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Police hunt for e-bike artist drawing ‘explicit images’ on the pavement; How to get your bike, money and left shoe robbed; Jeremy Vine writes Spectator article claiming cycling is right-wing; Fair Fuel UK get a lesson in polling + more on the live blog

It’s Tuesday and Dan Alexander is in the saddle for another day on the live blog
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Tue, Dec 15, 2020 09:11
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SUMMARY

  • Jeremy Vine writes Spectator article claiming cycling is right-wing
  • Gold Sidi Shot 2
  • Diego Ulissi to take enforced break from racing to undergo cardiac tests
  • Fair Fuel UK given a lesson in polling data
  • Your reaction to the Jeremy Vine article...
  • How to get your bike, money and left shoe stolen all at once
  • Road rage
  • Cycling UK's Christmas Games night
  • Handful of Twitter users can sway council decisions, finds data analysis of LTN posts
  • Police hunt for e-bike artist drawing 'explicit images' on the pavement
  • Vintage bike auction underway...
  • Bullseye
  • Western Australia Police not having much luck catching their e-bike graffiti artist
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15 December 2020, 09:11

Jeremy Vine writes Spectator article claiming cycling is right-wing

Who is this absolute buffoon writing in the @spectator that cycling is right-wing? pic.twitter.com/GOcDkIOqyt

— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) December 13, 2020

Jeremy Vine’s article in The Spectator certainly got people talking… The broadcaster and cycling activist wrote: “Cycling is right-wing. When you buy a bike you are throwing off the shackles of the state. No number plate, no insurance, no compulsory helmet.

“People think cycling is left-wing because a lot of left-wing people do it […] Cyclists are acting out of primal selfishness — we want to travel quickly and keep fit. If people cycled ‘to save the planet’, that would be left-wing. But in my experience most of us do it to save ourselves.” 

A second article, written by Paul Burke, was published yesterday on the topic. However, unlike Vine, Burke who also claims to be a cyclist — is far less comfortable with ‘cycling being right-wing’.

Burke writes: “I’m mortally embarrassed by it. Cycling is the exclusive preserve of the very few and the very able. As for cycle lanes, which pander to a tiny and privileged elite at the expense of the vast majority, they’re undemocratic and wrong.

“This morning, as I sailed down a wide and empty cycle line, I again felt my rucksack weighing me down with guilt and shame at the sight of those poor people alongside me; squashed against their will into 50 per cent of the roads they paid for. Helpless, gridlocked and trapped by authoritarian policies which suggest that their time — their lives — aren’t as important as mine.

“I’ve often wondered who they are. Some might be teachers late for school or NHS workers trying to get home to sleep after an exhausting night shift. Sometimes I can see exactly who they are; firefighters, paramedics and delivery drivers prevented from carrying out vital, possibly life-saving work. But if you’re one of those right-wing cyclists, how much do you care? Isn’t shaving ten minutes off your journey time far more important?”

What do you think? Is cycling political? If it is, does it have to be classed as left-wing or right-wing? 

15 December 2020, 09:11

Gold Sidi Shot 2

2021 Sidi Shot 2 Gold
2021 Sidi Shot 2 Gold (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2021 Sidi Shot 2 Gold
2021 Sidi Shot 2 Gold (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Sidi has launched these limited edition metal-shaded gold Shot 2 shoes for 2021. The legendary Italian brand said: “The slender structure of Shot 2 fits perfectly this semi-iridescent hue that has the power to make even the most grey winter days shine. A one-of-a-kind that cannot be missing in a cyclist’s collection.”

15 December 2020, 09:11

Diego Ulissi to take enforced break from racing to undergo cardiac tests

Diego Ulissi Giro d'Italia Stage 13 (screenshot)
Diego Ulissi Giro d'Italia Stage 13 (screenshot) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Diego Ulissi Giro d'Italia Stage 13 (screenshot)
Diego Ulissi Giro d'Italia Stage 13 (screenshot) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Diego Ulissi won two stages of the Giro d’Italia this year but has been forced to take a break from racing after doctors found an irregular heartbeat during a routine physical check up. The 31-year-old felt fine and had not been experiencing any issues but has been diagnosed with Myocarditis, an inflammation of the heart muscle. As a precaution, the Italian will undergo a period of rest for several months while his condition is monitored.

Ulissi said: “I cannot hide the feeling of worry and anger. I’ve never had any sign of it, I’ve always felt good; Fortunately, the team’s medical staff were quick to act and discovered this abnormality. I will take a break now which I hope will be temporary, bearing in mind that the priority is health, because life does not end with cycling.

“I have just finished what has perhaps been my best season ever, with a consistent run of high level performances from January to October which also earned me the Top Ten in the UCI individual ranking. I was already beginning my preparation for 2021 with the desire to build on last years results. Now, however, I find myself facing this unexpected situation. I think my state of mind is understandable for everyone.”

In January, Ulissi began the 2020 season with three top-tens and second place overall at the Santos Tour Down Under, before finishing ninth at the UAE Tour. After racing resumed in August, he impressed on home roads, with an 8th place at Il Lombardia before claiming two stages of the Giro.

15 December 2020, 09:11

Fair Fuel UK given a lesson in polling data

THREAD: A thread on research and sampling, and how the media use data and polling.

I can safely say from a decade of working with media, it is *highly* unusual for a newspaper to so heavily reference a self-selecting and homemade survey and present it as the views of all people. pic.twitter.com/mRfriUxmzJ

— Adam Tranter (@adamtranter) December 13, 2020

This thread by Coventry bicycle mayor Adam Tranter is a comprehensive look at the Daily Mail’s use of the Fair Fuel UK survey. Last week, Cycling UK accused Fair Fuel UK of running a ‘how much do you hate cycling‘ survey. Tranter explains how an ethical survey should be run, without self-selecting samples, and with representative demographics. It’s well worth a read.

The work above took several weeks to assess and analyse by professionals, and we didn’t close the survey early so that we could give an exclusive to the Mail on Sunday to suit the timing of their agenda.

Compare what you’ve read here with what you’ve seen from FairFuelUK. pic.twitter.com/iXwMddUWJP

— Adam Tranter (@adamtranter) December 13, 2020

15 December 2020, 09:11

Your reaction to the Jeremy Vine article...

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15 December 2020, 09:11

How to get your bike, money and left shoe stolen all at once

I’m all for a bike hack and most of these seem like a bit of innocent fun, who hasn’t considered sticking glow sticks to their spokes? But stashing a wad of notes inside your handlebars seems like a quick way to lose some money…

Using a Pringles tube as a bottle cage by cable tying your rear derailleur cable to the frame, instead of just buying a bottle cage was a personal favourite… I’ll leave the rest to the Facebook comments…

Fabian Werner said: “Great idea, don’t make your bike stand dirty, but run around with only one shoe.”

Ainslie Holland commented: “Ok one, you now only got one shoe. Two, now if you lose that bike, you lose all that money. Three, why not lock the bike up outside, or carry it inside, they are not that heavy. Four, that mirror thing will block your vision for the front, that’s not good, and should have put it on the bike itself. Honestly don’t try this stuff. Lots of these things are just not good ideas, and many are definitely dangerous.”

15 December 2020, 09:11

Road rage

After yesterday’s shenanigans at this junction, this happened today.

I completely accept that they had priority I was happy to slow to let them have it, but the verbal abuse was totally unwarranted and unprovoked. pic.twitter.com/w4jaquAUtg

— Robert W (@Chutzpah84) December 15, 2020

15 December 2020, 09:11

Cycling UK's Christmas Games night

Join our Christmas game show with star cycling guests next Friday at 7pm! ✨

Hosts @Anna_Glowinski and Lorraine Dixon are here to tell you about all the festive fun you can expect… 👇

Save the date: https://t.co/oKC9Fz2rjz pic.twitter.com/oEW7prKz3l

— Cycling UK (@WeAreCyclingUK) December 11, 2020

This Friday, Cycling UK are hosting a Christmas Games night with a festive online game show featuring some famous faces from the cycling world. Katie Archibald, Ned Boulting, Matt Stephens, Mani Arthur, Orla Chennaoui and Rebecca Charlton will be getting quizzed on their cycling knowledge with those watching at home able to join in too. 

Hosted by Cycling UK’s Anna Glowinski and DJ and cyle leader Lorraine Dixon, the event will also showcase some of Cycling UK’s campaigns and projects. The event is completely free to watch and will be broadcast on Cycling UK’s Facebook page and YouTube channel.

15 December 2020, 09:11

Handful of Twitter users can sway council decisions, finds data analysis of LTN posts

Southfields LTN in LB Ealing (picture Simon MacMichael)
Southfields LTN in LB Ealing (picture Simon MacMichael) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Southfields LTN in LB Ealing (picture Simon MacMichael)
Southfields LTN in LB Ealing (picture Simon MacMichael) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Forbes published this article over the weekend which shows how a small number of individuals on Twitter can convince others and councils that their opinions are mainstream. Speaking to the website, social media analysis expert, Jimmy Tidey said: “Factions often present themselves simultaneously as an oppressed minority and the silent majority.

“The filter bubble phenomena makes users feel that every right-thinking person agrees with them, and factions can build self-reinforcing logic uninterrupted by interactions with people they disagree with.”

Using his own social media analytics tool LocalNets, Tidey collected data on LTN arguments. He found that 20 of the most engaged users were responsible for half of the total for and against activity about LTNs. The article also suggested that council’s are being persuaded into acting on LTN complaints based off some of these accounts’ posts.

“A small number of people can make a lot of noise,” Tidey continued. “Some Twitter users engage in long threads with up to 40 users tagged in, allowing them to generate huge numbers of connections. Many anti-LTN campaigners couch their concerns in terms of their right to drive, or authoritarian threats to their freedom of movement.”

15 December 2020, 09:11

Police hunt for e-bike artist drawing 'explicit images' on the pavement

‘A man has used an electric bike to draw explicit images on the ground in Perth City’ is not a sentence I expected to read this morning… Police in Australia seem concerned about this offender who has taken to drawing cocks on the street with an e-bike. It’s the grown up version of what kids do at school on the desk when the teacher isn’t looking however, Western Australia Police didn’t see the funny side, releasing a statement that said: “At approximately 4:50pm on Monday 30 November 2020 a man has caused damage to the ground on Murray Street in Perth.

“The man has appeared to spin the wheels of an electric bicycle in order to draw explicit images with the rubber from the tyres. This has resulted in multiple images drawn on to the ground. Police have released a CCTV image of two men who they believe may be able to assist them with their investigation.”

Social media has been as sympathetic to the police’s appeal as you might expect…Callum Mclachlan replied: “You’re never too old to draw ‘doodles’.” 

Another commented: “Whilst I do not condone graffiti, I give him points for technique and ingenuity. An electric bike, very creative.”

And perhaps the best one, Allen Bell wrote: “When you order Banksy from Wish.”

This guy’s artwork is a good effort but it’s got nothing on Wanksy, the British pot hole vigilante, who graffitis pot holes with penis drawings so the council notice them…

15 December 2020, 09:11

Vintage bike auction underway...

Vintage bike auction Raleigh sign
Vintage bike auction Raleigh sign (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Vintage bike auction Raleigh sign
Vintage bike auction Raleigh sign (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The vintage bike auction that we shared with you yesterday is underway. This Raleigh sign went for £2,200, more than three times what was estimated. Among the interesting lots coming up at The John Maitland Archive of Motor Racing Photography & Library, Automobilia, Aeronautica & Historic Cycling sale is this Marriot & Cooper ‘Olympia’ Tandem Tricycle from around 1899. It has an estimate of £5,000-8,000.

Auction 01 (picture credit Lawrences Auctioneers)
Auction 01 (picture credit Lawrences Auctioneers) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Auction 01 (picture credit Lawrences Auctioneers)
Auction 01 (picture credit Lawrences Auctioneers) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

15 December 2020, 09:11

Bullseye

Mario Cipollini is angry. Here he launches his water bottle (both bottles) at the race commissaire in the 2003 Ghent-Wevelgem. Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwen were impressed by his accuracy. #cycling pic.twitter.com/vFUc6Uj4Y8

— Pro Cycling Memories (@ClipsCycling) December 15, 2020

15 December 2020, 09:11

Western Australia Police not having much luck catching their e-bike graffiti artist

e-bike artist (WA Police)
e-bike artist (WA Police) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
e-bike artist (WA Police)
e-bike artist (WA Police) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

It doesn’t seem like Western Australia Police are having much luck catching their pavement defacing e-bike artist…More helpful Facebook commenters have come forward to help the investigation. Chris Collier said: “I confess. It was me that did the electric bike burnout dicks. Throw the book at me.” Martin Willott has a new hero…. He posted: “Guy sounds like a legend to be honest.”

At least the police could rely on Reddit to aid their very serious inquiries into the man’s identity… Or not. Reciting that famous line, one person said: ‘Not all heroes wear capes, some wear suits and draw dicks’…

15 December 2020, 09:11

Near Miss of the Day 512: Cyclist given camera last Christmas – and the close passes mount up (+ 7 videos)

Near Miss of the Day 512: Cyclist given camera last Christmas – and the close passes mount up (+ 7 videos)

Our regular series featuring close passes from around the country - today it's Hampshire

15 December 2020, 09:11

Wheelie cyclist fined £100 for dangerous cycling

Wheelie cyclist fined £100 for dangerous cycling

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Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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35 thoughts on “Police hunt for e-bike artist drawing ‘explicit images’ on the pavement; How to get your bike, money and left shoe robbed; Jeremy Vine writes Spectator article claiming cycling is right-wing; Fair Fuel UK get a lesson in polling + more on the live blog”

  1. PRSboy
    December 15, 2020 at 9:32 am
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    It would be good if the

    It would be good if the Australian police put as much effort into clamping down on dangerous driving around cyclists…

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  2. billymansell
    December 15, 2020 at 9:54 am
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    Jeremy is a tease.

    Jeremy is a tease.

    The cumulative heads of the Gammonati who read the Spectator to be outraged and have their prejudices confirmed will be in meltdown at the merest suggestion that the cyclists are part of their right-wing collective.

    Do they now have to cycle to embrace their new brethren?

    Do they have to now accept their beliefs about cyclists needing ‘road tax’, insurance and plates are null and void?

    How will the realisation of becoming happier and healthier through cycling sit with what they see as their core strengths of perpetual outrage and seething hate?

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  3. HarrogateSpa
    December 15, 2020 at 9:56 am
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    Paul Burke: “Cycling is the

    Paul Burke: “Cycling is the exclusive preserve of the very few and the very able.”

    How does he explain the Netherlands then? People who are incapable of basic rational thought should not be given space in national magazines to express their idiotic thoughts.

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  4. OnYerBike
    December 15, 2020 at 10:10 am
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    I don’t think anything is

    I don’t think anything is completely apolitical. As for cycling:

    I think cycling is a fast, cheap and healthy way to get around which is why I want to be able to do it safely = right wing?

    I think cycling is a fast, cheap and healthy way to get around which is why I want everyone to be able to do it safely = left wing?

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  5. the little onion
    December 15, 2020 at 10:17 am
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    Lots of political movements

    Lots of political movements have claimed cycling as belonging to them

    Right wingers as being about freedom

    Left wingers as being about equality (e.g. the Clarion cycling clubs were explicitly socialist)

    Greens, obviously

    Most interesting is the long history of the early feminist and suffragette movement really embracing cycling as a key means in increasing women’s freedom, not least the geographical distances they could include in their lives.

     

    Cycling can be right wing. And left wing. And everything else. 

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    • mdavidford
      December 15, 2020 at 11:33 am
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      Exactly – it isn’t inherently

      Exactly – it isn’t inherently left- or right-wing – it goes in cycles…

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  6. EddyBerckx
    December 15, 2020 at 10:18 am
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    Nice bit of trolling by

    Nice bit of trolling by Jeremy. 

    The other guy is a total melon though.

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  7. Rich_cb
    December 15, 2020 at 10:25 am
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    I like the Jeremy Vine
    I like the Jeremy Vine article, it’s very clever.

    I’ve always thought being ‘right wing’ was believing in a smaller state and more personal responsibility.

    Cycling fits in with that but I’ve never considered it a right wing activity before.

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  8. Shake
    December 15, 2020 at 10:40 am
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    I’ve heard similar sentiments

    I’ve heard similar sentiments being said about renewalble energy as well. The idea of not relying on energy from other countrys being a right-wing idealism.

    That being said, being left-wing myself, I think breathing is very left-wing

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  9. Mungecrundle
    December 15, 2020 at 10:52 am
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    And there was me thinking

    And there was me thinking that cycling was about being a practical way for me to get to work most days and to get out and enjoy some fresh air and exercise in the local countryside at the weekends. Not to mention a bit of social life with other like minded people.

    What I like about cycling is that it is so inclusive. Round my way at weekends you see old, young, fit, overweight, men, women, racing bikes, shoppers, ebikes, kids on trailers, people riding 100Km and those happy to ride to the local cafe and back.

    Didn’t realise I was manning the barricades for some sort of political revolution of whatever ideology. If there is a political spin then it has to be ensuring that local government are in a position to create the active travel infrastructure that is accesible to more people so that they can also enjoy the everyday benefits of cycling and the freedom that it brings.

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  10. hawkinspeter
    December 15, 2020 at 10:55 am
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    It seems divisive to me to

    It seems divisive to me to claim that cycling is either left or right wing – it’s just a cheap, effective, healthy way of getting from A-to-B. To classify it as a being of a political viewpoint is just projecting your own views onto it.

    Is walking left-wing or right-wing? It’s a nonsense question.

    Now, where politics does come into play is allocating space and money to the different activities such as walking, cycling and driving.

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  11. PRSboy
    December 15, 2020 at 10:57 am
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    I cycle because I like the

    I cycle because I like the feeling of going fast under my own steam, and I like the feel of a bike, the whirr of the drivetrain and the hum of the wheels.  I can’t say I’ve ever given the ‘politics’ of it a thought.

    The real beauty of cycling is how it is a very non-selfish pursuit.  Just for example, the vehicles using a road make bothersome noise and pollution to everyone near it, whereas a cyclist bothers no-one, except possibly a motorist temporarily held up.

    Taking Burke’s argument, it is not the cycle lane that is the problem, but the other drivers who are causing the congestion.  Taking the same argument, someone walking through Hyde Park should feel guilty as that space could be used for more roads.  And I can’t believe he doesn’t realise that he’s also paid for those roads, through his taxes.  The question is why cyclists can’t use motorways, which they’ve paid for.

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  12. Seagull2
    December 15, 2020 at 12:00 pm
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    As the saying goes , you are

    As the saying goes , you are not in traffic, you ARE traffic .  There are people who have little or no choice but to travel in a car.  As a cyclist I am doing them a favour by cycling, because i have to use the road but i am using much less of it and delaying no-one by any considerable amount compared to delays caused by multiple other vehicular traffic.  I could take my car ( which i sometimes do) but there i am, 72 kg of white male in a car built to carry 5 people, taking up far too much road space. I recently looked at buying a second hand Renault Twizy, to reduce the space i use, but that could allow me collect my only child from whatever activity if weather bad – however the 2nd hand price of these vehicles is insane ( 6K + , i sh*t you not ) .  Get the politicians to massively incentivize small 1 or 2 person electric city cars to get better efficencies on our roads,  and more street legal e-bikes, and more cycle lanes,  and everyone benefits , except Jeremy Clarkson – now that’s a WIN   

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    • David9694
      December 16, 2020 at 7:52 am
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      Seagull2 wrote:

      There are people who have little or no choice but to travel in a car.  As a cyclist I am doing them a favour by cycling…

      — Seagull2

      the “I can’t possibly cycle/ I must go by car / I’ve got no choice” gets hugely exaggerated, I think. Exaggerated and also used in all the what-aboutery. Too knackered to cycle after work – but somehow fine to drive a car, for example.

      You are indeed doing them a favour – e.g. one less competitor for a parking space – obviously no speed /road space benefits as you “hold up the traffic”. 

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  13. David9694
    December 15, 2020 at 3:35 pm
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    I thought the Jeremy Vine

    I thought the Jeremy Vine Spectator piece was a clever attempt with this particualr demographic to take their supposed laissez-faire, right-wing values and relate them to the individual freedom that cycling gives. 

    Scrodinger’s middle aged, middle class man – cycling his Storck, or in his white soft top BMW with I AM FUN as his personalised plate? 

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  14. mdavidford
    December 15, 2020 at 3:56 pm
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    It’s a war on ducks out there

    It’s a war on ducks out there. All these toucans, puffins, and pelicans all get dedicated infrastructure built for them, while the government is just trying to force ducks off the road!

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    • NZ Vegan Rider
      December 15, 2020 at 7:44 pm
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      Ha!

      Ha!

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    • eburtthebike
      December 15, 2020 at 10:14 pm
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      mdavidford wrote:

      It’s a war on ducks out there. All these toucans, puffins, and pelicans all get dedicated infrastructure built for them, while the government is just trying to force ducks off the road!

      — mdavidford

      Pluck them.

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    • Rick_Rude
      December 16, 2020 at 11:47 am
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      Duck didn’t have hi-viz or a

      Duck didn’t have hi-viz or a helmet. It was asking for it. 

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  15. EddyBerckx
    December 15, 2020 at 4:28 pm
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    that 5 minute hack thing is

    that 5 minute hack thing is EPIC!!!

    Epically BAD!!

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    • TheBillder
      December 15, 2020 at 6:39 pm
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      Don’t you zip tie all those
      Don’t you zip tie all those wires on your bike to the frame then?

      Actually… Despite all the hilarity, I am a bit taken with the chain brush made of two old toothbrushes. Obv for a proper bike you’d be using Braun Oral B electronicals.

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      • ktache
        December 16, 2020 at 7:03 pm
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        I tried the double toothbrush

        I tried the double toothbrush thing, I was very disappointed, single toothbrush either side was much more useful.

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  16. ChrisB200SX
    December 15, 2020 at 8:37 pm
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    I see that the cyclist

    I see that the cyclist Australia’s most wanted is creating doodles so offensive that the Police are actively sharing images showing the offensive doodles in an attempt to catch the most hardened criminal. </facepalm>

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    • eburtthebike
      December 16, 2020 at 8:18 am
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      ChrisB200SX wrote:

      I see that the cyclist Australia’s most wanted is creating doodles so offensive that the Police are actively sharing images showing the offensive doodles in an attempt to catch the most hardened criminal. </facepalm>

      — ChrisB200SX

      Being Australia, they want to fine him for his lack of helmet.

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  17. eburtthebike
    December 15, 2020 at 10:20 pm
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    How to get your bike, money

    How to get your bike, money and left shoe stolen all at once

    The funniest thing in the 5 minute hack vid was making your own water bottle cage, and putting the cable ties on top of the gear cables.

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  18. Jenova20
    December 16, 2020 at 11:28 am
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    “Burke writes: “I’m mortally

    “Burke writes: “I’m mortally embarrassed by it. Cycling is the exclusive preserve of the very few and the very able.”

    No. Cycling is available to everyone with working arms and legs. Also known as the majority.

    “This morning, as I sailed down a wide and empty cycle line, I again felt my rucksack weighing me down with guilt and shame at the sight of those poor people alongside me; squashed against their will into 50 per cent of the roads they paid for.”

    Everyone paid for those roads. Even people who don’t drive. We haven’t had a “road tax” for nearly 100 years.

    This guy is a burke by name, and nature, and his arguments are pathetic.

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    • mdavidford
      December 16, 2020 at 12:20 pm
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      Jenova20 wrote:

      No. Cycling is available to everyone with working arms and legs. Also known as the majority.

      — Jenova20

      Arms or legs, to be more accurate.

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      • ktache
        December 16, 2020 at 7:02 pm
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        Though I also understand that

        Though I also understand that the bicycle is also useable by people with less than 2 arms or legs.

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        • Jenova20
          December 17, 2020 at 11:02 am
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          ktache wrote:

          Though I also understand that the bicycle is also useable by people with less than 2 arms or legs.

          — ktache

          Yeah, but i didn’t want to make it a large paragraph about specially adapted bicycles. My point is intact for the most part.

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          • ktache
            December 17, 2020 at 9:02 pm
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            Not trying to pick holes mate

            Not trying to pick holes mate, just trying to go the extra mile with the inclusiveness of cycling, I have seen people who have seem to have great difficulty wallking who are very capable of nipping about on tricycles.

          • Jenova20
            December 22, 2020 at 9:54 am
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            ktache wrote:

            Not trying to pick holes mate, just trying to go the extra mile with the inclusiveness of cycling, I have seen people who have seem to have great difficulty wallking who are very capable of nipping about on tricycles.

            — ktache

            No offence meant or taken. It’s hard to judge tone on the internet.

  19. ktache
    December 16, 2020 at 12:32 pm
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    Cycling cannot be that right

    Cycling cannot be that right wing and have both the Telegraph and the Mail so against it, and for the Guardian to be pretty much pro bicycle and cycling and to have a Bike Blog.

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    • David9694
      December 16, 2020 at 2:38 pm
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      Under the normalisation of

      Under the normalisation of the car, it is many people’s idea of “common sense” – to drive to the local shops in your Range Rover.  

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      • Jenova20
        December 16, 2020 at 4:17 pm
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        Many of these would happily

        Many of these would happily fly to the corner shop if they had a private jet.

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        • David9694
          December 17, 2020 at 6:57 pm
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          How about an e-scooter? 

          How about an e-scooter? 
          I’m by no means super-fit or trim, but with these dark nights, wfh in the day, I’m feeling terribly under-exercised and am glad to get a few hundred steps in with a walk down to the village shop.
          Yet so many people jump in their cars expressly to avoid this. I don’t get it – I don’t think they’re flingingvthemsrlves around the gym. 

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60somethingcyclist 15 hours ago

@chrisonabike True, things went back to normal once the pandemic was over. In this case, however the problems are still ongoing, and aren't likely to be resolved in the near future. If anything, they're going to get worse. Food shortages are predicted because of the effect that the heatwave has had on crops. This is bound to push prices up. The Straits of Hormuz aren't likely to reopen anytime soon and the strategic oil reserves are running low. Russia is having to import petrol because its own refineries have been badly hit, so that's even more competition for an even more scarce resource. I think that more and more people are going to see cycling as a way of cutting household bills.

in: “Urgent need for stronger action”: Extreme heatwaves prompt fresh calls for UK government to prioritise cycling for short journeys
chrisonabike 16 hours ago

I think if "grown up" cyclists * are quibbling about ASLs we've very much missed the road safety point anyway. (Not to mention the wider "better transport choices" picture). ASLs are poor-to-useless "cycling infra", even for their design intent. If the idea is "for less confident cyclists" then a design that requires that you re-position in front of the motor traffic - waiting to accelerate - seems unhelpful. Of course they're only designed to help when traffic is stopped, and you can reach the front in time and if vehicles aren't already occupying them. As we're noting here drivers frequently ignore them - whether that be deliberate, a lack of road craft, because they were concentrating on following the vehicle in front, or because the paint has rubbed off. * Aside: shouldn't cycling also be safe and accessible for kids? Or should they only be allowed to do this when accompanied by sufficient qualified adults? Or be limited to parks and otherwise being driven around by their carers? Perhaps there is another way...?

in: Camera cyclist Dave Sherry laughed at by GB News presenters for correctly pointing out speed limits do not apply to cyclists during 20mph ‘debate’
Ben Graham 17 hours ago

Hi Bungle, I saw you follow-up comment. I can't imaging there's a tolerance of 4 seconds on camera enforced lights, seems an odd decision - an offence is committed if a vehicle starts crossing on a red, any tolerance is discretionary. There does seem to be some odd thinking about 'advanced stop lines' where the rules relating to them are identical to a regular stop line, as explained correctly elsewhere in the Highway Code. It does seem a regular offence. Where I live it doesn't help that some of them are very faint and disappear in rain.

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Rendel Harris 18 hours ago

@ktache Not sure he's totally ruled out of the worlds yet (though I think it would be best if he doesn't), normal recovery time is about eight weeks but surgery can halve that...depending on the nature of the break he could be just about fit to ride by the time of the elite men's race, but he'll have missed a lot of training. Hopefully his managers and team will persuade him to wait until Lombardia, if not just to knock it off for the rest of the year.

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Rendel Harris 19 hours ago

@Bungle_52 The Met told me a couple of years ago when rejecting a submission that they needed a clear three seconds of red visible before they would consider it for an RLJ prosecution. I pointed out to them that this meant that at 30 mph a driver could see a light change to red from 40 metres away and still get through without sanction, or 55 m if they accelerated to 40 as most do. They just replied "them's our rules..."

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Bungle_52 19 hours ago

@Ben Graham I have just checked the footage from my report. The driver crosses the 1st stop line 4 seconds after the light turns red. All on camera from behind the vehicle. No further action. So I assume the margin is at least 4 seconds.

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chrisonabike 20 hours ago

Oh, and active travel funding per head (in England at least) is laughable compared to other places. Plus it is delivered intermittently. It's more like a Blue Peter contest...

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chrisonabike 20 hours ago

Yup, I see those opportunities being missed all the time in Edinburgh. When it gets really bad, dig it all up and put it back down again how it was. Contrast with what seems to happen in NL - when things are dug up the whole thing seems to get a "let's redo this according to the current standards" treatment. They even coordinate with the utilities, so that after a refurb the street isn't immediately dug up again because of leaking pipes / we suddenly realised the new estate being planned for round the corner will want broadband etc. Pros and cons of course - you may wait longer there for changes as smaller changes may be deferred until a major redo is due. (Though in the UK case you likely wouldn't get them at all...) It seems we "can't have nice things" in the UK in part because a) we have greater motor traffic speeds/volumes spead across "streets" / within urban areas b) the funding and organisational responsibility differs. Are we in the "Sam Vimes boots" territory (being too poor to afford better products which not only save money over time but actually work)? There is long term money pressure on LAs and it seems that due to poor construction and maintenance we have to regularly pour money into (pot-)holes in the road. And it seems there's no budget to check up on or enforce adequate standards from utilities work or even private building.

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ktache 21 hours ago

Shame about the world champs defence. Speedy recovery. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2026/aug/30/tadej-pogacar-vuelta-a-espana-cycling-crash-hospital-stage-nine

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mdavidford 22 hours ago

I believe the accepted form for this kind of argument is "I know you are, you said you were, but what am I?".

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