Five cool things coming soon from Specialized, Lusso, RH+, RoadHawk and Scott

nniff wrote:

Not 'good', 'good enough' - there's a big difference...  And as for cost, I don't want GPS, speedo, Heart rate, tram lines, lights and what have you,  just a decent run time, an image quality sufficient to read number plates and that's about it.  Surely not too much to ask.  A Fly6 did most of that

I suppose that's the thing though, some want HD, some want a do-it-all, some want GPS overlays. My commute isn't that long so battery life is low down, I quite like a camera that connects to my phone so i can quickly delete non-important footage. GoPro seem to be centred around 4k so the market seems to be looking at unnecessarily high image quality at an increasingly high price.

Is there a mass market for what you're looking for, i mean the demographics on this site are probably skewed. But if you or I took these ideas (loop, battery, average picture), hit the kickstarter route, went through product development and released it would we wipe our own faces? Or would Johnny Sportive be on here asking why it didn't include a light, or wasn't smaller, or HD?

alansmurphy wrote:

nniff wrote:

Not 'good', 'good enough' - there's a big difference...  And as for cost, I don't want GPS, speedo, Heart rate, tram lines, lights and what have you,  just a decent run time, an image quality sufficient to read number plates and that's about it.  Surely not too much to ask.  A Fly6 did most of that

 

I suppose that's the thing though, some want HD, some want a do-it-all, some want GPS overlays. My commute isn't that long so battery life is low down, I quite like a camera that connects to my phone so i can quickly delete non-important footage. GoPro seem to be centred around 4k so the market seems to be looking at unnecessarily high image quality at an increasingly high price.

 

Is there a mass market for what you're looking for, i mean the demographics on this site are probably skewed. But if you or I took these ideas (loop, battery, average picture), hit the kickstarter route, went through product development and released it would we wipe our own faces? Or would Johnny Sportive be on here asking why it didn't include a light, or wasn't smaller, or HD?

 

 

There absolutely is a market, I want something to replace my cheap, but OK SJCAM, the number 1 requirement is long battery life. Cost of larger batteries is minimal, the battery for the SJCAM is less than $20. An extra $40 of battery capacity and support for micro SDXC is all it would take.  Any remotely serious cyclist is going to be doing rides longer than 90 minutes. Anyone who brings a decent camera with, say 6+ hours of recording will make a killing.

imaca wrote:

alansmurphy wrote:

nniff wrote:

Not 'good', 'good enough' - there's a big difference...  And as for cost, I don't want GPS, speedo, Heart rate, tram lines, lights and what have you,  just a decent run time, an image quality sufficient to read number plates and that's about it.  Surely not too much to ask.  A Fly6 did most of that

 

I suppose that's the thing though, some want HD, some want a do-it-all, some want GPS overlays. My commute isn't that long so battery life is low down, I quite like a camera that connects to my phone so i can quickly delete non-important footage. GoPro seem to be centred around 4k so the market seems to be looking at unnecessarily high image quality at an increasingly high price.

 

Is there a mass market for what you're looking for, i mean the demographics on this site are probably skewed. But if you or I took these ideas (loop, battery, average picture), hit the kickstarter route, went through product development and released it would we wipe our own faces? Or would Johnny Sportive be on here asking why it didn't include a light, or wasn't smaller, or HD?

 

 

There absolutely is a market, I want something to replace my cheap, but OK SJCAM, the number 1 requirement is long battery life. Cost of larger batteries is minimal, the battery for the SJCAM is less than $20. An extra $40 of battery capacity and support for micro SDXC is all it would take.  Any remotely serious cyclist is going to be doing rides longer than 90 minutes. Anyone who brings a decent camera with, say 6+ hours of recording will make a killing.

This is an assumption but based on the videos I see posted on YouTube I would say that the majority of these cameras are used for commutes. I am pretty sure that the majority of bicycle commutes are less than 90 minutes so that battery capacity would be suitable for the assumed majority market and the addition of a battery pack opens it up to the large(?) minority that will want to go further. Those that go further may indeed be already carrying a suitable multi-port external battery pack for their other devices (satnav, phone, etc.) meaning that it is no extra burden.
It makes good business sense to design your product for the mass market to reduce production costs through higher volumes and produce add-ons to broaden the appeal to the minority markets.

nniff wrote:

Is this the one?   Seeing as there's no mention of battery life, I doubt  it.

From the Q&A on the Amazon listing:

Quote:

In terms of battery life, the internal battery will last for around 90 minutes but our waterproof battery pack extension (sold separately) will power your camera for a further 4.5 hours.

So, no. (Unless you're willing to contemplate external charging bricks and related wiring attachments etc.)

nniff wrote:

Will someone, who makes cameras for bike, please recognise that battery life is the key thing.  

I don't care if it can take high def this and that, or at least it could if the battery hadn't gone flat half an hour ago.

I used to have a Cyliq rear camera.  That was good, but after a year it wouldn't hold a charge.  Their front light will tell me when my gas bill needs to be paid and what have you, but it's a stupid price.   Will someone please make a bike camera that's simple, overwites from the beginning when it fills a card, has a proper long-life battery (in both senses), takes a good enough image for recording commuting and doesn't cost the earth.   Surely not too much to ask?

Is this the one?   Seeing as there's no mention of battery life, I doubt  it.

Says on their website it is 90 minutes, no mention of battery capacity or availability of spares so you can swap out.

BehindTheBikesheds wrote:

The 'Shark' jersey doesn't even fit the person in the pic, wrinkled up as fuck.

Luckily that's not Stu, so it doesn't matter as he won't be reviewing it! I'm guessing they just grab any old dude who happens to be around when kit comes in for the photos. As long as it nearly fits thats good enough for a pic.