The Reform Party and the UK’s lurch towards fascism

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    David9694

    I posted an earlier version of this a while back – inspired to do update following THAT discussion about all things ULEZ. 

    The “manifesto”, in terms of transport, only mentions stopping HS2, but there’s plenty on the usual right-wing obsessions: Brexit, immigration, veterans and climate change.  I had another look because I worry about the ongoing decline of the two main political parties. 

    If the Cons stay wedded to Brexit, then we will go into the next GE with all the widespread impoverishment Brexit has ushered in – not helped by Covid, Putin, etc. People generally vote according to their pockets.  I don’t get Labour’s current position on Europe either, but let’s see how that evolves, and even the Cons may also evolve, or even pivot, but time is already running out for them.

    Several roads now lead to the horrors of a further lurch to the right in this country.  Let’s hope Labour get the GE landslide the polls are predicting – but we’re still at least a year out from the real campaigning beginning. 

    A cycling angle? With the Reform Party and its ilk, Facebook Steve and Nextdoor Dave attain real political influence. It’s not spelt out in the manifesto, but you can see where this is probably heading and what it is likely to mean for cycling.  You can bet that this lot are very much “on the side of hard working drivers” etc. 

    As you all know, Dave’s going to “sort the traffic” and no doubt show them lazy planners how it’s done: Steve thinks the Council are corrupt, the police blinkered and is, if he can fit it in to his busy schedule he’s going to “teach them Lycra’s a thing or two.” It won’t concern him that his Mondeo is 3 months out of MoT or that Mrs Steve sometimes drives the kids in it uninsured. 

    As vulnerable road users, vulnerable people, we rely a great deal on the rule of law for protection. The rule of law means that we understand what the laws are, they are in general fair, and how they are applied and to whom is even-handed and consistent. 

    The fascist position is broadly the opposite – it’s all off-the-cuff to support today’s particular agenda – that’s why the Iain Duncan-Smith “happy to see ULEZ infra vandalised” comment is, as an example, so very worrying.  In the Conservatives, here is a party happy to send signals to enable the mob to attack RNLI stations, beat up immigrants, shout at teachers, doctors etc. 

    This right-wing stuff works by allowing/enabling significant privileged groups to to think of themselves as the downtrodden underdog and here is a way to fight back.  The pro Brexit campaign played on people’s ignorance, fears and prejudices exactly as this does. 

    It’s all about freedom, innit, less regulation, less tax burden, and damn the climate.  There’s more polar bears now, so it’s fine.  Let’s have open-cast coal mining, lithium mining and fracking. The section on climate change stumbles around like a Friday night drunk, trying to explain he wasn’t being racist to the barman – a denier position emerges, unsurprisingly.

    In places, the mask really slips: “We must keep divisive woke ideologies such as Critical Race Theory (CRT) and gender ideology out of the classroom.” – to be honest, I don’t even know what those two are.

    The standard enemies are put up – the civil service, the BBC.  Amid all the thrust and parry, there’s nothing  about making a better, more inclusive and cohesive world to live in; arts, sports and culture don’t feature in this barstool view of the world: a dullard’s grim vision.

    Don’t be a member of the wrong sort of minority would be my advice, should any of this come to pass. 
     

    https://www.reformparty.uk/reformisessential

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    Hirsute

    It would be a completely

    It would be a completely illegal change that would see a team sent in from Whitehall (MHCLG) to run the council.

    The Local Government Pension Scheme Regulations 2013 for one

    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2013/2356/contents

    There can be local policies around small things such as retiring between 55-60 (who picks up the tab for the pension strain) or flexible retirement 60-65, but I’d expect the benefits around those to have been jetisoned a number of years back.

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    brooksby
    Hirsute wrote:
    They think they can ignore statutory based pension schemes.

    https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:5mqpgxjffcckasqv7h6g7itu/bafkreife5cn4trucqnxmj65zomya3xjeosvt36nzw5mtaytmsnn7cnuvrq@jpeg

    What next – refusing to pay employers ni ?

    Wouldn’t that count as a change to the employees contract (or even theft)? “Doing a Robert Maxwell”, IIRC…

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    biking59boomer

    The local government pension

    The local government pension scheme is a national scheme, so they won’t be able to do it just in the councils they control.  They’re a bunch of amateurs who’ll very soon find themselves in trouble for mismanagement.

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    Hirsute

    They think they can ignore

    They think they can ignore statutory based pension schemes.

    https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:5mqpgxjffcckasqv7h6g7itu/bafkreife5cn4trucqnxmj65zomya3xjeosvt36nzw5mtaytmsnn7cnuvrq@jpeg

    What next – refusing to pay employers ni ?

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    Tom_77
    David9694 wrote:
    Interesting commentary by Nick Tyrone today

    I don’t understand what the Labour Party is doing. I don’t think many non-partisan people do either

    Fixing the rivers of shit (literal and metaphorical) left behind by the previous government. I would have liked to have seen more progress on this after almost a year in power, but I understand that these things take time. I expect Labour will be in trouble if they haven’t started to turn things around by the next General Election.

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    brooksby
    chrisonabike wrote:
    Just asking questions!

    Those self-styled ‘auditors’ are just weird.  IMO.

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    Hirsute

    Given the Kent article says
    Given the Kent article says
    scrutinises local government spending using artificial intelligence, data analysis tools and forensic auditing techniques to recommend solutions.
    Then the data will sit on servers outside of the council.

    I can’t see under gdpr how you’d give access to unknowns who are non statutory. Councils can only do things they have the powers for, not any old thing they fancy. I can see a legal challenge to this from various parties including the public whose data it is in some cases.

    There’s already a nation fraud initiative that collects data sets from councils to cross check within a council and across councils. Then they report back on potential fraud.
    Just proves reform have no idea of what goes on already in councils.

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    chrisonabike

    David9694 wrote:

    David9694 wrote:
    Farage has a point when he asks “where has the money gone?” 

    Well, given he presumably believes a certain slogan on the side of a bus it’s only logical he expects there to be a Brexit windfall.  If not, it can only be that the vindictive EU is hobbling us and our own bureaucrats (probably remoaners – but “the blob”) are wasting somehow it to spite us.

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    David9694

    Farage has a point when he

    Farage has a point when he asks “where has the money gone?”  The problem is that whole flipping internet knows the answer. 

    “Local authority ‘spending power’ – the amount of money authorities have to spend from government grants, council tax and business rates – fell by 17.5% between 2009/10 and 2019/20, before partially recovering. However, in 2021/22 it was still 10.2% below 2009/10 levels.”

    https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainer/local-government-funding-england

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    chrisonabike

    Just asking questions!

    Just asking questions!

    I wonder how long Reform can keep up the “we’re just other members of the public who’ve kicked down the palace doors and are trying to find out what abuses the ruler carried out”?

    A trend I don’t really understand (and am not moved to find out) but wonder if related – the self appointed “citizen investigators / auditors”?  These apparently think that a cameraphone is somewhere between a deputy’s badge and an access-all-areas pass and that because “inscruitable authorities” and their own suspicions they are empowered to turn up and grill people on camera while they’re doing their jobs.  (I can think of few things I’d enjoy less personally).

    See “I barged into hospital during Covid because I thought the wards would be empty because it was all a lie” and “I went to find (insert missing person here) because it’s more fun than waiting for the police to do it I thought there was a cover-up”.

    It’s tricky because … as much as we’ve ever done we need people who don’t just accept the press releases, who do ask awkward questions and even on occasion pry places they are not supposed to.  (And some of those aren’t terribly nice either). However I think that’s probably all covered in journalism classes?

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    Hirsute

    That’s a big risk to allow
    That’s a big risk to allow unknowns to have sensitive data. I wonder if there are any powers that allow such a directive.
    There’s also the issue of how this team can be held legally accountable for getting access to sensitive data and what they do with it – gdpr and all.

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    David9694

    Reform UK to send first Elon

    Reform UK to send first Elon Musk-style ‘Doge’ team to look at Kent County Council spending

    So it’s a “letter to the Council” (no mass email to staff like in US govt depts) from the Council leader and in this context, two nobodys, saying they are going to ask for a bunch of financial information (including “whistleblowing reports relevant to financial matters” – hell, you wouldn’t want to know if someone was being bullied, would you?) all capped-off with a threat to pass a motion compelling this if resisted. 
     

    We request that all relevant council officers provide the Doge team with full and prompt access to: Council-held documents, reports and records (electronic and paper), relevant finance, procurement, audit and contract data, meeting minutes and correspondence concerning major procurements, any internal investigations or whistleblowing reports relevant to financial matters, any additional documents that might be of assistance.”

    It added: “Should you resist this request, we are ready to pass a council motion to compel the same and will consider any obstruction of our councillors’ duties to be gross misconduct. We trust this will not be required.”

    It is signed by council leader Linden Kemkaran, party chairman Zia Yusuf and party leader Nigel Farage.

    https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/reform-uk-to-send-first-doge-team-to-look-at-kent-county-c-325141/

    Gotta love Zia’s  slogan – you couldn’t make it up!

    Is this a pilot exercise, or are similar letters going to drop at the other Reform controlled councils? 

    First, they came for the KCC officers

    But I didn’t mind 

    Because Dave down the pub

    Says they’re a bunch of overpaid *******

     

    Watch this space! 

    https://cdn.road.cc/wp-content/uploads/roadcc/IMG_6545.jpeg

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    David9694

    Interesting commentary by

    Interesting commentary by Nick Tyrone today

    I don’t understand what the Labour Party is doing. I don’t think many non-partisan people do either

    https://nicktyrone.substack.com/p/i-dont-understand-what-the-labour

    EDIT : To respond to Tyrone’s headline question, I think it’s something like “trying to navigate government with a very hostile media and with an increasingly mis-trustful populace”. 

    I had one reservation about this pitch : the stuff about about folk all voting Farage because Brexit is so marvellous / all the main parties agree thereon – Brexit killed the Tories; they needlessly ran towards it 10-12 years ago and nationally at least the party continues to be gripped by the ensuing death-spiral. I guess choosing, and then trying to defend Boris Johnston for months in 2020/21 didn’t help matters. 

    Labour have fared little better at choosing leaders – Ed Miliband and Jeremy Corbyn – both mismanaged the opposition to Leave. The party’s failure in 2010 to choose a good successor to Blair/Brown (probably David Miliband) will I think come be seen by historians as a pivotal moment for them too. 

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/sep/25/ed-miliband-wins-labour-leadership

    Starmer is 11 months in – past any “early days”. Brexit comes for all its children, that means its promoters and I think anyone who doesn’t oppose it.* Gonna say it again, and I get that this is a toughie, he’s condemning himself to one term and the party to a long period in the wilderness, along with the Tories if he doesn’t do something radical and distinct. 

    *apart from one who as NT says seems adept at surfing the wave 

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    hawkinspeter

    Hirsute wrote:

    Hirsute wrote:
    I subsequently found a number of people struggle to get to archive.is due to some DNS problem. It works on my phone on 4g

    Works for me too, though I did have issues with it a few months ago which seemed to resolve itself.

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    Hirsute

    I subsequently found a number
    I subsequently found a number of people struggle to get to archive.is due to some DNS problem.
    It works on my phone on 4g

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