A police response to anti-social behaviour complaints about youths ‘bike storming’ and skating in London’s Square Mile has played down the issue, concluding that the number of reports are low, and that the City is a safer place for youths to take part in their hobbies in a relatively safe environment.
In the report, under the subject ‘Responses to Anti-Social Behaviour in the City of London’, points 20 through to 27 refer to Skateboarding and ‘Bike Storming’. It says the City of London Corporation and City Police have been working closely to ‘proportionately respond’ to reports of anti-social behaviour with regards to bike storming and skateboarding; however, it says the number of reports are low:
“Several options have been explored by partners to holistically mitigate the issue”, says the report. “However, many of proposed solutions have been compounded by data from the City Police, which indicates that the actual number of reports to the Police regarding ASB [anti-social behaviour] and such activities is very low.
“Additionally, if there is ASB displayed with the skateboarding and cycling activities the age range of many of those 5 participating in those activities limit the use of low-level ASB enforcement powers, such as Community Protection Warnings and Notices and subsequently displacing the issue.”
Long-term solutions are suggested to allow youths to cycle and skate in a specific area of the City “to avoid noise complaints”; a skate park in the Square Mile is one of the options being explored.
The report concludes: “We are exploring which are the most effective options to address this issue and aim to provide the best possible outcome for both residents and young people.
“We know young people come to the City for a number of reasons and one of them is that the City is a safer place to spend time in comparison to other London boroughs. As such, children and young people can visit the City to play with a significantly reduced risk of becoming involved in serious criminal activities, both as victims and perpetrators. Rather, they can spend their time taking part in an active hobby which promotes exercise, with many of them considering it a sport.”
Following small number of complaints about youths skateboarding and “bike storming” in the City of London, a thoughtful response https://t.co/jzgNtcG8qn by @cityoflondon at the Police Board 22 June https://t.co/788pEMqDi7
The City provides a safe environment to burn off energy. pic.twitter.com/NNiZhr19My
— always last (@lastnotlost) June 18, 2021
The response was shared numerous times on social media, with @lastnotlost commenting: “The City provides a safe environment to burn off energy.”
Paul Allen added: “Whenever I see Bike Stormz I find it heart warming rather than threatening. A lovely response from the authorities.”
‘Bike storming’ commonly refers to cyclists, often youths, riding bmx and mountain bikes in a large group together. As we’ve previously reported, the official ‘BikeStormz’ events are described as “the biggest underground youth movement in the UK” by its creators, with the video above recorded at the 2020 edition. Launched in 2015, the defining message is ‘Knives Down, Bikes Up’, and organisers say they want to turn the riding style – one-handed wheelies, skids and numerous others tricks performed in motion – into a sport in its own right.
BikeStormz 2021 is set to take place on 10th July, and those interested in joining can register on the BikeStormz website. Under 18’s must have parental consent to participate.
47 thoughts on “‘Bike storming’ and skateboarding youths welcome in City of London, suggests new police report responding to anti-social behaviour complaints”
Noice!
Noice!
Kids on bikes, showing off
Kids on bikes, showing off skills.
What’s not to like.
Well done City of London police.
And Knives down, Bikes up is never a bad message…
But I’m a Cabby & dun
But I’m a Cabby & dun <sic> the knowledge; it’s my street. Now even the ol bill are against us!
I love my bike wrote:
You forgot road tax! Tell em about road tax!
I’m such a poor driver ()
I’m such a poor driver
that I can’t afford an electric one & not pay the tax, like those swarmin scoundrels!
Except when they ride
Except when they ride straight at you and pull away at the last moment, this has happened to me multiple times riding through the city. This is often not safe riding that takes into consideration other road users.
If it isn’t bad enough trying to build any respect with drivers and pedestrians, it all goes out the window with groups riding like this through the city.
If you want to gain the respect as a sport then knock of the reckless riding that puts others at risk.
It’s happened to me too. It’s
It’s happened to me too. It’s annoying, but it’s just kids showing off and looking to get a reaction. It’s a bit like when kids at bus stops shout “boo!” as you ride past.
Personally, I’m happy enough to let them be.
What kind of reaction……an
What kind of reaction……an accident, calling them out and getting mobbed for doing so, damaging other peoples property, negative attention whilst trying to gain some kind of recognition for performing a wheelie towards oncoming traffic?
I am all for pushing your abilities in your chosen field but the need to get in peoples faces to do so is unnecessary. There is intimidation and that is why most people won’t intervene.
We as cyclists are often lambasted for not having insurance or having total disregard for other road users and this behaviour is a complete step backwards. Do it in an area that doesn’t involve other road users.
Dis you not notice, there are
Dis you not notice, there are reasons the City is safer for this, acknowledged by the police, far less traffic, it’s within the ULEZ, congestion charge zone and ring of steel, very few private motorists. Hardly any residents either…
Motorists do much the same
Motorists do much the same thing all the time & it’s considered normal! And they’re notionally all adults, trained, taxed & insured; and actually kill people!
Except they are not adults,
Except they are not adults, so the comparison fails immediately.
The kind of reaction any
The kind of reaction any teenager is looking for – trying to get a rise out of you. Looks like they’re succeeding.
As for the damage to the reputation of cyclists, it’s like saying people doing burn-outs and donuts at car meets tar all motorists with their actions. Nobody is going to mistake you as a commuter cyclist with a group of teenagers pulling wheelies down the middle of the road.
As I said, they can be annoying, but what would you have the police do differently?
Yes, but are you also saying
Yes, but are you also saying we should likewise encourage “people doing burn-outs and donuts at car meets”? And might it depend where those meets are?
Errm, how much damage and
Errm, how much damage and loss of life will be incurred by 1 person losing control of a bike compared to a 1 person loosing control of a motorvehicle. Apples and oranges.
Don’t forget all the air
Don’t forget all the air pollutants and the participants not getting exercise.
Is either desirable?
Is either desirable?
Gus T wrote:
and yet the parallels are so clearly drawn in AidanR’s line of reasoning.
No. An analogy is an argument
An analogy is an argument from one particular to another particular. It does not say that they are alike in all ways.
In any event, I did not say that we should encourage such things. I could have also drawn the analogy that one man murdering his wife doesn’t mean that all husbands are tarnished by that man’s actions. Would you also suggest that I’m encouraging men to murder their wives?
AidanR wrote:
Thanks for removing the ambiguity – for clearly we are not expected to condone nor encourage the activities of murderous husbands.
In each of your three parallel scenarios you argue that the activities of the subject group being deplorable need not reflect on the reputation of the majority.
This only makes sense in so far as we do find the activities of the subject group deplorable, else where is the risk to reputation?
The three parallel examples you give, hoodlums in cars, murderous husbands, and Stormz cyclists.
Sriracha wrote:
Now you tell me!
Anyone have any good tips for removing blood from carpets?
Sriracha wrote:
The original point was about motorists having a negative view of all cyclists because of the atypical actions of a small subset.
I’m sure that some motorists do find it deplorable – we all know that there are plenty of angry drivers out there. That doesn’t mean that everyone finds Stormz cyclists deplorable.
Neither does the analogy stretch from deplorable to dangerous – it is specific to (some) people’s perceptions, not to actual threat posed.
Richard Tillotson wrote:
Don’t tell I tell ‘e, Richard…..
It’s annoying, along with all manner of behaviour that emanates from the yoof of today (and yesterday. ‘xcept my generation. We had respect).
Only, what realistically can be done, that is proportionate to the annoyance?
Richard Tillotson wrote:
The idea that we could get teenagers to stop acting like assholes is ludicrous. Cycling has nothing to do with it.
I almost can’t believe this –
I almost can’t believe this – a sensible, proportionate response by police, realising that the issue extends beyond their force boundary and beyond the immediate behaviour. Have we been moved to Amsterdam or Copenhagen and not noticed?
Bikestormz should be a
Bikestormz should be a regular event. Even better if it helped a youth charity.
Of course it’s welcome in
Of course it’s welcome in Khan’s London, as is any kind of criminality.
Remember folks, don’t feed
Oops, wish I could delete this!
Remember folks, don’t feed
Remember folks, don’t feed the troll ?. Just like my comment and move on ?
I’m going foolishly to ignore
I’m going foolishly to ignore Boopop’s sound advice and point out that the Mayor of London has nothing to do with the City of London police. But, hey, who needs facts?
Nope, the City of London
Nope, the City of London police are hostage to Khan’s policies outside their area. As they note within this article, “We know young people come to the City for a number of reasons and one of them is that the City is a safer place to spend time in comparison to other London boroughs”.
Safer to allow this to proceed in their area than to rely on the disgraceful anti-policing elsewhere in London.
So hold on, your initial
So hold on, your initial complaint was it was criminal behaviour that was welcome in “Khans” London. Then when pointed out the City Police don’t have anything to with Khan you then throw out your normal statements about crime in London causing it. (Still nothing to do with 10 years of Austerity for both Police AND Charity/council funded after school clubs?)
So, do you feel that this “Bike Storming” is criminal behaviour then? I noticed you cut out all the rest of the quote from the CoL Police about letting children do it as it is an exercise and sport.
Khan has just been relected.
Khan has just been relected. So either London’s voters endorse criminality or they recognise that a decade of Tory cuts to the police and social services, including Boris Johnson closing police stations when he was mayor, have more to do with the recent jump in crime. Note that the jump in crime is seen right across the UK. So what’s the real answer?
I had to read this twice, can
I had to read this twice, can’t quite believe it:
“We know young people come to the City for a number of reasons and one of them is that the City is a safer place to spend time in comparison to other London boroughs. As such, children and young people can visit the City to play with a significantly reduced risk of becoming involved in serious criminal activities, both as victims and perpetrators. Rather, they can spend their time taking part in an active hobby which promotes exercise, with many of them considering it a sport.”
Kids being encouraged to act like kids, who’d have thought it!
Meanwhile, in Bristol we’ve
Meanwhile, in Bristol we’ve installed anti-skate strips around the Cenotaph: https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/row-dozens-raised-strips-installed-5550730
On the one hand, there should be some respect for the Cenotaph, but I just hate hostile architecture (e.g. sloping benches).
hawkinspeter wrote:
I saw them putting those in last week. Clearly someone living in Electricity House has connections…
How long until the first damages claim from someone who’s tripped over them, or disability access claim from a chair user?
I’m almost hoping that
I’m almost hoping that happens though obviously not so great for whoever gets hurt and not so great for the public purse. They can’t be good for anyone with sight issues or is a bit unsteady on their feet and I’m guessing they’d be slippery when wet.
Surely they could instead have changed it to a planted garden or even a bit of turf?
Talking about disability
Talking about disability claims, the BCC /Walsall council(?) have decided this official ped and cycling shared path should now have a bar barrier across the width of it with the bushy area on the left being paved and having one of those “anti motorbike” barriers. They haven’t even put a drop kerb the other side so anyone in a wheelchair or larger vehicle is just getting a massive Fuck You.
I will never understand that.
I will never understand that. If it’s not dangerous to others, it’s a public place – PEOPLE SHOULD BE CONGREGATING. That’s kind of the point.
Meanwhile, in Bristol we’ve installed anti-skate strips around the Cenotaph: https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/row-dozens-raised-strips-installed-5550730
On the one hand, there should be some respect for the Cenotaph, but I just hate hostile architecture (e.g. sloping benches).— hawkinspeter
SaintClarence27 wrote:
I saw a reddit post about it and pretty much all the responses were along the lines of “it’s great to watch the skateboarders there”.
As Brooksby implies, it’s likely that the wealthy residents of Electricity House don’t like the noise.
We always see these kids on
We always see the 100s of kids and older when they do their bike events, on our weekend bike rides around town.
Their skills are damn impressive and amazingly I’ve never seen any of them fall off besides the ages and the ridiculous wheelies.
I haven’t witnessed trouble except for the worried looking older cyclists and pedestrians and of course comments of covid and kids.
What makes me jealous as adult is the bikes these kids are riding. Don’t turn up if the bikes under a grand unless you can wheelie 99% time!
I’m not sure the City of
I’m not sure the City of London Corporation and the City of London Police are on the same page with this. As police officers in the City have been told to deal robustly with the issues that the cyclists and skateboarders are causing such as the ASB element Road Traffic Offences, theft and and public order that occur every weekend and school holidays
The vast majority of
The vast majority of complaints I have seen about this sort of behaviour have usually included a nice video, recorded on a mobile phone by the driver of a vehicle…
Usually a driver complaining about how ‘dangerous’ the riders are while driving towards them at speed in a 2+ Ton chunk of steel while focusing on getting mobile phone video… It is terrifying when I comment on this how few are able to grasp the concept that if you think the children are behaving dangerously, then the last thing you should be doing is turning a low speed fall/bump if they screw up (most likely bruises and given the talent usually shown highly unlikely anyway) into a 30mph collision where your 2+tons of metal is going to end up crushing them and therefore the justice system really should be focusing on the driver as by their own complaint (the riders are risking dangerous collisions) proceeding is clearly dangerous driving (as they continue driving into a dangerous situation…)
(n.b. half the complaint is also usually the existance of a large group of cyclists on “major” roads (reality – tiny residential access roads/rat runs serving a few hundred properties with nearby parallel main roads) that it isn’t safe to overtake causing ‘massive’ delays (reality – 30 seconds following cyclists out of 5+ min of delays for lights, junctions, parked cars and traffic) as well as chances of them hurting themselves (reality – hospital stats show this is safer than most other sporting activities they could be doing and a lot safer than being idle) or someone else (reality – no evidence in either hospital or police stats))
Well, where do I begin?
Well, where do I begin? Riding a bike is my greatest pleasure, but I think this is attrocious. The police pandering to a bunch of idiots whose only wish is to take over the roads, and dangerously. If this is what the police welcome to the streets of London, then what chance has a law abiding cyclist without a police escort. I believe it is disgraceful.
welshcyclist wrote:
I think the streets of the city of london which are relatively empty outside of business hours monday to friday is the best place for these rides.
welshcyclist wrote:
Sorry, are we talking about motorists here?…..
I might be cynical, but if I
I might be cynical, but if I was a tabloid journalist I’d consider taking a drive through the City of London on the 10th July with a good quality dashcam installed… Think of the Facebook hits
Thank you for attempting to
Thank you for attempting to bring this to light. I in fact took part in this, and would like to explain the reasons behind it. Many people, who have large followings on social media have decided to arrange these meet-ups, in an attempt to help kids get off the streets, away from crime, and ride a bike and enjoy themselves. You may not see it as that, but the whole point is to help. During this day, thousands of pounds of clothes, food, even brand new bikes were given out to young children (11/12) and massive groups of people. The media, as per usual sees this in a negative light however the reality is, people are trying to do better. They are trying to stay away from knife crime, that being the reason for these rides #knivesdownbikesup. Please don’t try to put a bad light on this, It is better than kids going out taking part in crime, which in London they very easily could be. See it from both sides, and stop putting a negative image on something so positive.