London Zoo opposes cycle superhighway – says gate closures will make it "extremely difficult" for visitors and deliveries

emishi55 wrote:

CAMPAIGNERS have launched a legal challenge against Transport for London over its hugely divisive “cycling super highway”.

I wouldn't worry too much about this.  TfL/London boroughs have plenty of recent experience of legal claims against cycle and road re-configuration schemes and have won each case.  The legal judgements for these cases provides useful additional guidance for TfL as well.

So TfL's lawyers have lots of practice ensuring that everything is legally squeaky clean and if they haven't done this, then they deserve to lose.

It would actually be good if the objectors did proceed with a legal challenge because they would have to put their money where their mouth is and pay for it, then it would be poetic justice if they lost and the judge awarded costs against them as happened to the objectors in Waltham Forest.

AWPeleton wrote:

As someone who has lived in Kenya and visited numerous game parks in other African countries i find all zoo's disgusting habitats and regardless of how well they are run its not a natural habitat for the animal.

So in the end no amount of whinging by the people who run the zoo will have any effect on me.

I agree but there's also a case for important conservation work done by zoos (not necessarily all zoos though). Zoos may be a necessary evil to introduce more people to the amazing creatures sharing the world with us and make more people think about the dwindling habitats.

It does sound like a suspiciously politically motivated whinge to me as zoos are usually scrabbling for money.

As someone who has worked at the institution in question, I suggest you do a bit more research into the conservation initiatives run by ZSL. Some of the animals maintained within the collection exist only because of the work done there and in similar zoos. Seeing as the zoo receives no government support, visitor revenues fund the projects directly.

AWPeleton wrote:

As someone who has lived in Kenya and visited numerous game parks in other African countries i find all zoo's disgusting habitats and regardless of how well they are run its not a natural habitat for the animal.

So in the end no amount of whinging by the people who run the zoo will have any effect on me.

Sharpie wrote:

As someone who has worked at the institution in question, I suggest you do a bit more research into the conservation initiatives run by ZSL. Some of the animals maintained within the collection exist only because of the work done there and in similar zoos. Seeing as the zoo receives no government support, visitor revenues fund the projects directly.

AWPeleton wrote:

As someone who has lived in Kenya and visited numerous game parks in other African countries i find all zoo's disgusting habitats and regardless of how well they are run its not a natural habitat for the animal.

So in the end no amount of whinging by the people who run the zoo will have any effect on me.

I did some reasearch as you mentioned and the Zoological Society London does some grand work but not in the zoo. Its all out and about. Dont get me wrong i dislike marine parks and all the razzmatazz that goes with sea life centres as well.

More effort should be made to protect the animals / birds etc habitat. For example a Gorilla covers an area of between 3 - 15km squared, not a small enclosure.............i could go on but this forum is not the time or place, sorry.

AWPeleton wrote:

As someone who has lived in Kenya and visited numerous game parks in other African countries i find all zoo's disgusting habitats and regardless of how well they are run its not a natural habitat for the animal.

So in the end no amount of whinging by the people who run the zoo will have any effect on me.

Sharpie wrote:

As someone who has worked at the institution in question, I suggest you do a bit more research into the conservation initiatives run by ZSL. Some of the animals maintained within the collection exist only because of the work done there and in similar zoos. Seeing as the zoo receives no government support, visitor revenues fund the projects directly.

Funding their establishment by running Friday evenings where drunk people taunt the animals & pour drinks on them or where the various animal handlers glass each other?

Sounds like a rosy place!

zanf wrote:

AWPeleton wrote:

As someone who has lived in Kenya and visited numerous game parks in other African countries i find all zoo's disgusting habitats and regardless of how well they are run its not a natural habitat for the animal.

So in the end no amount of whinging by the people who run the zoo will have any effect on me.

Sharpie wrote:

As someone who has worked at the institution in question, I suggest you do a bit more research into the conservation initiatives run by ZSL. Some of the animals maintained within the collection exist only because of the work done there and in similar zoos. Seeing as the zoo receives no government support, visitor revenues fund the projects directly.

Funding their establishment by running Friday evenings where drunk people taunt the animals & pour drinks on them or where the various animal handlers glass each other?

Sounds like a rosy place!

I can't believe this is even a thing!  Get a grip London Zoo.

ibike wrote:

"Some of our visitors, like school children, have to rely on cars or coaches."

Aren't school children precisely who would benefit most from a safe segregated cycleway?

On a school trip, almost certainly from outside central London ?

fukawitribe wrote:

ibike wrote:

"Some of our visitors, like school children, have to rely on cars or coaches."

Aren't school children precisely who would benefit most from a safe segregated cycleway?

On a school trip, almost certainly from outside central London ?

Coaches Perhaps. Cars No.

Paul M wrote:

fukawitribe wrote:

ibike wrote:

"Some of our visitors, like school children, have to rely on cars or coaches."

Aren't school children precisely who would benefit most from a safe segregated cycleway?

On a school trip, almost certainly from outside central London ?

Coaches Perhaps. Cars No.

Indeed, that was the main point I think.