Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.
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I had a wheelsucker last night as I commuted home along Green Lanes. I sat up; so did he. We were doing 15km/h at one point, so I tried to drop him. Nope, still on my wheel at 35km/h approaching traffic. I pulled into a side road so that he'd have to ride past, then continued my journey. Soon caught up with him and overtook, at which point he jumped on my wheel again. Just... why?!
So that they can get a pb without the effort? So that they can kid themselves they are as fit as you? Because they are cretins?
Was on a solo blast a couple of weeks ago and had a guy pull out from a side road and sit on my wheel - not commuting, both weekend warriors.
I just assumed i was better than i was and that i'd drop him, 2 miles later he's still there, another mile and I'm struggling a little, he's still there. At the next junction i took an incorrect left and he took a right to a local climb (pretty long and steep), so i had to turn around and lost about a minute.
Considering the energy he'd saved he wasn't progressing much so i picked a moment and had to pass him pretty damn quickly to stop him holding the wheel again. If nothing else it motivated me to a PR up that climb
Pretty weak excuse; "Sorry, I could barely keep up let alone pass you" would be more flattering.
Just make sure your diet includes good quantities of beans and cabbage. The inevitable result of that lot will put off wheelsuckers for a good while.
Appreciate that commuting and out for a ride ( I no longer train) are different but I occasionally get wheel suckers, you know the type, you catch and pass them before they decide to blow their arses and stay on your wheel. They don't bother me for the above snot rocket comment and I hope that they explain to everyone that their unusually quick Strava segment was assisted.
I don't really mind those that sit on you wheel and jump out in the last 150m like a true sprinter. But there's a couple of points here that I'd like to make:
1: I wasn't racing (so who have you beaten?).
2: I was riding for myself and am happy to give max effort. How was your "training" session while chilling out at 70% effort?
3: If you want to make something of it, and can, pop round for a chat or do some work at the front (I'm only a twat on here).
4: Do give a quick shout to let me know that you're there (I generally know and will still send the snot until until you announce your presence). Don't be surprised if I stop to admire the scenery either.
Wheel sucking - does it matter? It's not affecting me if you suck my wheel but you would need to put up with my occasional snot rockets.
it will affect you if they ride into the back of you because they arent paying attention properly as you do something they didnt expect, even pro riders manage to muck it up sometimes, Id rate most riders at a skill level way below that.
at the very least the wheel sucker needs to announce they are there not just ghost upto you.
but its also maybe not something that you consider that often but certainly I had an experience last year on a commute home in the dark with someone who began wheelsucking/overlapping wheels on me, who I wasnt sure what their ulterior motive or intention was, it didnt feel like they were merely saving energy for sure.
Do you carry a D-lock?
It really doesn't matter to me. If it annoys you just ride slower and suck his wheel.
If I am having fun and he is having fun, who really cares.
As far as I know there is even a slight aerodynamic advantage for the leader as the wheelsucker avoids the turbulences behind a single rider.
How would you feel about being tailgated by a motorvehicle, either as a driver or as a cyclist?
I don't want somebody I don't know up my trumpet, I don't know how they perceive safe cycling, I don't know their reactions, their attention span, I also don't know how their road skills are and how their braking is.
Unless in an organised group I just wouldn't consider it, if I'm invited or feel that the amount of road space/my speed means it would be natural for me to be just behind then I'd do it but not right up behind. I'd call out to let them know I'm behind, if they were other than okay, I'd just drop off a few more metres.
This.
A few years ago, I was cycling to work, minding my own business, when I became aware that someone was sitting on my wheel. Tried to drop them 3 times and each time I looked back to find they couldn't take a hint and they'd crept up again. When I slowed to force them to pass me, they'd once again crept up so close they had no room to brake and crashed into my back wheel and fell off. They then had the cheek to accuse me of not being an experienced group rider - I'm not in a group, I'm cycling to work, you pillock!
If I'm in an organised group or with friends, then fine. If I don't know you from Adam, then you don't know where I'm going, where I'm going to slow down, turn or whatever, so either make your presence known and ask if I mind or bugger off - and don't be offended if I say no.
I once had a ghost rider get really shirty with me when I asked him to get off my wheel!
I tend to ride quite upright on my old hybrid, and I've often (well, a few times) had other cyclists - even 'proper' roadies - sitting behind me using my somewhat overweight and upright form as a windbreak. Is that wheelsucking too?
Just stop pedalling for 30 seconds and see if they come past.
Not acceptable unless they keep a decent distance or have asked first. How do they know they can brake in time? Are they aware of all the hazards on a typical commute and alive to them? Or will they go headlong into the wheelsucked rider the first time they have to do some unexpected braking?
I don't mind a little wheel sucking. However, as above, not doing your turn is just rude!
My bike is not better than anyone's. But, that doesn't stop people sitting on my wheel. If they help out, fine. If not, I will get shirty - to the point of swinging right out, slowing and sitting right on their wheel (possibly with added glaring or sarcastic comment).
Actually though, as a fixie rider, the thing that really gets my goat is those on lightweight, geary (it's a word!) bikes sitting on my wheel. Then, when either I "let" them go (see above) or they decide to come past, they just whack it up a gear or two so I have no way of keeping their pace (max sustainable speed is 20-25 mph with my gearing). Thanks!
If you want to wheel suck, ask first. I get really annoyed when people try to do it on my commute. It's all well and good on a club run and fine on the track, but pretty stupid and dangerous on a busy road.
I came to a stop before and had a go at the person, but they still did to me a month later!