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Police probing triathlon cyclist's undertake of horse rider

Footage of incident at Windsor Triathlon yesterday has been viewed more than 3.8 million times on Facebook

The horse rider who filmed the moment she was hit by a competitor in yesterday’s Windsor Triathlon who undertook her at speed during the cycling leg of the event has said that police are investigating the incident.

The footage, shot by Facebook user Jennifer Katherine, has been viewed more than 3.8 million times on the social network since being posted yesterday morning.

In a follow-up post, she called for road users to show mutual respect towards each other, adding that the incident is “Under investigation with police” as well as with officials from Human Race, the organisers of the event.

The route of the cycling leg of the event lies entirely within Berkshire, meaning that Thames Valley Police would be the relevant force, and the horse rider was reportedly due to speak officers this afternoon.

Meanwhile yesterday evening, following publication of our original story on the incident, Human Race reiterated on social media that they are conducting a full investigation and that any riders identified through the video will be excluded from future events.

> Video: Horse and rider struck by undertaking cyclist participating in triathlon

They said: “We are in contact with the individual effected by the horrible incident earlier today at Windsor Triathlon. We want to sincerely apologise to her and her poor horse.

“We have convened a senior level committee internally, and along with British Triathlon we will be reviewing the video evidence to identify those involved in this.

“Those at fault will be disqualified and banned from all future Human Race events.

“There will be further ramifications for these people with British Triathlon and potentially further action taken,” they added.

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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fukawitribe replied to Housecathst | 5 years ago
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Housecathst wrote:

fukawitribe wrote:

Housecathst wrote:

Playing devils advocate the cyclist passing on the left are just filtering aren’t they ? As per the HW code.

Nope.

really ? Why ? Perhaps the speed aspect, but that’s subjective and the HW code does sent a speed limit. 

Disclamer, I wouldn’t ride like this in a million years, and the rider are dicks. 

Rules 163, 167 and 214 would be a start.

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Philip Whiteman replied to Housecathst | 5 years ago
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Housecathst wrote:

It’ll be interesting to see what the police are going to charge the cyclist with. Playing devils advocate the cyclist passing on the left are just filtering aren’t they ? As per the HW code.

Perhaps cps will go with the class W&F charge, which just about guarantee a conviction at the hands of a jury of motorists. Given that nobody was injured it’ll be interesting what prison sentence they’ll get, I would think 6 months at least as the bay mob will need to appeased. Also am I missing something or does the impact not happen on camera ? as every cyclist with a helmet cam knows that means it didn’t happen according to the police.

 

Road Traffic Act 1988 c52, part 1. covers most aspects in this instance. A plain English Guide can be found at https://www.cyclistsdefencefund.org.uk/cycling-offences where the penalty tariffs can also be found.

 

 

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boywoolner replied to Housecathst | 5 years ago
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Housecathst wrote:

It’ll be interesting to see what the police are going to charge the cyclist with. Playing devils advocate the cyclist passing on the left are just filtering aren’t they ? As per the HW code.

Perhaps cps will go with the class W&F charge, which just about guarantee a conviction at the hands of a jury of motorists. Given that nobody was injured it’ll be interesting what prison sentence they’ll get, I would think 6 months at least as the bay mob will need to appeased. Also am I missing something or does the impact not happen on camera ? as every cyclist with a helmet cam knows that means it didn’t happen according to the police.

 

When it comes to horses, the Highway Code states "Always pass wide and slowly." None of the cyclist were passing particularly wide or slow. They were in 'race mode', just like the pros who jump level crossings.

 

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Ian Allardyce | 5 years ago
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Rule No.42. A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.

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MarkiMark | 5 years ago
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Simple - triathlons are competitive by nature and should not be allowed on open roads. 

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fenix replied to MarkiMark | 5 years ago
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MarkiMark wrote:

Simple - triathlons are competitive by nature and should not be allowed on open roads. 

As are time trials. road races, some athletics events.  

 

But is it competitors causing deaths ? Oh no - thats cars going about their every day business. 

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Awavey | 5 years ago
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I hope people are just trolling for a reaction,as I just can't believe anyone can blame the horse rider for being there on a public open road and then getting hit by an undertaking rider who has enough time after they've passed to seemingly raise a middle finger in response,and then we wonder why cyclists get such a rough time & no sympathy from the public when we are on the receiving end of this kind of stuff.

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FatBoyW | 5 years ago
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Absolutely agree some of the route is open road. Just talking about common sense and riding with due care of your steed. She could have enquired when the race was going to go by, its wave starts so most will be past in a short period and then ridden when there were only a few riders on the tri and it would have still been quiet as people avoid the course due to the triathlon.

just saying use a bit of the old common and have some regard for your horse too.

that said she most certainly has a right to use the open road, I guess they were invented for her mode of transport

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don simon fbpe replied to FatBoyW | 5 years ago
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FatBoyW wrote:

Absolutely agree some of the route is open road. Just talking about common sense and riding with due care of your steed. She could have enquired when the race was going to go by, its wave starts so most will be past in a short period and then ridden when there were only a few riders on the tri and it would have still been quiet as people avoid the course due to the triathlon.

just saying use a bit of the old common and have some regard for your horse too.

that said she most certainly has a right to use the open road, I guess they were invented for her mode of transport

She was wearing hi-viz and I assume the camera wasn't bolted to her head, so a helmet too. I see no evidence of  a tail light though and that dappled sunlight probably made it difficult for the rider to see them. She could/should have done more to protect herself. I hope the rider isn't too traumatised after what could have been a life changing incedent.

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brooksby replied to don simon fbpe | 5 years ago
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don simon wrote:

... and that dappled sunlight probably made it difficult for the rider to see them. 

The dappled horse probably helped her blend in too...  yes

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Yorkshire wallet | 5 years ago
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Not closed-road so legally nobody is doing anything wrong by entering the 'course' (also known as a public road)

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boywoolner replied to Yorkshire wallet | 5 years ago
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Yorkshire wallet wrote:

Not closed-road so legally nobody is doing anything wrong by entering the 'course' (also known as a public road)

It makes you wonder why this triathlon wasn't a closed-road event - even a rolling closure, being a race. That said, there's no excuse for riding that close to a horse or passing one at those speeds. Typical alpha-male, dickheaded behaviour.

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FatBoyW | 5 years ago
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FatBoyW | 5 years ago
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28 years of one of the most prominent races in the world. Televised live by the BBC back in the day,but the horse rider had no idea. Whilst I might expect the horse to be unable to read I would expect the owner to show some care.

so whilst not condoning the riding, I can understand it in all the adrenaline of racing and the difficulty of changing course quickly on a TT bike etc etc.

this race has large signs all around the course and all it’s entry points so if this woman drove a car at any point around here the coppers might ask how she missed them.

no time for the horse rider who could easily have avoided this and probably entered the course at the precise time of the race just to get a reaction, idiocy of the highest degree and if I was the copper investigating she’d not like some of my questioning.

 

 

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don simon fbpe replied to FatBoyW | 5 years ago
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FatBoyW wrote:

28 years of one of the most prominent races in the world. Televised live by the BBC back in the day,but the horse rider had no idea. Whilst I might expect the horse to be unable to read I would expect the owner to show some care.

so whilst not condoning the riding, I can understand it in all the adrenaline of racing and the difficulty of changing course quickly on a TT bike etc etc.

this race has large signs all around the course and all it’s entry points so if this woman drove a car at any point around here the coppers might ask how she missed them.

no time for the horse rider who could easily have avoided this and probably entered the course at the precise time of the race just to get a reaction, idiocy of the highest degree and if I was the copper investigating she’d not like some of my questioning.

 

 

Agreed, she should've used a bridle path...

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Mark_1973_ | 5 years ago
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Not that I condone the cyclists' behaviour in any way but, based on my experience with the side of a van in London, just say that at no point did you see the horse or rider. Easy. No further action.

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David9694 | 5 years ago
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So I haven’t visited the Facebook page, but I wonder if anyone can advise how many posts there are on there of dangerous or unpleasant behaviour towards her by motor vehicle drivers?  I guess it doesn’t record the number of times she thinks “I might go for a hack this this afternoon, but maybe not” because of having to run the motorised gauntlet each time - but  that wouldn’t make very good viewing, would it?

I hope the triathlete riders involved will make/ have made themselves known - they may not be “proper cyclists”, but these tribal distinctions of ours are lost on the wider world.

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rct replied to David9694 | 5 years ago
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David9694 wrote:

So I haven’t visited the Facebook page, but I wonder if anyone can advise how many posts there are on there of dangerous or unpleasant behaviour towards her by motor vehicle drivers?  I guess it doesn’t record the number of times she thinks “I might go for a hack this this afternoon, but maybe not” because of having to run the motorised gauntlet each time - but  that wouldn’t make very good viewing, would it?

I hope the triathlete riders involved will make/ have made themselves known - they may not be “proper cyclists”, but these tribal distinctions of ours are lost on the wider world.

 

She has posts with videos of inconsiderate drivers as well, but strangley these haven't received the same publicity as the triathletes stupidity.

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David9694 replied to rct | 5 years ago
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rct wrote:

David9694 wrote:

So I haven’t visited the Facebook page, but I wonder if anyone can advise how many posts there are on there of dangerous or unpleasant behaviour towards her by motor vehicle drivers?  I guess it doesn’t record the number of times she thinks “I might go for a hack this this afternoon, but maybe not” because of having to run the motorised gauntlet each time - but  that wouldn’t make very good viewing, would it?

I hope the triathlete riders involved will make/ have made themselves known - they may not be “proper cyclists”, but these tribal distinctions of ours are lost on the wider world.

 

She has posts with videos of inconsiderate drivers as well, but strangley these haven't received the same publicity as the triathletes’ stupidity.

strange indeed: not wishing to rekindle the earlier minor/relatively minor argument, this incident doesn’t seem to have drawn blood or broken any bones and I think has relatively little potential to have done so, alarming though it was - the car incidents undoubtedly do have that dangerous potential, yet this is taken for granted.

i’m uncomfortable with the “there were signs /why did she have to go out at that time?” argument, as we’ll get that thrown back at us with compound interest. (Unless it’s all been done to make a point about this race, like the two Scottish farmers standing in the road a few months back.)

 

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cdamian | 5 years ago
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It might be the view angle, but even the cyclists overtaking on the correct side seem to be a bit close.

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Morgoth985 | 5 years ago
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-44512967

Amanda Coyne must have had a dreadful experience.  I wonder what kind of compulsion the four cyclists applied to the poor motorist to “force” him or her to overtake.  Gun to the head perhaps?

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FrankH replied to Morgoth985 | 5 years ago
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Morgoth985 wrote:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-44512967

Amanda Coyne must have had a dreadful experience.  I wonder what kind of compulsion the four cyclists applied to the poor motorist to “force” him or her to overtake.  Gun to the head perhaps?

I had the same thought when I read that article:

BBC wrote:

Amanda Coyne, who lives near the route of the race, said she had encountered cyclists riding "dangerously" while driving shortly before 09:00.

"I nearly had a heart attack as I nearly got hit by a car which had been forced to overtake cyclists who were riding four-abreast," she said.

"They were riding at such speeds and didn't care who was coming in front of them and who was behind them and I really worried there was going to be a terrible accident."

"They were riding at such speeds..." but obviously not fast enough for the car driver who was "forced to overtake".

Don't people actually think before openiong their mouths?

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willsdad | 5 years ago
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I agree they have no common sense riding like that in a well established event.

Road.cc need to up their game. The Daily Mail has you beaten hands down!

Cyclists should be in the velodrome and the horse in a field!! Because they "dont have an MOT"

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don simon fbpe | 5 years ago
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this should be good news for Thames Valley cyclists.

Plod are investigating.

This means that any close pass that results in contact with a cyclist as the victim must be investigated too. No excuses.

The outcome of this investigation will determine how cyclists are treated when caught up in equally horrible incedents.

I'm sure plod will be happy to explain the difference between this and cyclist being close passed and clipped by a motorised vehicle, especially why they think that this is worth spending precious resources on.

 

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Noelieboy replied to don simon fbpe | 5 years ago
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don simon wrote:

this should be good news for Thames Valley cyclists.

Plod are investigating.

This means that any close pass that results in contact with a cyclist as the victim must be investigated too. No excuses.

The outcome of this investigation will determine how cyclists are treated when caught up in equally horrible incedents.

I'm sure plod will be happy to explain the difference between this and cyclist being close passed and clipped by a motorised vehicle, especially why they think that this is worth spending precious resources on.

 

 

It's the undertaking they're concerned with surely?

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Housecathst replied to Noelieboy | 5 years ago
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Noelieboy wrote:

don simon wrote:

this should be good news for Thames Valley cyclists.

Plod are investigating.

This means that any close pass that results in contact with a cyclist as the victim must be investigated too. No excuses.

The outcome of this investigation will determine how cyclists are treated when caught up in equally horrible incedents.

I'm sure plod will be happy to explain the difference between this and cyclist being close passed and clipped by a motorised vehicle, especially why they think that this is worth spending precious resources on.

 

 

It's the undertaking they're concerned with surely?

Do you mean filtering in slow moving traffic? As per the HC 

I’m just throwing it out there, so to speak!

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Russell Orgazoid | 5 years ago
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The public image of cycling just took a big hit.

Well done you assholes in the clip.

 

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Yorkshire wallet replied to Russell Orgazoid | 5 years ago
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Plasterer's Radio wrote:

The public image of cycling just took a big hit.

Well done you assholes in the clip.

 

Triathletes not cyclists. It's like grouping poodles and whippets. I'd be shell shocked if someone asked me if was a triathlete. How embarrassing.

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ClubSmed replied to Yorkshire wallet | 5 years ago
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Yorkshire wallet wrote:
Plasterer's Radio wrote:

The public image of cycling just took a big hit.

Well done you assholes in the clip.

 

Triathletes not cyclists. It's like grouping poodles and whippets. I'd be shell shocked if someone asked me if was a triathlete. How embarrassing.

That's a very good point, I have never heard anyone group those collectively along with all other breads and refer to them as "dogs". It's clear from the comments on this site as whenever anyone complains about such an animal causing issues on their cycle they always refer to it by bread and never group them with the term "dog" or "dogs".....

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FrankH replied to ClubSmed | 5 years ago
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ClubSmed wrote:

Yorkshire wallet wrote:
Plasterer's Radio wrote:

The public image of cycling just took a big hit.

Well done you assholes in the clip.

 

Triathletes not cyclists. It's like grouping poodles and whippets. I'd be shell shocked if someone asked me if was a triathlete. How embarrassing.

That's a very good point, I have never heard anyone group those collectively along with all other breads and refer to them as "dogs". It's clear from the comments on this site as whenever anyone complains about such an animal causing issues on their cycle they always refer to it by bread and never group them with the term "dog" or "dogs".....

But no matter which way you slice it, that cyclist, sorry, triathlete, should have used his loaf.

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