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Tour de France winner on doping controls & African yellow jerseys

In a video interview on The Guardian, Chris Froome has said that he believes cycling is now “one of the cleanest sports, if not the cleanest” because of the testing, whereabouts controls and biological passport that riders are now subject to.

Froome explained that he has to log in to a website every day to let anti-doping authorities know where he is, so that he could be tested at any time, and that his blood is sampled “almost every month” so that it can be monitored for signs of cheating.

As well as the pressure of competing for the victory at the Tour de france, Froome and Team Sky had to handle constant questions about doping.

“Not only were we thinking abot the race and the challenges that presented but also that aspect off the bike of having to answer questions about our legitimacy,” said Froome. “I completely understand those questions, It’s normal given the revelations from Lance Armstrong’s era.”

Here’s the video:

Our official grumpy Northerner, John has been riding bikes for over 30 years since discovering as an uncoordinated teen that a sport could be fun if it didn't require you to catch a ball or get in the way of a hulking prop forward.

Road touring was followed by mountain biking and a career racing in the mud that was as brief as it was unsuccessful.

Somewhere along the line came the discovery that he could string a few words together, followed by the even more remarkable discovery that people were mug enough to pay for this rather than expecting him to do an honest day's work. He's pretty certain he's worked for even more bike publications than Mat Brett.

The inevitable 30-something MAMIL transition saw him shift to skinny tyres and these days he lives in Cambridge where the lack of hills is more than made up for by the headwinds.

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Some Fella [890 posts] 2 years ago
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"The cleanest sport"?
Erm - lets not get carried away now Chrissy lad

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Some Fella [890 posts] 2 years ago
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In other news....

Can we stop asking him about doping now please?
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WolfieSmith [1318 posts] 2 years ago
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Good for him. The BBC were asking Chris Hoy this morning about Froome and whether he was clean. If I was Froome or Hoy I would be asking why journalists are still pointing a narrow beam torch on cycling - rather than switching on the room light and asking rugby, football, tennis, swimming and athletics whether they have their camps in order?

Of course after what happened to Walsh and Kimmage no football hack is going to ask a premiership manager whether they think star players peeing in a cup twice a year is due diligence.

It's a ticking time bomb just like MP expenses and banking regulations. I'll give it another 2 years before they find the next Fuentes and the Great British Press start coming up with thorough investigative journalism across sport.

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StoopidUserName [169 posts] 2 years ago
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Some Fella wrote:

"The cleanest sport"?
Erm - lets not get carried away now Chrissy lad

According to Joey Barton the extent of the worlds richest sport's doping policy is an occasional urine test - something which was discredited 20 odd years ago.

Of course. I'm not accusing footballers of cheating to get insanely rich and successful, that's not in human nature...

...repeat for Tennis/Athletics/any sport that can get you a lot of money.

Cycling probably still has a problem but at least it's more or less in the open, almost all other sports have their head in the sand as it'd cost them £££ in sponsorship money if it were discovered their stars were cheating.

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notfastenough [3674 posts] 2 years ago
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Unfortunately though, there is precious little evidence of this wider-sport focus actually happening, it's just us moaning on a narrow-focus website that isn't even seen by fans of other sports. I'm not currently optimistic. Mercuryone I hope you're right (last paragraph).

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pmr [197 posts] 2 years ago
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What we really need to know is how come Lance was tested like a gazillion times and supposedly never had a positive test, yet was cheating all along. And how come riders like that Turkish bloke and Santambrogio still think they can get away with it today.
Is the testing system water tight and how do we know it is?
There are clearly masking agents etc and dodgy doctors still flouting the system.
I agree though that there are lots of cheats in other sports that get much less coverage, I believe athletics has a more serious problem, I mean half of the womens running world records are clearly not clean.

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mikeprytherch [223 posts] 2 years ago
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We know that other sports have drugs issues, horse racing !!!, just look at athletics, footballers have missed drugs tests, why ?

I would bet my house that if all sports had the same testing as cycling we would be catching a lot more cheats in those sports.

No sport will ever be totally clean as some people will always cheat, that is human nature, but don't bring down a whole sport for one or two idiots, cycling is the only sport that I am aware of that is getting cleaner, we can always argue that there is more to do, Rome wasn't built in a day as they say.

The biggest change really is the culture, where once it was accepted, now it isn't, this is good.

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Doper [69 posts] 2 years ago
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Yep, cycling is the cleanest sport. No need to dope anymore. Thanks to marginal gains, it's possible to climb mountains as fast as Armstrong & Pantani.  22

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Super Domestique [1596 posts] 2 years ago
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And so another dopey thread lol

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Zav [36 posts] 2 years ago
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Is it me or does Mr Froome look incredibly hungover in this interview (maybe 1.5 pints of lager shandy)?

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sgcoates [7 posts] 2 years ago
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Take a look at the UKAD sanctions page. You've got to go past a lot of other sports before you find a cyclist, and even that was for going home early.

Can't understand why those basketballers keep getting done for cannabinoids tho.  3http://www.ukad.org.uk/anti-doping-rule-violations/current-violations/

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The Rumpo Kid [589 posts] 2 years ago
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pmr wrote:

What we really need to know is how come Lance was tested like a gazillion times and supposedly never had a positive test, yet was cheating all along.

He bribed the UCI.

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mingmong [258 posts] 2 years ago
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MercuryOne wrote:

Good for him. The BBC were asking Chris Hoy this morning about Froome and whether he was clean. If I was Froome or Hoy I would be asking why journalists are still pointing a narrow beam torch on cycling - rather than switching on the room light and asking rugby, football, tennis, swimming and athletics whether they have their camps in order?

Of course after what happened to Walsh and Kimmage no football hack is going to ask a premiership manager whether they think star players peeing in a cup twice a year is due diligence.

It's a ticking time bomb just like MP expenses and banking regulations. I'll give it another 2 years before they find the next Fuentes and the Great British Press start coming up with thorough investigative journalism across sport.

^^^ this

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leejdavies [4 posts] 2 years ago
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Umm…

Other sports? Did you forget this recent gem.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jul/20/tyson-gay-asafa-powell-doping

Possibly two of the biggest names in world athletics. And it's known that Messi took HGH, most certainly doping. These are big names, but it's kind of swept under the carpet by the media in other sports for some reason.

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Leviathan [1921 posts] 2 years ago
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StoopidUserName wrote:

Cycling probably still has a problem but at least it's more or less in the open, almost all other sports have their head in the sand as it'd cost them £££ in sponsorship money if it were discovered their stars were cheating.

Yep, Phil Mickelson won by a large margin too on Sunday, just in time for me to switch over to Paris. I would like to know how many doping tests he has had? Or could you spread whats in his veins on toast?

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jhamlin38 [11 posts] 2 years ago
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the doping arguement will go on forever. Speculation will be perpetual regardless of sport, positive or negative results. the larger the sport, the further their head is in the sand.
MLB is now at the very beginning of the learning curve of how to deal with it.
the result. Ryan Braun will miss the remainder of this season, without approx $4M US. however next year he plays and will earn over $100M US.
I just can't stand it anymore.

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TeamCC [146 posts] 2 years ago
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Is chess a sport? I bet they do some serious stuff before a match. Thankfully they have stopped the double brain implant scandal.

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RTB [151 posts] 2 years ago
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The Rumpo Kid wrote:
pmr wrote:

What we really need to know is how come Lance was tested like a gazillion times and supposedly never had a positive test, yet was cheating all along.

He bribed the UCI.

There were no reliable tests for EPO at that time. The only ridiculous measure was a hematocrit limit which the cheating cyclists knew how to stay just under despite EPO doping. Armstrong's blood samples have failed current tests from what I understand.

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RTB [151 posts] 2 years ago
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Cleanest sport? Possibly. Clean sport? No.

The two chumps from Vini Fantini at the Giro peed in the tent on that one.

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The Rumpo Kid [589 posts] 2 years ago
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RTB wrote:
The Rumpo Kid wrote:
pmr wrote:

What we really need to know is how come Lance was tested like a gazillion times and supposedly never had a positive test, yet was cheating all along.

He bribed the UCI.

There were no reliable tests for EPO at that time. The only ridiculous measure was a hematocrit limit which the cheating cyclists knew how to stay just under despite EPO doping. Armstrong's blood samples have failed current tests from what I understand.

In 1999, Lance Armstrong failed FOUR tests for corticosteroids. The UCI broke its own rules by accepting a backdated certificate as a TUE. The UCI also suspended its anti-doping rules to enable Armstrong to enter the 2009 Tour Down Under. It's possible that in the intervening ten years the UCI was at all times beyond reproach, but I doubt it.

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gmrza [15 posts] 2 years ago
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Looks cleaner than AFL at the moment....

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pwake [374 posts] 2 years ago
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Doper wrote:

Yep, cycling is the cleanest sport. No need to dope anymore. Thanks to marginal gains, it's possible to climb mountains as fast as Armstrong & Pantani.  22

Elaborate?
Which mountains? Were they at the same point in the Tour? What were the prevailing wind conditions? How aggressive was the racing on these climbs? What was the temperature? Etc,etc....
No wonder Brailsford didn't want to release any data; very much a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't.

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willjeffcott [8 posts] 2 years ago
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Well, if you exclude any sport which you couldn't really take PEDs to become more successful. The doping involved in athletics and other aerobic endurance sports is without doubt far greater than cycling

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dannyencasa [1 post] 2 years ago
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Says Froome, the biggest steroid junkie on the planet

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notfastenough [3674 posts] 2 years ago
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pwake wrote:
Doper wrote:

Yep, cycling is the cleanest sport. No need to dope anymore. Thanks to marginal gains, it's possible to climb mountains as fast as Armstrong & Pantani.  22

Elaborate?
Which mountains? Were they at the same point in the Tour? What were the prevailing wind conditions? How aggressive was the racing on these climbs? What was the temperature? Etc,etc....
No wonder Brailsford didn't want to release any data; very much a case of damned if you do, damned if you don't.

If I worked for a pro team - as rider or staff - I don't think I'd ever look at an internet forum again. I know how the media and armchair experts can get wound up over technology that they understand so little of (when it's the field I work in), so it must be even worse for them.

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Simon E [2681 posts] 2 years ago
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Dopers being caught in Italy and Turkey show there are still some cheats but that they are being caught. There is also change of mood in the peloton. USADA is at least doing more tests on cyclists than many other sports:

http://www.usada.org/sport-testing-numbers-2013

Stating that today's whereabouts, biopassport and other measures are the same as the laughable setup in the late 90s and early 2000s is either plain stupid or disingenuous. Tyler Hamilton's book and the evidence in last year's testimonies demonstrate the methods used and so on. Plenty of stuff here and don't forget David Walsh even wrote a book about it:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/index-of-lance-armstrong-doping-alle...

While Froome's performances understandably raise eyebrows, he should be villified as a doper. It would be nice to at least have some smoke before the Twitterati and armchair experts declare there is a fire.

With shit like this I'm not surprised Wiggins 'let go' with some expletives last year. Perhaps you would like to swap places for a while and see what it's like... No, I didn't think so.

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notfastenough [3674 posts] 2 years ago
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dannyencasa wrote:

Says Froome, the biggest steroid junkie on the planet

Tell you what everyone, let's not bother feeding the troll eh? What a ridiculous statement.

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notfastenough [3674 posts] 2 years ago
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@Simon E, did you mean "should *not* be"?