The Reform Party and the UK’s lurch towards fascism

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    David9694

    I posted an earlier version of this a while back – inspired to do update following THAT discussion about all things ULEZ. 

    The “manifesto”, in terms of transport, only mentions stopping HS2, but there’s plenty on the usual right-wing obsessions: Brexit, immigration, veterans and climate change.  I had another look because I worry about the ongoing decline of the two main political parties. 

    If the Cons stay wedded to Brexit, then we will go into the next GE with all the widespread impoverishment Brexit has ushered in – not helped by Covid, Putin, etc. People generally vote according to their pockets.  I don’t get Labour’s current position on Europe either, but let’s see how that evolves, and even the Cons may also evolve, or even pivot, but time is already running out for them.

    Several roads now lead to the horrors of a further lurch to the right in this country.  Let’s hope Labour get the GE landslide the polls are predicting – but we’re still at least a year out from the real campaigning beginning. 

    A cycling angle? With the Reform Party and its ilk, Facebook Steve and Nextdoor Dave attain real political influence. It’s not spelt out in the manifesto, but you can see where this is probably heading and what it is likely to mean for cycling.  You can bet that this lot are very much “on the side of hard working drivers” etc. 

    As you all know, Dave’s going to “sort the traffic” and no doubt show them lazy planners how it’s done: Steve thinks the Council are corrupt, the police blinkered and is, if he can fit it in to his busy schedule he’s going to “teach them Lycra’s a thing or two.” It won’t concern him that his Mondeo is 3 months out of MoT or that Mrs Steve sometimes drives the kids in it uninsured. 

    As vulnerable road users, vulnerable people, we rely a great deal on the rule of law for protection. The rule of law means that we understand what the laws are, they are in general fair, and how they are applied and to whom is even-handed and consistent. 

    The fascist position is broadly the opposite – it’s all off-the-cuff to support today’s particular agenda – that’s why the Iain Duncan-Smith “happy to see ULEZ infra vandalised” comment is, as an example, so very worrying.  In the Conservatives, here is a party happy to send signals to enable the mob to attack RNLI stations, beat up immigrants, shout at teachers, doctors etc. 

    This right-wing stuff works by allowing/enabling significant privileged groups to to think of themselves as the downtrodden underdog and here is a way to fight back.  The pro Brexit campaign played on people’s ignorance, fears and prejudices exactly as this does. 

    It’s all about freedom, innit, less regulation, less tax burden, and damn the climate.  There’s more polar bears now, so it’s fine.  Let’s have open-cast coal mining, lithium mining and fracking. The section on climate change stumbles around like a Friday night drunk, trying to explain he wasn’t being racist to the barman – a denier position emerges, unsurprisingly.

    In places, the mask really slips: “We must keep divisive woke ideologies such as Critical Race Theory (CRT) and gender ideology out of the classroom.” – to be honest, I don’t even know what those two are.

    The standard enemies are put up – the civil service, the BBC.  Amid all the thrust and parry, there’s nothing  about making a better, more inclusive and cohesive world to live in; arts, sports and culture don’t feature in this barstool view of the world: a dullard’s grim vision.

    Don’t be a member of the wrong sort of minority would be my advice, should any of this come to pass. 
     

    https://www.reformparty.uk/reformisessential

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    Left_is_for_Losers

    What a rubbish post.

    What a rubbish post.

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    Steve K

    Rich_cb wrote:

    Rich_cb wrote:
    So the correct outgroup to demonise is Conservatives? People like to put other people in outgroups, that’s always been the case. The left like to think that placing conservatives in an outgroup is somehow different. It isn’t, it’s the exact same phenomenon with the exact same ugly sentiment underlying it. If it wasn’t for ‘group X’ then life in this country would be so much better…

    I know plenty of Conservatives (including former advisers to Cabinet Ministers) who despair at the current ‘culture war’ approach of this government.

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    Rich_cb

    So the correct outgroup to
    So the correct outgroup to demonise is Conservatives?

    People like to put other people in outgroups, that’s always been the case.

    The left like to think that placing conservatives in an outgroup is somehow different. It isn’t, it’s the exact same phenomenon with the exact same ugly sentiment underlying it.

    If it wasn’t for ‘group X’ then life in this country would be so much better…

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    essexian
    hawkinspeter wrote:
    In my opinion, the overriding characteristic of far-right politics is to designate an out-group as being a major cause of trouble to people/society/economics and to then de-humanise them and attempt to cause as many problems for them as possible. 

    Completely agree. 

    In my long and boring life, I have seen the following “outgroups” picked on by the Tories: Mods/Rockers, Punks, Miners/those who stood up for their workers rights, New Age Travellers, Single Mums, the unemployed/ benefit claimants etc etc etc.

    Whereas, the actual cause of most of the issues in the UK currently are the policies of the Tory party and their supporters. For example, how many billions were stolen by their supporters during the worse of Covid (it is currently on the increase but you won’t hear that on the BBC)? I think the answer is countless billions.

    And as we need to remember, two songs which sums up how I feel about the Tories:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-yZIOrt02s&t=2s  *

    * Almost 40 years since the Battle of the Beanfield. Never forget, never forgive. 

     

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    hawkinspeter

    Critical Race Theory is

    Critical Race Theory is mainly an investigation into how and why society has systemic racism built into it. It’s a mix of history, sociology, pyschology, economics and politics.

    As far as gender ideology goes, the more basic idea is to respect people and their choices. If someone wants to be referred to by a certain title or pronoun, then it’s just common decency to try to abide by that and not deliberately insult them.

    In my opinion, the overriding characteristic of far-right politics is to designate an out-group as being a major cause of trouble to people/society/economics and to then de-humanise them and attempt to cause as many problems for them as possible. Obviously this is opposite to the purpose of human societies, where we should attempt to work together and help each other. It seems that the current major target in the UK are refugees that are being labelled as “illegal immigrants” and being denied appropriate channels to apply for asylum – hence the rise of “small boats” and the misery and deaths that go along with them.

    Edit: Just seen this article on The Ganduria: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/01/home-office-defies-high-court-by-placing-100-asylum-seeker-children-in-hotels

    It seems that deliberate cruelty is now a feature of our government and I blame everyone that voted for them.

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    the little onion

    And don’t forget, bin the

    And don’t forget, bin the ECHR (you know, the thing that was set up, largely at Churchill’s instigation, in the wake of fascism to prevent it happening again).

     

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