizers a cease and desist letter demanding they change their event’s name, within 24 hours no less.
handlebarcam wrote:
Nice.
….perhaps the Academie
….perhaps the Academie francaise should hear about this…they may even counter-sue. That is going to be my job for the evening….write to the Af; advise them of the situation, and get them to put ‘Peloton’ on its derriere.
There’s a print and digital
There’s a print and digital magazine called Peloton which has been around a few years longer than the exercise club. I wonder who will sue whom.
https://pelotonmagazine.com/
ConcordeCX wrote:
Trademarks only cover the specific classes of products/services that they are registered for, so I doubt Peloton magazine has registered a trademark for selling exercise equipment (if they had, then they could challenge the newer trademark).
There can be overlap, like the famous case of Apple (computer manufacturer) branching out into selling music which wasn’t welcomed by Apple the record label: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer
How can anybody believe this
How can anybody believe this is good free advertising and some form of play by Peloton, bullying does not in deer you to the brand, in fact it does the complete opposite.
bigbiker101 wrote:
Who says it’s good?
don simon fbpe wrote:
If its Bad why do it ?
bigbiker101 wrote:
The lawyers say it’s good, thanks for answering the question.
don simon fbpe wrote:
Lawyers get paid no matter… unlike advertises
“As much as I don’t agree
“As much as I don’t agree with intellectual property, it is required to defend a trademark otherwise it can be deemed invalid. (It’s more the extended copyright terms that I don’t agree with)”
Because nothing says “intellectual property” like stealing a word from another language, in common use within a sport and patenting it…
I love cycling and walk past
I love cycling and walk past their Spitalfields “shop” at least twice a week. I’ve never popped in and, given that the two bored-looking assistants usually outnumber customers in the ratio of 2:0, I predict that Shane Miller’s YouTube channel will outlive Nathan Barley’s favourite local (exercise) bike shop.
Peloton’s real name is One
Peloton’s real name is One Peloton, they don’t even hold the @peloton Twitter account, for the latter cyclist Stuart in Essex does. I guess they aren’t having much luck stealing the phrase from the cycling world.