A driver who didn’t like being called out for using the phone while in active moving traffic, retaliated at CyclingMikey with an animated and expletive-laden tirade, which included labelling the cyclist as a ‘virgin’, and then accusing him of supporting Chelsea.
*Warning: contains extremely strong language*
The cycling and road safety campaigner from Netherlands, real name Mike van Erp, often films drivers in London using their mobile phones, and committing other traffic offences, and reports the footage to the police, and also uploads to his YouTube channel.
In his latest video, which has received a fine dose of captioning and editing by none other than Jeremy Vine, Van Erp approaches the driver in his Fiat 500 who appears to be trying to make a call.
The driver on noticing Van Erp, rolls down his window and tries justifying his action saying that there’s a car stopped in front of him, pointing at the red bus. As soon as he says this, the car, ie. the bus starts moving, after which he changes stance, suddenly asking: “What are you f****** worried about it anyway?”
When Van Erp answers that he’ll be reporting it to the police, the driver says: “Well go and do what you f****** want. I’ve got cancer you c*** and I’m going to the hospital. F*** off before I get out, go on, f*** off. You f****** little stupid skinny little c***”.
Van Erp says: “That’ll sound good in front of the magistrate.” But the driver said that he “didn’t give a f***”.
The driver moves a little ahead before coming to another halt behind the car, ie. the bus. Noticing Van Erp in his mirrors, he couldn’t help but resume his tirade. “Well report me you soppy c***.”
Van Erp says that he has reported about a thousand such drivers in the last five years. According to his Twitter, the exact number is 1,369 since 2019.
The driver, then pops his head out of the window and says: “Do you know what a f****** nob you are. Go and get fingered by your bum-boy you soppy c***. No way — never had a bird, have ya? I bet you are a virgin, 100 per cent you’re a virgin.”
These do get a chuckle out of Cycling Mikey, until he gets accused of being a fan of Chelsea football club, and then getting invited inside the car.
“I bet you support Chelsea don’t you? Get that to your magistrate you c***,” says the driver. “If you’re going to be useful, come in the car and f****** w*** me off or something.”
This isn’t the first time that Van Erp has had to face swear-ridden rants by drivers who he’s caught on film using the phone or committing other traffic offences. Recently, a taxi driver warned him that he will “end up needing the dentist” after he challenged the professional driver's mobile phone use behind the wheel.
The cab driver was reported to the Metropolitan Police by the road safety campaigner and YouTuber and is now being investigated by TfL Taxi & Private Hire, but avoided prosecution as the Metropolitan Police “ran out of time”.
I’m not a vigilante, I’m the exact opposite. If you don’t touch your phone when you’re driving, you won’t risk prosecution.
Regarding this incident, Van Erp said: “In my experience it’s common for phone drivers to start claiming things such as cancer, relative with cancer, death in the family, etc. I’ve no idea if this instance is true, but I'm sceptical.
“I got offered a whole lot more than I was expecting from this driver. Going by his obsession with reproduction, I reckon it's him who is short on partners LOL,” he wrote under the YouTube video titled “The Most Eye-Opening Conversation Yet”.
BBC presenter and Channel 5 presenter Jeremy Vine, who edited the footage for Van Erp, also shared it on Twitter, writing: “I have never seen a cyclist-driver confrontation like this before. And towards the end it seems to jump the shark completely.”
But to answer the all-important question, Van Erp has confirmed that he in fact, does not support Chelsea. As for the driver, people on Twitter speculated of him being a West Ham fan, but Vine quickly shut them down saying that there's no evidence of that yet. One person did guess he might be an Arsenal fan though...
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Adwitiya joined road.cc in 2023 as a news writer after graduating with a masters in journalism from Cardiff University. His dissertation focused on active travel, which soon threw him into the deep end of covering everything related to the two-wheeled tool, and now cycling is as big a part of his life as guitars and football. He has previously covered local and national politics for Voice Wales, and also likes to writes about science, tech and the environment, if he can find the time. Living right next to the Taff trail in the Welsh capital, you can find him trying to tackle the brutal climbs in the valleys.
A common reason given for why otherwise generally law abiding and reasonable people chose to disobey rules that they feel are trivial is that although aware of the possible punishment, they do not fear actually getting caught.
I am mostly supportive of CM in dedicating his time to reporting dangerous drivers and accept his stated motives for doing so. That he has gained fame / notoriety is a consequence of years of pursuing his cause.
What would be interesting is a survey of drivers on his territory of operations.
- How many drivers know of him and what he does?
- How many drivers do not use their phones for fear of being reported by him?
Presumably they should have said "I wouldn't object to him reporting her to the Nazis privately, but why did he have to confront her and make a big drama out of it? He's just feeding a culture war".
These scumbags are in need of real help. But are stuck in a world of ignorance. You're a ray of light that cuts through their hypocrisy and blind ignorance. This lesson should be their opportunity to improve themselves. But no. They prefer to persecute the messenger.
It might be an older generation thing, but does anyone else think it a bit odd that a big hard man, obsessed with fingering and bum boys, not having a bird...is behind the wheel of a Fiat 500?
Wow. What appalling language. He is one seriously angry man. He should be punished for the language as well as the phone use. Disgusting behaviour all round!
Following someone to gather information is not illegal or considered stalking, otherwise private investigators would be criminalised for doing their job.
Let's be clear - these people are breaking the law. But in the grand scheme of things, it's a minor infringement.
The impact could be huge. Perhaps these people are suffering from financial, emotional or health difficulties at the time.
My emphasis. Won't you think about the driver? Amazed they've not added a campaign to remove all this negative road safety messaging - as it could trigger a traumatised person who's "innocently killed" someone with their vehicle.
I'd like funding to pay someone to (with little merit) follow Mikey around and film him, hoping for some minor infringement of his own. Perhaps he'll jump a red light. Scrape a car and not report it. I don't know (or care frankly).
However much is generated in this GoFundMe, we will be operating a Jeremy Beadle-esque reward system. £100 for your best clips. Anything left over at the end of 2023 I'll keep and (might) spend on a new bike, with a camera-holding cycle helmet - or a hands-free kit for my car..... Or I might just buy myself some beers to congratulate myself on the discovery that there are other sane people out there who have better things to do with their time than cycling around being a pain in the ar*e.....
Is it me, or do some people really have far too much time on their hands...?
I'd like funding to pay someone to (with little merit) follow Mikey around and film him, hoping for some minor infringement of his own. Perhaps he'll jump a red light. Scrape a car and not report it. I don't know (or care frankly).
However much is generated in this GoFundMe, we will be operating a Jeremy Beadle-esque reward system. £100 for your best clips. Anything left over at the end of 2023 I'll keep and (might) spend on a new bike, with a camera-holding cycle helmet - or a hands-free kit for my car..... Or I might just buy myself some beers to congratulate myself on the discovery that there are other sane people out there who have better things to do with their time than cycling around being a pain in the ar*e.....
Is it me, or do some people really have far too much time on their hands...?
Yep. "I have better things to do with my time than report errant drivers. Instead, I spend my time pursuing a vendetta against someone who reports errant drivers."
Not a popular opinion here but making a man already stressed preparing for chemo treatment even more mad while standing still in the middle of the road (and partly on the opposite lane), seems to me creating more dangers than a guy using phone in a car blocked from traffic.
This angry driver if he stereotypes so easily as seen on the video, will probably hate all cyclists (or hate them even more if he already did) and will create dangerous situations to cyclists he may encounter in future.
Not a popular opinion here but making a man already stressed preparing for chemo treatment even more mad while standing still in the middle of the road (and partly on the opposite lane), seems to me creating more dangers than a guy using phone in a car blocked from traffic.
He says "I've got cancer you cunt, I'm going to the hospital"; apart from the fact that we only have his word for that (it's amazing how many people breaking the law are rushing to hospital for one reason or another, according to them) you've made up "preparing for chemo treatment" from your imagination. In any case, when I was diagnosed with a form of blood cancer I didn't think it gave me the right to break the law, even on the many times I was on my way to hospital for treatment.
Not a popular opinion here but making a man already stressed preparing for chemo treatment even more mad while standing still in the middle of the road (and partly on the opposite lane), seems to me creating more dangers than a guy using phone in a car blocked from traffic.
I get some of that, and "creating danger" - never a clever thing to do (outside of a circus). But who is creating what danger for whom? There's a continuum, from self-harming to terrorism. I'd say who is affected and what the danger is can be quite important.
cyclisto wrote:
This angry driver if he stereotypes so easily as seen on the video, will probably hate all cyclists (or hate them even more if he already did) and will create dangerous situations to cyclists he may encounter in future.
Too late. Although perhaps he's "all mouth, no trousers?" (Seemed a bit more "creative" than many.) No amount of people playing nice is going to stop him being angry (and not paying due attention!) while driving. Now that's a danger...
cyclisto wrote:
Better have peace on roads, it benefits everyone.
We are still moving towards "peace" through anyone not in a car being effectively barred from vast amounts of public space. And they're still dying (in cars, on footways, in schools just yesterday). That is not the peace many are looking for.
Not a popular opinion here but making a man already stressed preparing for chemo treatment even more mad while standing still in the middle of the road (and partly on the opposite lane), seems to me creating more dangers than a guy using phone in a car blocked from traffic.
This angry driver if he stereotypes so easily as seen on the video, will probably hate all cyclists (or hate them even more if he already did) and will create dangerous situations to cyclists he may encounter in future.
Better have peace on roads, it benefits everyone.
One of the first steps to having peace on the roads is for drivers to stop killing and injuring people. Phone use behind the wheel is extremely dangerous and is both illegal and immoral as it endangers others for no good reason.
So, to achieve peace on the roads, STOP USING YOUR PHONE.
(I just don't get why people are trying to shift the blame on Mikey - he's part of the solution)
Not a popular opinion here but making a man already stressed preparing for chemo treatment even more mad while standing still in the middle of the road (and partly on the opposite lane), seems to me creating more dangers than a guy using phone in a car blocked from traffic.
This angry driver if he stereotypes so easily as seen on the video, will probably hate all cyclists (or hate them even more if he already did) and will create dangerous situations to cyclists he may encounter in future.
Better have peace on roads, it benefits everyone.
You really think it likely that he was on his way to hospital and wasn't just making up a story to justify his lawbreaking? Alrighty then...
Why is it that when people (like you?) call for everyone to just get along and stop harrassing each other so we can have peace in our time, you always expect the cyclists to be the ones to just let it go and not get involved. You never seem to suggest that maybe - just maybe - the motorists in their two tonnes of car ought to start behaving and following the law. Funny, that.
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Time to enjoy a cartoon again! Life imitating art.
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And I would strongly suggest he doesn't.
A common reason given for why otherwise generally law abiding and reasonable people chose to disobey rules that they feel are trivial is that although aware of the possible punishment, they do not fear actually getting caught.
I am mostly supportive of CM in dedicating his time to reporting dangerous drivers and accept his stated motives for doing so. That he has gained fame / notoriety is a consequence of years of pursuing his cause.
What would be interesting is a survey of drivers on his territory of operations.
- How many drivers know of him and what he does?
- How many drivers do not use their phones for fear of being reported by him?
I see the latest attack on Mikey is to claim he would have reported Anne Frank to the Nazis.
If any one wants to unpack that analogy...
Wasn't she too young to drive?
Also, even if mobile phones were around then, who would she have been phoning?
Is your comment taking obvious humour literally, an attempt at humour?
Presumably they should have said "I wouldn't object to him reporting her to the Nazis privately, but why did he have to confront her and make a big drama out of it? He's just feeding a culture war".
Don't forget the massive ad revenue...
Nice, especially given that Mikey's Dutch family lost members to the Nazis and both his parents were interred in Japanese prison camps as children.
Mikey
You are an absolute hero.
These scumbags are in need of real help. But are stuck in a world of ignorance. You're a ray of light that cuts through their hypocrisy and blind ignorance. This lesson should be their opportunity to improve themselves. But no. They prefer to persecute the messenger.
Thank you. Mikey. Stay strong.
It might be an older generation thing, but does anyone else think it a bit odd that a big hard man, obsessed with fingering and bum boys, not having a bird...is behind the wheel of a Fiat 500?
Wow. What appalling language. He is one seriously angry man. He should be punished for the language as well as the phone use. Disgusting behaviour all round!
Some real saddo here
https://www.gofundme.com/f/vigilante-the-vigilante
Ex road.cc reader !
Hmmm - the reasons for reporting a fundraiser doesn't seem to cover fundraisers for stalking people which is illegal AFAIK.
Covers libel and I considered calling someone a vigilante which is demonstrably false to be libellous.
Good point - I'll try reporting it again using that reason.
Good luck with that; libel has to be proven to be actioned and police will not act on a civil wrong either..
Following someone to gather information is not illegal or considered stalking, otherwise private investigators would be criminalised for doing their job.
My emphasis. Won't you think about the driver? Amazed they've not added a campaign to remove all this negative road safety messaging - as it could trigger a traumatised person who's "innocently killed" someone with their vehicle.
Is it me, or do some people really have far too much time on their hands...?
Yep. "I have better things to do with my time than report errant drivers. Instead, I spend my time pursuing a vendetta against someone who reports errant drivers."
Total saddo, more pathetetic than he beleives CM to be.
I've got a better idea start up a go fund me or something else to get Mikey a Knighthood.
perhaps a go fund me to improve spelling proficiency..
I'd say the driver fits the stereotype of a Millwall fan. No one likes them and they don't care.
Not a popular opinion here but making a man already stressed preparing for chemo treatment even more mad while standing still in the middle of the road (and partly on the opposite lane), seems to me creating more dangers than a guy using phone in a car blocked from traffic.
This angry driver if he stereotypes so easily as seen on the video, will probably hate all cyclists (or hate them even more if he already did) and will create dangerous situations to cyclists he may encounter in future.
Better have peace on roads, it benefits everyone.
He says "I've got cancer you cunt, I'm going to the hospital"; apart from the fact that we only have his word for that (it's amazing how many people breaking the law are rushing to hospital for one reason or another, according to them) you've made up "preparing for chemo treatment" from your imagination. In any case, when I was diagnosed with a form of blood cancer I didn't think it gave me the right to break the law, even on the many times I was on my way to hospital for treatment.
I get some of that, and "creating danger" - never a clever thing to do (outside of a circus). But who is creating what danger for whom? There's a continuum, from self-harming to terrorism. I'd say who is affected and what the danger is can be quite important.
Too late. Although perhaps he's "all mouth, no trousers?" (Seemed a bit more "creative" than many.) No amount of people playing nice is going to stop him being angry (and not paying due attention!) while driving. Now that's a danger...
We are still moving towards "peace" through anyone not in a car being effectively barred from vast amounts of public space. And they're still dying (in cars, on footways, in schools just yesterday). That is not the peace many are looking for.
One of the first steps to having peace on the roads is for drivers to stop killing and injuring people. Phone use behind the wheel is extremely dangerous and is both illegal and immoral as it endangers others for no good reason.
So, to achieve peace on the roads, STOP USING YOUR PHONE.
(I just don't get why people are trying to shift the blame on Mikey - he's part of the solution)
You really think it likely that he was on his way to hospital and wasn't just making up a story to justify his lawbreaking? Alrighty then...
Why is it that when people (like you?) call for everyone to just get along and stop harrassing each other so we can have peace in our time, you always expect the cyclists to be the ones to just let it go and not get involved. You never seem to suggest that maybe - just maybe - the motorists in their two tonnes of car ought to start behaving and following the law. Funny, that.
Where is the danger coming from?
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