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Jonas Vingegaard training crash (Image Credit: Pedro García Fernández/Strava)

“How would you feel about a random person breathing down your neck at work?”: Pro cyclist frustrated by Vingegaard training crash, tells fans to ask if they want to ride on the wheel; “I’ve never understood the hate for cyclists” + more on the live blog

Dan Alexander will be taking you through the midway point in the week with the usual eclectic mix of news, views, reaction and plenty of silliness from the world of cycling this Wednesday
  • by Dan Alexander
Wed, Jan 28, 2026 08:54
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SUMMARY

  • "I've never understood the hate for cyclists. If they weren't cycling a good number would be forced to take motor vehicles, further clogging up the streets"
  • Will the law soon clamp down on illegal e-bikes?
  • Liam's checklist of things to learn
  • "Now is the time to speak up": Salsa Cycles responds to death of Alex Pretti by urging cycling community to "stand up"
  • Surf Coast Classics cancelled due to searing heat and bushfire threat to be replaced by new Cadel Evans-branded criterium
  • Swansea University to work with Ineos Grenadiers to "help transform elite cycling talent identification"
  • Police confirm U-turn on controversial policy not to investigate stolen bikes left outside train stations for more than two hours
  • Oxford gets its first blind spot mirror
  • Salsa Cycles and Wolf Tooth join Minnesota cycling community in remembering man killed by ICE agents
  • Jonathan Milan powers to second stage win at AlUla Tour
  • "All our jobs remain": Sonder Bikes owner Alpkit saved by new owner after entering administration
  • Man who punched cyclist, after spotting rider take a toilet break in woodland, found guilty of assault
  • "Ben is what we want as a leader": Healy signs contract extension with EF Education-EasyPost
  • "How would you feel about a random person breathing down your neck at work?": Pro cyclist frustrated by Vingegaard training crash, tells fans to ask if they want to ride on the wheel
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Jonas Vingegaard training crash (Image Credit: Pedro García Fernández/Strava)
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28 January 2026, 08:54

"I've never understood the hate for cyclists. If they weren't cycling a good number would be forced to take motor vehicles, further clogging up the streets"

We’ll start Wednesday with some reaction to a consultation in Westminster, the council asking for public views on some proposed changes to Bayswater Road. It would formalise some of the temporary active travel measures introduced during the Covid pandemic, as well as hoping to enhance cycling and pedestrian facilities in both directions.

Bayswater Road upgrades consultation
Bayswater Road upgrades consultation (Image Credit: Westminster City Council)
Bayswater Road upgrades consultation
Bayswater Road upgrades consultation (Image Credit: Westminster City Council)

The council proposes this could deliver a “safer, permanent, and continuous cycling connection” linking existing Cycleways C3 and C27 within Westminster, as well as providing a direct east–west route for people cycling along the north side of Hyde Park. Yes, readers from outside the capital are allowed to be jealous at this point, those jammy Londoners get cycle lanes to their cycle lanes. Of course, we’re just having a wee joke there and ideally cycling infrastructure would always be designed as a network of accessible routes that can be linked to cover entire journeys, but for many living outside of London (and some in certain parts of the city) that remains a dream.

That brings us to discussion around the consultation, with one local cyclist explaining that while “not perfect” due to the road splitting between Westminster and the notorious Kensington & Chelsea council’s patch (see the road.cc archives for why that particular part of town gets ‘notorious’ status), it would be “an improvement to cycling in the city”.

> “Is this a joke?”: Cyclists dismayed at council’s idea for painted cycle lanes where segregated infrastructure was controversially ripped out

While raising the profile of the consultation, the rider explained much of the discussion about the scheme had been “fuelled by hate and frustration, not by actual reasonable informed opinion”.

Now, perhaps the average Reddit user is less shouty than things appear over on Facebook because, rather than turning into a cesspit of anti-cycling bingo as this would on certain other social media sites, we actually got some sensible discussion. Imagine that?

First up, the reply that stated: “I’ve never understood the hate for cyclists. If they weren’t cycling a good number of them would be forced to take motor vehicles further clogging up the streets. Making a safe cycle lane (not just a painted line) promotes cycle use which brings benefits to everyone in health, emissions, economy etc.”

Sorry, I don’t think you understand how this works. You’re meant to incoherently shout ROAD TAX, HI-VIS, RED LIGHTS…

Bayswater Road upgrades consultation
Bayswater Road upgrades consultation (Image Credit: Westminster City Council)
Bayswater Road upgrades consultation
Bayswater Road upgrades consultation (Image Credit: Westminster City Council)

Interestingly someone else who got involved said they are a project manager who introduces cycle projects and similar neighbourhood schemes. Explaining the way consultations have gone, in their experience, they reported:

“Pretty much every in-person event has people coming in and yelling, suggesting we don’t listen (even when it’s a non-statutory engagement that we are using to get public feedback), people arguing about stuff not related to the project, people spouting conspiracy theories, people trying to get all attendees to vote on whether they support the proposals or not, etc. There are some people that come in and support the scheme or have valid concerns, but they often get drowned out by people shouting nonsense.”

Last week, we shared a new study from Cardiff University researchers which analysed social media discussion of cycling infrastructure projects, such as the one in Westminster. Along the same lines as what the project manager noted above, they found that outspoken criticism can often give the impression of more widespread opinion than is actually the case.

In a follow-up piece explaining their research, the authors wrote: “Protests and headlines may give the impression that cycle lanes are deeply unpopular, but most people – including both drivers and cyclists – support new infrastructure and even traffic restrictions, as long as they are well designed and involve only modest changes. Parking is a sensitive point, but overall support for change is broader than the noise suggests.

“Second, the strongest opposition comes from those who see new cycle lanes and restrictions as an attack on their freedom to drive. This group is relatively small but may be among the most vocal. Their concerns need to be acknowledged, but also reframed in light of the reality that limited road space must serve everyone: drivers, cyclists, and pedestrians alike.

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Cyclists at a red light 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Cyclists at a red light 2.jpg
Cyclists at a red light 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

“Finally, it is not just about what gets built, but also how it is introduced. Much of the online debate considered in our social media study focused not on the principle of cycle lanes or low-traffic neighbourhoods, but on whether local people felt they had been consulted properly. Listening to communities can make the difference between a scheme being welcomed as a local improvement or rejected as a top-down imposition. This should involve everyone and not just the loudest.”

Food for thought. Nothing like 750 words on public consultations for cycling infrastructure projects to kick off your Wednesday…

28 January 2026, 08:54

Will the law soon clamp down on illegal e-bikes?

Seized e-bikes next to police car in Wales
Seized e-bikes next to police car in Wales (Image Credit: Cardiff Council)
Seized e-bikes next to police car in Wales
Seized e-bikes next to police car in Wales (Image Credit: Cardiff Council)

You might have seen this over on our e-bike site ebiketips yesterday evening, a Labour MP putting forward legislation to ban the sale, marketing and supply of electric bikes which fall outside of Electrically Assisted Pedal Cycle (EAPC) classification.

While these are currently illegal to ride on public roads they are still often sold in the UK (without any of this info) or marketed as legal for use on private land. This legislation would outlaw their sale entirely and do the same for powerful conversion kits too.

During her speech outlining the proposed legislation to Parliament, Julie Minns stressed that “e-bikes, when they conform to the law, are a force for good”. She also said that EAPCs are “lawful, safe, [and] part of our future”.

However, the Labour politician also argued that online marketplaces and overseas suppliers often sell high-powered e-bikes and conversion kits with minimal checks, “scant” safety information and “no clear liability”.

“Too often buyers assume a product is legal because the website does not say otherwise,” she said. “We already accept that some dangerous items simply must not be sold to the public […] monster e-bikes harm and kill. This bill is targeted and proportionate. It will continue to allow the sale and enjoyment of legal e-bikes, but it will shut down the sale and marketing of illegal monster bikes and the kits used to create them.”

Thoughts?

28 January 2026, 08:54

Liam's checklist of things to learn

28 January 2026, 08:54

"Now is the time to speak up": Salsa Cycles responds to death of Alex Pretti by urging cycling community to "stand up"

 
 
 
 
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US bike brand Salsa Cycles has shared a post on social media condemning the death of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis and urging people to “stand up” against “neighbours being unlawfully detained, harassed and murdered”. Pretti, who it has since been revealed enjoyed mountain biking and was a popular member of the city’s cycling community, was shot by ICE on Saturday. He is the second Minneapolis resident to be shot dead by federal agents in the city in the past few weeks.

> “Alex Pretti was one of us”:  Cycling community pays tribute to man shot dead by ICE in Minneapolis

“Please take action if you haven’t already,” Salsa Cycles told its customers on Instagram. “Visit [the government website] to find your representatives’ contact information and advocate for change.

“Community is equally important in times like this. Alex Pretti was a member of our local cycling community, and our friends at Angry Catfish bike shop are holding a ride in unity on Saturday, January 31. We encourage you to come ride with us, host a ride in your community, or simply go ride in solidarity on Saturday.”

28 January 2026, 08:54

Surf Coast Classics cancelled due to searing heat and bushfire threat to be replaced by new Cadel Evans-branded criterium

Geelong Classic
Geelong Classic (Image Credit: Cadel Evans Great Ocean Road Race)
Geelong Classic
Geelong Classic (Image Credit: Cadel Evans Great Ocean Road Race)

The organisers of the Mapei Cadel Evans Great Ocean Road Race have confirmed tomorrow’s Surf Coast Classic races won’t be disappearing from the week’s schedule completely. They were called off yesterday with temperatures set to rise to 45°C and the threat of bushfires, but the organisers have now said there will be a ‘Cadel’s Criterium’ race for the men and women instead.

> “Extreme weather. Santos. The irony”: Fire danger warning and soaring temperatures see Tour Down Under stage shortened and Willunga Hill removed – days after riders urged race to ditch “embarrassing” oil and gas title sponsor

“Following consultation with Victoria Police, emergency services and key stakeholders, organisers have acted quickly to ensure that elite racing remains on the event program, with Geelong to host a fast and accessible criterium in city parkland on Thursday afternoon,” a statement said.

28 January 2026, 08:54

Swansea University to work with Ineos Grenadiers to "help transform elite cycling talent identification"

2026 Ineos Grenadiers Pinarello Dogma F riding
2026 Ineos Grenadiers Pinarello Dogma F riding (Image Credit: Chris Auld https://chrisauldphotography.com/)
2026 Ineos Grenadiers Pinarello Dogma F riding
2026 Ineos Grenadiers Pinarello Dogma F riding (Image Credit: Chris Auld https://chrisauldphotography.com/)

Could Swansea University academics help Ineos Grenadiers spot the next Tadej Pogačar? The Welsh university has announced it is partnering with the team to develop “cutting-edge” data and AI solutions “that could revolutionise how emerging talent is identified in professional cycling”.

Academics from the university’s Applied Sport, Technology, Exercise and Medicine Research Centre are expanding their existing work with Swansea City football club, Welsh rugby clubs Scarlets and Ospreys, Swim Wales and the UK Sports Institute, now moving into the world of cycling and looking to “tackle real-world performance challenges using advanced data analytics”.

2026 Ineos Grenadiers kit launch
2026 Ineos Grenadiers kit launch (Image Credit: Ineos Grenadiers/Gobik)
2026 Ineos Grenadiers kit launch
2026 Ineos Grenadiers kit launch (Image Credit: Ineos Grenadiers/Gobik)

The first joint project will see a dedicated PhD student explore how data-informed systems can help teams identify emerging and currently overlooked talent earlier and more effectively.

Ineos Grenadiers’ performance director Dr Scott Drawer predicts AI will be “the next frontier for the sport” and these projects with Swansea University “form part of a large portfolio of work with academia and industry to accelerate our understanding and application to our sport”.

This new project will integrate Ineos’ internal performance metrics with publicly available race data to monitor the development of junior riders across selected countries.

2026 Ineos Grenadiers kit launch
2026 Ineos Grenadiers kit launch (Image Credit: Gobik)
2026 Ineos Grenadiers kit launch
2026 Ineos Grenadiers kit launch (Image Credit: Gobik)

“By designing automated systems to highlight standout performances, the team aims to establish a digital thread that enables deeper insights into athletes’ training histories and progression pathways,” the university explained.

“With professional cycling becoming increasingly competitive — and with more nations represented at the elite level — teams are under more pressure than ever to identify talent early. This collaboration aims to streamline and strengthen that process.”

28 January 2026, 08:54

Police confirm U-turn on controversial policy not to investigate stolen bikes left outside train stations for more than two hours

Some news that’ll interest many of you this morning…

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Train station cycle rack signage 1 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Train station cycle rack signage 1.jpg
Train station cycle rack signage 1 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Police confirm U-turn on controversial policy not to investigate stolen bikes left outside train stations for more than two hours

28 January 2026, 08:54

Oxford gets its first blind spot mirror

Cyclox works tirelessly to suggest, request and point out changes which would make cycling safer in #Oxford. So, we are excited to say, the Council has installed their first Trixi mirror at Headley Way/ London Road so people driving large vehicles can see people on bicycles #VisionZero

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— Cyclox (@cycloxoxford.bsky.social) 27 January 2026 at 14:25

28 January 2026, 08:54

Salsa Cycles and Wolf Tooth join Minnesota cycling community in remembering man killed by ICE agents

Alex Pretti unity ride cover image
Alex Pretti unity ride cover image (Image Credit: Casey Robertson / @ogradycustom/Instagram)
Alex Pretti unity ride cover image
Alex Pretti unity ride cover image (Image Credit: Casey Robertson / @ogradycustom/Instagram)

> Salsa Cycles and Wolf Tooth join Minnesota cycling community in remembering man killed by ICE agents

28 January 2026, 08:54

Jonathan Milan powers to second stage win at AlUla Tour

Ryan might write you 200 words on the 2.Pro-level AlUla Tour each day but this is all you’re getting from this live blog grump. Racing in Saudi Arabia in January? Check back with me next month when things get interesting…

Jonathan Milan is on another level ??

A great lead out from his Lidl-Trek team-mates and the Italian wins at a canter in AlUla. pic.twitter.com/dAzK69v59J

— Cycling on TNT Sports (@cyclingontnt) January 28, 2026

28 January 2026, 08:54

"All our jobs remain": Sonder Bikes owner Alpkit saved by new owner after entering administration

Alpkit administration January 2026 (1)
Alpkit administration January 2026 (1) (Image Credit: road.cc/Alpkit)
Alpkit administration January 2026 (1)
Alpkit administration January 2026 (1) (Image Credit: road.cc/Alpkit)

> “All our jobs remain”: Sonder Bikes owner Alpkit saved by new owner after entering administration

28 January 2026, 08:54

Man who punched cyclist, after spotting rider take a toilet break in woodland, found guilty of assault

Ipswich Crown Court
Ipswich Crown Court (Image Credit: CC BY-SA 2.0/Geograph)
Ipswich Crown Court
Ipswich Crown Court (Image Credit: CC BY-SA 2.0/Geograph)

Here’s a bizarre one from the local papers in Suffolk…

The Stowmarket Mercury was in Ipswich Crown Court to report on Michael Bass being found guilty of assaulting a cyclist who had stopped to urinate in woodland. The court heard Bass had lived in a woodland area of Stowmarket for around three years when he attacked the cyclist in August.

The rider had stopped to relieve himself in the woods, on a footpath that runs between Stowmarket and Haughley. Bass confronted the rider, called him a pervert and accused the cyclist of touching his genitals in front of him.

He was found guilty of assault and will be sentenced at the end of next month, the court hearing how Bass wrestled the cyclist to the ground, straddled him and punched the victim in the face. Bass claimed he intended to arrest the rider and acted in self-defence.

28 January 2026, 08:54

"Ben is what we want as a leader": Healy signs contract extension with EF Education-EasyPost

Ben Healy, stage 10, 2025 Tour de France
Ben Healy, stage 10, 2025 Tour de France (Image Credit: ASO/Billy Ceusters)
Ben Healy, stage 10, 2025 Tour de France
Ben Healy, stage 10, 2025 Tour de France (Image Credit: ASO/Billy Ceusters)

Ben Healy and EF Education-EasyPost are sticking together until at least the end of 2029, the Irishman signing a contract extension with the team he has enjoyed so much success as part of over the past few seasons.

During his time with the team, Healy has won stages of the Giro d’Italia, Itzulia Basque Country and the Tour de France, as well as Irish road and time trial titles. He also finished on the podium at the world championships, Amstel Gold Race and Liège-Bastogne-Liège. Last summer’s stint in yellow at the Tour de France was a new high and both parties are more than happy to keep things rolling.

“I’m close mates with the guys on the team, and that creates an infectious atmosphere that brings everyone closer together,” Healy said. “It’s not just us guys, it’s everyone, all the staff. There’s not a race or a training camp you go to where you are disappointed to be there. It’s always good fun and the dinner table’s always a great laugh. We spend so many days on the road, so that is super important. It makes you work that bit harder for each other.”

Team boss Jonathan Vaughters has no doubts either. “Ben is what we want as a leader,” he said. “He is thoughtful and always seeking to improve. Most importantly, he is always willing to risk. Our team has and always will be built on the outsider willing to take a chance. Ben is that.”

28 January 2026, 08:54

"How would you feel about a random person breathing down your neck at work?": Pro cyclist frustrated by Vingegaard training crash, tells fans to ask if they want to ride on the wheel

 
 
 
 
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 Former Uno-X Mobility rider Magnus Kulset says fans jumping onto pros’ wheels during training can be “uncomfortable, and to some degree unsafe”, after Jonas Vingegaard was left bloodied by a crash on a descent on Monday while being followed by an amateur rider.

As we reported yesterday, Visma-Lease a Bike confirmed the two-time Tour de France winner fortunately escaped significant injury from the training crash near Málaga. The amateur rider who was following Vingegaard at the time suggested the Dane was “trying to drop me” and “got angry with me for staying on his wheel while going downhill”.

The fan also accused Vingegaard of not being humble. However, many of the replies to his Strava post followed the line of what Visma-Lease a Bike told us yesterday and urged fellow fans and amateurs to respect pro riders’ space and peace when sharing the roads.

Jonas Vingegaard training crash
Jonas Vingegaard training crash (Image Credit: Pedro García Fernández/Strava)
Jonas Vingegaard training crash
Jonas Vingegaard training crash (Image Credit: Pedro García Fernández/Strava)

Now, writing on Twitter, Magnus Kulset said the whole episode had raised a question in his mind: “How would you feel about a random person breathing down your neck at work?”

We’ll skip past the teacher who amusingly replied joking that “happens every 30 seconds”, Kulset going on to say he’ll “happily let people ride on my wheel if they ask”.

“If they don’t I feel uncomfortable, and to some degree unsafe,” he continued. “I don’t know how good of a bike handler you are, I don’t know how aware you are, I don’t know how safe in traffic you are. I have personally been crashed into by someone jumping onto my wheel, and that is so unnecessary and unfortunate for everyone.”

Jonas Vingegaard training crash
Jonas Vingegaard training crash (Image Credit: Pedro García Fernández/Strava)
Jonas Vingegaard training crash
Jonas Vingegaard training crash (Image Credit: Pedro García Fernández/Strava)

Here are a few of the top comments from our story yesterday (the consensus along the same lines as the points Magnus makes above)…

the little onion: “One of the joys of cycling is that anyone can serendipitously share the roads with the world’s best. I’ve bumped into many pros in my time, and had lovely chats whilst stopped at traffic lights with world champions. But this kind of behaviour is just verging on stalking.”

Rendel Harris: “Always a thrill to see WT professionals out training, especially when they are riding in a group and smashing it; we lesser mortals should just enjoy the sight and leave them well alone.”

OnYerBike: “You don’t sit on someone’s wheel without asking. Pro or not pro, uphill/flat/downhill, doesn’t matter. This is not just courtesy; it’s safety — if the rider in front needs to brake suddenly, you’re going to crash into them. 

“If you’re riding with friends or clubmates; it’s implied that the people on the front are aware of riders behind and moderate their actions accordingly — avoiding sudden braking, calling out etc. You can’t expect a stranger to do that without asking.”

mctrials123: “Amazing how many people have no concept that they are not the centre of the universe and that other people have no idea who they are, their intentions or capabilities. 

“I wouldn’t jump on a strangers wheel without talking to them first. I wouldn’t sit behind a woman for km on end as I know it might make them uncomfortable. I know that I am no danger to anyone but they don’t and its not nice for them to feel any danger or worry because of the unknown of the person behind them. 

“I wouldn’t want a stranger sitting on my wheel on a downhill in case I need to brake heavily and I have no idea of their capabilities or what either of us will do.”

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Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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31 thoughts on ““How would you feel about a random person breathing down your neck at work?”: Pro cyclist frustrated by Vingegaard training crash, tells fans to ask if they want to ride on the wheel; “I’ve never understood the hate for cyclists” + more on the live blog”

  1. mctrials23
    January 28, 2026 at 9:33 am
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    The irony of people thinking

    The irony of people thinking that building cycle lanes infringe on their right to drive when building cycling infrastructure is giving people the ability to cycle.

    You don’t have a right to drive. Half the people on the roads shouldn’t even have the priviledge based on their ability to do it safely and people also have just as much “right” to travel via alternative means without constantly dicing with injury or death. 

    Its still criminal how few pedestrian crossings we have in this country. Its OK though, the highway code says that cars should give way to pedestrians wanting to cross at junctions 

    What do we reckon? 5% of people know this and do this or am II being too generous. 

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    • the little onion
      January 28, 2026 at 9:59 am
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      Driving on public roads is a

      Driving on public roads is a privilege granted on the basis that:

      – your car is legally fit to be on the roads (i.e. MOT, insured, all the legal hurdles)

      – you are legally fit to be driving that car (i.e. right driving license, all the legal hurdles)

      Walking, cycling, horseriding on the public roads is a right.

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    • Bigfoz
      January 28, 2026 at 6:20 pm
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      Early this morning I took a
      Early this morning I took a rental bike to the station in Poole to get the train home. I used 3 cycle lanes (one of which disappeared when the road narrowed) and the controversial one that crops up on here regularly. In the execution of my 3.28 km ride, I was closed passed, left hooked twice, and had some neanderthal van driver yell to get on the path instead of riding in the marked cycle lane. There’s no helping some drivers. But I’ve no idea what the solution is unless we cull the bad ones, either from the licenced population, or permanently.

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  2. lesterama
    January 28, 2026 at 9:57 am
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    The sooner selling illegal

    The sooner selling illegal bikes is actually made illegal, the better.

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    • mdavidford
      January 28, 2026 at 10:01 am
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      Making ‘selling illegal bikes

      Making ‘selling illegal bikes’ illegal wouldn’t do anything at all, since the bikes themselves aren’t illegal – it’s the use of them on public roads that is.

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      • bensynnock
        January 28, 2026 at 12:34 pm
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        Retailers could be required
        Retailers could be required to only sell them if they had evidence of a genuine requirement for a high powered bike.

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        • Smoggysteve
          January 28, 2026 at 12:52 pm
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          How would you prove the ‘need

          How would you prove the ‘need’ for the recreational off-road use of a e-bike? Its a hobby. People shouldnt need to prove legitimacy of their need. Its a bike, not a firearm. 

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          • chrisonabike
            January 28, 2026 at 5:26 pm
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            Smoggysteve wrote:

            Its a bike, not a firearm.

            — Smoggysteve

            Quite true … only you’ve already mentioned one legal hobby item there which is legally restricted. Then there is booze (age), ciggies (same) …

        • mdavidford
          January 28, 2026 at 3:39 pm
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          bensynnock wrote:

          Retailers could be required to only sell them if they had evidence of a genuine requirement for a high powered bike.

          — bensynnock

          Would probably be simpler to just require them to be registered.

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          • Bigfoz
            January 28, 2026 at 6:13 pm
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            And riders licenced and
            And riders licenced and insured
            They’re basically emotorbikes, you don’t have to pedal them, and they go faster than the cut off

    • Smoggysteve
      January 28, 2026 at 10:15 am
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      Define what an illigal ebike

      Define what an illigal ebike actually is. There are after market kits you can stick on an otherwise perfectly normal legal bike that makes if faster than the 15.5mph limit. There are all sorts of other bikes that you can buy that are not ‘road’ legal but are fine for recreational purposes like quad bikes or scramblers etc. You could add in electric scooters. some are licensed and legal and others are not. But they cant be made illigal to sell since they are not marketed as being for the road. 

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      • Rendel Harris
        January 28, 2026 at 10:35 am
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        Smoggysteve wrote:

        You could add in electric scooters. some are licensed and legal and others are not.  But they cant be made illigal to sell since they are not marketed as being for the road. 

        — Smoggysteve

        Of course they can be made illegal to sell, you just need legislation that says it is illegal to sell any scooter or ebike that does not conform to road-legal standards. You might consider the analogy of “zombie knives”, they used to be legal to sell but illegal to carry, now legislation has been brought in making it illegal not only to sell them but to possess them, even if they are kept within your own property and never taken outside. Whether it would be fair or just to ban electric vehicles from sale to people who just want to use them on their own property is a point for debate, but it’s perfectly possible to do so.

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        • Smoggysteve
          January 28, 2026 at 10:43 am
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          Just because its illegal to

          Just because its illegal to use on the road, that isnt saying something is illegal FULL STOP. You seriously comparing a bike with a motor than may be perfectly accpetable to use ‘off road’ to a Zombie Knife? 

          Are scrambler motorbikes illigal to buy? Many are not road legal due to no lights, indicators etc but if youre doing off road scrambler racing what then?

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          • Rendel Harris
            January 28, 2026 at 10:47 am
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            No of course I wasn’t saying

            No of course I wasn’t saying they’re the same, but the principle is the same, if the government wishes to introduce legislation to ban their sale, possession and/or use then they can, you may think that’s not fair but it is the case and they can be made illegal if the government wishes and has sufficient support in parliament to do so.

          • hawkinspeter
            January 28, 2026 at 10:56 am
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            Rendel Harris wrote:

            No of course I wasn’t saying they’re the same, but the principle is the same, if the government wishes to introduce legislation to ban their sale, possession and/or use then they can, you may think that’s not fair but it is the case and they can be made illegal if the government wishes and has sufficient support in parliament to do so.

            — Rendel Harris

            I can imagine farmers getting extremely pissed off (more pissed off?) if off-road vehicles are made illegal.

            I think the idea of banning off-road e-bikes is a knee-jerk reaction that won’t accomplish anything. It’s misguided as presently drivers present a far greater risk to people, so basically it’d be trying to penalise a possible solution to having so much car-shaped traffic. If they truly present a major problem, rather than just being an attack on out-groups (a lot of illegal e-bike use on the roads is by “employees” of food delivery firms and often they are non-british or possibly refugees looking for cash-in-hand type of work), then the solution as always is to step up traffic policing.

            Currently, the police could keep watch on off-road sales of e-bikes and then determine if the purchaser is using them on-road, or alternatively they could swoop in on food delivery places and check the vehicles. Adding legislation is merely a “we must do something, this is something, so it must be done” and not at all a solution as that still relies utterly on the policing.

          • Rendel Harris
            January 28, 2026 at 11:13 am
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            As I said, the case is moot

            As I said, the case is moot and I agree with your general arguments there; I was simply disputing the claim that the government can’t make certain things illegal to sell if they wish, because they manifestly can.

          • hawkinspeter
            January 28, 2026 at 11:23 am
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            Rendel Harris wrote:

            As I said, the case is moot and I agree with your general arguments there; I was simply disputing the claim that the government can’t make certain things illegal to sell if they wish, because they manifestly can.

            — Rendel Harris

            Sorry, I should have put that in a reply to lesterama. And yes, governments can try to illegalise any number of things, but often it’s counter-productive.

    • hawkinspeter
      January 28, 2026 at 11:16 am
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      lesterama wrote:

      The sooner selling illegal bikes is actually made illegal, the better.

      — lesterama

      Well, that’s one way to ensure that we miss out on the tax receipts and criminal gangs get to make more money.

      Note that the bikes are not illegal – they’re just not legal to use on the roads which is similar to many other vehicles (e.g. trails motorbikes, 4-wheel ATVs). The answer is traffic policing which also has the benefit of applying to things like cloned plates etc.

      I honestly think that people are not thinking straight about this topic.

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      • chrisonabike
        January 28, 2026 at 5:31 pm
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        Again with the farmers – how
        Again with the farmers – how many of them are relying on ebikes? (Genuinely don’t know but don’t they prefer quad bikes for small tasks? Harder to get a sheepdog on the back of a Suron I’d have thought).

        My take is – these aren’t the end of the world and we don’t have to worry about making certain things impossible or that “well criminals will get round rules so let’s not make any”. Just tweak things to give the majority in urban areas where these aren’t really desirable (or high street retailers) a bit of a steer (by discouraging them).

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        • hawkinspeter
          January 28, 2026 at 6:15 pm
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          chrisonabike wrote:

          Again with the farmers – how many of them are relying on ebikes? (Genuinely don’t know but don’t they prefer quad bikes for small tasks? Harder to get a sheepdog on the back of a Suron I’d have thought). My take is – these aren’t the end of the world and we don’t have to worry about making certain things impossible or that “well criminals will get round rules so let’s not make any”. Just tweak things to give the majority in urban areas where these aren’t really desirable (or high street retailers) a bit of a steer (by discouraging them).

          — chrisonabike

          I used to work in a motorbike shop and we did sell lots of off-road bike parts (along with some ATV parts) to farmers. I can imagine they’d have similar usage for e-bikes now that they’re cheaper and more convenient.

          I suppose my main point is that laws already cover using off-road vehicles on the road, so it’s a problem of enforcement, not legislation.

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  3. mitsky
    January 28, 2026 at 11:33 am
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    Does the venn diagram that

    Does the venn diagram that includes Alex Pretti, the US’s 2nd amendment and cycling result in the guy who wears a top that says “armed cyclist”?

    https://bikeportland.org/2023/08/04/a-run-in-with-the-armed-cyclist-377783

    https://www.youtube.com/@ArmedCyclist

    Where is the NRA when the US needs them?

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    • hawkinspeter
      January 28, 2026 at 11:51 am
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      mitsky wrote:

      Does the venn diagram that includes Alex Pretti, the US’s 2nd amendment and cycling result in the guy who wears a top that says “armed cyclist”?

      https://bikeportland.org/2023/08/04/a-run-in-with-the-armed-cyclist-377783

      https://www.youtube.com/@ArmedCyclist

      Where is the NRA when the US needs them?

      — mitsky

      His bike reminds me of those scooters ridden by mods

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      • bensynnock
        January 28, 2026 at 12:32 pm
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        There’s a chap here in
        There’s a chap here in Southampton who rides around on an ordinary bicycle with about 30 mirrors like that and is always playing music on a portable speaker.

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    • OnYerBike
      January 28, 2026 at 2:26 pm
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      Their response has been

      Their response has been fairly lowkey, but NRA have had their say: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/25/alex-pretti-killing-nra-pro-gun-groups

      The venn diagram I can’t quite figure out is that of Trump supporters and people who are happy to see large numbers of federal agents roaming the streets.

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      • hawkinspeter
        January 28, 2026 at 2:44 pm
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        OnYerBike wrote:

        Their response has been fairly lowkey, but NRA have had their say: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/25/alex-pretti-killing-nra-pro-gun-groups

        The venn diagram I can’t quite figure out is that of Trump supporters and people who are happy to see large numbers of federal agents roaming the streets.

        — OnYerBike

        Well, Trump supporters are not likely to have a high degree of empathy, so until it affects them directly, they won’t care at all.

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  4. wtjs
    January 28, 2026 at 1:03 pm
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    Will the law soon clamp down

    Will the law soon clamp down on illegal e-bikes?

    No, because whatever the law says, the police will refuse to enforce it. We have all seen loads of the little drug-dealing, criminal bastards riding around wearing facemasks- and that’s up here in rural North Lancashire- in Preston and Blackpool you can’t miss them

    Too often buyers assume pretend to believe a product is legal because the website does not say otherwise

    There’s no shortage of law around MOT and VED. It’s many months since I reported HN21 VXB formally to Lancashire Constabulary. It’s well over 2 weeks since it was identified and reported at the Old Garstang Police Station, and then reported again while it remained for 2 days on a ‘2 hours and no return within 2 hours’ parking place in Garstang Centre

     

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  5. mitsky
    January 28, 2026 at 1:37 pm
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    Regarding the Oxford blind

    Regarding the Oxford blind spot mirror…

    It just occurred to me that the taxpayer is funding such infrastructure due to the manufacturers’ design flaws on large vehicles…

    Yes, I’m very slow.

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    • GMBasix
      January 28, 2026 at 1:45 pm
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      mitsky wrote:

      Regarding the Oxford blind spot mirror…

      It just occurred to me that the taxpayer is funding such infrastructure due to the manufacturers’ design flaws on large vehicles…

      Yes, I’m very slow.

      — mitsky

      You may be slow, but you’re making reasonable progress and you’re not causing an obstruction.

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    • grumpyoldcyclist
      January 28, 2026 at 6:19 pm
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      Yes, but either drivers won’t

      Yes, but either drivers won’t look in it or a reporter from the Daily Mail will campaign to have it removed as its ‘a distraction for hard pressed motorists’

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  6. mdavidford
    January 28, 2026 at 4:03 pm
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    Quote:

    Racing in Saudi Arabia in January?

    You’d prefer they wait a few months until it gets to proper cycling weather of, er, 40°C?

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  7. Bigfoz
    January 28, 2026 at 6:06 pm
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    Sorry. If you’re on a public
    Sorry. If you’re on a public road, expect to share it with the public. If you don’t wish to share, pay to get it closed, use a hired track. The other guy didn’t crash, in spite of not being a pro. Does that say something about bike handling skills? The case could equally be made that the amateurs ride was being spoiled by a pro

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chrisonabike 36 seconds ago

"But isn't this just the same as if people used their own bikes?" No, not just because it's a company dumping them in public space as opposed to people storing them at home much of the time. People are much more motivated to care about their own property. I also suspect that people owning bikes involves less moving them around via motorised transport than cycle hire schemes (though a study would help!) How to fix the "public space problem"? In NL where they have problems of success they've planning rules that require provision of cycle parking in new- builds. They build giant bicycle-stables in city centres and at public transport hubs. And there is a national "last mile" non-dockless rental scheme that's well integrated with that public transport (OV Fiets).

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chrisonabike 25 minutes ago

OTOH "less harm" because bikes - but wouldn't it be better not to have the issue at all?

in: “The cars on that street still use more parking space”: Lime bikes accused of damaging vehicles as “hundreds” dumped on road – but cyclists say there are “too many cars”; Cycle schemes part of “hidden agenda”; Pogačar the barista + more on the live blog
chrisonabike 26 minutes ago

It's almost as if a company intent on sucking up money at the expense of some public good was being given a pass on account of the mode of transport they were involved with... Now I'm wondering if we've seen this before?

in: “The cars on that street still use more parking space”: Lime bikes accused of damaging vehicles as “hundreds” dumped on road – but cyclists say there are “too many cars”; Cycle schemes part of “hidden agenda”; Pogačar the barista + more on the live blog
Rendel Harris 34 minutes ago

Sorry to go against your tone of "it's just annoying a few SUV owners" Ryan, but that sort of Lime bike parking is incredibly antisocial and selfish. It's not just blocking "a few SUVs", it's blocking other cyclists and making roads impassable for people with mobility problems. Imagine if you walk with a frame and need to use your car to get to work and you come out of your house to find you can't get to your car and if you could you wouldn't be able to get it out anyway. There's no excuse for it. Sure, it wouldn't do any harm to have more spaces for parking, that doesn't make it OK to just park where you want because there aren't enough. If there are no litter bins, is it OK just to throw your litter on the floor or should you hang on to it until you find one? We really do need to get away from the concept of defending Lime bikes and the way they are frequently incredibly badly parked and ridden just because they're bikes.

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kingleo 46 minutes ago

Cars have number plates, but it does not stop drivers from killing and injuring thousands of people every year.

in: “This is exactly why cyclists should have number plates,” says Mr Loophole – after “arrogant” cyclist fined £1,200 for squeezing between cars (while riding without a licence plate); Cyclist in outside lane of 70mph dual carriageway + more on the live blog
Jack Sexty 1 hour ago

Indeed, we had it confirmed by the CPS that it was death by careless driving.

in: Tipper truck driver with previous motoring convictions who killed cyclist in London avoids prison ‘by the skin of his teeth’ after trial that took more than three years to reach court
lemonenema 2 hours ago

"they can restore a heavily used Monarch to its former glory." Yes until parts are no Ionger available because it will have been 'updated' or discontinued in a couple of years time. Would have been good to have a few specs in the article, weight, width, length, profile, colours. I've had many saddles and can't say I've ever had a creaking one, it might turn out to be a very good saddle, but the replacement parts is a bit of a fad imo.

in: Peaty’s brings ‘full serviceability’ to its new Monarch saddle
OnYerBike 2 hours ago

@Rendel Harris It's worth pointing out that we don't know when those other offences were committed, other than the earliest was in 1997. 1997 is almost 30 years ago now. I do think there is a reasonable argument that people can turn their lives around, and so a misspent youth could be excused if he has kept his nose clean (literally and figuratively) for potentially 20+ years since.

in: Tipper truck driver with previous motoring convictions who killed cyclist in London avoids prison ‘by the skin of his teeth’ after trial that took more than three years to reach court
Bezzard74 3 hours ago

@mctrials23 Oh I could go on for days about irresponsible dog owners! Long/extendable leads, no recall! Sorry to hear your boy was scared! I love dogs, even though i've been bitten a few times (first time was as a postman, yes, it really does happen haha!) The last time was a yappy little thing called pickles, not on the lead, snapping around my ankles, zero attempt to recall by the owners - obviously i was known as Pickles for the rest of the ride (the bite didn't break skin, so no attention needed).

in: Sometimes, cyclists can be a**eholes too — and it’s OK to say that
mctrials23 3 hours ago

@Bezzard74 Berry Yeah, I don't want a hoof to the face and I appreciate that horse riding accidents aren't entirely uncommon and the injuries from them can easily be life changing hence the reason I am very careful around them. I was stuck behind a couple of riders for a few minutes the other night and they didn't realise I was there. I eventually made myself known and they immediately moved over and we had a nice exchange of thanks and pleasantries and went on our way. I can't imagine thinking that they were slowing me down so fuck their safety which is precisely the attitude too many drivers have towards us. And yes, utterly baffling when people ride horses in public that aren't able to do it safely. Same as dogs that can't respond to commands when they are off the lead. One of my boys was scared horribly by a dog that wouldn't leave him alone. Hes three and the dog was almost the same size as him. The owners weren't apologetic. He didn't hurt my child but he scared him and he completely ignored all commands from his owner. Some people just have no self awareness and dog owners especially don't seem to be able to fathom the idea that their dog is not wonderful and well behaved and scares people.

in: Sometimes, cyclists can be a**eholes too — and it’s OK to say that

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