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Luca Brecel wants to swap snooker for Ironman (Instagram/Eurosport)
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“People think it’s a joke but I’m serious”: Top snooker pro to swap century breaks for disc brakes, wants to compete in Ironman by 2028… and he’s jetting back to Mallorca during tournaments to train on his bike + more on the live blog

With all your news, reaction, silliness and more on this sunny Thursday, Dan Alexander is back on live blog duty as the weekend countdown begins
  • by Dan Alexander
Thu, Oct 24, 2024 08:26
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SUMMARY

  • Opening of new Dutch-style roundabout in Sheffield delayed until mid-November
  • Six-pocket jerseys and Shimano Cues... the live blog comments section is on fire
  • Court of Appeal to reconsider ruling on cycle funding cuts in England, with judge citing "real prospect of success"
  • A brilliant cycling-related tribute to Geoff Capes
  • I've got an hour to train. How much cycling can I do?
  • Police appeal for information about bikes stolen from children's cycling club
  • "You've really got to expect the unexpected": Driving instructor says "chaotic, distracting" new roundabout with cycle lanes, 36 traffic lights, and coloured surfaces has "too much to look at"
  • "Chris's story is likely to save countless lives. This takes my breath away": Sarra Hoy thanks public for support, as NHS England says Sir Chris Hoy's diagnosis has prompted near sevenfold increase in people seeking prostate cancer advice
  • That's news to us
  • A punny day of live blog action
  • It's payday! Tadej Pogačar signs extension with UAE Team Emirates until 2030
  • New Wahoo bike computer leaked that appears to have a built-in wind sensor
  • "People think it's a joke but I'm serious": Top snooker pro to swap century breaks for disc brakes, wants to compete in Ironman by 2028... and he's jetting back to Mallorca during tournaments to train on his bike
Luca Brecel wants to swap snooker for Ironman (Instagram/Eurosport)
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24 October 2024, 08:26

Opening of new Dutch-style roundabout in Sheffield delayed until mid-November

Sheffield will soon have a Dutch-style roundabout, although its completion has been delayed by a month until mid-November, the BBC reports. The infrastructure is being built at West Bar roundabout, the new layout giving priority to pedestrians and cyclists.

The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents (could do with renaming to collisions *EDIT* it’s since been pointed out that’s not road-specific ‘accidents’ but also home safety, health and safety courses, workplace health and safety etc.) but suggested similar roundabout design in the Netherlands had reduced serious incidents by around 46 per cent.

24 October 2024, 08:26

Six-pocket jerseys and Shimano Cues... the live blog comments section is on fire

I knew we’d have some fun with the Luca Brecel stuff…

Luca Brecel cycling (Instagram)
Luca Brecel cycling (Instagram) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Luca Brecel cycling (Instagram)
Luca Brecel cycling (Instagram) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Rendel Harris: “Well Mr Brecel certainly knows his way around the red zone and how to get into the break; presumably his bike will be equipped with a Shimano Cues groupset? Apologies.”

No need to apologise, that’s 90 per cent of what the road.cc comments section is for…

mark1a: “I certainly hope he’s able to chalk up some decent results.”

Clem Fandango: “I look forward to seeing him bridge across some gaps.  Something something successful break.”

the little onion: “He has a special range of cycling jerseys, with six pockets. Though it can be quite tricky to put things into them.”

That’s right, every time he wants to put his blue Park Tool tyre levers back in he has to get a red gel wrapper in first… okay, now it’s me that’s apologising…

24 October 2024, 08:26

Court of Appeal to reconsider ruling on cycle funding cuts in England, with judge citing "real prospect of success"

Cyclist in London cycle lane with bollards - copyright Simon MacMichael
Cyclist in London cycle lane with bollards - copyright Simon MacMichael (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Cyclist in London cycle lane with bollards - copyright Simon MacMichael
Cyclist in London cycle lane with bollards – copyright Simon MacMichael (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Court of Appeal to reconsider ruling on cycle funding cuts in England, with judge citing “real prospect of success”

24 October 2024, 08:26

A brilliant cycling-related tribute to Geoff Capes

The family of Geoff Capes yesterday announced the sad news of his passing, the twice world’s strongest man and British shot put record holder enjoying an illustrious sporting life that involved three Olympic Games, two Commonwealth Games golds and a European Indoor Championship. 

“A true legend of strength,” fellow World’s Strongest Man winner Eddie Hall summed up his legacy.

Well, Rouleur editor Edward Pickering joined the tributes and shared a link to one of Capes’s lesser known sporting achievements… when he “belied his terrible CdA to tuck away Everton goalie George Wood on a classy red Raleigh in the 1979 Superteams bike race”.

Brilliant.

24 October 2024, 08:26

I've got an hour to train. How much cycling can I do?

Zwift indoor vs outdoor header
Zwift indoor vs outdoor header (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Zwift indoor vs outdoor header
Zwift indoor vs outdoor header (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> I’ve got an hour to train. How much cycling can I do?

Thought I’d chuck this out just as I’m about to head off for a lunch spin, it’s too nice not to out there today. 45 minutes + change + shower = my hour. Worst comes to worst, going for a bike ride is a pretty good excuse for not being at back at your desk when you work for a cycling website. Sorry.

24 October 2024, 08:26

Police appeal for information about bikes stolen from children's cycling club

Salt Ayre Leisure Centre in Lancaster (Google Maps)
Salt Ayre Leisure Centre in Lancaster (Google Maps) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Salt Ayre Leisure Centre in Lancaster (Google Maps)
Salt Ayre Leisure Centre in Lancaster (Google Maps) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Police in Lancaster have appealed for information after a “large quantity” of bikes of “some considerable value” were stolen from Cog Set children’s cycle club, which is based out of the Salt Ayre Leisure Centre in Lancaster.

Speaking to Beyond Radio Det Insp Adie Knowles of Lancaster Police said the theft happened overnight (Sunday/Monday) and, although some were fortunately found nearby, the rest have been taken.

“The bikes are used by children and young people in the club and are crucial in giving them the opportunity to ride there,” he said. “Fortunately some of the bikes have been found nearby so please keep your eyes peeled for others if you frequent that area.”

The club offers a fun, inclusive, friendly environment for children aged six to 18 to enjoy riding bikes.

24 October 2024, 08:26

"You've really got to expect the unexpected": Driving instructor says "chaotic, distracting" new roundabout with cycle lanes, 36 traffic lights, and coloured surfaces has "too much to look at"

Milton Road roundabout, Cambridge (CamCycle)
Milton Road roundabout, Cambridge (CamCycle) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Milton Road roundabout, Cambridge (CamCycle)
Milton Road roundabout, Cambridge (CamCycle) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> “You’ve really got to expect the unexpected”: Driving instructor says “chaotic, distracting” new roundabout with cycle lanes, 36 traffic lights, and coloured surfaces has “too much to look at”

24 October 2024, 08:26

"Chris's story is likely to save countless lives. This takes my breath away": Sarra Hoy thanks public for support, as NHS England says Sir Chris Hoy's diagnosis has prompted near sevenfold increase in people seeking prostate cancer advice

Writing on Instagram, Sarra Hoy has thanked friends and the wider public for their “kind, thoughtful and helpful messages” regarding her and husband Chris’s health. On Sunday, six-time Olympic champion Sir Chris Hoy said his cancer diagnosis is terminal and he has two to four years to live.

Sadly, Hoy also revealed more distressing news for the family, as Sarra was also diagnosed with uncurable multiple sclerosis (MS), telling him in December of last year.

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by Sarra Hoy (@sarra.hoy)

“Completely overwhelmed by your kind, thoughtful and helpful messages,” Sarra wrote on Instagram. “Many people say they don’t know what to say — that’s ok, you don’t need to have the words — just taking the time to message has been like a soothing balm to the soul. Thank you.

“I’ve been told that men seeking advice about prostate cancer is up seven fold and that Chris’s story is likely to save countless lives. This takes my breath away.

“Life is wonderful. We are excited about the future. We have so many more adventures planned…. And I am so fortunate to get to do it all with Chris — the most incredible person I’ve ever met. Watching him on the BBC at the weekend was like watching a masterclass in strength of character, dignity and humility. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again — he truly is my real life superhero.”

NHS England confirmed yesterday that Hoy’s diagnosis had prompted a sevenfold increase in people seeking prostate cancer advice.

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by Sir Chris Hoy (@chrishoy1)

24 October 2024, 08:26

That's news to us

Express headline
Express headline (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Express headline
Express headline (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Interesting headline choice on that one. While you might be mistaken for believeing, given the wording, that a 20mph speed limit for cyclists in England has been passed, with £2,500 fines for those who break it, this is actually the same story we reported on Monday…

Cyclists in Richmond Park with London skyline
Cyclists in Richmond Park with London skyline (Image Credit: Simon MacMichael)
Cyclists in Richmond Park with London skyline
Cyclists in Richmond Park with London skyline (Image Credit: Simon MacMichael)

> Charity that runs London parks wants new laws to prosecute cyclists for breaking 20mph speed limit in Regent’s Park and Richmond Park

So yeah, it’s the Royal Parks (the charity that runs London’s parks) writing to government asking for an amendment so they can enforce 20mph speed limits for cyclists in Regent’s Park, Richmond Park and Bushy Park, not quite the England-wide “crackdown” that Express headline suggests. Oh, and there’s no word on anything beyond the relevant government department having acknowledged receiving said letter. Again, not quite the certainty of the Express headline. Anyway, I’m probably banging my head against a wall trying to point out questionable cycling-related headlines in the press…

24 October 2024, 08:26

A punny day of live blog action

More top advice for Mr Brecel… 

Live blog comments 24th October 2024
Live blog comments 24th October 2024 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Live blog comments 24th October 2024
Live blog comments 24th October 2024 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

24 October 2024, 08:26

It's payday! Tadej Pogačar signs extension with UAE Team Emirates until 2030

Tadej Pogačar rainbow jersey (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Tadej Pogačar rainbow jersey (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
SWpix (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Newly crowned world champion and conquerer of all before him, Tadej Pogačar, has signed a long-term contract extension with UAE Team Emirates, a deal that will keep the Slovenian at the team until 2030. 

“I am extremely proud to be extending my time here at UAE Team Emirates,” Pogačar said. “This team has been my home now the last five years and I truly can’t imagine myself anywhere else. The best moments of my career have come at UAE Team Emirates and that is a testament to all of the staff, management, teammates, and partners who all allow me to perform at the highest level.

“I’m really excited for the future. This team gives me the best chance at fighting for wins and that is exactly what I aim to do.”

Will there be any race he hasn’t won by the time 2030 comes around? San Remo? La Vuelta? Roubaix? 

24 October 2024, 08:26

New Wahoo bike computer leaked that appears to have a built-in wind sensor

> New Wahoo bike computer leaked that appears to have a built-in wind sensor

24 October 2024, 08:26

"People think it's a joke but I'm serious": Top snooker pro to swap century breaks for disc brakes, wants to compete in Ironman by 2028... and he's jetting back to Mallorca during tournaments to train on his bike

Snooker and Ironman triathlon, now that’s a combination you don’t hear about very often. Perhaps if this takes off we could ditch the swim for good and just require skinsuit-wearing superathletes to knock out a century break before proceeding to the bike leg?

Snooker’s world number six, the 2023 world champion Luca Brecel has got everybody’s attention by revealing he’s spent not one hour on the practice table this month ahead of the Northern Ireland Open (where he beat He Guoqiang yesterday) because he has “different priorities” and is “really serious” about competing in Ironman by 2028. No, really. In fact, he’s jetting into his ongoing snooker tournament on the day of matches, returning to Mallorca in between so he can keep up his training on a lovely looking Canyon…

Luca Brecel Canyon (Instagram)
Luca Brecel Canyon (Instagram) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Luca Brecel Canyon (Instagram)
Luca Brecel Canyon (Instagram) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

“It’s [Ironman] a really big ambition of mine,” Brecel told the BBC. “Some people think it’s a joke but I’m really serious about it. That’s the main focus and Mallorca is a good environment to train, a lot of the pro cyclists go out there. I’m going to focus on cycling and running for the next two years and then I’ll pick up swimming.

“A Belgian, Frederik van Lierde, won the Ironman World Championship in 2013 so I might ask him to coach me a little bit. That’s on the cards. For me being in Mallorca is not really about the sunshine, it’s about the temperature and it’s a good environment to train.

“It’s not about lying on the beach, I haven’t seen the beach yet, it’s all about training. I wouldn’t have practised anyway if I had stayed here in Belfast but it’s not always like this. Normally I’d just be at home, practise my hours every day, but I prefer it like this sometimes during the season, so it’s not always the same.”

Luca Brecel Ironman (Instagram)
Luca Brecel Ironman (Instagram) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Luca Brecel Ironman (Instagram)
Luca Brecel Ironman (Instagram) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Brecel also said that completing the Ironman in 2028 (with its 2.4-mile swim, 112-mile cycle ride, and 26.2-mile run) “would give me much more of a buzz than winning the World Championship” in snooker.

“No disrespect to winning at the Crucible because that was amazing as well. Just to complete it would feel like a win. I would love to do it in Hawaii, but I don’t mind where it is,” he told Eurosport after yesterday’s victory, before going on to explain his unconventional commute to the venue.

“The early flight this morning from Mallorca didn’t help,” he said. “Three hours, quite early, it was a rough flight as well. No excuses, but that’s why I wasn’t that sharp today. 

“I need four to five years to be sharp for it [Ironman] and my whole life is built around that now. It’s my goal and I will definitely make it one day. Ian Burns did it recently, not the full one but he inspired me. I have always loved running, I used to be a good runner so now I need to build it up again. Then my best friend got me into cycling, I have been doing a lot of time on the bike. I want to get good at those first and then perhaps in two years I will start the swimming training.

“I needed to lose weight – I have lost 11 kilos so far and I need to lose ten to 15 more. It would be good to be the first Ironman snooker player.”

Watch out Kristian Blummenfelt, he’s coming for you. Blummenfelt has backtracked on his plan to swap triathlon for a tilt at the Tour de France, which is just as well because, with Brecel swapping snooker for triathlon we would have had to find a pro cyclist to take up snooker to complete the sport-swap triangle… you’ve got more time on your hands now, Cav?

24 October 2024, 08:26

Controversial cycle lane “will close a whole load of businesses and cost jobs” claims mayor, as rival mayors clash over delays to infrastructure’s removal

Controversial cycle lane “will close a whole load of businesses and cost jobs” claims mayor, as rival mayors clash over delays to infrastructure’s removal

After previously uniting to scrap the cycle lane, the scene of a series of injuries to pedestrians and cyclists, Tees Valley mayor Ben Houchen has now claimed that Middlesbrough Council want to keep the infrastructure amid a funding spat

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Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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40 thoughts on ““People think it’s a joke but I’m serious”: Top snooker pro to swap century breaks for disc brakes, wants to compete in Ironman by 2028… and he’s jetting back to Mallorca during tournaments to train on his bike + more on the live blog”

  1. brooksby
    October 24, 2024 at 8:36 am
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    Met police to reopen

    Met police to reopen investigation into Wimbledon school crash (Grauniad)

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/24/met-police-reopen-investigation-wimbledon-school-crash

    Two children were killed and another injured when a Land Rover veered off the road and ploughed into the Study prep school [?? – brooksby] in Wimbledon last July.

    The initial investigation concluded when the Crown Prosecution Service found that the driver, Claire Freemantle, would not be charged as she had suffered an epileptic seizure.

    Nuria Sajjad and Selena Lau, both eight, were killed by the collision after Freemantle’s Land Rover smashed through their school’s fence during an end-of-year picnic.

    After the CPS announced its decision not to charge Freemantle, she expressed her “deepest sorrow” over the incident and said she had “no recollection of what took place”.

    A police spokesperson said of the decision to reopen the investigation: “The review has identified a number of lines of inquiry that require further examination and, as such, the investigation will now be reopened.

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    • Surreyrider
      October 24, 2024 at 2:03 pm
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      Not sure why you’ve added the

      Not sure why you’ve added the ?? That’s the name of the school.

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      • brooksby
        October 24, 2024 at 9:29 pm
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        I was drawing attention to

        I was drawing attention to the appearance in the story of another self driving vehicle.

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  2. Rendel Harris
    October 24, 2024 at 8:50 am
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    Well Mr Brecel certainly

    Well Mr Brecel certainly knows his way around the red zone and how to get into the break; presumably his bike will be equipped with a Shimano Cues groupset?

    Apologies.

     

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    • mark1a
      October 24, 2024 at 8:55 am
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      I certainly hope he’s able to

      I certainly hope he’s able to chalk up some decent results.

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      • Rendel Harris
        October 24, 2024 at 9:16 am
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        As long as he doesn’t get big

        As long as he doesn’t get big headed and go around putting too much side on.

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    • the little onion
      October 24, 2024 at 9:30 am
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      He has a special range of

      He has a special range of cycling jerseys, with six pockets. Though it can be quite tricky to put things into them.

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    • Clem Fandango
      October 24, 2024 at 9:47 am
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      I look forward to seeing him

      I look forward to seeing him bridge across some gaps.  Something something successful break.

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      • hawkinspeter
        October 24, 2024 at 10:00 am
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        Clem Fandango wrote:

        I look forward to seeing him bridge across some gaps.  Something something successful break.

        — Clem Fandango

        A judge told me that I had to stop stealing from snooker tournaments. Very well, but first, I’m going to take a rest.

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        • Creakingcrank
          October 24, 2024 at 11:11 am
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          Nice bike, but he does win a

          Nice bike, but he does win a lot of frames.

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          • hawkinspeter
            October 24, 2024 at 10:15 am
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            Creakingcrank wrote:

            Nice bike, but he does win a lot frames.

            — Creakingcrank

            I once played snooker against a U.S. police officer. They were easy to beat as they always go to shoot the black.

    • belugabob
      October 24, 2024 at 11:14 am
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      Predictably, folks didn’t
      Predictably, folks didn’t baulk at making puns…

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    • Paul J
      October 24, 2024 at 2:21 pm
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      Impressive he wants to
      Impressive he wants to actually compete, not just go for a spin.

      I hope he manages not to strike any pot holes. The state of the roads these days, you could break your frame if you strike one!

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  3. FrankH
    October 24, 2024 at 10:14 am
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    Quote:

    The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents (could do with renaming to collisions)

    It’s not the Royal Society for the Prevention of ROAD Accidents, it’s ALL accidents: people falling off ladders, people burning themselves in the kitchen. people injured in a variety of ways at work. The Royal Society for the Prevention of Collisions doesn’t really cover what they do. Anyway, the vast majority of road collisions ARE accidents.

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    • chrisonabike
      October 24, 2024 at 10:32 am
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      FrankH wrote:

      … Anyway, the vast majority of road collisions ARE accidents.

      — FrankH

      I’ve got a feeling we will be seeing some definition-sparring … I do note that the (historic) safety bodies for the various areas of transport use “accident” in their names:

      Marine Accident Investigation Branch, Rail Accident Investigation Branch, Air Accidents Investigation Branch

      …BUT the more recent * Road Safety Investigation Branch gets a slightly different name.

      TBH I think that we should just stick to calling incidents on the road “crashes” (including where it’s just one vehicle).  FWIW we should look even beyond “vision zero” (more of a slogan) towards a far more radical and holistic approach to safe (and convenient) travel like the Dutch “Sustainable Safety” vision.

      * So recent, that several years after being announced it doesn’t exist.  Something something plan for drivers…

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    • hawkinspeter
      October 24, 2024 at 10:53 am
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      FrankH wrote:

      Anyway, the vast majority of road collisions ARE accidents.

      — FrankH

      Predictable and entirely preventable accidents…

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    • Rendel Harris
      October 24, 2024 at 11:30 am
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      FrankH wrote:

      Anyway, the vast majority of road collisions ARE accidents.

      — FrankH

      An accident is something that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally. People driving on the road have a set of rules and laws set out in the RTA and the Highway Code to follow. The vast majority of incidents are caused by one or both parties not following those rules and laws, in fact I don’t think I’ve ever seen one that wasn’t. In the vast majority of cases one or both parties have chosen to ignore the rules/laws, so it’s not unintentional, and it may fairly be said that if people ignore said rules/laws incidents are to be expected, so it’s not unexpected either. So no, the vast majority of incidents are not accidents.

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      • Surreyrider
        October 24, 2024 at 1:21 pm
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        And a lot of excuses used in

        And a lot of excuses used in mitigation should actually be used as proof of guilt.

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    • Oldfatgit
      October 24, 2024 at 12:44 pm
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      There is no such thing as an
      There is no such thing as an “accident”; someone, somewhere is always to blame … either by what they did – or equally as important – didn’t do.

      Most collisions are the result of:
      – failing to look
      – inappropriate use of speed
      – insufficient stopping distance
      – failure to obey instructions [signs, markings, etc]
      – failure to concentrate on the task at hand
      – failure to understand the brief
      – failure to understand users needs
      Etc

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      • chrisonabike
        October 24, 2024 at 1:34 pm
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        Don’t forget:

        Don’t forget:

        – Poor choice of road design (making accidents more likely – here’s a not uncommon example)
        – Poor implementation (perhaps signs / road markings / lighting is inadequate or has deteriorated, or foliage or indeed buildings have grown up and are blocking the view).
        – Rules which don’t help (e.g. high speed limits on narrow, winding country roads)

        And ultimately:
        – Failure to recognise that humans predictably make certain kinds of mistakes or show some kinds of undesirable behaviour, and not designing around them (e.g. by separating modes of transport by speed / mass and direction, recognising humans get impatient etc.)

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  4. glenjamin
    October 24, 2024 at 10:35 am
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    One of the local Shefield

    One of the local Shefield cycling groups I’m in has noted that at present the new West Bar dutch-style roundabout doesn’t have the continuous red loop around – the red bits stop when crossing the car lanes.

    It’s currently unclear if this is going to be resolved before the opening, but if it’s left as-is it seems like it will undermine the attempts to indicate priority.

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    • hawkinspeter
      October 24, 2024 at 10:52 am
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      glenjamin wrote:

      One of the local Shefield cycling groups I’m in has noted that at present the new West Bar dutch-style roundabout doesn’t have the continuous red loop around – the red bits stop when crossing the car lanes.

      It’s currently unclear if this is going to be resolved before the opening, but if it’s left as-is it seems like it will undermine the attempts to indicate priority.

      — glenjamin

      I don’t understand how we always seem to have difficulty just copying other places. It’s like there’s some discussion about it and then a petrol-head will raise an objection about how it’s impossible to drive at 20mph or stop before a junction and then the design gets compromised.

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      • chrisonabike
        October 24, 2024 at 11:51 am
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        1) People don’t understand

        1) People don’t understand “who this is for” (as some posters here demonstrate).  People feel it’s for the cyclists of today – and who are they?  There are hardly any, and why do they need anything new if they’re already cycling?  (The few “I’m a cyclist myself” types tend to reinforce this – “it’s for nervous / incompetent cyclists, I go fast so I’ll continue to use the roads…”)

        2) People apply a “democracy of the status quo”.  As mentioned above – there are barely any cyclists.  Why should they get more money / space / protection – what about everyone else – we drivers and pedestrians?

        As for those implementing the changes – Chris Boardman touched on this in his recent talks [1] [2] (did I mention them?) – it’s about:

        a) The goals of the system – the questions we ask and what we measure.  Currently our “system” measures success in terms of motor traffic – and that’s pretty much it.  So if the changes e.g. lead to a slight increase in measured driving times / capacity * then this is categorised as a fail!

        * Initially – traffic evaporation is a thing – but it takes a little time.

        b) “belief” (because the facts and stats are all there, examples exist in reality which you can easily visit).

        Belief applies from bottom to top: as mentioned local people often don’t trust the authorities (with reason…).  They just can’t visualise the end result without that being terribly negative. They can’t believe they’ll be able to make those small changes and after they have that things will be better overall.  Or they are sort of in favour but just can’t believe it will work here.

        Councillors / politicians can’t believe that people will come with them on this.  Perhaps they feel that it just won’t help enough to be worth what they see as an unnecessary fight. ( Unnecessary as few are calling for this directly, no big companies are lobbying them for it…).  They either believe they’ll fail so don’t bother OR (in a few cases) they are overoptimistic and believe this will be easier to do than it is / will work if it’s done for peanuts.

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      • chrisonabike
        October 24, 2024 at 11:55 am
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        Plus all our planning /

        Plus all our planning / transport officers / road workers have been raised on providing for motor traffic alone.  If your organisation’s culture (for generations) has been “success = making more space for motor vehicles” that is quite a change to adapt to…

        There are apparently a few rules / laws which do get in the way of some kinds of infra being directly copied.  Although expert folks like the Ranty Highwayman have identified possible workarounds.  I think it’s more the case that people simply don’t understand some of the subtleties and just don’t believe that UK cyclists, drivers and pedestrians will be able to cope.

        We tend to come up with rubbish in the UK because there are additional constraints (like “do it for 1/10th of the cost!” and “you mustn’t have any affect on motor traffic capacity”) – plus of course people want to put their own stamp on things – to say “I came up with that!” rather than “I followed all the specifications exactly!”

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        • stonojnr
          October 24, 2024 at 12:15 pm
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          So many plans for roads &
          So many plans for roads & upgrades I see thesedays come with this “and improvements for walking & cycling” tag, which deliver precisely the opposite.

          I think there’s a tiny tiny fraction of traffic designers who get cycling & walking systems, the rest are all about capacity for motor vehicles that screw the walking and cycling aspects completely.

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        • GMBasix
          October 24, 2024 at 12:32 pm
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          Many might be quite surprised

          Many might be quite surprised at the extent to which planning/transport (they’re usually quite different things) officers try to achieve progressive results. The key barriers are lack of funding to achieve joined-up solutions; some old hands’ entrenched views (and the nature of their ageing hands coincides with decision-making appointments); conflict with the perceived political barriers and time horizons, as schemes are passed up to committees, elected departmental representatives, and the like.

          Funding often arrives with bids for schemes… have you got yours ready for the oven? Does it align neatly to the funding rules? That funding round might help one particular scheme, but that scheme depends on others to complete a network… without which it’s a little bit of a road to nowhere, or a compromise to a convenient node pending some more funding at an indetererminate point in the future.

          Don’t fall into the trap that all sides seem to overlook, of thinking that all officers at the clowncil don’t know what they’re doing. Instead, try working out who those are and find the common ground to agitate for better outcomes.

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          • chrisonabike
            October 24, 2024 at 1:27 pm
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            It seems at Active Travel

            It seems at Active Travel England they have spotted that actually lack of relevant knowledge / skill or even lack of sufficient officers tasked with delivering schemes is in fact a barrier.  Hence they’ve been focussing on capacity assessments for local authorities.  Not initially to say “you’re rubbish” but “look, you’ve got a low score – but you’ve only got 2 staff on this and haven’t yet delivered any big schemes.  So try doing some simple, cheap improvements first.  We’ll help you and you’ll get some quick wins AND that can help build up your capability”.

            Money is always an issue. Certainly (in ever straightened times) needs sorting at central government level so this isn’t “random tombolas for pennies” with no feedback on what was actually delivered.  It does need commitment to a sensible sum (like Scotland’s attempt, a significant fraction of the “road budget”) and a continuous funding stream.

            BUT ultimately – as Chris suggests – money is not the issue.  Where there is a real desire to get this done it can be.  Initially “good enough” active travel interventions can be done “cheap” where there’s the will (essentially reducing motorised traffic and reclaiming the road space – using planters and concrete blocks etc).  And if enough authorities are saying “this needs funding – not doing this is negatively affecting lots of targets but putting this in will generate a return on the money” it can be.

            Where there isn’t understanding that it’s in your people’s interest (and in fact in your own interest), no amount of money will deliver effective improvements.

          • GMBasix
            October 24, 2024 at 3:20 pm
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            That’s certainly true, but

            That’s certainly true, but there are some big-ticket items where cycling is engineered out of the final plans. Not necessarily because the coal-face officers don’t know what to do but because the budget to include cycling is squeezed &/or because a decision-maker become scared of the necessary carriageway take.

            the allocation of officers to specific active travel solutions is often limited; the broader understanding of active travel is there, though; the bottleneck is often at the decision-making point, and the good intentions of officers is frequently overruled (or anticipated and self-limiting).

            It has been fatiguing. The arrival of ATE and the experience gained by CB (together with expertise from the likes of Brian Deegan) at GM is a bright hope for top-down impetus and support. It provides the steer for LHAs to get things right – or at least to try for better.

  5. Hirsute
    October 24, 2024 at 11:11 am
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    From the local rag comments
    From the local rag comments
    “cycling is very unhealthy for the pelvic floor and nervous system.”

    Not really sure what it is supposed to do to your nervous system or what studies have been undertaken.

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    • S.E.
      October 24, 2024 at 11:47 am
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      “cycling is very unhealthy

      “cycling is very unhealthy for the pelvic floor and nervous system.”

      I notice some light balance issues sometimes, after staying for hours on the bike.

      Probably related to different body dymanics required to stay up, the same phenomenon is well known after spending time on a small boat, then returning to land. In French I heard the word “landsickness”. You just need some time to adapt… I have a wobble board at home and don’t notice more difficulties with it after biking, so nothing serious…

       

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      • NotNigel
        October 24, 2024 at 12:10 pm
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        Rolf Harris will be pleased

        Rolf Harris will be pleased your carrying on the wobble board legacy.

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        • GMBasix
          October 24, 2024 at 12:38 pm
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          Cycle training wobble boards,

          Cycle training wobble boards, now with incorporated power meters:

          “Can you tell what
          watt it is yet?”

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      • Mr Hoopdriver
        October 24, 2024 at 3:59 pm
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        S.E. wrote:

        “cycling is very unhealthy for the pelvic floor and nervous system.”

        I notice some light balance issues sometimes, after staying for hours in the pub on the bike.

        — S.E.

        Yep, that’s my excuse as well.

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  6. GMBasix
    October 24, 2024 at 11:42 am
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    Look, I don’t know one end of

    Look, I don’t know one end of a snooker bat from the other, but if he’s new to cycling, he’s going to need padded shorts: he’ll hurt himself without a bottom cushion.

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    • Rendel Harris
      October 24, 2024 at 1:55 pm
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      Best treat himself to a

      Best treat himself to a saddle with a cutout as well, he wouldn’t want to find the balls lying in an awkward position…

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    • eburtthebike
      October 25, 2024 at 7:15 am
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      Cue bad puns.

      Cue bad puns.

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  7. I love my bike
    October 24, 2024 at 12:45 pm
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    That’s a lot of bike stealing

    That’s a lot of bike stealing in Lancaster! Is bike stealing actually part of the club’s usual activities?

    Police in Lancaster have appealed for information after a “large quantity” of stolen bikes of “some considerable value” were stolen from Cog Set children’s cycle club, which is based out of the Salt Ayre Leisure Centre in Lancaster.

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    • Dan Alexander
      October 24, 2024 at 2:55 pm
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      ?must have left my brain on

      ?must have left my brain on that lunchtime spin…

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  8. Kapelmuur
    October 24, 2024 at 4:26 pm
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    Shot putters need a fair amount of fast twitch muscle, I remember that Arthur Rowe had a useful 100 metres time.

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    • Rendel Harris
      October 24, 2024 at 6:56 pm
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      Kapelmuur wrote:

       

      Shot putters need a fair amount of fast twitch muscle, I remember that Arthur Rowe had a useful 100 metres time.

      — Kapelmuur

      Capes himself was pretty good for his size: here he is running a 12.4 100m in the 1983 Superstars Past Masters when he would have been 34 or 35, apparently he could threaten 11 seconds when younger (sorry Facebook is the only place I could find it):

      https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=982268282449475

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“Insufficient, inadequate, circumvented”: Chinese e-retailer AliExpress fined €550 million for failure to enforce compliance checks against illegal, unsafe goods
“Insufficient, inadequate, circumvented”: Chinese e-retailer AliExpress fined €550 million for failure to enforce compliance checks against illegal, unsafe goods
The ruling could have serious consequences for the UK's import of bike and e-bikes that fail to meet trading standards
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City of London cracks down on poor e-bike parking, Fox’s e-MTB dropper, free e-bike rides for Mancs + more
City of London cracks down on poor e-bike parking, Fox’s e-MTB dropper, free e-bike rides for Mancs + more
Check out all this week's latest e-bike goodies, including Fox's e-bike specific seatpost, free rides for Mancunians, an inspiring journeys + more
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Police to stop using “bogus” e-bike speed test as charges against delivery cyclist who had £6,000 cargo bike seized and destroyed are dropped
Police to stop using “bogus” e-bike speed test as charges against delivery cyclist who had £6,000 cargo bike seized and destroyed are dropped
The bike shop that loaned the bike to the cyclist has also been reimbursed, with West Midlands Police now saying it will explore “alternative testing” after admitting the method used by its officers was “not accurate”
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vanRaam Easy Rider Compact Tricycle
vanRaam Easy Rider Compact Tricycle
Superb design for easy and practical riding if you're looking for three-wheeled electric assistance
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Specialized unveils Ultralight version of its genre-bending Turbo Levo R Ultralight e-MTB, shedding weight down to just 18.8kg
Specialized unveils Ultralight version of its genre-bending Turbo Levo R Ultralight e-MTB, shedding weight down to just 18.8kg
The Ultralight takes the lightweight full suspension electric mountain bike concept a step further, shedding significantly more grams than the other Levo R models. It will also cost you a cool £11,999, but at least that's a fair bit less than the range-topping Levo 4 Ltd (yours for £16,999)
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stiplady 10 minutes ago

I can't see anywhere if the driver of the silver Volvo was contacted for their opinion. It certainly looks like the cyclist slowed and moved to the left before considering their own speed and approaching vehicle and decided to proceed. I don't think I'd have chosen to pass in those circumstances, but also don't think it deserved that penalty. If the police are confirming that painted lines don't negate close pass distances, then I look forward to the many close pass videos of drivers passing cyclists travelling in painted cycle lanes without allowing the normal close pass criteria? With the double white centre lines and painted cycle lane in the attached image I should never be passed by a motor-vehicle on this short bridge?

in: Police say “not appropriate” to release close pass footage captured by cyclist fined £1,200 in viral clip
quiff 22 minutes ago

@sigirides as long as you dive for the kerb to demonstrate you were inconvenienced.

in: Police say “not appropriate” to release close pass footage captured by cyclist fined £1,200 in viral clip
the little onion 32 minutes ago

@sigirides based on my sadly all too large experience, there are many fine officers within West Yorkshire Police. And many who don't fit into that category, particularly as it pertains to cyclists' issues. The key issue is that the prejudiced, incompetent ones dominate, and are not corrected, constrained or checked in any way, so that cyclists cannot expect anything close to a fair and consistent treatment by WYP. As such, they are institutionally anti-cyclist.

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Global Nomad 34 minutes ago

so Shimano still avoiding leading the market, but rather coming up safely behind with a safe product. All good but hardly cutting edge, weights a bit high, width a bit narrow, cost a bit high...which is fine for their market I suppose, but they are being overtaken by others

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sigirides 39 minutes ago

This is a really important precedent, because it confirms that an oncoming car in their own lane CAN be charged with a close pass, even if the cyclist and the car remain in their own lanes. A cyclist riding in primary position could probably rack up dozens, if not hundreds, of prosecutions in an hour or two of cycling. Or, West Yorkshire Police are full of shit.

in: Police say “not appropriate” to release close pass footage captured by cyclist fined £1,200 in viral clip
quiff 46 minutes ago

"In a statement provided to road.cc, West Yorkshire Police also said it was “not appropriate” to release footage of the earlier close pass, the spokesperson stating that it would be “unfair” to the driver and not “strictly relevant” to the offence posted online." It may not be "strictly relevant" to the offence posted online. But the pertinent question is why they chose to post the cycling offence online, but not the motoring offence. That's "unfair". If they sincerely meant the message posted alongside the cycling clip ("It is important that all road users are aware of The Highway Code, are considerate to other road users and understand their responsibility for the safety of others"), then they should have posted both offences. To post only one looks very much like seeking to dissuade cyclists from making reports.

in: Police say “not appropriate” to release close pass footage captured by cyclist fined £1,200 in viral clip
mdavidford 50 minutes ago

Um, which is it then?

in: Police say “not appropriate” to release close pass footage captured by cyclist fined £1,200 in viral clip
Rendel Harris 52 minutes ago

So it's appropriate to cite the offence for which the cyclist submitted the video as a comparative that "proves" the cyclist's offence was far worse, but now it's not only not appropriate to show the video but it's not actually relevant to the cyclist's offence either? Right. Shouldn't you make a beeping noise when you back up like that, chaps? Does the cyclist still have the original footage? Nothing to prevent them releasing it so we can see the validity or otherwise of the police claims.

in: Police say “not appropriate” to release close pass footage captured by cyclist fined £1,200 in viral clip
mdavidford 1 hour ago

@quiff Yes - that's the bit I was referring to.

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the little onion 1 hour ago

Right then.... It's not appropriate? Why not? Is it because it shows that in fact the close pass received by the cyclist was not, in fact, significantly more than the distances shown in this (admittedly rather stupid) example of bad cycling? Are they covering their backsides after another blatant lie? Is this the same force that didn't prosecute a close pass on me because I wasn't in the dead center of a cycle lane, but slightly to one side to avoid a drain grate, and therefore I was "inconsiderate" in my cycling? Or who tried to prosecute me for swearing in distress when a driver deliberately tried to ram me off the road, whilst filming me? Or who actually wrote in a witness statement that I swear in the majority of the videos that I submit (a blatant lie which they know is false, but don't care. Shame I couldn't get that tested in court). Is this the police force who have a written policy - and I kid you not - of dismissing OUT OF HAND any complaints about how they handle submissions from cyclists who have previously complained to them. Is this the same force that can't see anything wrong with a close pass UNDERTAKE at speed, and refused to prosecute this incident; https://vimeo.com/1079291114/f8d5ab5f41 Or whose road safety unit does not contain a SINGLE cyclist (my sample size is the 6 who I've had the 'pleasure' of dealing with) amongst their ranks? Institutionally anti-cyclist!!!

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