Bog snorkelling? You ain’t seen nothing.

I guess you can take the boy out of Australia..

Motornormativity, does a lot of heavy lifting. Windshield bias sounds less staccato to me. Anyway, I asked google how to reduce human bias and its conclusions seem bad for cyclists mixing with drivers. One solution states removing bias in a human being requires a pause before a decision is made. Imagine Dave or Claire or Mohammed or Misra on the school run, internet delivery or rush to work morning...a cyclist appears...a corner is up ahead..."I'll just squeeze...."the driver remembers they are meant to pause, they glance at the speedo....tighter, tighter...."Ooo, got through the gap before the corner, great". Conclusion, pausing while entering into a corner with a cyclist cannot be a structural element of windshield bias. The driver may have to consider pausing earlier, or pausing a while afore they enter their vehicle. Maybe I am way off...I'll ask google if they know per capita how hard it is for humans to pause whilst approaching a corner in a motorised vehicle.

Hmm - we may know that we aren't breaking the law, but a number of cases documented round these parts show that that's no bar to certain members of the Police dreaming up reasons to take action against us.

@markvr You're being disingenuous or you're simply ignorant. First of all: answer the question you were asked instead of dodging it - do you propose we ban fat people from riding ebikes? What about gym bros? Tall men? Half the adult male cyclists I know weigh 100+ kilos. Next, let's point out all the misconceptions and/or lies you're peddling(aha): 1. My "heavy" cargo bike is only 30% heavier than my normal ebike, unloaded. 2. Cargo bikes have much more robust braking systems than are typical on urban/utility bicycles exactly because they carry extra weight, so stopping distance is not the issue you pretend it is. 3. Bike paths are for bikes, and cargo bikes are bikes. Get over it. 4. People "bragging" about how much they can carry frequently aren't actually carrying that much WEIGHT, what they're carrying is VOLUME. A ladder - one of the common "bikes can, actually" items - is large and unweildy, but not heavy. 5. You seem to have a completely warped understanding of how cargo bikes actually work, so let me help you out: my cargo bike has a capacity of 220kg - wait, it's okay, don't clutch those pearls and faint just yet - but that is ALL INCLUSIVE, ie the frame, the rider, and the cargo, not 220kg of EXTRA load. Most of what people put on a cargo bike could be carried on an unelectrified pushbike, it's simply less convenient AND LESS SAFE to do so. Do you want the big bloke wobbling along with his weekly shop stuffed into panniers and backpacks on a "safe" old push bike with rim brakes, or with that extra weight in a cargo bay designed to keep the bike's centre of gravity low with heavy duty disk brakes? 6. If your response to that would legitimately be "neither", then you expose yourself as simply a car-brained buffoon who wants cycling relegated to pointless leisure riding, and we have nothing more to talk about.

@jackcycles maybe you should look into the vast array of uses that cargo bikes are employed for in the Netherlands - unlike the UK, where an increasing number of folks need a pickup truck, just to transport their sandwiches and their egos

@belugabob ah but isn't it those cyclists / cycle lanes just *off* the motorway that are causing the backlog? Or "not building enough multi-lane roads through town centres"...

@wtjs I propose something like this... "A lack of cyclists will not cure any of the problems faced by motorists... Today's episode of Sesame Street was brought to you by the letter 'M' and the number '25' "

@pockstone excellent info👍

@wtjs 👍

@wtjs Named after the River Crimple in Harrogate, strangely.