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Central government weighs in to ban cycling on Eastbourne sea front

Local government wanted to allow shared use of the promenade - but Westminster disagrees

The movement behind reintroducing cycling along the promenade at Eastbourne has been dealt a blow with the government rejecting the local council’s plans.

The Department for Communities and Local Government (DCLG) has told Eastbourne Borough Council that it may not amend the by-law to permit cycling on the promenade between Fisherman’s Green and the Wish Tower.

DCLG has said that it should instead implement a full cycling and walking strategy in the area.

The DCLG added that there had been numerous complaints to the shared use scheme, an announcement welcomed by objectors.

A council spokesperson told the Eastbourne Herald, “While this is a setback for a great many cyclists in Eastbourne, the DCLG has given a very clear steer that the door remains open subject to further work being undertaken.

“To this end meetings with East Sussex County Council are already underway and we can assure everyone interested in a safe and sustainable cycling and walking network across Eastbourne, the council will do all it can to advance this process.”

An East Sussex County Council spokesman said, “We will continue to work with Eastbourne council and the local community on the development of improved walking and cycling facilities across the town.”

A local Conservative spokesperson said, “We asked the council to pause any lifting of the by-law before an integrated cycling and walking strategy was in place.

“We want more people cycling in the town however this must be part of an integrated transport system rather than using a sticking plaster approach that doesn’t take into account the views of pedestrians and vulnerable people.”

Conservative MP Caroline Ansell said, “I’m not surprised at this decision as there was no clear plan and local consensus.”

Back in 2015 we reported how a public consultation gave hope to cyclists who wanted to use the promenade

Eastbourne’s Lib Dems suggested lifting the ban, and a 28 day public consultation began, before the final decision on creating a shared use path went to East Sussex County Council.

The opposition Conservative group on the council however, fiercely opposed any lifting of the bylaw.

Now, it seems central government has weighed in, and not in favour of the cyclists.

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Al__S | 7 years ago
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The "correct sign" is only legally required if banning cycles from a right of way they would usually have, under a TRO. Is the promenade a highway, byway or bridleway?

 

Obviously even without the diagonal the sign pictured would not be compliant with the TSRGD.

 

If we're being all legal about this, probably worth reffering to the actual bylaw- which it should be noted is not a TRO

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CygnusX1 | 7 years ago
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Here's a new sign on me from the Gov.uk highway code pages - no cars witha bonfire on the roof (no vehicles carrying explosives) - anyone seen one of these in the wild?:

 

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CygnusX1 | 7 years ago
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Is the signage in the photo at the top of the story the actual signs in use?

The correct signage for 'no bicycles' is a bike in a red circle (no diagonal) -- you may want to take independent legal advice, but doesn't that mean the restriction is unenforceable?

Correct 'no cycling' sign:

 

 

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ktache replied to CygnusX1 | 7 years ago
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CygnusX1 wrote:

Is the signage in the photo at the top of the story the actual signs in use?

The correct signage for 'no bicycles' is a bike in a red circle (no diagonal) -- you may want to take independent legal advice, but doesn't that mean the restriction is unenforceable?

Correct 'no cycling' sign:

 

 

Good point.  So isn't that therefore a no no cycling sign.  Mandatory cycling on the seafront anyone.  

But it is now October, and if the Southern Rail disaster is ever sorted out I intend to take my bike to my mother's in Bexhill and ride to Brighton, using NCN2, 21, through Eastbourne then the South Downs Way.

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hawkinspeter replied to ktache | 7 years ago
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ktache wrote:

CygnusX1 wrote:

Is the signage in the photo at the top of the story the actual signs in use?

The correct signage for 'no bicycles' is a bike in a red circle (no diagonal) -- you may want to take independent legal advice, but doesn't that mean the restriction is unenforceable?

Correct 'no cycling' sign:

Good point.  So isn't that therefore a no no cycling sign.  Mandatory cycling on the seafront anyone.  

But it is now October, and if the Southern Rail disaster is ever sorted out I intend to take my bike to my mother's in Bexhill and ride to Brighton, using NCN2, 21, through Eastbourne then the South Downs Way.

If they have a "no cycling" sign with a red line across it, surely that would signal the end of the "no cycling" zone?

It'd be interesting for anyone caught using those areas to plead ignorance due to the confusing signs.

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Wolfshade replied to CygnusX1 | 7 years ago
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CygnusX1 wrote:

Is the signage in the photo at the top of the story the actual signs in use?

The correct signage for 'no bicycles' is a bike in a red circle (no diagonal) -- you may want to take independent legal advice, but doesn't that mean the restriction is unenforceable?

Correct 'no cycling' sign:

 

 

I recall a discussion about such confusing signage (it might even have been a seminiar) and this issue was specifically mentioned, a prohibition sign (all round circles with red outlines) [though "interestingly" signs prohibiting turns are striked through counter to all others] that the strike through might actually be inidicative of a double prohibition i.e. non-cycling is prohibited, that is you must cycle.

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ChrisB200SX | 7 years ago
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This particular situation would be better without rules. There is a long shared use path on the seafront to Sovereign Harbour with a great big white line down the middle, peds one side bikes the other. Where do all the dog walkers, skaters and walkers go... In the bike lane. Very few people take notice of these rules and fewer enforce them, it's pointless nonsense.

Where this ban is, I've never seen a problem with bikes. It's obviously the imaginary phantom hoodlums on bikes that spoil it for everyone.

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tigerted | 7 years ago
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What an idiotic decision.I live in Eastbourne and frequently cycle along the front that is the part you are allowed to cycle along and if I do want to go along the part your not allowed to cycle I walk my bike mainly as it suits me to enjoy looking out to sea.

But for those that do want to cycle particularly at this time of year why can't they. There is enough room for both pedestrians and cyclists and in my opinion the only time there should be a ban is during the Summer season. When it is probably too crowded.

Are we really saying that young children are not even allowed to cycle whereas skaters Roller Bladers , Runners and elderly people in motorised scooters can use the promenade.Ridiculous.

It seems to me that we need the tactics London cyclists use in having mass demonstrations to oppose this decision.

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Stumps | 7 years ago
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A sensible approach at last from the Conservatives. Get proper infrastructure in place rather than cause conflict between pedestrians and cyclists whilst drivers get away scot free.

I imagine the prom in question will be chocka over the summer so any cycling would be of a minimum in any case.

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brooksby | 7 years ago
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I thought we were supposed to be *decentralising* planning decisions?

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robert posts child | 7 years ago
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The idea that cyclists and vulnerable people are mutually exclusive needs to go. Increasingly people unable to walk or walk far,are using bikes. Are they supposed to wear a special sign exempting them, or just stay home?

i think the gov is right ,in that there needs to be a broad inclusove plan, but pretending people are only one category at a time does not enable that...the sooner it happens, the sooner the percieved risk from Cycling will go, at the moment the age range is artificially narrow. Thus older and otherwise vulnerable peds feel at riskfrom'speeding young people' whether the rider is or not...

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LegalFun | 7 years ago
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I dont really see the problem in the summer.

You can cycle on the road, and if you want to go for a slow trip along the promenade with all the summer tourists, you can lock your bike up and walk!

In the winter, it wont be so busy, and seeing how wide it is, there should be no problem. It's much the same with bans on dogs from beaches, or with bans on 4x4's from byways.

 

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