See the new Cervelo P4 at Cycle 2008

@tomlew Sigh. I typed out a long reply to you, including a link to a very relevant paper (which itself references a number of other relevant studies), and it's got lost in Road.cc's blackhole of a moderation queue - cause I linked to a scientific paper. Road.cc - can you please check the mod queue, and can you also please whitelist comments that reference URIs to major scientific publishing platforms? Thanks.

@Surreyrider Well, quite - plus there's the video coverage of the event, which doesn't show him making any obvious mistake, but rather shows the whole train of riders going wide through the corner and him getting cramped for space - not unlike many other crashes where there's no suggestion that lack of sleep was an issue.

@Rendel Harris I think there is a line in there about specific riders having broken anti-doping rules or could so - meaning they essentially have a whole lot more leeway to test.

@mdavidford Well there's evidence of it not being a link. Visma were riding hard to set up Vinny for an attack and the riders interviewed after the stage all said Jonas was on a good day and ready to go for it.

@jackcycles I don't see any evidence in your comment that you're not a paid lobbyist posting anti-e-bike comments on behalf of the motor and oil industries. As far as the bike in the article goes, though, there is pretty strong evidence that it was road legal, in that it was hired from a reputable scheme.

Or just buy direct from Waltly & save a few quid!!

We regularly hear of a traffic police officer giving confident opinions in court cases regarding such things as 'speed at the time of collision', and their opinions seem to be taken seriously. We also know of a police officer's opinion, when being told by a dying man that he has been stabbed, saying 'I don't think you have, mate'. Why are people still surprised that stupid, ill-educated but very self-confident police officers are as thick as two short planks, as well as being criminal (think Couzens, Carrick and many of the officers at Charing Cross Police Station) and/ or as bent as a £9 note- this method of assessing whether a bike is a legal EAPC is so stupid as to beyond belief, unless you have personal experience of the UK police, that is. Many of them really are malevolent, cyclist-hostile thick, out-of-control b******s

@Rendel Harris my "lived experience" is of delivery drivers riding around on illegal modified motorbikes. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen anyone riding around with a silly blue delivery bag riding a road-legal bike, let alone having insurance. I don't see any evidence in the article to support the idea that the seized bike was unmodified and road legal. These e-motorbikes are a menace to the road. Just yesterday I went to my local bike shop and the poor owner nearly killed himself when some fat bloke riding what can only be described as a motorbike drove to the door asking for help with his brakes. Bike shop owner went to have a look and inadvertently turned a throttle, causing the machine to roar into life and drag him along the pavement in an undignified manner.

There wouldn't have been a peloton in that era (aside from Christophe Bassons) if they had instigated night-time testing.

The article states that: "The term E-bike refers to an electrically assisted pedal cycle (EAPC)" YES & NO. It can refer to any electrically powered cycle or motorbike. That would include EAPCs. An "E-bike" is not a legally defined thing.