People who visit Chiswick for brunch are ‘trampling’ over local residents views’ by using a new cycle lane, say Tory councillors.
The row comes as the Labour-run Hounslow Council turned down a Conservative challenge to the Chiswick High Road cycle lane – built in February 2021.
The TfL-funded cycle lane is intended to promote healthy travel, increase safety and discourage car use.
The Chiswick Conservatives organised a ‘call-in’ on August 4, asking the council to re-think its decision to keep the cycle lane for another six-months, reports My London.
But all members of the Overview and Scrutiny Committee voted to push ahead with the new lane.
> West London council votes to make temporary cycleway permanent – for next 18 months at least
Turnham Green’s Tory councillor Joanna Biddolph, said: “We continually have decisions made about Chiswick that are just imposed on us by people who just do not know it.
“Driving through it or having brunch here is not knowing how Chiswick works, you have to know it as a resident or a worker.”
Chiswick Homefields councillor and Tory leader Gerald McGregor said: “This current scheme, and the new Experiment Traffic Order is hopeless.
“There is a perceived lack of fairness, Chiswick residents feel they have been trampled on. The democratic deficit is clear here.”
The new cycle lane plan was ‘rubber stamped’ by Hounslow’s leadership and ‘uses weasel words and lacks transparency’, Cllr Biddolph argued.
> Huge growth in number of people including families riding bikes on West London protected cycleway
Defending the scheme, Hanif Khan cabinet member for transport, said London Mayor’s have consistently encouraged active travel.
He added: “The council transport strategy set out to reduce the dominance of cars on the road and we see that everywhere, where possible we want to take necessary steps to provide amenities to encourage walking and cycling.
“The pandemic has further highlighted the need for the benefit of urgently providing high quality cycling infrastructure.”
Council transport officer Jefferson Nwokeoma, revealed that between February and June 2021 average weekly cycle lane users increased from 1,239 to 2,316.
Mr Nwokeoma emphasised that the council was going ‘above and beyond’ by engaging with the public for 21 days before starting the new temporary cycle lane.
Defending an alleged ‘failure to consult’ in the last seven months, Mr Nwokeoma said 8,000 letters were sent to Chiswick’s 45,000 residents, as well as stakeholder emails and ‘town hall type events’.
Speaking about the plans last month, London’s Walking and Cycling Commissioner, Will Norman, said: “[The] data shows the huge positive impact cycle lanes can have not only in enabling more people to cycle, but also in reducing road danger and improving air quality.
“Chiswick High Road has been transformed by the trial lane, with cycling on weekdays up by almost three quarters and bikes now making up a fifth of ‘vehicles’ using the road during the day.
“We will continue to work with Hounslow Council and boroughs across London to do all we can to ensure a greener and cleaner recovery from the pandemic.”

51 thoughts on “Conservative councillors say people going for brunch are ‘ruining cycle lane experiment’”
This is a local district for
This is a local district for local people, there’s nothing for you here!
So if you eat brunch, you are
So if you eat brunch, you are not a ‘proper’ local? Is the definition of someone who ‘truly knows’ the area one who thinks that cycle lanes are an abomination? And if you like cycle lanes then that disqualifies you as a ‘true’ local?
Yes but you forgoot a person
Yes but you forgoot a person shops local by bike is also not a true local. Members of the community who shop local by bike are simply hobos
the little onion wrote:
It’s the famous “no true Scotsman” fallacy all over again…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
matthewn5 wrote:
No true local? No true bruncher?
You can’t expect
You can’t expect conservatives to be rational or make sense, they have long ago caught themselves in a logical condundrum by deriding the bicycle as the transport of the proletariat and simultaneously deriding it as the plaything of rich inner city latte sipping Lefties.
Having thus described the bicycle as a useful object for rich and working class alike, they have checkmated themselves but refuse to accept it. So they try every possible move to get out of the impossible situation they’re in, over and over again. It’s pitiful.
the little onion wrote:
It’s the “No True Scotsman” fallacy all over again.
I wonder whether they survey
I wonder whether they survey where people live who are driving through the borough? I mean, clearly their opinions and convenience only count if they live locally and are driving on the road for work purposes (not recreational use, god forbid!)
I was just wondering that.
I was just wondering that. All other Councils want people to visit their borough/district so that they spend money and use their facilities. Clearly they are all muddled in their thinking !
Surely, if they live locally
Surely, if they live locally[i] and[/i] work locally then they need a cycle lane, not a car lane!
I thought the usual argument
I thought the usual argument was that cycle lanes stifled local trade, because nobody on a bicycle stops to spend money. But now the argument is they [i]are stopping[/i] to spend money locally, to eat brunch?
Councils: We want visitors to
Councils: We want visitors to spend money
Also Councils: Not that kind of money!
dodgy wrote:
Not that kind of visitor?
Sniffer wrote:
They might have come from Hounslow, or – shudder – Isleworth.
When you don’t really have
When you don’t really have any logical, sensible, even mildly valid reasons for opposing something, you have to make up some illogical, ridiculous and utterly invalid reasons, and these are so fictional as to be worthy of Dickens, or more likely Terry Pratchett. If this is how the tories ensure that high streets blossom and prosper by discouraging hungry, thirsty cyclists from stopping and buying food and drink, they’re even stupider than I thought.
Such incredible short-sightedness in the face of galloping climate change, the obesity epidemic, congestion and injury and death is truly staggering.
I object to that reference.
I object to that reference. Terry Pratchett at least produced works of fiction where you laughed at the content, rather than laughing “at” the author. The great man even had a quote perfect for those cyclists “ruining” the cycle lane my using it.
“It’s not worth doing something unless someone, somewhere, would much rather you weren’t doing it.”
The councilor is not against cycling, just don’t do it in HER burough.
StuInNorway wrote:
Sadly, that justifies the petrolhead, ABD attitude to claiming the road as their own fiefdom.
Thank you. I stand corrected
Thank you. I stand corrected and humbled.
Douglas Adams?
‘Tory councillors in talking
‘Tory councillors in talking garbage shocker’ – Honestly, what on earth is wrong with these people? And what about the people who vote for these councillors?
And they’ll probably moan about the cycle lanes causing traffic congestion…..when they are the traffic.
People driving through is one
People driving through is one thing, they surely bring very little benefit to an area. People walking and cycling to use local shops and services, are also likely to live locally, not everyone sets off on a century ride for an incidental cafe stop or even brunch.
I’m really confused as to what the counsellors are objecting to as they seem to be complaining about the success of the scheme with measurable benefits. Or maybe it is they who are confused about what the local economy actually needs in the way of less traffic congestion, healthier residents and increased high street footfall.
Aaah, conservatives. How are
Aaah, conservatives. How are they supposed to argue for the removal of cycle lanes if people actually use them! It’s just not fair. Don’t we know that their fragile egos depend on being able to laud their superiority over others, which can’t happen if it’s easy for people to use non-status symbol transport to go somewhere and quelle horreur actually enjoy themselves? It’s upsetting the social order, that can’t possibly be allowed!
Philh68 wrote:
The people writing in to their MPs and complaining loudly don’t appear to realise they’re actually the minority.
Not merely using them but
Not merely using them but stopping and spending money too, thus propping up local businesses. It’s hard for the Tories to argue against capitalism.
CygnusX1 wrote:
Not that type of capitalism….
It seems these backwards
It seems these backwards thinking conservatives haven’t been brought up to speed with ‘Gear Change’. I presume head office will have to decide whether strenuous reeducation or a P45 is more appropriate.
What is the problem? Sales of
What is the problem? Sales of Avocado Toast are going throught the roof in Chiswick.
Organon wrote:
’twill attract all kinds of undesirables
Got to crack down hard on these clowns or we’ll be up to our balls in jugglers
Captain Badger wrote:
Well, it’s all for the greater good.
Jenova20 wrote:
It will be interesting to see
It will be interesting to see if this goes further – the councillor in question job is to deal with a company or individual’s reputational crisis when they have publicly shit themselves in the foot. https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannabiddolph/?originalSubdomain=uk
That’s an interesting
That’s an interesting metaphor.
Pictures please!
Pictures please!
My take on the Tory
My take on the Tory councillor whinging was that the councillors who drive through Chiswick and go there for brunch i.e. the ones from Hounslow, are forcing their views on the good residents of Chiswick. (From Wikipedia: Chiswick is a district within the Borough of Hounslow)
The two Tories quoted presumably actually live in Chiswick and are saying that they know their residents best. Which can be a reasonable argument, but in this case they aren’t producing any evidence of the views of Chiswickians (?) unlike the Hounslow councillors who are at least evidencing a consultation process.
It could also be that the
It could also be that the Tories just are desperate to have a go at a successful Labour run borough. The Tories haven’t held LBof Hounslow since 1971, it’s been Labour almost all the way. The exception was 2006 to 2010, when the minority Conservatives linked up with a short lived bunch of independents. It’s one of the few outer London boroughs that has consistently voted for Labour. Hounslow is one of the most ethenically diverse outer London boroughs and they’ve served the population of the borough well, which is why they keep getting voted in. I suspect that certain sections of Chiswick society would like UDI from rough old Hounslow.
Having sucessfully run Hounslow for so long I think they’ve a pretty good idea of what is required for the borough as a whole and those who travel through it.
Oh yes and Chiswick has always been a very nice (fairly white) middle class sort of place, and it’s the only part of the borough with a London postal district.
As for the rest of the borough well for Brentford (home of the Mighty Bees, “We’re just a Bus Stop in Hounslow!!!”) watch People do Nothing, for Hounslow here is my homey Chabuddy G to explain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBTEiUgh7lI There’s also Feltham, (nothing like Chiswick), Heston (also nothing like Chiswick), Hanworth, Heston and Hatton Cross (also nothing like Chiswick) and Isleworth a bit sort of inbetween Hounslow and Chiswick, but more suburban.
I was dragged up in Haans-low, to give it it’s correct pronunciation.
The new cycle lane plan …..
Oh the irony……
You mustelids should stick
You mustelids should stick together.
HarrogateSpa wrote:
I’ve never figured out how to tell apart a weasel and a stoat
hawkinspeter wrote:
Why, ’tis simple HP…
A weasel is weasily recognised.
A stoat, however, is stoatally different
Apart from the joke, which is
Apart from the joke, which is one of my favourites, it’s the black tip on a stoat’s tail that sets it apart from its smaller cousin the weasel.
Also weasels can’t swim.
Also weasels can’t swim.
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
Does that mean they’re not witches?….
AlsoSomniloquism wrote:
I think they can,
wycombewheeler wrote:
Witches! let’s burn them!
HarrogateSpa wrote:
Should, not must[elid]
I’d say they’re not my family but, in a scientific sense at least, they very much are…..
People who visit Chiswick for
People who
visit Chiswick for brunchare switching mode of transport for local journeys are‘trampling’ over local residents views’disproving the prejudices of petrol addicts by using a new cycle lane, say Tory councillors.Is what I think they mean
Another one on the list when
Another one on the list when visting the in laws – ride at <20mph (or is it at 24 mph?) in Richmond Park and ride along Chiswick High Road.
You don’t understand our
You don’t understand our country ways!!!
You don’t understand our
You don’t understand our contrary ways!!!
They do seem to be slightly
They do seem to be slightly bonkers there
https://www.mylondon.news/news/west-london-news/councillor-calls-woke-free-zone-21054246
Oh, sorry ‘one avocado short of a brunch’.
hirsute wrote:
I was struck by his use of the phrase “…..that’s what many people, many, many people think……” Just like Trump used to say.
“This is a local bike lane
“This is a local bike lane for local people”