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Deceuninck-QuickStep to train riders not to rub their genitals against waitresses
Earlier this week Belgian Deceuninck-QuickStep rider Iljo Keissewas was accused of rubbing his genitals on a waitress while she was having a photo taken with him and some team-mates.
He was thrown off the race and fined by a judge.
Team manager Patrick Lefevere was reportedly so incensed by the decision that he briefly threatened to withdraw the team from the race.
Several of the team’s riders then sat out Wednesday’s podium ceremony, citing ‘fatigue’.
Yesterday we reported that Keisse’s father said that the woman involved was partly to blame. Google Translate (perhaps unfairly) has one of his comments down as: “That woman is also very suggestive with her ass behind.”
Keisse, for what it’s worth, had already apologised.
None of this is a good look and Cycling News reports on “tensions” between the team and new title sponsor Deceuninck. Specialized has also said it is taking the matter “extremely seriously” and is “working with the team reinforce the expectations” it holds of riders.
All of which perhaps explains why the team has now issued a “sincere apology,” in which it promises to implement “specific conduct training protocols” to ensure “this kind of thing won’t happen again.”
“The Team would like to make a sincere apology for the events of the past few days, firstly to the woman involved in this regrettable incident, and additionally to all women, fans, and sponsors. We don’t condone this type of behaviour. Our team’s core values include mutual respect, and that was not upheld in this situation. Iljo also personally acknowledges his mistake and takes full responsibility for his actions.
“As a team, we are aware that one of our main roles is to educate the riders and make sure they demonstrate respect for everyone. The events of these past days are something which we can – and already have – learned from, and for that very reason we have decided to implement in the near future specific conduct training protocols for all riders and staff to ensure our values and make sure this kind of thing won’t happen again.
“Again, we are very sorry to everyone affected by this regrettable incident.”
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Scrapped HS2 cycleway would have provided five times the return on investment as the rail line
Last year the government published a 2016 study which looked at the possibility of building a national cycleway along the route of the HS2 railway.
The gist was that it was an extremely good idea that neither the Department for Transport (DfT) nor HS2 Ltd, the company building the high-speed line, were willing to fund.
“Sadly the HS2 cycleway train has left the platform,” observed Roger Geffen, Cycling UK’s policy director.
Our erstwhile colleague Laura Laker reports in the Guardian that a 50-page business case for the cycleway put the health, congestion and economic benefits at between £3 and £8 per £1 spent.
The return on investment of the HS2 rail line is £1.5-£1.7 per £1, according to the National Audit Office.
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Leave or Remain?
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Sôme interesting comments from Wright and Stewart about 'losing' thé team élément a bit with thé new format
And I don’t know when you wrote this but I think it was published 9 days after Onley was confirmed out of the Tour.
Paul Seixas’ team is Decathlon CMA CGM
The best thing about the TTT as Stage 1 is that it emphasises the fact that cycling grand tours incl the TDF are a team sport.
If you click through and read the story you'll see that the first motorist hit the cyclist, and the second, following, motorist then also hit them while they were lying in the road - both were convicted of causing the cyclist's death.
I may be reading far too much into it, but I felt as though Pogacar and UAE weren't actually that bothered about winning today. Not having yellow to defend and all the extra press etc to do this early in the race is an indisputable advantage; I just got the impression that they were out to lose no more than a handful of seconds but not to bury themselves for the win. With about 2.5kms to go I thought that if Pogacar really wanted it he would have gone from there, but he stayed with Del Toro for nearly another kilometre even though the body language was saying that no way was Del Toro in as good shape as Pogacar. Even after the finish he didn't seem as wiped out as Ganna (whom I don't think I've ever seen quite so shattered) or Jonas. As I say, might be reading too much into it but I would not be surprised if UAE had played a very clever hand not to lose any meaningful time but to avoid the burden of yellow from the get go.
@tomlew It's not his youth so much as his inexperience. He's never ridden a race longer than eight days before. Pogacar won his first Tour, it's true, but he'd already finished a Vuelta. There's simply to much for him to learn and become accustomed to in my opinion for him to have a realistic chance of victory, particularly as he's up against probably the greatest of all time and a double Tour winner, both of whom seem to be at the peak of their powers. It's not entirely beyond the bounds of possibility but he'd need a hatful of luck and something fairly catastrophic to happen to both of those guys before he'd realistically be in with a shout. Don't forget nobody has won their first Grand Tour since Hinault in 1978, forty-eight years is a hell of a lot of precedent.
There is no rational reason for a rider this young not to dominate the race, other than some of us believing this is "not right" based purely on opinion. Younger athletes recover much, much faster. They adapt more easily. They are typically more eager to take risks, which is... well, risky, but could pay off big time if the stars align. Burnout? Yes, that is a risk. But it's not a given. See how long Leo Messi has been absolutely top-notch. The risks are high, but the potential is even more so. And even if Seixas does burn out early, it may just be his choice despite the awareness of the risk. If I were a prodigy cyclist youngster with a realistic shot at winning, I might take it even if I knew it might be the end of my career. After all, it's winning the TdF we're talking about!
@Rendel Harris Let's turn this around. One can hack their electronic shifting and nobody will believe them!
I’m confused: “ A driver who took a selfie, watched videos and sent messages at the wheel before killing a cyclist was jailed for five years, whilst a hit-and-run motorist who subsequently struck the same rider….” How does that work? Resurrection? Did the poor unfortunate cyclist recover from his/her case of death, only to be hit by a motorist again? Please, I don’t mean to make light of either case, merely to point out the poor/lazy journalism….
19 thoughts on “Live blog: The Friday Leave/Remain poll, Scrapped HS2 cycleway would have provided five times the return on investment as the rail line; Deceuninck-QuickStep genitals training + more”
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IT’S POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD!
What is the world coming to when you can’t even rub your genitals against a waitress anymore, because of the PC-Thought-Police, bleedin’ ‘ealth ‘n’ safety, the EU, and Gary Lineker (probably).
“Deceuninck-QuickStep to
“Deceuninck-QuickStep to train riders not to rub their genitals against waitresses”
Headline of the year.
I blame his helmet.
I blame his helmet.
The HS2 figures for return on
The HS2 figures for return on investment, of 1:1.5, only stand up if you make some very questionable assumptions about the benefits e.g. that time on a train is non-productive, which is clearly not true. All the independent analyses of HS2 say it is not an economic proposition.
On the contrary, the benefits of providing for cyclists are solid and unquestionable, and even with the skewed system, are vastly better value than major road and rail schemes.
So which ones get funded?
Answers on a postcard to your local MP.
burtthebike wrote:
The ones that allow wealthy people who bought a slightly cheaper house out in the country so they could afford to buy another house somewhere sunny to commute to their Very Important office job in a hedge fund or bank in the City.
(Sorry, I might be generalising a bit there and being unfair to someone in pinstripes
).
brooksby wrote:
Yes, because everyone who uses the WCML is wealthy, has a hedge fune, or works in the city, don’t they………….
Bungle73 wrote:
We’re talking about hs2, though. Pay way more money to get to London five minutes faster… I don’t know about the west coast main line, but hs2 damn well *is* aimed at wealthy businesspersons.
brooksby wrote:
The purpose of HS2 is to releive pressure from the WCML, which has severe capcity problems. Like most people, you crictise the building of HS2 without even knowimg why it is being built.
Bungle73 wrote:
The only valid reason I’ve heard for building HS2 is to provide the tories donors with lots of profit. If it was a decision based on value for money, it wouldn’t be happening, but a proper national, regional and local cycle network would. The decision to build it was clearly not based on economics, or wider benefits.
burtthebike wrote:
You have a very short memory. HS2 was the brainchild of the last Labour government. The Tories mistake was not scrapping it.
fizrar6 wrote:
My memory is fine, and the last labour government wasn’t labour; it was tory with a pink rinse.
Bungle73 wrote:
That would be “relieve pressure” by moving the people in the first class carriages onto a dedicated super speed permanently first class rail line? How does that disprove my point??
burtthebike wrote:
the problem is building a cycling scheme would not occupy the many thousands of construction workers/builders/architects etc for the best part of a decade at a time, these big infrastructure projects like HS2 or CrossRail, are as much about providing reasonably medium term employment prospects for lots and lots of people, and all the subsidiary support business around it. Thats where the real ROI comes from in terms of the governments spend on them, these people get paid a wage they can live on, they pay tax, they spend money back in the economy, it all creates economic growth.
That these things when constructed eventually are ultimately often marginal in terms of actual cost benefit,well youll have had a decade of near guaranteed growth in the construction industry by then, who will have then moved on to the next big government funded mega building project and the whole merry go round starts again.
Awavey wrote:
You are undoubtedly right, but a national cycle network, with regional and local segments, would provide more employment for longer and be vastly more beneficial in all areas, including financial.
So why isn’t that funded? I think the answer is that HS2 and other mega-projects are ego schemes for the politicians, who love to be able to point at something and claim the credit e.g. channel tunnel. Transport is one of the few areas where politicians can have a fairly direct effect, unlike most other areas of public policy. Although cycling is a vote winner according to all the polls, it’s still a bit too tree-hugging leftie for most politicians, and rail and road have powerful and vocal supporters.
Seems to me that Keisse’s
Seems to me that Keisse’s genitals have been blown way out of proportion.
Hmmm…. maybe I could have phrased that better.
It’s 2019. It’s quite simple
It’s 2019. It’s quite simple. Don’t rub your genitals, or even pretend to, against anyone who hasn’t specifically given their consent for you to do so.
On the other hand, I’m in no way denying the stupidity of the act by saying that it was clearly intended as a bit of a joke that has gone down like a lead balloon. John Cleese once said that an Englishman would rather be told that he is a bad lover than that he has so sense of humour; well, about a hundred thousand people have told Keisse that his attempt at humour sucks, so surely that should be punishment enough?
And never mind that in a sport that still has podium girls at almost all races, and continues to belittle and underfund the women’s side of the sport, there are an awful lot of people sat in glass houses throwing stones.
Leave/Remain; isn’t there a
Leave/Remain; isn’t there a third way? Just coast by seeing if they look productively engaged in a repair, and if not call out ‘Y’alright?’
Organon wrote:
Seems sensible, so I doubt parliament will vote for it…
Organon wrote:
I normally try to Leave, but just end up cutting my own throat and bleeding to death.