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Rapha + Palace EF Changeout Giro kit  Tanel – picture credit S J Hockett @dragcoefficient
Rapha + Palace EF Changeout Giro kit Tanel - picture credit S J Hockett @dragcoefficient (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Winning or minging? A gallery of THAT EF Pro Cycling kit; Simmons ‘sorry’ for THAT tweet; Stationary objects attack Edinburgh cars; Brajkovic says racism was endemic at Bahrain-Merida in 2017 + more

Today’s live blog with Alex Bowden (daytime) and Simon MacMichael (evening)
  • by Alex Bowden
Thu, Oct 01, 2020 08:23
48

SUMMARY

  • Who was in the wrong? The driver making an illegal left turn across a cycle lane without looking or the cyclist?
  • Baroness Jones unimpressed with South London Press's "whose fault was it?" tweet
  • 'Stupid' stationary objects attacking motor vehicles in Edinburgh
  • Janez Brajkovic says racism was endemic at Bahrain-Merida in 2017
  • Journalist who inadvertently brought about Quinn Simons suspension 'feels horrible' about situation
  • South London Press posts correction
  • Chris Froome is a good bloke
  • Watch the women's cross-country final at the UCI Mountain Bike World Cup
  • Manchester to build 55 miles of protected “Beeways” plus pop-up routes and low traffic neighbourhoods
  • Hectoring road sign news
  • Boardman and Burnham rode in today
  • Two Hani x Pinarello F12’s to be auctioned for charity for World Bicycle Relief
  • Geraint Thomas feeling "ready" for the Giro as Ineos Grenadiers names team
  • EF Pro Cycling's BIG surprise?
  • Vulnerable man's bike snatched out of his hands in Swindon
  • Giro d'Italia to get off to a fast start
  • Full gallery of THAT EF Pro Cycling kit that has Twitter divided
  • Trek-Segafredo and Quinn Simmons issue joint statement after THAT tweet
Rapha + Palace EF Changeout Giro kit  Tanel – picture credit S J Hockett @dragcoefficient
Rapha + Palace EF Changeout Giro kit Tanel - picture credit S J Hockett @dragcoefficient (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
1 October 2020, 08:23

Who was in the wrong? The driver making an illegal left turn across a cycle lane without looking or the cyclist?

The South London Press has a question for you.

Watch the moment a cyclist narrowly avoids a collision with Range Rover in Tooting. Who do you think was in the wrong? #cycling #RoadSafety pic.twitter.com/tmCx36mz85

— South London Press (@SthLondonPress) September 30, 2020

The fact there is a ‘no left turn’ sign is surely pertinent.

If you’ve more vim, vigour and resilience than me, why not check out the replies to the tweet to get a feel for how people see these things.

1 October 2020, 08:23

Baroness Jones unimpressed with South London Press's "whose fault was it?" tweet

Rather stupid question by @SthLondonPress which panders to the aggressive and outdated anti-cycling lobby. https://t.co/YF9PntqkBf

— Jenny Jones (@GreenJennyJones) September 30, 2020

1 October 2020, 08:23

'Stupid' stationary objects attacking motor vehicles in Edinburgh

Those stupid and needless bollards on Comiston Rd just caused two accidents within 100 yards of each other. Wheels of two cars wrecked within two minutes. Good work, council. pic.twitter.com/6aj7hDJq09

— Adam Morris (@AdamMorrisEdin) September 30, 2020

1 October 2020, 08:23

Janez Brajkovic says racism was endemic at Bahrain-Merida in 2017

After Trek-Segafredo’s Quinn Simmons’ was stood down from racing yesterday, 2010 Criterium du Dauphine winner Janez Brajkovic has spoken out about the culture at Bahrain-Merida when he raced for them in 2017.

…”Are you a racist”
Yes, I can’t stand them, he replied. Everyone heard him, nobody did nothing….That’s what’s so sad and wrong with some people…And some nations more prone to racism than others.. They should not be in our sport, any sport. I felt so sorry for Tsgabu.

— Janibrajkovic (@janibrajkovic) October 1, 2020

1 October 2020, 08:23

Journalist who inadvertently brought about Quinn Simons suspension 'feels horrible' about situation

“Racism is unacceptable. Period,” said Trek-Segafredo after its rider Quinn Simmons replied “Bye” with a waving brown hand emoji when a journalist asked supporters of Donald Trump to unfollow her on Twitter.

José Been says she feels ‘horrible’ about the situation.

I lay awake for 3,5 hours last night. I feel horrible about the situation and terrible for @QuinnSimmons9 to miss his beloved classics.

To suspend him would never be my choice.

To cancel @TrekBikes most certainly isn’t my choice. I just bought a new Domane myself on Monday.

— José Been (@TourDeJose) October 1, 2020

1 October 2020, 08:23

South London Press posts correction

The general theme of the replies: ‘The driver would still be in the wrong even without the ‘no left-turn’ sign.’

CORRECTION: Yesterday we posted this video to spark a conversation about cycle safety in South London. But we did not see the ‘no left turn’ sign before the change of camera angle which puts the driver completely in the wrong, for that we apologise. #cycling #RoadSafety https://t.co/nESxFpO1G6

— South London Press (@SthLondonPress) October 1, 2020

1 October 2020, 08:23

Chris Froome is a good bloke

@chrisfroome by any chance have you been down Col d’Ordino, descent to Ordino. Just wondering what the memorial to my son Richard James Taylor @t4ntrick85 looks like this year? Is it still there? Was going to add to it this year but.. He was descending happy as Larry 2 years ago.

— Jackie Taylor (@JackieTaylor32) September 29, 2020

💙 pic.twitter.com/dqmJyuJfQO

— Chris Froome (@chrisfroome) September 30, 2020

1 October 2020, 08:23

Watch the women's cross-country final at the UCI Mountain Bike World Cup

It’s on now. Click here.

The coverage is good. Plenty of info on the rider and course in the sidebar.

1 October 2020, 08:23

Manchester to build 55 miles of protected “Beeways” plus pop-up routes and low traffic neighbourhoods

Greater Manchester is looking to build 55 miles of cycling and walking routes by next Christmas, plus around 25 miles of pop-up routes and two low-traffic neighbourhoods.

GM’s #cycling and #walking revolution is kick starting next year with 55 miles of routes and 140 crossings to be delivered enabling thousands more journeys on foot or by bike. 🚴

For more info 👉 https://t.co/MJOU9dMdrT#Bee Network pic.twitter.com/k9VbEY7ItE

— Transport for Greater Manchester 🚲🚶🏾‍♀️ (@OfficialTfGM) October 1, 2020

Funded by the Mayor’s Challenge Fund, there will be Bee Network schemes in all 10 of Greater Manchester’s districts.

The region’s Walking and Cycling Commissioner, Chris Boardman, said: “We started this mission nearly two years ago and I’m so pleased with the significant work GM’s local authorities have been doing behind the scenes to get this monumental mission underway.

“The Bee Network was a vision; now, having completed the planning, paperwork and many consultations, we are ready to start making it a reality. It will create better places to live and work, give those with a car the option to leave it at home and for those who don’t, it will provide them with a reliable, safe and pleasant network to walk or ride to shops, schools and workplaces. This is the beginning of Greater Manchester’s twenty first century transport revolution.”  

1 October 2020, 08:23

Hectoring road sign news

Who produced this less-than-pithy beauty?

Road closure between Oxenhope and Hebden Bridge is driving motorists to despair https://t.co/OwtY1Qj0QD pic.twitter.com/1COSetCAfq

— Keighley News (@KeighleyNews) October 1, 2020

1 October 2020, 08:23

Boardman and Burnham rode in today

 
 
 
 
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After 30km ride to work @AndyBurnhamGM Best way to lead is by doing 👏👏👏

A post shared by Chris boardman (@chris_boardmanbikes) on Oct 1, 2020 at 6:34am PDT

1 October 2020, 08:23

Two Hani x Pinarello F12’s to be auctioned for charity for World Bicycle Relief

Pinarello and New York architect Hani Rashid have developed a super limited collaboration based on Pinarello’s flagship road bike, the Dogma F12.

 
 
 
 
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What goes into designing a custom Dogma F12? According to Architect Hani Rashid, “I approached the F12 frame as a three dimensional ‘tectonic’ canvas on which I could inscribe, notate and ‘tattoo’ with what I saw as the inherent geometries and math behind the frames beautiful engineered elegance”

A post shared by Pinarello US (@pinarello_us) on Oct 1, 2020 at 6:00am PDT

Two of these bikes are being auctioned off for World Bicycle Relief.

Full details at eBay.

1 October 2020, 08:23

Geraint Thomas feeling "ready" for the Giro as Ineos Grenadiers names team

Geraint Thomas, who is riding the Giro d’Italia for the first time since 2017, will be supported by Jonathan Castroviejo, Rohan Dennis, Filippo Ganna, Tao Geoghegan Hart, Jonathan Narvaez, Salvatore Puccio and Ben Swift.

Thomas said: “I’m excited to lead the Team again in Italy and I feel ready. It’s been a strange year for everyone but it’s great to have this big objective. The legs are feeling good – Tirreno went well and then the World Time Trial was a confidence booster for me. Now stage one is nearly here and I’m more motivated than ever.

“I’ve a long association with Italy – I’ve lived here, I’ve raced for an Italian team, and I had some rough luck the last time I came to the Giro. I’m determined to right that wrong this time around.

“We’re taking a great Team and I’ve got total faith in the guys around me. Racing a Grand Tour with Swifty again will be a pleasure – we’ve been good mates since I was 12 and he’ll be our guide on the road. Tao and I have raced really well together before, most notably when I won the Dauphine, and Filippo is obviously flying after the Worlds. Puccio has so much experience of the Giro, young Jonny Narvaez is going really well and obviously everybody knows what Castro and Rohan can do.

“The Team couldn’t have supported me any better in the lead up to this race and I know those seven guys will do the job and support me on the road. Now it’s time to fight for the maglia rosa.”

1 October 2020, 08:23

EF Pro Cycling's BIG surprise?

Did you sign Simmons? 🤪

— Johan W (@wennbergs0) October 1, 2020

1 October 2020, 08:23

Vulnerable man's bike snatched out of his hands in Swindon

A 43-year-old Swindon man who has mental health issues and autism had his bike taken out of his hands outside St Barnabas Parish Church in Gorse Hill.

3) Anger as vulnerable man’s £350 bike is snatched outside Gorse Hill churchhttps://t.co/eylqdzFH2S pic.twitter.com/wJzJgRpVbU

— Swindon Advertiser (@swindonadver) September 30, 2020

The Swindon Advertiser reports that the man has been staying at the SW Bed and Breakfast in Malvern Road.

Owner Sara Wheeler said: “I’ve cared for him over the last nine months and he’s become part of the family. We bought the bike in July and he loves it. On the day it was stolen he had a bad mental health episode and he took it with him to the church.

“As he was sat down a man went up to him and said ‘I’m taking that’ and walked off with it in broad daylight. He was so upset and so angry, it took him a while to save up for that bike and now it’s gone.”

She added: “I was mortified when I found out someone had taken advantage of someone who is vulnerable. He sees the bike like a child sees a teddy bear. It’s so important to him and I just hope we can get it back.

“I saw it a couple days later and saw this kid with it who was between 15 and 17-years-old. He was with an older gentleman. They were tethering it up to one of the rubbish bins just opposite the Beijing Chef (in Cricklade Road).

“I couldn’t dump my car anywhere and go look at it, I just couldn’t do anything about it.”

A spokesperson for Wiltshire Police said the incident occurred on Tuesday, September 15.

“It is reported that the man was sat on the wall of the church at approximately 2pm when it is alleged he was approached by another man who has taken the bike and left with it.

“The bike is a dark green Vengeance bike with a 32-inch frame and has bright green writing on the wheels. Anyone who may have seen the incident, or may have seen the bike since or on an online marketplace is asked to call 101 and quote crime reference number 54200094715.”

1 October 2020, 08:23

Giro d'Italia to get off to a fast start

Downhill TT. I feel like I’m about to find my real calling within cycling on Saturday.
•
The Giro TT speed record is 58kph, my mildly ambitious modelling has us breaking that on Saturday. Then I put in Ganna numbers and I think he may crack a 3 figure avg speed in imperial units pic.twitter.com/FItPmYknZM

— Alex Dowsett (@alexdowsett) October 1, 2020

1 October 2020, 08:23

Full gallery of THAT EF Pro Cycling kit that has Twitter divided

Well, now … that Rapha + Palace kit that EF Pro Cycling will be wearing at the Giro d’Italia over the next three weeks has certainly polarised opinion on cycling Twitter … just take a look at the replies to this tweet from team boss Jonathan Vaughters, then go through the gallery of pictures from the team presentation and let us know what YOU think. Winning or minging?

Welcome to the future bike nerds. #palace #quack #mightyducks #Rapha pic.twitter.com/Ruq56eDhIt

— Jonathan Vaughters (@Vaughters) October 1, 2020

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Trek-Segafredo and Quinn Simmons issue joint statement after THAT tweet

Statement from Trek-Segafredo and Quinn Simmons. pic.twitter.com/WvtK9htYWN

— Trek-Segafredo (@TrekSegafredo) October 1, 2020

1 October 2020, 08:23

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Bike boom continues at Halfords as retailer raises profit forecast

Bike boom continues at Halfords as retailer raises profit forecast

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1 October 2020, 08:23

Giro d'Italia to get off to a garish start

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  1. the little onion
    October 1, 2020 at 8:37 am
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    That video from South London,

    That video from South London, where an (untaxed, uninsured) driver swerves across lanes without looking whilst making an illegal turn… and then people blame the cyclist ‘100%’….

    If ever there was proof of the ignorance and prejudice of so many of our fellow road users, this, surely, is it.

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    • hawkinspeter
      October 1, 2020 at 8:46 am
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      the little onion wrote:

      That video from South London, where an (untaxed, uninsured) driver swerves across lanes without looking whilst making an illegal turn… and then people blame the cyclist ‘100%’….

      If ever there was proof of the ignorance and prejudice of so many of our fellow road users, this, surely, is it.

      — the little onion

      It shows how much people think that an indicator means “Get out of my way! I’m coming through” rather than “I want to turn when there’s some room and it’s safe”.

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      • brooksby
        October 1, 2020 at 10:19 am
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        hawkinspeter wrote:

        That video from South London, where an (untaxed, uninsured) driver swerves across lanes without looking whilst making an illegal turn… and then people blame the cyclist ‘100%’….

        If ever there was proof of the ignorance and prejudice of so many of our fellow road users, this, surely, is it.

        — hawkinspeter It shows how much people think that an indicator means “Get out of my way! I’m coming through” rather than “I want to turn when there’s some room and it’s safe”.— the little onion

        And explains why so many pedestrians get their backs up when a cyclist rings their bell – they think the cyclist is doing the same thing…

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      • iandusud
        October 1, 2020 at 3:35 pm
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        hawkinspeter wrote:

        That video from South London, where an (untaxed, uninsured) driver swerves across lanes without looking whilst making an illegal turn… and then people blame the cyclist ‘100%’….

        If ever there was proof of the ignorance and prejudice of so many of our fellow road users, this, surely, is it.

        — hawkinspeter It shows how much people think that an indicator means “Get out of my way! I’m coming through” rather than “I want to turn when there’s some room and it’s safe”.— the little onion

        It shows how much driving a Range Rover means  “Get out of my way! I’m coming through”.

        I was cycling to work this morning thinking to myself (quite rightly) that the vast majority of cars that overtake me do so carefully giving reasonable room even when there is oncoming traffic, when guess what vehicle close passes me with no oncoming traffic. Yes a Range Rover (with a personalised number plate of course).

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      October 1, 2020 at 8:49 am
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      Good avoiding reaction by the

      Good avoiding reaction by the cyclist, (although his rear wheel might be damaged as he ended up stood on the spokes).

       

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    • Shake
      October 1, 2020 at 9:15 am
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      Before I start, overall I

      Before I start, overall I would say that the car is at fault.

      My general rule would be that I wouldn’t undertake a car with an approaching side road, indicator or not. Perhaps the cyclist saw the no left turn and assumed that the driver wouldn’t go down there. 

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      • eburtthebike
        October 1, 2020 at 9:31 am
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        Shake wrote:

        Before I start, overall I would say that the car is at fault.

        — Shake

        No, no, no and no again.  The DRIVER is at fault.  Please stop excusing the driver by blaming the car. 

        https://road.cc/content/news/media-guidelines-launched-reporting-road-collisions-277575

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        • Shake
          October 1, 2020 at 9:59 am
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          Force of habit. 

          Force of habit. 

          Years of car vs bike language takes a while to break. I must try harder

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      • sapperadam
        October 1, 2020 at 9:35 am
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        Shake wrote:

        My general rule would be that I wouldn’t undertake a car with an approaching side road, indicator or not. Perhaps the cyclist saw the no left turn and assumed that the driver wouldn’t go down there. 

        — Shake

        Or as someone said earlier, maybe the indicator wasn’t working and the cyclist had no idea the driver was intending to turn…

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        • Shake
          October 1, 2020 at 10:04 am
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          Exactly, I was saying that

          Exactly, I was saying that the indicator plays no real part. If the cyclist did or didn’t see an indicator, they might have seen the no left turn and assumed the driver wasn’t going to turn left and thought it safe to go down on the inside, which it should have been.

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          • sapperadam
            October 1, 2020 at 2:19 pm
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            I would say the indicator

            I would say the indicator plays a big part though.  Without the No Left Turn sign , would you then slow down every time a car goes past you on the approach to a junction like that or would you usually assume the driver is not going to turn left unless they were indicating? 

        • TheBillder
          October 1, 2020 at 9:01 pm
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          Or the driver wasn’t keeping
          Or the driver wasn’t keeping the vehicle in roadworthy condition – let’s not blame the inanimate object.

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      • brooksby
        October 1, 2020 at 10:20 am
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        Shake wrote:

        Perhaps the cyclist saw the no left turn and assumed that the driver wouldn’t go down there. 

        — Shake

        Assuming that the driver would obey the clear signage?  Tut-tut!

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  2. OnYerBike
    October 1, 2020 at 8:44 am
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    Quote:

    If you’ve more vim, vigour and resilience than me, why not check out the replies to the tweet to get a feel for how people see these things.

    Actually the majority of replies make for refreshing reading. In addition to the fact that the driver was making an illegal left turn, and turned across another lane of moving traffic without adequately checking it was clear, people have pointed out that the vehicle had no tax or MOT, and also that the front indicator was flashing very fast which may well suggest the rear indicator was not operating (something which would have been picked up on the MOT if the driver had bothered to get one…)

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    • Awavey
      October 1, 2020 at 9:03 am
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      On the indicator flash, I
      On the indicator flash, I suspect its LED lighting,and the power frequency to illuminate the light for a pulse is just out of synch with the frame rate of the camera, as I’m always getting that kind of strobe rapid flash effect with all types of lights (indicators,headlights,rearlights) on newer cars

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      • OnYerBike
        October 1, 2020 at 9:12 am
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        Not impossible – that thought

        Not impossible – that thought did cross my mind but I don’t *think* it looks like that to me. I know this is hardly conclusive, but no such strobing is visible on any of the other lights (including the other lights on the range rover or the indicator lights of the the Toyota waiting to pull out), and the apparent frequency of the range rover’s indicator matches what I’ve observed previously from cars with one indicator not working.

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  3. AlsoSomniloquism
    October 1, 2020 at 8:52 am
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    Regarding the Bollards,

    Regarding the Bollards, looking at the one picture with damage, it is the drivers side wheel. Looks to me like they hit the central reservation. The roads looks nice and straight and plenty of room and stuff on the drivers side is alot easier to judge and avoid then the other side so just really really bad driving there myself. I’m glad they have taken themselves off the road and hopefully checked for driving under the influence of something. 

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    • Awavey
      October 1, 2020 at 9:19 am
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      It looks to me they probably
      It looks to me they probably clouted the bollards first,and then reacted by over correcting to steer right, and caught the kerb of the central refuge the wheel was then at an angle it took a sideways hit which broke the bottom suspension mount. I’ve had cars touch central refuges like that square on, whilst overtaking me on my bike and it hasnt ripped a wheel off like that yet.

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    • andystow
      October 1, 2020 at 6:32 pm
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      The bollards are doing the

      The bollards are doing the Lord’s Work.

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      • TheBillder
        October 1, 2020 at 8:58 pm
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        Excellent – as are lots of
        Excellent – as are lots of replies to that tweet.

        Comiston Road is one of those which many drivers can’t really manage. Two lanes in each direction but no central reservation, just islands. Speed limit is 30 but it’s the type of road that often used to be 40, and the hill is steep enough that many going down can’t keep legal. Speed camera halfway down jerks them out of auto pilot mode.

        I wouldn’t have ridden down there before the lane went in – there are nicer, smaller parallel roads very near by. And I’m not sure I’ll be putting much faith in the wands by the look of it…

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  4. Awavey
    October 1, 2020 at 9:10 am
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    The fault lies with the range
    The fault lies with the range rover both for an illegal left turn and for not checking the cycle lane was clear,no question on that…however whether I faced with the exact same situation would have ridden up the inside there is another matter entirely

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    • eburtthebike
      October 1, 2020 at 9:27 am
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      Awavey wrote:

      The fault lies with the range rover both for an illegal left turn and for not checking the cycle lane was clear…

      — Awavey

      No.  The fault lies with the driver.  Didn’t you get the memo about media reporting of crashes?

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      • Awavey
        October 1, 2020 at 11:38 am
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        I dont consider myself to be

        I dont consider myself to be the media 😉

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    • the little onion
      October 1, 2020 at 10:23 am
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      They didn’t ride up the

      They didn’t ride up the inside – they travelled on a separate lane (solid white line), and the vehicle on the outside lane stuck their brakes on and slowed down, and swung across without looking. 

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      • Awavey
        October 1, 2020 at 12:29 pm
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        well actually the whole infra

        well actually the whole infra there is a bit of a mix of everything, its a bollard protected lane, then it completely disappears, then its a solid white line painted lane again but only for a car length, as its a dotted line at the junction again as thats how vehicles are allowed to cross the cycle lane, its classic case of multiple schemes over time been setup but no overall plan to guide cyclists or even drivers properly or safely from one bit to the next, even the no left turn seems a bit tacked on.

        Im looking at that situation and thinking I dont care its a separate lane, I dont care drivers are supposed to look before turning across it, I dont even care there is this sign that says drivers cant turn left there, none of that matters as you cannot rely on any of that protecting you,the only thing I care about is not becoming another injury statistic.

        so there is no way Id be riding into that position that left me vulnerable to a vehicle, especially one the size of a Range Rover,potentially left hooking me,  and in city traffic you have to be hyper aware of all the small things that can go wrong,no indication from the car,driver doesnt look, turns left on a no left turn, to pick your way through safely enough.

        as I said theres no fault on the cyclist at all the blame is all on the driver, but I wouldnt have passed the Range Rover till I was sure what route they were taking, if they are locked in straight ahead, fine, pass by the junction, but if you dont know, dont ride with them next to you as you approach a junction, even one they technically cant turn into.

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        • AlsoSomniloquism
          October 1, 2020 at 1:06 pm
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          well actually the whole infra

          well actually the whole infra there is a bit of a mix of everything, its a bollard protected lane, then it completely disappears, then its a solid white line painted lane again but only for a car length, as its a dotted line at the junction again as thats how vehicles are allowed to cross the cycle lane, its classic case of multiple schemes over time been setup but no overall plan to guide cyclists or even drivers properly or safely from one bit to the next, even the no left turn seems a bit tacked on.

          At the risk of opening another can of worms which does not absolve the driver at all, I suspect all the wands, lines and extra markings, plus the no left turn are part of an LTN or active travel improvements along that route. As of May last year, the lane was literally the smear of blue in places without mandated or advisory border markings and no sign of the no left turn erm, sign.  

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  5. Secret_squirrel
    October 1, 2020 at 11:26 am
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    Good on Chris Froome for that

    Good on Chris Froome for that memorial pic.  I wonder if he went back up the hill to take it?  Nice touch however it was done.

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      October 1, 2020 at 12:00 pm
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      His 29th ride is not on

      His 29th ride is not on Strava (he did a ride up there on the 23rd though so the original pic might have been from that). As the memorial tweet is dated the next day he was probably driven up there I suspect. However he didn’t need to do anything so chapeau doing it for the mother however he got there.  

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      • Zebulebu
        October 1, 2020 at 1:55 pm
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        I knew and raced with Rick –
        I knew and raced with Rick – he was an absolute fixture of the NW racing scene and a legend of a lad. Chapeau to Froome for doing this, it’s a lovely gesture. I’m sure Jackie, Rick’s mum, is dead chuffed

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        • AlsoSomniloquism
          October 1, 2020 at 3:16 pm
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          She did reply and thank him

          She did reply and thank him

          https://twitter.com/JackieTaylor32/status/1311247269065363456

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  6. Jenova20
    October 1, 2020 at 1:07 pm
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    “which puts the driver

    “which puts the driver completely in the wrong”

     

    The driver was already completely in the wrong, but at least they’ve clarified and admitted fault. That goes some way towards a remedy for the situation.

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  7. Cupov
    October 1, 2020 at 1:57 pm
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    That road closed sign LOL..

    That road closed sign LOL…which semi-literate fool put that together.

    And road closed to pedestrians…how’s that work?

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    • OnTheRopes
      October 1, 2020 at 2:38 pm
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      Cupov wrote:

      And road closed to pedestrians…how’s that work?

      — Cupov

      I would have thought that was pretty clear, people do walk down roads and verge’s.

      Many times on roadworks you can cycle past or walk on a pavement or verge so cyclists and sometimes hikers are always tempted to give it a try, I have worked on such sections myself and the client was getting totally frustrated at turning them back, which meant a long ride back, so everyone was getting pissed off. I suggested adding  Cyclists and pedestrians and unsurprisingly the problem stopped.

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  8. Fursty Ferret
    October 1, 2020 at 2:34 pm
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    You can’t close a road to

    You can’t close a road to pedestrians in this way. Suggest sign is ignored. Push bike past roadworks. 

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    • mdavidford
      October 1, 2020 at 2:44 pm
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      Well, it’s possible that the

      Well, it’s possible that the road is literally impassable – like they’re digging a massive hole from hedge to hedge or something.

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        October 1, 2020 at 3:15 pm
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        They mentioned a failed

        They mentioned a failed culvert in one of the papers stories so that would be all across the road. And as it is the moors, I wouldn’t fancy trying to get around it. 

        I checked it up and they have been trying to improve all of that route due to large amounts of accidents all along it for the past couple of years. Each time they do a section they close it in this way due to the work, and everytime there is people moaning it doesn’t need to be made safe and leave it open. 

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        • brooksby
          October 1, 2020 at 3:47 pm
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          AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

          They mentioned a failed culvert in one of the papers stories so that would be all across the road. And as it is the moors, I wouldn’t fancy trying to get around it. 

          — AlsoSomniloquism

          “Don’t step off the path!”

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          • David9694
            October 1, 2020 at 5:00 pm
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            Is there a pub near here? 
             

            Is there a pub near here? 
             

        • Awavey
          October 1, 2020 at 7:31 pm
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          says road widening

          says road widening,resurfacing and installation of new kerbs on the roadworks website https://one.network/?118039954

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          • AlsoSomniloquism
            October 1, 2020 at 9:43 pm
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            One of the newspaper reports

            One of the newspaper reports stated it was taking longer then expected because of the culvert was found to be collapsed. However if you see that road and the work you have listed, I can see why the sign pretty much states the whole road is closed for any type of travel and not just for cars. I expect there is very little room to clamber by on the public sides. 

  9. roadrunner23
    October 1, 2020 at 3:55 pm
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    Just to try being a devils

    Just to try being a devils advocate for a moment. We have to accept that at this junction there is a lot for a driver to take in and do. Firstly they have to spot the no left turn sign (in this case small and easily missed. Secondly they have to ensure that the junction is clear of pedestrians. Thirdly they have to make sure that the cycle lane is clear for them to cross (on a road without a cycle lane you would move to the left hand lane which would stop any cars coming up on your inside). Yes the driver was in the wrong but the cyclist needs to accept that they are both on the same carriageway and and need to stay alert to cars signalling their intentions. In this case the driver was clearly indicating their intention to turn left while the guy on the bike was well behind the car. It would be foolhardy to pass on the inside when the driver was clearly indicating their intention. I suspect the police would be reluctant to proceed in this case other than the no left turn sign made the whole act illegal. Although a barrister may well argue that the sign was badly placed and too small.

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    • wtjs
      October 1, 2020 at 4:05 pm
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       Although a barrister may

       Although a barrister may well argue that the sign was badly placed and too small.

      OK- let them employ Shyster Lawyers Inc. then. We don’t need the police to do their job for them. I can’t see me having been caught out like this cyclist, but I could be wrong. The person wielding the killing machine has to accept increased responsibilities and liabilities, as opposed to the cyclist Injured Party being blamed by the usual suspects

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      October 1, 2020 at 4:09 pm
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      There is an argument that

      There is an argument that they might have been clearly signalling their intentions from the front of the car but the speed of the pulse shown on film could indicate a failed rear one. (althought that could also be the way newer LED lights show on frame rates). The brake lights would have come on(unless they are also faulty)  but then the cars in front were stopped so if the rear indicators were not working, then that could have just been down to the queue of traffic building up again. 

      Yes, if the left turn was legal the Police might have been reluctant to proceed on Careless driving. Even then though I would expect the Police to still do the driver for driving without Insurance, Tax and MOT if nothing else. 

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    • TheBillder
      October 1, 2020 at 4:37 pm
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      roadrunner23 wrote:

      We have to accept that at this junction there is a lot for a driver to take in and do.

      — roadrunner23

      Well in that case stop until you’ve checked it’s ok to do the manoeuvre. It’s quite simple. Drivers have some odd performance anxiety: “what if I held every up for a minute?” This needs to be removed while they learn. Just WAIT AND OBSERVE. Eventually it’ll be safe to do or you’ll see why you can’t do it.

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    • Rendel Harris
      October 1, 2020 at 5:08 pm
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      I have pointed out elsewhere

      I have pointed out elsewhere that as DVLA searches show that this particular vehicle has neither VED nor a current MOT, it wouldn’t be farfetched to assume at least the possibility that his tailights could have been malfunctioning.

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    • Captain Badger
      October 1, 2020 at 6:25 pm
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      roadrunner23 wrote:

      We have to accept that at this junction there is a lot for a driver to take in and do. 

      — roadrunner23

      First, the driver needs to accept this. It is really simple; slow down to a speed suitable to safely execute the manoeuvre. This includes all required checks and thought processes. Stop if necessary. Shoulder check. Proceed with caution. If there is too much going on to process, slow down further.

      It is not for the vulnerable to mitigate the crap driving of some road users. The thought seems to be that the vulnerable need to account for the errors (at best…) of the dangerous whilst being absolutely 100% perfect in this respect. The blame then shifts to the failure of mitigation of the victim, rather than where it actually lies – the negligence of the vehicle driver.

       

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  10. Rome73
    October 2, 2020 at 6:51 am
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    That South London Press

    That South London Press ‘story’ is so needless, provocative and obviously designed to incite negative comments and attitude. Why do it? If it was a pedestrian being side swiped would they publish the video accompanied by the same headline? Of course they would not. But it’s a person on a cycle so . . . . Yea, let’s shit stir. 

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    • mdavidford
      October 2, 2020 at 7:04 am
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      “Watch the moment a motorist

      “Watch the moment a motorist narrowly avoids a concrete block thrown from a motorway bridge. Who do you think was in the wrong?”

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Roval Terra CLX III wheelset
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Shimano brings “flagship innovation” and “thick” brake rotors to its XT mechanical drivetrain
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Seven magnificent off-road bikepacking adventures that could change your life
Seven magnificent off-road bikepacking adventures that could change your life
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Pirelli Cinturato Gravel M High Performance gravel tyres
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Tango and Cash: Can the all new Orange Phase e-MTB live up to its price tag?
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Shimano unveils updated Deore groupset promising better durability and shifting under load, plus refined braking power
Shimano unveils updated Deore groupset promising better durability and shifting under load, plus refined braking power
Shimano brings its Deore mechanical family to the modern age, promising a host of improvements and refined performance
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The new Orbea Wild e-MTB dumps Bosch motor and boards the Avinox hype train
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ADO Air 20 Ultra
ADO Air 20 Ultra
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I was hit by an illegal e-biker who ran a red light. Tougher regulation can’t come soon enough
I was hit by an illegal e-biker who ran a red light. Tougher regulation can’t come soon enough
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Free update for Yamaha e-bikes, Lime increases fleet for US footie fans, Voi weighs in on London parking debates + more
Free update for Yamaha e-bikes, Lime increases fleet for US footie fans, Voi weighs in on London parking debates + more
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Barcelona to ban private bike share schemes from 2027, as mayor slams e-bike parking “mess”
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Megamo launches dedicated e-road bike powered by super-powerful Avinox motor
Megamo launches dedicated e-road bike powered by super-powerful Avinox motor
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“Most cargo bikes are built to haul stuff. Levo 4 X is built to haul ass”: The Specialized Levo 4 X goes bikepacking
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E-bike operators including Lime and Forest slapped with £210,000 in fines for sloppy parking, plus Mercian is making an e-bike, Bosch launches certification system + more
E-bike operators including Lime and Forest slapped with £210,000 in fines for sloppy parking, plus Mercian is making an e-bike, Bosch launches certification system + more
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Latest Comments

Aluminium can 1 hour ago

Presumably there is some ideal city where everything is within cycling distance but there's also lots of space to store bikes. Hmm. I wonder if some of those car spots that occupy the same space as 10 bikes (or more) could be utilised?

in: 14,000 on cycle storage waiting list as bike theft rockets and cyclists complain: “If you can’t get a space, you’re not going to be inspired to buy a bike”
chrisonabike 4 hours ago

If you're cycling in the UK. But just be careful about picking up discarded perfume bottles, watch who you drink tea with, don't cycle near Russian warships etc.

in: “Bad policy as well as bad politics”: Wes Streeting slams “extraordinary” timing of £4.5bn cycling and walking investment after defence secretary’s resignation over funding
GravelIsNothingNew 5 hours ago

Vittoria Corsa NeXT are the answer for anyone who actually isn’t pro. Still better than Conti GP5000’s, more durable, better ride feel and better price. …the best way to not pay too much? Buy something else.

in: Vittoria Corsa Pro Tubeless Tyres
john1967 6 hours ago

I'm am more at threat from dangerous drivers than I am from russian snipers

in: “Bad policy as well as bad politics”: Wes Streeting slams “extraordinary” timing of £4.5bn cycling and walking investment after defence secretary’s resignation over funding
mdavidford 6 hours ago

But again, it's irrelevant to the argument.

in: Michael Gove vs the disgruntled camera cyclist: Sometimes optics matter more than being in the right
Blackthorne83 6 hours ago

The thing that makes cycling more dangerous (among others) is poor skill and situational awareness. Both of which will be exacerbated by this thing full of screens sensors and other distractions which will do nothing to help a novice ride better.

in: Could this be the safest road bike ever built? Canyon thinks so
chrisonabike 6 hours ago

Good to hear that people are keen and they won't be doing the Lambeth Walk if they can help it. Now, can we have a rule that new buildings (that the government wants more of built) have to include decent cycle storage space? Like in NL? (Of course not - that would be insanity as nobody cycles, and anyway Nige and Kemi and anyone else will be shouting "nanny state" and "government overreach". And frankly the planning process is a giant hot mess as it is and we're already worried about being slated for missing housing targets ...)

in: 14,000 on cycle storage waiting list as bike theft rockets and cyclists complain: “If you can’t get a space, you’re not going to be inspired to buy a bike”
Pub bike 8 hours ago

Those wheels are certainly a major advance in road safety for squirrels trying to cross the road.

in: Could this be the safest road bike ever built? Canyon thinks so
chrisonabike 8 hours ago

@momove maybe they mean "more pure cycling *marketing*"?

in: Could this be the safest road bike ever built? Canyon thinks so
Terry Hutt 8 hours ago

It needs to read license plates, look them up, and tell you the registered owner has 26 prior driving offences. Ideally it would remotely hack their car and turn the engine off. Driver: I only get 'undred yards down road and another one of those bloody smart bikes shuts me down. Took me two hours to get t' pub.

in: Could this be the safest road bike ever built? Canyon thinks so

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