Shocking moment dangerous driver hits cyclists at speed after drifting onto white line; Jeremy Clarkson hates cycle lanes shocker; Trenching is the new Everesting: 91 ascents of Box Hill in 450km epic ride; Sagan in space? + more on the live blog
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Trenching is the new Everesting: Chris Hall climbs Box Hill 91 times in 450km epic ride
Cycled up and down Box Hill 91 times this weekend to help raise awareness for the alarming statistic that 91 men take their own lives each week and to fundraise for @MovemberUK.
If you’re able to support their work head here: https://t.co/OecpYwGwku pic.twitter.com/T7QPLHjftT
— Chris Hall (@chrishallrides) November 30, 2020
Get out on your bike this weekend? Chris Hall did. Trenching is like Everesting, but harder. Rather than ascending the 8,848m height of Mount Everest you descend the altitude of the deepest oceanic trench on earth. The Mariana Trench reaches a depth of 10,994m and to descend that amount of altitude, Chris knew he’d have to do a lot of reps of Box Hill. The challenge was made harder by Box’s shallow 5% average gradient which made altitude gain slower than on a steeper climb.
All for the good cause of raising money for Movember he set off just before 7am on Saturday morning, rode for 25 hours and finished the challenge on Sunday afternoon. The Strava data from the ride shows he covered 451.5km and climbed 11,870m. Chris kept his average speed for the attempt comfortably above 15km/h and he burned over 13,000 calories. Chapeau.
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Dr Richard Freeman tribunal adjourned again, decision expected in March
The Richard Freeman medical tribunal has been adjourned again. It was meant to conclude on Thursday but will now resume on January 22 when both parties will give their closing submissions before a ‘facts decision’ is expected to be published on March 2. The tribunal began in November 2019.
Last week the hearing heard that Shane Sutton was accused of ‘absolutely lying’ by a former team-mate over his denial of knowledge of doping. The fitness-to-practice case is centred around the former Team Sky doctor ordering banned testosterone patches while working for British Cycling. Freeman admits he ordered the banned patches but claims they were to treat Sutton’s erectile dysfunction and not for a rider. Sutton denies this.
Chris Akrigg's e-bike adventure
Portsmouth Kings Road segregated cycle lane to be scrapped after three-week trial
The BBC reports that the Kings Road segregated cycle lane in Portsmouth is to be scrapped after a three-week trial. Cycling campaigners have warned that the decision will increase congestion and pollution. It was installed earlier in November but almost 70% of 1,400 respondents to a council survey said the lane had a “negative impact” on the area.
Council transport chief Lynne Stagg said: “It is a shame that it has not worked but we are committed to continuing to work with cyclists, residents and businesses along these roads.”
However, the Pompey Cycle Forum have criticised the timing of the trial and said it should not have been run in late autumn during a national lockdown. A statement said: “There was not enough time to measure real aims of the scheme, which was to enable some residents to feel safe in switching their mode of transport away from relying on private vehicles, and towards using more sustainable methods.”
Shocking crash as driver hits cyclist at speed after drifting onto white line while passing the group
Shocking!
Newcastle this weekend. pic.twitter.com/jZ5rcJcV5n— Michael Tomalaris (@miketomalaris) November 29, 2020
This shocking footage of a crash in New South Wales, Australia, shows the moment a driver collides with a cyclist as they drift onto the white line while passing the group at speed. The driver does not appear to stop in the video and the impact causes multiple riders in the group to fall.
Despite the video some people have blamed the group of cyclists and not the driver. One commenter wrote: “WTF are they riding two abreast on a fast road? Cyclists are responsible for their own safety too. This is ridiculous and an accident waiting to happen.”
Another added: “As a motorcyclist you are taught to read the road and get in a position away from danger. It astounds me that bicyclists keep putting themselves in harm’s way. Regardless of rules, There’s room to ride single file away from the road edge, so why not choose the safer option?”
Riding two abreast is perfectly legal and NSW Police have confirmed they are investigating the incident.
The next generation of Monument winners
It was so great to ride with @CalebEwan @Tim_Wellens and my twoo kids #Alan #Alexandre pic.twitter.com/aqVMaCBcu4
— PHILIPPE GILBERT (@PhilippeGilbert) November 29, 2020
Chris Hall's epic ride
This morning we shared Chris Hall’s staggering achievement. Over 25 hours of riding he covered 450km with 91 ascents of Box Hill to rack up the same descending elevation as the Mariana Trench. Chris did 91 reps of the famous climb smashing his 11,034m goal and hit 11,870m by Sunday lunchtime. Cycling YouTuber Francis Cade joined Chris for the last stretch of the ride and has made the video above, documenting the challenge.
Dame Sarah Storey busts common active travel myths
Thread:
Last week was myth busting week over on the @SheffCityRegion Active Travel channel @CyclewalkSCR
We tackled 10 common myths which I’ve collated in case you missed any 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 please share far & wide, or use to help with your own responses to discussions we all encounter https://t.co/AGi3hLtMB9
— Dame Sarah Storey (@DameSarahStorey) November 30, 2020
Velobici launches Cobalto Thermal winter cycling collection
Designed to regulate your body temperature and keep you comfortable in all weather conditions, Velobici’s new winter cycling collection aims ‘to take you through the cooler months, with a style inspired by the gemstone in Campagnolo’s legendary Cobalto brakeset.’
Jeremy Clarkson hates cycle lanes shocker
Death, taxes and… Jeremy Clarkson slagging off anything to do with cycling are just facts of life, as we all know. Speaking at the press launch of the new series of The Grand Tour (not the cycling type), he bemoaned London’s new pop-up cycling infrastructure.
“It took me three hours to get to where I am this morning, because the Mayor of London is an imbecile. He’s just turned the whole damn city into a cycle lane. I don’t mind one or two cycle lanes where it’s convenient but he’s put one in the Euston underpass. I mean, the man’s a maniac and must be stopped,” Clarkson said.
A spokesperson for Mayor Sadiq Khan responded to Clarkson: “London is facing an air quality crisis which is causing thousands of deaths per year and exacerbating the physical effects of Covid-19. Half of toxic emissions in the city are caused by road transport.
“These policies are about saving lives and Sadiq makes no apologies for the temporary emergency measures he has put in place to encourage the huge increase in cycling we’ve seen since the pandemic began which is also enabling social distancing on public transport. We mustn’t get through one public health crisis only to face another caused by congestion and toxic air pollution.”
Clarkson has a long and consistent history of taking issue with cycling. In the past he has said that “bikes can f*@% off” and that cyclists are “idiots waging war on normality.”
However, it isn’t all bike hating on The Grand Tour – James May loves cycling and urged Boris Johnson to “bomb us with bicycles”, and even Clarkson himself lost 2st through the power of two wheels.
Interview with Craig Johnston, the cyclist hit in that shocking video, on local radio in Australia
Thankfully the cyclists involved in the crash in New South Wales are recovering well from the incident. Speaking on ABC, Craig Johnston, who is the rider videoed getting struck by the driver (you can see it further down the page), said: “[I’m] a bit sore and bruised but otherwise fairly okay. The scary thought was obviously if he came over another couple of inches it could have been a whole other story. I may not have been here and there would have been others that would not be here either.
“There was another rider in front of me that was on the front of the group that also got hit by the car which doesn’t show up on that footage. He ended up with a larger open wound, a gash on his forearm, where I think it might have been the broken mirror that opened him right up, so he was in a bad state.
“It all just happened so quickly. Very frightening. You’re always mindful of the cars but you just like to hope people are aware while they’re out there driving on the roads and taking into consideration when they do see cyclists just to give us a bit of room.
“We weren’t doing anything erratic, there was no crazy movement. We were just riding along as we normally do, behaving in an orderly manner and before we know it clout, and it’s all over in a millisecond. Hopefully it [the video] just creates a bit of awareness to drivers about cyclists. I’m always cautious about vehicles on the road but I never thought this would happen.”
Peter Sagan's quiet off season
If this is Peter Sagan’s plan for beating Mathieu van der Poel and Wout van Aert in the Spring Classics next year then the UCI may have something to say. The three-time world champion took to the sky in a fighter jet and tweeted French astronaut Thomas Pesquet: “I pulled 7.9g in my recent flight in a fighter jet. It was a bumpy ride at times but I’m definitely getting better and I’ll keep training. Please call me when there is a spot in a SpaceX rocket to the Space Station. You can put me in the cargo bay if needed.”
16 spin bikes stolen from leisure centre
West Mercia Police are appealing for information following a break-in at Droitwich Leisure Centre. Police say the offenders broke in just after 10.30pm on Friday evening and stole 16 Technogym spin bikes. Police Constable Dean Bowen said: “We are appealing for anybody that was in the area around that time on Friday evening to think back and please get in contact with us if they saw anything suspicious.
“In particular, we would like to hear from anyone who saw a white Mercedes Luton Box van approaching the leisure centre and then leaving a short while later.”
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If you're cycling in the UK. But just be careful about picking up discarded perfume bottles, watch who you drink tea with, don't cycle near Russian warships etc.
Vittoria Corsa NeXT are the answer for anyone who actually isn’t pro. Still better than Conti GP5000’s, more durable, better ride feel and better price. …the best way to not pay too much? Buy something else.
I'm am more at threat from dangerous drivers than I am from russian snipers
But again, it's irrelevant to the argument.
The thing that makes cycling more dangerous (among others) is poor skill and situational awareness. Both of which will be exacerbated by this thing full of screens sensors and other distractions which will do nothing to help a novice ride better.
Good to hear that people are keen and they won't be doing the Lambeth Walk if they can help it. Now, can we have a rule that new buildings (that the government wants more of built) have to include decent cycle storage space? Like in NL? (Of course not - that would be insanity as nobody cycles, and anyway Nige and Kemi and anyone else will be shouting "nanny state" and "government overreach". And frankly the planning process is a giant hot mess as it is and we're already worried about being slated for missing housing targets ...)
Those wheels are certainly a major advance in road safety for squirrels trying to cross the road.
@momove maybe they mean "more pure cycling *marketing*"?
It needs to read license plates, look them up, and tell you the registered owner has 26 prior driving offences. Ideally it would remotely hack their car and turn the engine off. Driver: I only get 'undred yards down road and another one of those bloody smart bikes shuts me down. Took me two hours to get t' pub.
Shurely one of those Zwift bikes is safer? As long as you get medical approval before use, always wear a helmet in case you fall off and don't put it near a wall that someone might inadvertently drive a motor vehicle through.
58 thoughts on “Shocking moment dangerous driver hits cyclists at speed after drifting onto white line; Jeremy Clarkson hates cycle lanes shocker; Trenching is the new Everesting: 91 ascents of Box Hill in 450km epic ride; Sagan in space? + more on the live blog”
Bloody cyclists – riding two
Bloody cyclists – riding two abreast and taking up the whole road!
Re: Trenching – are the
Re: Trenching – are the ‘rules’ established yet? Can you, for instance, start at the top of a very large mountain? 😀
Probably can, although you
Probably can, although you would have to cycle back up it being as no mountain is 10k metres high on this planet. (Well until manned Mars missions it isn’t possible anyway.)
True, but if you’re allowed
True, but if you’re allowed to start at the top and finish at the bottom, you could save yourself one ascent, which could be ~1km elevation gain if you choose carefully.
No mountain has a peak 10km
No mountain has a peak 10km above sea level, but Mauna Kea is over 10km tall from bottom to top – it’s just most of it is underwater. Not sure how easy it would be to descend that tho…
I guess can be fun to hear
I guess can be fun to hear about people’s exploits, but I must admit I find “Everesting” of only mild interest. I’m not that keen for “Trenching” to come to the party.
At first I was impressed by
At first I was impressed by people achieving this, but now, it’s all a bit…meh. I’m actually bored by more attempts.
‘Everesting’ is about climbing, but the ‘trenching’ is actually no different, is it? They’re still having to climb to be able to descend the correct amount of metres.
They’re both purely physical efforts, and like hill climbing, etc require not much technical skills. Now if someone did it off road on a DH MTB trail, I’d be more impressed…..
The fact that the cyclists in
The fact that the cyclists in N.S.W. were actually cycling on teh road shoulder, NOT “in the road” seems to have escaped many many people. The car actually swerves off to road to hit them.
That’s not a road lane, it’s not a cycle lane, it’s the shoulder, outside the section of the road that is designated for actual use.
Spot on. This road is in my
Spot on. This road is in my neck of the woods, and I use it semi regularly because it links to cycle routes. There’s a bicycle crossing at the intersection at my end to access it, a dangerous crossing point at an on-ramp because they were too lazy to put an underpass for cyclist in, and the road shoulder is 2.5m wide with the usual debris. There’s a 90kmh limit but drivers treat it like a racetrack – the roads either end are bottlenecks and they just can’t help themselves.
My thoughts exactly. That’s
My thoughts exactly. That’s like a car driving onto the pavement, hitting a pedestrian and blaming the pedestrian for being there. A solid white line is basically a kerb.
Technically the ‘hard
Technically the ‘hard shoulder’ is part of the road so even if the driver hadn’t swerved into them, it would have likely have still been a very fast close pass. Once the driver sees a cyclist up ahead, whether on the hard shoulder or in a cycle lane, they should move across partially into lane 2 when safe to give the cyclists 1.5 metres.
It does beg the question- would the cyclists have been safer riding on the actual carriageway thereby forcing overtaking traffic into lane 2?
And the answer to that
And the answer to that question is no. If the cyclist is hit when they leave the entire 3.2m wide lane for drivers to position their vehicle in, which would allow the driver to give up to a metre without leaving the lane, then moving closer to traffic just increases the probability of a close pass or collision. Road positioning when cycling is not what determines driver competence, nor should we go down the victim blaming rabbit hole by implying that the riders had any control over what the driver does behind the wheel.
oh, and the hard shoulder isn’t classified as part of the road in Australia, it’s a “road related area”. Section 12 of the road act covers this.
I don’t see it as ‘victim
I don’t see it as ‘victim blaming’, it’s defensive cycling. I’d rather be safe and alive rather than dead or seriously injured just to prove a point that it’s the motorists responsibility. There are far too many idiots on the road to have any level of trust.
You might not see it as
You might not see it as victim blaming, but I do. There’s no contributory negligence, they’re riding in the road shoulder not the lane, no weaving, as a pack which means they are occupying the space of a HGV and are very visible. It was two hours after sunrise on a Saturday morning when traffic levels are low, the road is straight with good sight lines and there’s ample room for drivers to pass given two 3.2m wide lanes to the right of the cyclists. And you want to talk about defensive cycling, just what the f*ck else do you think they could do to prevent an inattentive driver from hitting them? Stay at home and not ride at all?
That video is more than
That video is more than shocking it’s sickening. I sincerely hope that all those cyclists involved are physically and emotionally ok.
Agreed. Poor guys ;-(
Agreed. Poor guys ;-(
Scumbag driver did it and didn’t stop ;-(
NZ Vegan Rider wrote:
According to the radio interview, he did stop. Should still be prosecuted and lose his licence though.
Just to be a pedant, but if
Just to be a pedant, but if the ride was about “trenching”, shouldn’t the headline read “91 DESCENTS of Box Hill”, not ascents.
Probably because the
Probably because the ascending is the hard part.
You’ve obviously never seen
You’ve obviously never seen me descending. (And, yes, I know that really 🙂 )
Steve K wrote:
Yes, rather like planes only being charged landing fees; they can take off as many times as they like for free.
Didn’t see this reported or
Didn’t see this reported or countered: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/11/29/exclusive-cyclists-shun-roads-designed-bike-friendly-250m-scheme/amp/
Apparently the Telegraph stood around pop up cycle lanes at Birmingham, Bradford, Brighton, Bristol, Gloucester, Hull, Liverpool and Southampton, counted 34,726 vehicles and only 608 people cycling.
Additionally, Shaun Bailey (Tory London mayor candidate) promising to pause temporary cycle lanes and suspend LTNs – https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/11/29/shaun-bailey-will-pause-rollout-temporary-cycle-lanes-become/amp/. “The evidence is clear: LTNs have caused gridlock in London, even though there are fewer cars on our streets. By funnelling drivers on to main roads, the scheme has led to massive queues of idling engines pumping out fumes.”
I was stuck behind a long
I was stuck behind a long queue of motor traffic – for several minutes, I tells ya! – waiting to cross Clifton Suspension Bridge this morning.
Someone was sitting in their car at one of the toll gates, on their phone and with their hazard warning lights flashing.
I don’t know whether they’d broken down, or if they’d suddenly realised that they couldn’t pay the toll, but they were causing tremendous congestion.
I was expecting it to get
I was expecting it to get mentioned as the Daily Mail had picked up the story in that classic newspaper style of this other newspaper says this, and thats our story.
But yes the Telegraph was at it again this weekend, must be target to print 3 stories/opinion pieces per Sunday edition at the moment, and you missed the disabled granny with £3000 of fines for driving through a LTN road, though total non story because it was only £2860 if the fines were paid at the full rate, and actually the council had already quashed all but 1 of the fines anyway.
By that logic, rip out all
By that logic, rip out all pavements, crossings, hard shoulders etc. Widen all doors so you can drive into any building.
A little-known fact is that before 1885 when Benz introduced his invention, no one moved in towns at all because it’s actually not possible without a car. Trained ring-tailed lemurs brought food to town dwellers, otherwise they’d have starved.
When will they understand that traffic jams are caused by traffic? If you want to get somewhere quickly in a city, don’t use a four wheeled vehicle if you can avoid it.
Clarkson, cycling would be good for you even if that paunch would struggle to fit in what often passes for a bike lane to begin with. And what happened to the epiphany he’s supposed to have had in Thailand, realising cycling is useful and satisfying? Has that idea been lost to the urge to be controversial?
Nigel Garrage wrote:
Everything the Telegraph prints these days can be safely ignored. Apparently it was once a respectable institution. No idea when.
And the rival mayoral candidate? I wont even say his name. He’s an utter clown.
I’ll just leave this here
I’ll just leave this here
So left leaning website says
So left leaning website says a left leaning paper is the most honest. Also in today’s news. The pope found to be catholic
BudgieBike wrote:
As the pope is most definitely catholic, I presume you’re implying that left leaning papers are more honest.
That is a pretty laughable
That is a pretty laughable ranking system.
The i is comparable in quality to The Economist?
The Metro is equivalent to the FT?
The Daily Star is higher quality than The Times?
The Express is higher quality than anything at all?
It does seem a bit of a weird
It does seem a bit of a weird metric doesn’t it?
Although to be fair to the author of the graph, they do say that they’d probably score The Economist higher but for a lack of inclusion in studies on ‘news’ – perhaps rating it as ‘commentary’ instead?
FT and The Economist should be easily as high as The Grauniad.
Rich_cb wrote:
On the page that graphic came from, it does detail that The Economist isn’t formally ranked due to lack of information as it’s not normally considered a newspaper in studies as it comes out weekly. It is noted that there’s no criticisms of it.
The Times suffers because it includes The Sunday Times that has a large number of made up stories and it also suffered as it was the source for about 10% of misleading stories about the EU. It also has a large number of successfull PCC complaints against it.
I think the chart looks biased, but I didn’t find any other direct comparison from a quick search. Can you provide a more accurate and unbiased comparison?
Rich_cb wrote:
If you go to the website you’ll be able to understand how the ranking has taken place. Then you may criticise the methodology rather than the output. Currently you are falling for the popular fallacy, the argument from personal incredulity (AKA appeal to common sense).
You’re assuming I haven’t
You’re assuming I haven’t been to the website. What type of fallacy is that?
I have.
The ranking is a joke.
There are only two types of inaccurate articles that score you negative points. If a paper misleads in other areas there are barely any negative consequences.
The ranking also openly relies on subjective statements, some even anonymously attributed.
Rich_cb wrote:
I’d be interested in seeing a more rigorous comparison of UK papers (which are generally acknowledged to be amongst the worst for western Europe). Can you find some better comparisons?
I’m not aware of any.
I’m not aware of any.
Most press rankings, ironically, seem to be designed to mislead the public.
Yeah, my admittedly brief
Yeah, my admittedly brief search didn’t find anything better and to be honest I posted that diagram in part to provoke a response.
I would agree, however that The Guardian does seem to be one of the more accurate news sources even though they are heavily left leaning (though that does align somewhat with my beliefs). Unfortunately, most of the right-wing press is either filled with un-truths or stuck behind a paywall (or both) so it’s tricky to get a balance.
I think the Telegraph,
I think the Telegraph, Guardian and Times are about equal when it comes to honesty.
They all lie to support their editorial position.
The Guardian often misleads in quite a subtle fashion, either constantly reframing arguments until a nuanced position becomes a firm fact or deliberately omitting the key facts that undermine the argument they’re making.
The Telegraph prefers the classic ‘I’m a keen cyclist but…’ way of presenting half truths and deception. They seem to omit less than the Guardian IMO.
There also seems far more diversity of opinion allowed in the Telegraph/Spectator/Times than there is in the Guardian.
Rich_cb wrote:
That’s more like it, you are now starting to criticise the methodology…. what would make it even better would be to make the criticism coherent. Baby steps though, well done on progress so far….
Care to point out the parts
Care to point out the parts that are not coherent?
Rich_cb wrote:
It’s a matter of presenting your arguments in an understandable way. You fired off a retort which starts with an assertion/accusation on my assumptions. I merely pointed you to the source. It would have been difficult to know that you had actually visited it from reading your OP, as you seemed to dislike the output at that point and made no mention of the methodology.
Then follows subjective, hyperbolic opinion (“The ranking is a joke”)This doesn’t look particularly rational, and suggests (maybe wrongly or unintentionally I accept) of more of an emotional response to HPs post.
The last couple of sentences were much better and gave some arguable critique to the data and its collation. That’s really the diamond that you want to present, but you must make sure that the reader can get to it without being browbeaten with your opinion first. Remember that you want them to come to that opinion themselves – you’re just going to present the evidence.
All in all much better argument, but let down by the intro. I think it deserves a good C+
Hope that helps.
Your original reply began
Your original reply began with “If you”.
Clearly that was an assumption on your part.
I was merely correcting your incorrect assumption.
I then joked about fallacies to poke fun at your patronising tone.
I then presented my opinion followed by the reasoning behind it.
A perfectly rational structure.
D – for your critique.
Perhaps you should stick to shouting “Troll!” at people, it seems more your level.
Rich_cb wrote:
You asked for my feedback, I gave it. Horse to water and all that. Have a great day
Edit: By the way, there’s only one individual on this site who I’ll shout Troll at. It’s not you. You’re not so bad, and have some potential for better things.
You have an unsolicited
You gave an unsolicited opinion and I asked you to back it up.
You couldn’t.
Rich_cb wrote:
Aawww never mind. You’ll understand when you’re older. Now run along there’s a good chap
The patronising tone didn’t
The patronising tone didn’t work the first time.
Looks like you’ll have to learn a new trick.
You can learn the definition of coherent while you’re at it.
Rich_cb wrote:
I’m sure I don’t know what you mean. Have a great evening
I thought “The people seems
I thought “The people seems remarkably high, didn’t think that was quality journalism” then I saw the scale. So depressing, a damning indictment of the people of this country really. They say people get the press they deserve, and to some extent it is true, if people are choosing to buy rubbish, then the publishers will print what sells.
The quality scale denotes the
The quality scale denotes the severity of the headache I get after 20 minutes of reading.
But then how to explain the Mail, which has somehow pulled off the trick of being utterly tedious to read and is ranked rock bottom, below The Sun.
the duration of my exposure to these tabloids is dictated by how quickly the take away get my order ready.
Nigel Garrage wrote:
Shaun Bailey promising something that wouldn’t be within his remit. Sounds like the promised sunlit uplands of Brexit. The things he promised to abolish are not on TfL roads and therefore as London Mayor he can’t effect them. He probably knows this, it’s propaganda that some idiots will fall for. It’s quite obviously lying to get votes, but it seems there is no law against that?
You’d like to think it’s he
You’d like to think it’s he knows that LTNs are on council operated roads but then again he also says ‘the evidence is clear: LTNs have caused gridlock in London’ so maybe he’s genuinely clueless. The problem is with using anti-LTN nonsense to get votes is that the overwhelming majority of people who live in them are in favour of them.
The cyclist in that crash was
The cyclist in that crash was interviewed on local radio: https://www.abc.net.au/radio/newcastle/programs/breakfast/cycling-safety/12933940
Philh68 wrote:
Incredibly, the interviewer asks if there was anything the cyclists could have done to avoid the collision, but not if there was anything the driver could have done. Are Aussie radio jocks trained to ignore the utterly bleedin’ obvious?
Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be any way of responding on line to the radio station to call them the imbeciles they are.
That’s to be expected. There
That’s to be expected. There’s no point asking the rider what the driver could have done differently because it’s a) obvious and b) speculative. An interviewer can only ask about the things within the subject’s control. The driver wasn’t interviewed.
The question of what else the riders could have done is inane, but that is what you get when you have a national broadcaster that is used for more political free kicks than any other govt service and is constantly pressured to present a “balanced” viewpoint (even though we know balanced just means don’t upset the status quo). In any case, it’s the sort of question that would be asked in a courtroom by legal counsel trying to establish (or refute) contributory negligence. And it’s a radio program and there’s no guarantee that listeners have seen or are able to see the video. So as silly a question as it was, it may be better that it was asked and answered.
Chris Hall is an absolute
Chris Hall is an absolute Hero, he’s done some seriously impressive feats to raise funds for some very worthwhile causes. He always comes across as a very humble man too.
We need more Chris’ in this world…
Should trenching actually be
Should trenching actually be called Marianaing?
Marianasing sounds better I suppose.
Trenching – descend the same
Trenching – descend the same depth as the trench, does this mean 91 descents and 90 climbs? and that by using a taller hill (or mountain) there could have been less climbing?
I wonder if that was enough
I wonder if that was enough of a ‘wobble’ to fulfil the Essex Police criterion for a significantly close pass?