Daily Mail and GB News journalist objects to 20mph speed limits because… cyclists don’t pay tax (apparently); Sprinting Fabio Jakobsen smacked in face by fan’s phone; Weekend round-up + more on the live blog
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Sprinting Fabio Jakobsen smacked in face by fan's phone
Road racing is definitely back if silly scenes such as these are on our screens…
🇳🇱 Fabio Jakobsen comes in contact with a supporter who knocks the glasses off his face in mid-sprint.
Goes to show that safety on sprint finishes needs to be improved! People should not be able to have their arms so close to the riders when they are sprinting!#VueltaSJ23 pic.twitter.com/SYv9DDvydv
— Domestique (@Domestique___) January 29, 2023
In what other sport would you get over-zealous fans causing their heroes risk of serious injury, enabled by inadequate safety infrastructure at events? It has got to make you flinch thinking about speeding up the inside towards victory knowing any one of the hundreds of spectators could knock you to the ground with an outstretched arm. Even more so when you remember what Fabio Jakobsen has been through…
Jakobsen finished second, behind double stage winner Sam Welsford, and was pictured with red marks on his sunglassless face at the finish…
Not the ending we would have wanted from the #VueltaSJ2023, but luckily @FabioJakobsen stayed upright in that insane finale.
Photo: @BeelWout pic.twitter.com/D9pXG21fW4
— Soudal Quick-Step Pro Cycling Team (@soudalquickstep) January 29, 2023
Fabio Jakobsen taking a call during the sprint. 🙈 The idiot spectator almost caused him to crash. #VueltaSJ2023 pic.twitter.com/2WSaus1HYW
— Mihai Simion (@faustocoppi60) January 29, 2023
Elsewhere at the race this weekend, Miguel Ángel López had something of a point to prove at his first event out of the WorldTour and dominated Friday night’s queen stage, putting 30 seconds into the field on the high-altitude summit finish, followed home by… Filippo Ganna!?
Ganna powered ahead of Egan Bernal and Remco Evenepoel on the mountaintop finish, but with two sprint stages to go, couldn’t claw back any time on López, the now-Team Medellín–EPM rider winning his first race for his new team. Sergio Higuita was third.
You've seen the bad... but here's the good stuff you might have missed at Vuelta a San Juan this weekend
Max Richeze, who recently said he was “disappointed” in Mark Cavendish after the sprinter “stopped answering his phone” when the whole B&B Hotels project was collapsing, took the acclaim of the peloton before last night’s stage having decided to retire after his home race…
Thank you for all @MaxRicheze#VueltaSJ2023
pic.twitter.com/QSNMvpP2xN— Mich74 (@MichGPS) January 29, 2023
If it was one fan’s phone which caused all the bad publicity, here’s another group of fans who we’d rather think are representative of the race’s support…
Y cantidad de asaditos improvisados en las cunetas 🤤#VueltaSJ23 pic.twitter.com/JjZpfkOcl2
— Laura Meseguer (@Laura_Meseguer) January 25, 2023
10/10
Weekend round-up: reviews, awards, an MMA star getting knocked off his bike, tech of the week, Stelvio competition + more
Here’s what you might have missed this weekend…
> REVIEW: Basso Diamante SV Disc Record Hydro Shamal Enigma
> Check out the road.cc Recommends Tyres of the Year 2022/23
> Conor McGregor knocked off his bike… and gets a lift home off the driver who hit him
> Win! Entry and accommodation for the Stelvio Weekender worth £849!
> The rising price of cycling — why are bikes more expensive and how is the industry coping?
> REVIEW: Galibier GrandTour Foul Weather Gilet
Plenty to be keeping you distracted this Monday morning…
Challenge Mallorca bonus sprint
Just a random group of @ChallengeMca participants collectively sprinting across Madrid Airport to catch our connecting flight home @JuliusJelmer @KobeGoossens @ArneMarit @HerregodtsRune @jellewallays @Tomvanasbroeck pic.twitter.com/encYzzxLmK
— David Dekker (@dekkerdavid) January 29, 2023
Injuries caused by potholes cost Scottish councils £3m
The Times has revealed people travelling in Scotland have been awarded more than £3 million in compensation by councils for pothole-induced injuries. More than 1,000 cyclists, motorists and pedestrians have had claims settled in the past five years.
> Cyclists injured on Edinburgh tram line paid £1.2m in compensation
“Far too many roads across Scotland are covered in potholes,” Jim Densham from Cycling UK Scotland said. “Hit a pothole when driving and it could be an expensive trip to the garage but if you’re cycling you could end up in hospital or worse.”
> Is there a pothole crisis on Britain’s roads?
Figures showed that there were 1,040 personal injury claims in relation to potholes and other defective road surfaces between 2017-18 and 2021-22, with the total bill at £3.3 million.
Bike Wheels & Tyres Of The Year | 2023 Awards Show
To wave or not to wave?
Jo’s penned another opinion piece and something tells me this one might cause some discussion…
"It is not realistic to lend helmets": Japanese bike hire providers face challenge of upcoming mandatory helmet law
The incoming mandatory helmet law coming into effect in Japan in April is proving to be difficult for bike hire providers, with one representative of a Tokyo bike share scheme saying it is “not realistic to lend helmets because of the high hurdles involved in preventing theft and disinfecting them after use”.
“Our customers may have to bring their own,” the representative for Docomo Bike Share Inc. concluded.
Critics of the law worry it will prevent people using cycling as a spontaneous mode of transport. Meanwhile the municipal government had been planning a move to ensure Baybike becomes the main means of transport after buses and trains, something it worries the helmet law could threaten.
Giant Group invests $20 million in Stages
Giant Group has bought 32.5 per cent of Stages Cycling’s common stock, according to a filing with the Taiwan stock exchange, first reported by Bicycle Retailer and Industry News.
Giant’s board has approved the purchase of $6.5 million common stock in Stages Cycling Inc. and convertible corporate bonds for $13.5 million.
Giant explained: “Through the integration of indoor and outdoor cycling products, Giant Group can offer consumers with a more comprehensive cycling experience, enabling consumers to enjoy the benefits and pleasures from outdoors to indoors and vice versa, and hence improving the overall quality of the cycling experience.
“Through this strategic alliance, Giant Group can further utilise its brand advantage within the professional cycling market and to consolidate both manufacturing and distribution resources to maximise synergies.
“This, on one hand, increases both product and service values and, on another hand, creates a seamless online and offline cycling ecosystem, thereby accomplishing the goal of future gradual long-term operation performance gains and enabling Giant Group to continue to grow.”
Not near miss of the day
Most HGV drivers I encounter on the bike are brilliant… this guy was holding back and giving us space rather than charging up behind us to dive down the slip road. Little things like this make a big difference #Cycling pic.twitter.com/PXzyWfBR4e
— PassPixi (@PassPixi) January 29, 2023
Riding out of Monday like...
How is he keeping it together? 😭 #VueltaSJ2023
— Anna Mac 🌈 (@AnnamacB) January 29, 2023
Same time, same place tomorrow when Ryan will be back on blog duty…
Daily Mail and GB News journalist objects to 20mph speed limits because... cyclists don't pay tax (apparently)
Hope your Monday’s going well, or at least was going well until you read this from Daily Mail contributor and GB News presenter Andrew Pierce under his Twitter username @toryboypierce…
Ministers considering 20mph limit ob roads in all built up areas to support cyclists. Why do Govts hate motorists and how much tax do cyclists pay? None
— Andrew Pierce (@toryboypierce) January 29, 2023
It’s not Pierce’s road.cc debut though. Last August, during the height of the Shapps-sparked licences, reg plates debacle, he appeared on Good Morning Britain to deliver an all-time anti-cycling bingo rant…
“They are a nightmare. Cyclists are a nightmare. Riding through red lights all the time, riding on the pavement all the time, clattering into people all the time. They are not insured, you don’t know who they are, they don’t wear helmets.”
Anyway, last night’s tweet was news to all of us who apparently shouldn’t be paying tax…
Do some research and maybe try to see if you can find out the truth about so-called ‘road tax’ and who pays it.
— Guy Andrews (@thecoureur) January 29, 2023
And here I was worried about getting my self assessment in on time, but it turns out I don’t have to pay any tax. 🚲🚲👍👍
— Richard Gracie (@richmtb77) January 30, 2023
Well that’s good news. I’m a cyclist. Do you know how I can claim back all the tax I’ve been paying?
— Name cannot be blank (parody) 🦒 (@AracerRacer) January 29, 2023
Why are you pitting motorists against cyclists?
I drive heavy goods vehicles for a living and I choose to cycle recreationally.
The two are not mutually exclusive.
— Shatner’s Bassoon 🏴🇱🇹🇪🇺 (@Medziotojas) January 29, 2023
Of course when we talk about road tax, what we really mean is vehicle excise duty (VED), a tax collected by the DVLA depending on how environmentally-friendly a vehicle is, but hey, shouting road tax is fun apparently…
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@Paul J Van Schip certainly seems a bit of a dick, but he's a European and multiple World Champion on the track, pretty sure you don't get there without having some talent in your legs.
Poor Vincent cannot get over the simple fact that given the choice people prefer dedicated cycling spaces, rather than pretending to be cars like vehicular cyclists.
What is the point of the fancy air sensor if it can't account for changing weather conditions?? If all you care about is a delayed approximation of aerodynamic watts in steady conditions, you don't need any special sensors for that. Just your speed on a decently flat course is enough to approximate rolling resistance and drivetrain losses. And the rest must be aero. If you assume a less aero body position at the same watts, your speed will drop while rolling resistance also drops, which means approximated aero watts goes up. And that's enough to demonstrate what you've shown in your testing protocol ("I sat upright and the number went up a little while later").
Your correction is accurate - it's almost always been "the (lack of) thought that (doesn't) count". "Massive" - less than a billion a year spent on active travel (trying to catch up / building a network across the entire country) Not massive - 6 billion every year (2026-2030) spent on road *maintenance* of existing "already built, goes everywhere, very convenient" road network for inactive travel Ultimately the reason "cycle infra" is *needed* is those unbelievably colossal amounts spent every year (and for more than a century now) on making mass motoring not just viable but apparently the "best choice" for most journeys. As the Dutch and others have shown, the majority of people *are* prepared to cycle and even mix with very light, slow local motor traffic *if* cycling is also made safe and convenient for the whole of their journey (including secure parking at both ends). (The history of the financial drivers of the current situation are a complex topic but note that while people complain about "crumbling roads" and underfunded motor infra - with some reason - by us continuing the fuel duty escalator freeze (for example) we're actually helping motorists pay *even less* for that activity / subsidising more of the cost of driving than ever.)
yes, but people will still object - which was my point.
So ' Priority of Road Users' and 1.5 metre clearance at 30mph has been been reduced to 'sharing'? NCN route 2 here in South Hams is an absolute scream with white vans, tractors and total idiots who refuse,or are totally incapable,to reverse on high Devon banked lanes ...means you have to get off and pedal back to a passing place....could be at that all day...so I don't bother...
@MaxiMinimalist Agreed. The big problem I see now is today's parents grew up being driven to their schools, and therefore, see private motor vehicles as the only viable form of transport. The vast majority of UK infant and primary schools have a catchment area that is within easy walking distance from home to school. Yet, the traffic caused by pupils being driven to/from school is astonishing. Banishing the "School Run" should be a priority for all schools.
When I was a kid (that was during the previous millenium when phones were connected to a plug in the wall), I rode my bicycle to school, music academy, sport grounds, parties even during the winter. The government didn't have to spend, correct that, didn't have to think of spending massive amounts of money to build cycling specific infrastructures. Over the past 3 or 4 decades, cars have grown bigger, taller, safer (for their drivers) and faster. Meanwhile, motorists have become abusive, aggressive, hypersensitive to people moving on two wheels, aka cyclists. Spending billions upon billions on new infrastructure won't address the crux of the matter. Sadly.
Obree had some actual talent in his legs though, in addition to his bike/aero engineering talent.
Малко като опит за доказване е излязло... Никой няма нужда от толкова голям въртящ момент и мощност на шосеен велосипед с тънки гуми, които дори трудно ще предават тази мощност върху пътя. А ако има и ограничение от 25 км/час е още по-безмислено.
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I often wonder why people
I often wonder why people take pictures during events. Many people have their phones out, so that they can look at this sporting event through a tiny screen. I think the same when watching fireworks.
Enjoy the moment.
I’ve done it in the past,
I’ve done it in the past, then it slowly dawned on me I never, ever watch the videos again. I’m cured.
IanMSpencer wrote:
Can I get a hallelujah!
I had a conversation with my now-wife at our first firework display along the lines of “but have you ever watched one of those videos back?” I haven’t seen her take a photo or video of a firework since, and I try to enjoy every moment with her.
I’ve seen it at concerts,
I’ve seen it at concerts, including Roger Waters’ “The Wall” at Wembley in 2013. Probably one of the most spectacular special effects shows I’ve ever experienced, yet so many people watching through a 5″ screen. Then 20000+ shaky copies of it, all from a slightly different angle, uploaded to iCloud/Google Photos, never to be watched again.
There was a short piece on
There was a short piece on the Today programme this morning on 20mph potentially becoming the default. Contributors were a spokesperson for the Association of Advanced Drivers, who was against such a move, but on the grounds that 20mph zones make no difference unless you change the infrastructure and visual clues to slow drivers down. And then James May, who was in favour of more 20mph zones.
Annoyingly the AAD guy has a
Annoyingly the AAD guy has a point, and even then infrastructure like speed bumps won’t fix it. I regularly see cars, vans, motorbikes at speeds in excess of 40mph within local 20mph residential zones. There’s just no enforcement.
He has a partial point.
He has a partial point. Merely changing speed limit signs when the road signals “drive fast down me” doesn’t do much. It does even less with no enforcement. However I believe when this came up in some of the Scottish 20mph debates (spoiler – idea chucked out) I think there was some research presented (sorry – link not to hand) to show it did have *some* slowing effect even though the average speed was still above 20mph. (Example – average speed in “default 30mph” compared to that in 20mph area).
More enforcement is needed but it’s not “the answer”, just a part of it. Infra changes are needed too. For example if you can’t rat-run through an area there may be much less incentive to speed. You mention speed bumps – they’re neither the best solution or without other issues e.g. for cyclists. However they’re in operation 24 hours per day and you can’t just use a lawyer to get round their effects!
Yes, I’m regularly a road
Yes, I’m regularly a road block at 30mph in my car which some people overtake in a 30 limit. Signs are not all that is needed, you need to make people follow the rules as well but there is no enforcement in most areas.
Maybole ran a 20 for a number
Maybole ran a 20 for a number of years to stop traffic racing through for the ferry. Even had to install avg speed cameras to enforce it. Not sure if it is still in place as they’ve now got a bypass which pretty much removes 95% of the through traffic. The twenty was pretty much ignored and when I drove through you could see traffic all backing up behind me.
It is still there and still
It is still there and still ignored by at least 90% of traffic because there is no traffic calming to enforce it, merely a few repeater signs. The average speed cameras predate the 20 limit, they run from Kilmarnock to just south of Girvan but I don’t know anyone who has been caught by them so I wonder how high the tolerance is on them.
Yeah. I’d forgotten to
Yeah. I’d forgotten to account for that. With driving the 77 so often I’ve forgotten how long they’ve been up. The camera was more obvious with the new twenty. Like you I know of no one who has been the beneficiary of a FPN.
You’re right about the bypass
You’re right about the bypass though, it makes it much more pleasant to ride through the town at any time of day, including the old road north out of the town that is now numbered the B77 up to Smithston bridge.
Steve K wrote:
I too heard that, and wondered why they hadn’t got anyone from the groups who were supposed to be the beneficiaries, pedestrians and cyclists, but then I remembered; BBC.
eburtthebike wrote:
To be fair, I think James May is a cyclist and a pedestrian.
Steve K wrote:
I too heard that, and wondered why they hadn’t got anyone from the groups who were supposed to be the beneficiaries, pedestrians and cyclists, but then I remembered; BBC.
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To be fair, I think James May is a cyclist and a pedestrian.
[/quote]Indeed, but not exactly with any democratic, organisational authority, just his opinion. Surely they could have got St Chris of Boardman?
I hope that spectator had
I hope that spectator had signed up for the optional insurance on their phone…
I’ve thought for a long while
I’ve thought for a long while that sprint finishes should have “virtual barriers”, white lines a metre or two in from the physical barriers, if you cross them you’re relegated to last. This would eliminate the danger of riders hitting barriers and at the same time mean idiots with phones couldn’t get within touching distance of the riders.
That would be a good idea,
That would be a good idea, almost strange that organisers / UCI haven’t implemented somethinh similar already (after a few collisions with the barriers).
But then you’re getting into
But then you’re getting into the world of VAR and the wait while we find out if someone did indeed cross the line or not. Low tech solution would be a double depth barrier in the last few hundred metres so the fans can’t get within selfie reach of the riders. Would reduce the available road width by maybe 1.5 metres?
Yep, that would certainly
Yep, that would certainly obviate the problem of fans hitting the riders, but how often does it actually happen? Riders hitting, or being pushed into, barriers happens much more frequently. Take your point about VAR but the commissaires always check the footage for legality anyway so it could just be added to their checks.
That’s true. Seen a good few
That’s true. Seen a good few sprint replays while the commissaires do their thing. It’s a tough one. A mad bunch sprint is a thrilling thing to witness, and nobody wants to see the riders get hurt. But at the same time we want to see them elbow to elbow. Either way, fans need to be educated to stay out the way whether out on the open road sectors or at the finish line.
I’ve come to the conclusion
I’ve come to the conclusion we should pity people like ToryboyPierce. Imagine setting off in life full of hopes and dreams and then looking around one day and realising the height of your career is going to be as a right wing propagandist peddling hate and spite for the Heil and NFNews.
Imagine how curdled his life must be.
Exactly that. And calling
Exactly that. And calling yourself ‘Toryboy’ on Twitter. WTF?
Surreyrider wrote:
Masochist.
Surreyrider wrote:
Might as well just call himself thick and save a few keystrokes.
Lets not forget ipayroadtax
Lets not forget ipayroadtax.com
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7enDsD5bpc
toryboypierce wrote:
FTFY – but it’s a lot less snappy now.
Another awful piece of
Another awful piece of journalism about yet more road fatalaties, this time from The Guardian:
“Two die after crash involving pedestrians in Pontypridd”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/28/two-die-after-crash-involving-pedestrians-in-pontypridd
Not a single mention of the driver of the car which struck and killed them. I guess at least they didn’t call it an accident.
I would happily support a
I would happily support a 20mph speed limit in built up areas and its not just about protecting cyclists.
I am convinced the higher amount of potholes are partially down to the current trend of heavier vehicles on the roads. Reducing the speed limit would do a lot to reduce the wear caused. The average SUV with electric or hybid power weigh over 2 tonnes. The roads were not designed for these. Trucks and large vans may weigh more but they distribute that weight over a larger area and on wider tyres. An SUV travelling at 30mph+ weighing more than double that of the average family car a decade ago is acclelerating the damage to the roads. That effects everyone especially the more vulnerable road users who are more likely to be injured by gaping chasms ready to swallow your front wheel.
Good points. Also the hybrids
Good points. Also the hybrids weighing so much more have more inertial mass and are therefore, at any given speed, more likely to kill you should be hit.
20 mph certainly isn’t for me as a cyclist, I can’t keep it up very long.
VIPcyclist wrote:
I’m not sure whether the car weighs 20 – 40 times as much as the pedestrian or 30-60 makes any real difference. Essentially the car’s momentum is barely affected by the impact, everything is about accelerating the pedestrian.
Off the back wrote:
I’m always confused about why people use the caveat ‘in built up’ areas. What about country lanes where there are no footpaths or street lights – why don’t these roads get 20mph speed limits? Why are they treated like defacto motorways?
That country road could be
That country road could be 30mph it could easily and more likely be 60mph. Drivers should realistically drive to the conditions. But in built up areas you have a much higher volume of pedestrians and vulnerable road users. More likelihood of encountering stop start traffic where speeds change quickly. More incidents of the unexpected happening. Why slap 20mph on quiet roads with a low amount of traffic? There is a very obvious reason it’s a 20mph limit outside schools now. And if that needs explaining then hope is lost on some .
jh2727 wrote:
you want 20mph on every rural road that does not have a footpath or lights?
I certainly think these
I certainly think these pedestrians, drovers, carters and horsepeople shouldn’t be haring through the countryside at more than … oh, wait…
Many of the country roads (if we’re saying “no lights”) have simply gained tarmac, and possibly a bit more width. (But not a footway or cycleway. No room, you see…) They’re as windy as when the effective speed limit was “fast horse”, still have poor sight lines, rapid changes in elevation, are now “narrow” (having two vehicles pass at speed). But of course – have at it because derestricted. TBH I sometimes wonder why we don’t see many more vehicles in ditches, burnt out behind a ruined wall on a corner etc.
Yes.
Yes.
me too
me too
Maybe the ‘cyclists not
Maybe the ‘cyclists not paying tax’ is aimed at us folk who use cycle to work schemes? All this time they’ve been right..
Maybe the ‘cyclists not
Maybe the ‘cyclists not paying tax’ is aimed at us folk who use cycle to work schemes?
No, it’s to distract attention from the fact that in some regions, like Lancashire, VED is now just an optional extra. I have been watching BF64 TGE evading VED, and initially MOT as well, for 8 months now as he crops up around Garstang to the complete disinterest of Lancashire Constabulary and DVLA
If ypu see it parked up,
If you see it parked up, remove its number plates. Be interested to see how they get replacement ones with no valid docs
I’m confused – you’re on Road
I’m confused – you’re on Road.cc so you presumably know what the internet is, but yet appear to be entirely unfamiliar with Amazon and Google…
Can you order UK number
Can you order UK number plates on amazon? Im sure the ability to source plates outside of the of authorized places like halfords or dealerships has been restricted. I know you could order plates from the ROI but thats not possible as easily as it used to be. You need to prove owenership, V5 and other docs which they can check it against to ensure its road legal and to prevent ringers etc.
Amazon Marketplace probably
Amazon Marketplace probably so some authorised seller just using it for market reach.
You can order compliant (or
You can order compliant (or indeed non-compliant ‘show’) plates online, no ID docs necessary. I generally do when needed, as they are much cheaper than dealers etc.
Can you order UK number
From Amazon:
A Legal Pair Of GB BADGED Number Plates constructed front and rear plates. As seen in photos. Pair ( 2 Plates front and back) 100% UK road and MOT legal, number plates for front and rear placement on Cars, Vans, Trailer or Caravans. These high quality number plates use UK Charles Wright font. They are road legal and MOT Friendly. Comes with 10x Sticky pads. All number plate will state our LTD company name and the BS standards number Product Features: Durable acrylic construction Digital technology Conforms to ‘BS AU 145e’ compliance. Unless stated, you will receive the plate which is shown in the image and described within the item title. Please note the text in the image is used for illustration purposes only, this will be replaced by your registration text shown on the top of your V5 document you supply to us.
No V5 = No plates.
Correct, same rules apply for
Correct, same rules apply for online retailers as buying in person. I bought some eurostyle metal plates for my van from Amazon, when the order was placed, i was contacted to send over scans of my V5 (for proof of VRM) and driving licence (for ID). They came correctly spaced, correct typeface, and name & postcode of retailer etched at the bottom.
There is a loophole for this. It’s possible to buy “show plates”, these are illegal for use on the road and only for off road exhibition or show purposes. The details of the buyer are not recorded and you can have anything you like, typeface, spacing, etc. You don’t even need to “own” the VRM. Hence why you see such shite on the roads.
mark1a wrote:
I don’t even know where my V5 is. I hope nothing happens to my plates.
wycombewheeler wrote:
Same here. I bought a bike carrier that needed a numberplate and I simply couldn’t get one without the V5. Ended up paying for another V5.
There’s all shades of grey
There’s all shades of grey between a legit legal number plate and no number plate at all, and they’re all out there. Police ain’t bothered. Illegibly dark plate, illegible font, fictitious registration mark, no plate at all – I see them all every day. Plod [i]must [/i]see them too.
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Oh dear. Clever sarcasm backfired.
Oh well.
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Well one thing totally
Well one thing totally ignored with clever sarcasm is, yes maybe you could buy plates from a dodgy site via Google. But that wouldn’t happen in a day. You can get new plates made in Halfords on the same day with proof of ownership etc but is a dodgy online dealer getting you instant plates? What does the driver of an untaxed, uninsured van do if their plates are removed? If anything the removal keeps this vehicle off the road potentially saving lives if there is an issue with it stopping it being taxed etc.
You only need a V5 ‘log book’
You only need a V5 ‘log book’ to get UK legal plates made up. The number plate maker (who’s licensed by DVLA) doesn’t need to ask for anything else.
The process online may be different, egoroof of i.d. or address.
I have yet to see a car with
I have yet to see a car with a green number plate yelled at and barged off the road for “NOT PAYING ROAD TAX!!!!”
(I did see one nearly crash sprinting away from the lights when I used the empty second lane rather than being 4th in a queue and the lights changed conveniently letting me glide through. This so incensed the Jaguar i-thing driver that he floored it and then had to brake on the sharp bend about 20 metres further on, nearly losing control. He was then so pissed off that I sat at the lights next to him to turn off a couple of miles later, he set off on red and amber, again showing the same amazing acceleration and complete lack of control).
The twat with his phone over
The twat with his phone over the barriers isn’t a fan, just another selfish prat trying to impress his few followers on social media, that’s he’s at the bike race.
A bit like the lassie who caused the pile up at the TdF the other year. Why are they even there if all they want is their 15 seconds of fame. How hard can it be to live in the moment rather than through the lense of your phone?
Be good if we could stop his
Be good if we could stop his type from breeding, I doubt he will strengthen the gene pool much.
Andrew Pierce, obviously not
Andrew Pierce, obviously not the sharpest spoon in the fork drawer, has utterly missed the point about 20mph zones. They are not particularly for the benefit of cyclists, they are primarily to reduce the number and severity of road traffic collisions involving pedestrians. If you see this as a war on motorists and don’t particularly get upset about people being run over, then you might want to consider getting your moral compass recalibrated.
Mungecrundle wrote:
Man’s a cretin.
I don’t feel hated when I am driving and see a 20 limit sign.
I feel hated when twats like Pierce spew their anti-cycling bingo clichés and imply that my safety should be compromised because of one tax levied on my motor vehicles but not the one I happen to be using at that point.
How stupid do you have to be to think like this?
I had a mini-twit with
I had a mini-twit with another 8n response to a 20 is plenty tweet :
“That’s great coming from Mr slow. 30 is just fine thanks. Stop punishing the motorists in favour of cyclists.”
My reply:
“Don’t you mean “Stop punishing the motorists in favour of pedestrians?”
After all, it is motorists who seem unable to moderate their driving to stop colliding with thousands of pedestrians a year – killing hundreds.”
I’m curious how often the
I’m curious how often the Daily Mail or GB News complain about the tax avoidance measures commonly used by Tory cabinet ministers?
I read an article last week
I read an article last week (cannot remember where) but basically commenting that when very wealthy people are careless with their tax returns they never seem to pay too much tax… Odd, that
OldRidgeback wrote:
That’s totally different – they’re using their smarts (or rather the smarts of the accountants they can afford to employ) to pay less as that’s what Capitalism is all about. Cyclists, however, are just some kind of vermin that get in the way of their chauffeurs.
OldRidgeback wrote:
Jonathan Harold Esmond Vere Harmsworth, 4th Viscount Rothermere is the main shareholder of the company that owns the Daily Fail and “has non-dom tax status and owns his media businesses through a complex structure of offshore holdings and trusts”…..
At what point do riders and
At what point do riders and team simply start suing race organisers and the UCI etc. We are seeing it with football (where former players are suing for dementia because they headed the ball too much) and rugby (where former players are suing for dementia obtained through playing a sport where you spent 80 minutes actively trying to knock chunks out of each other) – it seems to me an open and shut case where the UCI and race organisers persistently and repeatedly fail to take any measures to protect riders going at 70kph or more from pedestrians, street furniture etc.
I would rather pro cycling wasn’t sued into oblivion (it would no doubt cause a collapse in the global pharmaceutical industry as an unintended consequence) but really this has to stop and its pretty clear that until race organisers feel it in their bank statements, they won’t take the necessary action to protect riders.
Is that Giant buying into
Is that Giant buying into Stages the same Giant who aren’t paying suppliers?
Nick T wrote:
It’s OK, they’ve asked for a 45 day payment holiday.