road.cc live blog: BBC guest likens cyclists to Nazis, big Black Friday deals and more
It’s ages since someone in the media compared cyclists to Nazis. No, hang on…
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Gm_Crop 4 hours ago
I'll counter that by saying the Bryton 750se I have drives me nuts at times. Inconsistantly picks up on routes created on Komoot and the app re-syncs every few seconds when trying to set up the device and sends me back to the home screen. The most infuriating one is that I turned live track on. Once. It now won't turn off and repeatedly flags up the live track is starting, and then disconnecting every few seconds whilst riding. I haven't timed it but it wouldn't suprise me if 10-20% of the time the the screen is covered with an error message. That's been about 6 weeks now. Other than that it's great :/
IanGlasgow 4 hours ago
RE: Police launch road safety operation... by clamping down on cyclists using footbridge Meanwhile in Glasgow, Police Scotland are riding their motorbikes over the pedestrian and cyclists only bridge. https://x.com/FietserGlasgow/status/2065106152917012523?s=20
Rendel Harris 5 hours ago
@Paul J Van Schip certainly seems a bit of a dick, but he's a European and multiple World Champion on the track, pretty sure you don't get there without having some talent in your legs.
Bill H 5 hours ago
Poor Vincent cannot get over the simple fact that given the choice people prefer dedicated cycling spaces, rather than pretending to be cars like vehicular cyclists.
pbunyon 6 hours ago
What is the point of the fancy air sensor if it can't account for changing weather conditions?? If all you care about is a delayed approximation of aerodynamic watts in steady conditions, you don't need any special sensors for that. Just your speed on a decently flat course is enough to approximate rolling resistance and drivetrain losses. And the rest must be aero. If you assume a less aero body position at the same watts, your speed will drop while rolling resistance also drops, which means approximated aero watts goes up. And that's enough to demonstrate what you've shown in your testing protocol ("I sat upright and the number went up a little while later").
chrisonabike 6 hours ago
Your correction is accurate - it's almost always been "the (lack of) thought that (doesn't) count". "Massive" - less than a billion a year spent on active travel (trying to catch up / building a network across the entire country) Not massive - 6 billion every year (2026-2030) spent on road *maintenance* of existing "already built, goes everywhere, very convenient" road network for inactive travel Ultimately the reason "cycle infra" is *needed* is those unbelievably colossal amounts spent every year (and for more than a century now) on making mass motoring not just viable but apparently the "best choice" for most journeys. As the Dutch and others have shown, the majority of people *are* prepared to cycle and even mix with very light, slow local motor traffic *if* cycling is also made safe and convenient for the whole of their journey (including secure parking at both ends). (The history of the financial drivers of the current situation are a complex topic but note that while people complain about "crumbling roads" and underfunded motor infra - with some reason - by us continuing the fuel duty escalator freeze (for example) we're actually helping motorists pay *even less* for that activity / subsidising more of the cost of driving than ever.)
belugabob 6 hours ago
yes, but people will still object - which was my point.
Astralstroll 8 hours ago
So ' Priority of Road Users' and 1.5 metre clearance at 30mph has been been reduced to 'sharing'? NCN route 2 here in South Hams is an absolute scream with white vans, tractors and total idiots who refuse,or are totally incapable,to reverse on high Devon banked lanes ...means you have to get off and pedal back to a passing place....could be at that all day...so I don't bother...
Mr Anderson 10 hours ago
@MaxiMinimalist Agreed. The big problem I see now is today's parents grew up being driven to their schools, and therefore, see private motor vehicles as the only viable form of transport. The vast majority of UK infant and primary schools have a catchment area that is within easy walking distance from home to school. Yet, the traffic caused by pupils being driven to/from school is astonishing. Banishing the "School Run" should be a priority for all schools.
MaxiMinimalist 10 hours ago
When I was a kid (that was during the previous millenium when phones were connected to a plug in the wall), I rode my bicycle to school, music academy, sport grounds, parties even during the winter. The government didn't have to spend, correct that, didn't have to think of spending massive amounts of money to build cycling specific infrastructures. Over the past 3 or 4 decades, cars have grown bigger, taller, safer (for their drivers) and faster. Meanwhile, motorists have become abusive, aggressive, hypersensitive to people moving on two wheels, aka cyclists. Spending billions upon billions on new infrastructure won't address the crux of the matter. Sadly.
27 thoughts on “road.cc live blog: BBC guest likens cyclists to Nazis, big Black Friday deals and more”
Given the evils that the
Given the evils that the Nazis actually did in WWII, it’s an insult to the victims that this troll is making such a vapid connection. He should be ashamed. But he probably doesn’t have sufficient intelligence to understand why.
George loves to cause a fuss.
George loves to cause a fuss. If it’s not commenting on a rape victim: “Is there no blame now to the person who puts themselves in danger?” it’s Nazism and cyclists. Fully discredited yet still given airtime
I try to use this word
I try to use this word sparingly, but what a fucktard.
MonkeyPuzzle wrote:
I was thinking more…
CygnusX1 wrote:
Kudos!!
Distasteful and adds more
Distasteful and adds more insult to injury after yesterday’s incident with a cyclist here in NI.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-42008898
aries2580 wrote:
Truly shocking, I hope the young man is recovering.
Nolan Live is particularly
Nolan Live is particularly spiteful show. They specialize in bringing experts in to the panel & then ignoring them to give the crazies a run-out. Cannon fodder to make sure that his early morning radio show here in Norn Iron (The biggest show in the country as he likes to remind you every 9 minutes) gets lots of traffic with people ranting about what they saw the night before. Instant switch-off material. His bias makes me sick.
Time to make a complaint to
Time to make a complaint to the BBC I think.
Can’t have dickheads like this being paid out of the license fee.
Comparing cyclists to Nazis
Comparing cyclists to Nazis is somewhat ironic. Hitler hated cyclists with a vengeance and was very much a supporter of cars instead (especially VolksWagen). You can quite easily draw the parallels between Nazi philosophy and the “might is right” philosophy out on the roads.
Is that supposed to be a nazi
Is that supposed to be a nazi salute in the photo?
Just submitted a complaint to
Just submitted a complaint to the BBC about it. Absolutely disgusting that they broadcast that kind of hate speech.
hawkinspeter wrote:
I’m thinking of making a complaint to the police, it is indeed a hate crime and one that was allowed to be aired on a public funded channel, absolutely disgraceful!
BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
Nice idea, I’ve just filled in a hate-speech crime report.
Why was George given airtime,
Why was George given airtime, and why is he not being arrested for hatecrime?
What a horrible scumbag. He’s
What a horrible scumbag. He’s the type of person you’ll never have a reasoned argument with, it’s his way or the highway.
I always have to think when I
I always have to think when I see/hear people make comments similar to what that old grumpy looking bloke said.
Replace the word cyclist with another minority group (homosexuals, muslims, jews, etc.etc.), if it makes you sound like a right-wing psychopath – probably best not to say it.
It just seems that a lot of the general public deem it acceptable to voice what is essentially hate speech.
The silly old fool (who is I
The silly old fool (who is I suspect younger than me!) Is the very image of the old buffers that hoot at me as they pass after deeming that my failure to ride through the pot holes at the side of road, has impeeded their progress by a few seconds! A blow hard with too little brain and far too much access to the mass media is best ignored.
Getting quite militant here
Getting quite militant here of late!
@ BTBS – you posted an image of a letter from one of the schools implementing the licence plate policy in the comments Are you Road.cc’s source of the story and/or a parent/carer of one of the pupils ?
If so, Sam Jones (Campaigns & Communicaions Coordinator) at Cycling UK would like to hear from you… campaigns [at] cyclinguk [dot] org
CygnusX1 wrote:
Sadly I’m not otherwise I’d be all over it like a rash, it took only a couple of minutes dectective work to find the newsletter in the public domain and that Mr ‘do as i say otherwise you will be punished’ had taken up the headmaster’s position at beacon school from the ‘parent’ Glyn school (of which they are part of group of schools funded together) which had previously enforced the number plate/helmet rules (from at least April) where he was deputy head.
The link between the two schools and the sudden rules change whilst he has come into power is there to see.
You represent the Islamic
You represent the Islamic community, who break every known law of the land, for whom women mean nothing, for whom personal freedom means nothing, for whom pubs mean nothing, for whom religious freedom means nothing. There is an entitlement among the fanatics – and they are, they are fanatics.
OR
You represent the cycling community, who break every known law of the road, for whom red lights mean nothing, for whom pedestrian crossings mean nothing, for whom one-way streets mean nothing, for whom pedestrian ways mean nothing. There is an entitlement among the fanatics – and they are, they are fanatics.
Try posting the first quote on a BBC comments page and if it doesn’t get moderated into outer space I would be amazed AND infuriated. But what’s the difference between quote one and quote two?
If you haven’t already, you
If you haven’t already, you may like to read Peter Walker’s piece in the Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2017/nov/17/why-are-cyclists-the-one-minority-group-the-bbc-feels-its-ok-to-demonise
ricardito wrote:
exactly the same comments, on both sides, as you’d get in a DM comments section. Only difference being that the Guardian readers all have a thesaurus, and know how to use it.
Well, they knew what Hook was
Well, they knew what Hook was like before they invited him, so some clown in the Nolan show team really neefs the kicking. George’s brain is probably too mashed to notice any more.
oldstrath wrote:
This.
And take note that the Nolan Show was actively engaging in promoting hatred against cyslists: Hook’s own statement is that he went there under the impression he was to be given airtime as part of an “anti-cycling” viewpoint. What sort of cynical, lazy stupid fucks are the showrunner, host, producer and commissioning editor?
Haters hate; if they aren’t
Haters hate; if they aren’t allowed by law to hate because of sex, religion or skin colour, they’ll just have to hate those it’s legal to hate; cyclists.
He’s just a sad old man who only knows how to hate.
I personally met Mr Hook
I personally met Mr Hook recently, sat him down and had a friendly chat.
It was friendly until I told him I was an avid cyclist and asked if he might tone down his comments as a media voice that had the effect of making it more dangerous for me to ride my bike.
He went a little red in the face but I persevered and invited him to come cycling with me and my fellow club mates so he could get a new perspective and maybe see my point of view. He took my phone number and said he would call to arrange.
I’m still waiting Mr Hook, when you have the guts, you have my number.