[Gkam84]

I saw this advertised on the
I saw this advertised on the TV lastnight and thought…..yeah, why not cash in some more on it. I’m waiting for Panorama “doping in cycling” then on ITV a tonight special of the same title.

Followed by C4 doing an undercover documentary following DR’s who help dopers.

Its just a shame the news of the world got caught phone hacking, because I’m sure they would have found evidence on phone’s and emails 👿

[Gkam84]

Finally, a sensible article
Finally, a sensible article about it, top work Road.cc and Mr MacMichael 😉

[Gkam84]

If you are that worried about
If you are that worried about being caught as a potential doper, route your IP through a few proxies in different countries to check out the sites. Just don’t buy and have it delivered to your own address 👿

[Gkam84]

Its not a trick or anything
Its not a trick or anything and it is used by some top athletes because its a natural EPO stimulator

*EPO-BoostTM does not contain Epogen®, Erythropoietin, EPO or any banned substances by WADA 2012 list

[Gkam84]

I think Dave said above
I think Dave said above somewhere. The races will only be open one at a time and only a bit before the races, so that startlists and things can be verified, so you don’t have to keep going and changing your team 😉

[Gkam84]

I didn’t mean to sound like I
I didn’t mean to sound like I was having a dig at here, if thats what you thought Tony?

All I meant was, It was a couple of questions in a very brief conversation, yet its a full blown news story now 👿

[Gkam84]

Dave Atkinson wrote:didn’t

Dave Atkinson wrote:

didn’t work in Homeland :B

Brilliant reply, I was just about to post the same thing.

People have ways of getting round Lie Detectors aswell as doping control.

Here’s the 1.30 interview with his lawyer

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/19941445

Yet BBC, have managed to make a whole article out of it 😕

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/19941030

[Gkam84]

Yeah, Stephen Roche was
Yeah, Stephen Roche was implicated

http://www.dopeology.org/incidents/Dblab-Lista-Nera/

http://www.dopeology.org/incidents/Ferrara-moral-judgment-1/

[Gkam84]

cgipryan wrote:
I don’t think

cgipryan wrote:

I don’t think this is all you’re doing, because you are also anticipating how the race is going to go… especially when you say, I quote, “3) It’ll mean that rider values will be weighted towards the riders that will do well on certain types of terrain; if a race is all flat stages then sprinters will be more expensive, and so on”.
This is where you’re practically gonna organize the riders (weighting in their current form and abilities on the specific terrain) according to price, and we’re gonna be left pretty much with randomly picking a set of 9 from the pre-organized (according to winning chances) rider list. It sounds to me like you’re willing to organize the rider list for a race like the betting odds lists before a race. And that already indicates the riders who have the largest chances of winning and also forces the participants in the game to take chances (lucky ones, basically) if they want to win much more than now, I think…

So you think that by organising the riders values by how well they did LAST season and depending on the type of race, Small tour, Classic, Grand tour. Then Dave and the people behind the game are some how indicating who has a chance of winning the race??

You know when riders line up, they all want to win and there are no guaranteed winners in cycling. So by setting the values depending on their performance from the year previous means nothing. Just look at Gilbert this season. He couldn’t do what he did in 2011 😉

[Gkam84]

I like the Roche has said
I like the Roche has said this, but then he’s joining SB-TB, so teaming up with – Alberto Contador, Volodymir Gustov, Benjamín Noval, Sergio Paulinho and of course Bjarne Riis 👿

[Gkam84]

If all you are worried about
If all you are worried about it your heart rate, then it doesn’t matter.

But for position, cadence, muscle groups….etc, Then you can’t beat using your own bike on a trainer

[Gkam84]

I was trying to keep it
I was trying to keep it simple, because to work out multiple combinations would take me months, working out who you can and cannot afford in your team and then only have two from each team…….

You can pick 9 riders from 198, so VERY basic calculations without going into the 2 from each team, transfer budgets and everything like that.

Before you break it down, the chances of picking a straight out winner would be 1 in 22

If you added everything else in, The chances would go up, because you’d limit your choices, giving yourself less of a chance to pick the winner. It could be up in the 1000’s.

Without budget for the Olympics lets say, where you could pick ANYONE, lets say there were 198 riders. That makes I THINK, with my calculations, 1541984268762850 different combinations of 9 😕

[Gkam84]

It would be 1/198 if you
It would be 1/198 if you could only pick one rider, But you get to pick 9, So its got to be divided by 9 😉

[Gkam84]

enrique wrote:Gkam84

enrique wrote:

Gkam84 wrote:

Chances of picking the winner

1 in 22

How do you get to this number?…

Simple maths, you have to pick 9 riders, so 198/9 = 22

Thats without having the 4/5 split

[Gkam84]

I think its a combination of
I think its a combination of the above factors you list and the influx of foreign drivers who can also drive in the UK under the EU statute, So someone can pass a not so stringent test in their home country and come here and drive until its not valid anymore.

This is an example of drivers from Poland

A driving licence issued in Poland is valid for that class of vehicle in the UK. You do not have to apply for a British licence.

Heavy Goods Vehicle (HGV) law is the same in the UK as in Poland.
If the 5-year licence expires, you are required to reapply in the UK or in Poland.

At the moment, I cannot afford to get my driving test past after being banned 8 years ago. The next step after getting it back would be my LGV and my PCV. But ultimately, at the moment, its just to expensive an outlay for an individual, unless you can find a company to pay it then employ you.

Then there is the cost of insurance for younger drivers. Its ridiculous for big vehicles, even through a company. That puts companies off taking on younger drivers.

So older drivers staying on longer, because they need the money, like the job or the company doesn’t have anyone else.

Foreign drivers and the lack of younger drivers coming through all make for the situation where 75 year olds are getting behind death machines. Normally 60-65 companies retire you from driving because of the risk….

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