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Live blog: Victim offers to pay bike thief’s friends £5,000 if they get him prosecuted; “I don’t want to say I’m going for the win” says Adam Yates – but he is; The closest pass of all? + more
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the little onion 59 minutes ago
On the footballer being 'banned' after being caught on the phone - as I understand it, a straightforward phone offense is just 6 points* on the license, insufficient for a ban. In other words, the man has previous, so it can't be blamed solely on so-called 'vigilante' cyclists (i.e. upstanding members of the public). *cue football joke about the easiest 6 points that Swansea FC will get this season.
mdavidford 3 hours ago
I refer the Honourable Squirrel to the discussion of August 31st in Another Place.
mitsky 3 hours ago
@Smoggysteve Based on the clip being old, having been reported on previously with no apparent new information making it worth re-reporting now, and the "reporters" knowing what the resulting online commentary would be... Could they be sued/tried for incitement to violence?
bensynnock 3 hours ago
Highway code rule 182 specifically says to look out for vehicles coming up from behind when turning left. The van also did not indicate. The arrow on the road doesn't remove those requirements from the van driver, just because he has to turn left doesn't mean it isn't a left turn. Also rule 170 says: Take extra care at junctions. You should watch out for cyclists etc. Still, I would have expected the van driver to completely ignore the rules of the road and held back until after the junction.
chrisonabike 3 hours ago
Was it that famous cricketer, Washington Irving, who wrote about those dystopian conflicts on the world pitch, or the spinner of tales Irving Washington?
wtjs 4 hours ago
I ought to point out that mdavidford was well aware when he wrote 'Orson Welles'- he was referring to the other topic: ttps://road.cc/offroad/feature/the-revolution-and-evolution-of-xc-how-cross-country-racing-has-changed-in-the-uk-and-beyond#comments
leedorney 4 hours ago
The cyclist was wrong to carry on thru with that turn, he asked for that
chrisonabike 4 hours ago
@mattw indeed. But ... ... "levelling the playing field" actions are themselves surprisingly difficult to target to the desired demographic - without everyone else piling in. The "mainstream" of people just trying to find the easier / cheaper way is large. And humans have some very particular senses of "fair". If some of the barriers to use of something are removed (eg. stigma) the choice landscape may change for everyone. At which point those who have more needs may get elbowed out of the queue again by the majority. Or the shared resource may just be overused. An example from NL are the rules around microcars (eg. Cantas) which can use cycle paths and are free from some other rules for motor vehicles. These are apparently being exploited by others for whom this provision was not intended (as a "free / more available parking" wheeze). Of course that might still be an improvement on the status quo of them driving motor vehicles! But a big increase in microcars would impact cyclists and indeed wheelchair users of the paths though. Hence my comment about cars: as soon as any reduction in motoring convenience is mooted we already see "selective concern" for those with visual impairments / disabilities... ("but what about taxis for the blind / but old people will be trapped in their homes...")
18 thoughts on “Live blog: Victim offers to pay bike thief’s friends £5,000 if they get him prosecuted; “I don’t want to say I’m going for the win” says Adam Yates – but he is; The closest pass of all? + more”
Oh My Lord. God Bless America
Oh My Lord. God Bless America and pick-up trucks.
Christ! Nearly had his wing
Christ! Nearly had his wing mirror off there.
looked deliberate as well!
looked deliberate as well!
Within the marked lane? The
Within the marked lane? The nearside wheels are clearly on the white line, so the bodywork and mirrors are outside the lane. Very grateful that the cyclist wasn’t even struck, let alone injured, but it must have been a matter of millimetres, and for Brexiteers, that’s fractions of an inch.
burtthebike wrote:
I voted to leave a vile dictatorship that criminally funds other dicatorships, stick to talking about cycling instead of whining about something that will change the balance of Europe as a whole, not just the UK. For people who wished to remain, it’s miles not km!
Christ that was as close to
Christ, that was as close to being killed as you’d ever want to see.
WTF!?
WTF!?
“I’m not sure what you would like for us to do at this time as no crime was committed. This video doesn’t show any ill intent.”
How about attempted murder……?
The lack of movement by the
The lack of movement by the cyclist suggests to me that either the video is faked or the cyclist is completely unflappable.
hawkinspeter wrote:
The twitter link has the comment:
“The video is fake for 4 reasons:
1- No sound for the car passing
2- No car shade on the cyclist
3- Between the 3rd & 4th second, the left hand was oddly stretched
4- With this speed of a large car, at least there should be a side wind effect on the cyclist”
hirsute wrote:
The lack of movement by the cyclist suggests to me that either the video is faked or the cyclist is completely unflappable.
— hirsute The twitter link has the comment: “The video is fake for 4 reasons: 1- No sound for the car passing 2- No car shade on the cyclist 3- Between the 3rd & 4th second, the left hand was oddly stretched 4- With this speed of a large car, at least there should be a side wind effect on the cyclist”— hawkinspeter
Yeah, I saw that which gave me pause to think, but I didn’t bother to check his claims.
hirsute wrote:
The lack of movement by the cyclist suggests to me that either the video is faked or the cyclist is completely unflappable.
— hirsute The twitter link has the comment: “The video is fake for 4 reasons: 1- No sound for the car passing 2- No car shade on the cyclist 3- Between the 3rd & 4th second, the left hand was oddly stretched 4- With this speed of a large car, at least there should be a side wind effect on the cyclist”— hawkinspeter
If you look at the guys forearm when the vehicle comes past he clearly flinches/changes arm position, that movement whilst unseen by most is enough for me to say it’s legit.
As for the no law broken BS, go into the police station, swing a hammer near the officers head and then say, “all ok gov, no harm done eh!” If they can’t see that was deliberate/reckless endangerment then they are complete fucktards. I seem to recall that just like here and in Aus there are assault laws where no physical contact need be made for a crime to be commited. Typical of plod though no matter where you live.
For you lot thinking it’s
For you lot thinking it’s fake check out the source video here. It was captured on a 360 camera so you can pan around.
BlodadTand wrote:
That’s a much better link.
That is a very composed cyclist!
I downloaded it, but it’s a bit distorted when played as a straight video. Even so, this shot is terrifying:
hawkinspeter wrote:
It might have taken a bit of time for it to sink in, way too fast for any initial reaction. That’s one lucky bastard.
hawkinspeter wrote:
Someone has made this showing how close it actually was. Really terrifying. Serously no ill-intent?? Millimetres from death or, at the very least, life changing injuries.
https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/HandmadeGreatFowl
a1white wrote:
Thanks for that. So, Surrey school run standard then.
Since the other vehicles in the video seem to be giving the rider more than a whole lane out of courtesy, I would have said either ill-intent or, in the light of my last 2 experiences of similar – a) some old gimmer in a Jag fiddling with his dashboard controls, and b) a woman having some splendid craic with her passenger – no idea of what was happening on the road.
I see that that Thomas
I see that that Thomas Geraint chap has had to take to Twitter to ask folks to chill out. I gues the thick twats think he really is supporting Sweden. Easy mistake I suppose, it is, after all, written down AND on the internet and it wouldn’t require any thinking whatsoever to confuse a stupid.
Bloody hell, that better be
Bloody hell, that better be one hell of a Wiggins jersey for £185. What exactly do you get for £185 when it comes to jerseys?
I think the Wiggins ‘brand’ is tainted now, a lot more than hint of a stain that Froome currently has. I can’t see people buying it for any other reason than wearing something expensive to show they’re wearing something expensive.
Black and gold as well. Nothing says retro better than black and gold. Yawn. Stick some JPS stickers on it.