Betsy Andreu, who played a key part in the downfall of her husband Frankie’s former team-mate Lance Armstrong, has thanked Paula Radcliffe for confirming what she had been told – that the women’s marathon world record holder was considered by some to be “the female version” of the disgraced cyclist.
Andreu had asked Radcliffe whether she was the British athlete who four years ago threatened to sue The Sunday Times over an investigation it was conducting into allegations of blood doping against British athletes.
On Tuesday evening, BBC News sports editor Dan Roan tweeted video of a segment of an interview by the channel’s broadcaster Gabby Logan with Radcliffe at the IAAF World Athletics Championships in Doha, Qatar.
“We talk about how much money has gone into (this investigation)…i think USADA were maybe trying to regain face after the Coleman fiasco..”
Wonder what the US Anti-Doping Agency will make of Paula Radcliffe’s take on their successful pursuit of the banned Alberto Salazar pic.twitter.com/IQnzRSgBTX— Dan Roan (@danroan) October 1, 2019
Logan had asked Radlciffe her thoughts about the four-year ban handed to the athletics coach Alberto Salazar following his four-year ban by the United States Anti-Doping Agency for “orchestrating and facilitating prohibited doping conduct.”
In response to that video, Andreu asked Radcliffe whether she had been the athlete who, in an August 2015 Sunday Times story under the heading, A dozen top British athletes have recorded abnormal blood scores, threatened to sue the newspaper. Radcliffe confirmed that she was.
I did say that.l was in a distressed state of shock at what they were threatening. I truly admired Walsh’s & your fight that exposed Lance for the bully and fraud he was. Now they were going to run a false, damaging story and I knew I was completely innocent.
— Paula Radcliffe (@paulajradcliffe) October 3, 2019
In response, Andreu said:
Thank you for answering at least this truthfully. I was always told you were the female version of Armstrong. Thanks for confirming.
— betsy andreu (@betsyandreu) October 3, 2019
The Sunday Times story was written by the newspaper’s Insight investigative reporting team, which said that it was not naming the athlete – who insisted they had “never cheated” – “because the source who leaked the doping data requested that athletes who had never been banned for cheating should be kept anonymous.”
The report added: “On three occasions during their career the athlete’s test results were so ‘abnormal’ that there was only a one in a thousand chance that they were natural.”
The newspaper listed a number of events where medals were under suspicion and, separately, the championships they related to. While the data related to all countries and not just Great Britain, the lists included both the marathon and the 2005 Helsinki IAAF World Athletics Championships, where Radcliffe won gold.
It said that it met the athlete in a hotel lobby to discuss the findings, adding: “In reference to this newspaper’s long-running legal battle with the disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong, who was obliged to repay libel damages after admitting he had cheated, the athlete said: ‘You print it and I sue you [and] you won’t be getting any money back in future like Lance Armstrong — I promise you that’.”
In November 2015 UK Anti-doping, which had received Radcliffe’s blood test history from the IAAF, said it had “come to the same conclusion as the IAAF review that there is no case to answer.”
Salazar’s ban relates to when he headed up the Nike Oregon Project, where Mo Farah trained during 2011-17, the period when he won four Olympic gold medals. Radcliffe remains an ambassador for Nike, and her husband Gary Lough, who was her long-time coach, now coaches Farah, potential conflicts of interest that were not acknowledged during the BBC interview on Tuesday.
Radcliffe, who at times appeared uncomfortable, told Logan that Salazar had “overstepped [a] line.” She also suggested that lack of sanctions against individual athletes meant that they were not guilty of doping.
She said: “We’ve all talked about in the past about how Alberto, in particular, will push it right up to that line. He’s been very conscious of trying to find out where the limits lie and how close he can push it to get those last little bits of gains to compete with athletes that, in his mind, in other parts of the world, are really cheating. He’s overstepped that.
“He probably should hold his hands up and say, ‘I did, I overstepped. The rules were broken, I will now take the punishment for that’.
“Because no athletes have been sanctioned, have real anti-doping [rules been] transgressed by athletes? I don’t think so. Otherwise we would have seen athletes banned at this point.”
“The athletes themselves have done nothing wrong at this point.”
The 45-year-old also insinuated that USADA’s investigation had been motivated by Chris Coleman, who won the men’s 100 metres at Doha, escaping a potential two-year ban for missing three anti-doping controls within 12 months due to a technicality.
The inference seemed to be that by banning Salazar, the agency was trying to save face – even though its investigation into him had lasted four years.
Radcliffe said: “We talk about how long this investigation has gone on, how much money has gone into it, because people were waiting for something big.
“I think USADA thought it was something big, I think USADA are trying to maybe regain a little bit of face also for the Coleman fiasco and everything that’s gone on.
“In going with this, they’ve maybe been thinking that it’s something along the lines of a Lance Armstrong – which was huge.”
Armstrong, who was also sponsored by Nike during the peak years of his career, received a lifetime ban in 2012 and was stripped of results including his seven Tour de France titles he had won between 1999 and 2005.
Frankie Andreu admitted in 2006 that he had taken EPO when riding with Armstrong at the 1999 Tour de France and subsequently provided testimony to the USADA investigation into the US Postal Service team.
In a 2005 court case, Betsy and Frankie Andreu both testified that they had been present in a hospital room in 1996, when Armstrong was receiving treatment for testicular cancer, that he had admitted to doctors using performance-enhancing drugs, including EPO.
Armstrong won that case, but would finally admit to doping in January 2013, three months after he was sanctioned.
Today, he posted a response on Twitter to Roan’s post of the Radcliffe interview … a pair of eyeroll emojis.
— Lance Armstrong (@lancearmstrong) October 3, 2019





















49 thoughts on “Paula Radcliffe “the female version” of Lance Armstrong? His nemesis Betsy Andreu thinks so”
Interesting. At L’etape du
Interesting. At L’etape du tour this year 52 year old Edwige Pitel finished in 5 hrs 25 mins. The next fastest female was 31 years old and half an hour slower. Is Edwige taking performance enhancing drugs?
Cheeky Mare.
Cheeky Mare.
Has Paula tested positive?
Did she bully team mates into doping ?
Did she try and silence clean riders ?
Nope she actively protested against dopers.
Betsy knows nothing.
fenix wrote:
That’s the kind of thing Lance’s supporters were saying for years… until she was finally shown to be 100% right.
Betsy Andreu is no fool.
Simon E wrote:
That’s the kind of thing Lance’s supporters were saying for years… until she was finally shown to be 100% right.
Betsy Andreu is no fool.— fenix
Yes, but Betsy was in the room when Lance admitted taking a variety of PED’s to an oncolagist.
In this case she is far removed from Paula Radcliffe.
jasecd wrote:
This is the thing that has always disgusted me about her tbh. A friend has been diagnosed with potentially fatal cancer. They are at a low ebb (to state the obvious) yet show love and faith to their friends by letting them in to their inner circle at a sensitive moment.
Then she goes blab about it to everyone afterwards. The fact her husband did the same cheating for a decade gets brushed under the carpet. The fact she and her husband has benefitted from the cheating is never mentioned.
Oh, she’s a devout Catholic…but one that doesn’t do forgiveness or understanding.
Lance is/was an utter dick…but she was too.
Simon E wrote:
That’s the kind of thing Lance’s supporters were saying for years… until she was finally shown to be 100% right.
Betsy Andreu is no fool.— fenix
fenix wrote:
“Betsy knows nothing” yeah right, of course she doesn’t. And she didn’t know anything about LA, until she did.
Good to see that you’ve used a misogynistic epithet just as Lance would have done (and did…)
Good for you!
fenix wrote:
what a load of BS
1 Lance never tested positive ,I.e he never got busted while riding .Did you watch Oprah ?
2 Why the fuck would Radcliffe bully team mates . Fucking stupid logic . She runs for herself .
3 is just stupid and not applicable.
yeah and all those ducking riders who have been caught doping who swore they never took anything until they got busted .
Oh yeah Radcliffe runs the fastest time for a woman in a marathon by a long way and destroying the times of busted woman fellow doping competitors and you think she is clean .
You think she is going to admit it . Protesting against other dopers means she hasn’t doped .fuck me what fucking world do you live in.
by the way Armstrong never bullied anyone into taking PEDs learn the facts .
Armstrong was following the code of doping that is rampant in sport , shhhhhhhh .
every fucking rider he raced against has been busted for doping even simeoni who he chased down got busted . Besty never opened her mouth when her husband was part of the postal/Armstrong money train did she . No she fucking didn’t. Once that train left the station she opens her mouth because her husband lost his contract and she was pissed . Don’t see other postal teammates complaining do you ?
Oh yeah landis and once again because he was left behind the Armstrong money train .
you know shit .
Radcliffe doped up to the eyeballs simple as that . Go check some of the DR s she has visited, you wouldn’t know where to start your to busy watching the BBC etc and suck that bull shit up .
Xena wrote:
what a load of BS
1 Lance never tested positive ,I.e he never got busted while riding .Did you watch Oprah ?
2 Why the fuck would Radcliffe bully team mates . Fucking stupid logic . She runs for herself .
3 is just stupid and not applicable.
yeah and all those ducking riders who have been caught doping who swore they never took anything until they got busted .
Oh yeah Radcliffe runs the fastest time for a woman in a marathon by a long way and destroying the times of busted woman fellow doping competitors and you think she is clean .
You think she is going to admit it . Protesting against other dopers means she hasn’t doped .fuck me what fucking world do you live in.
by the way Armstrong never bullied anyone into taking PEDs learn the facts .
Armstrong was following the code of doping that is rampant in sport , shhhhhhhh .
every fucking rider he raced against has been busted for doping even simeoni who he chased down got busted . Besty never opened her mouth when her husband was part of the postal/Armstrong money train did she . No she fucking didn’t. Once that train left the station she opens her mouth because her husband lost his contract and she was pissed . Don’t see other postal teammates complaining do you ?
Oh yeah landis and once again because he was left behind the Armstrong money train .
you know shit .
Radcliffe doped up to the eyeballs simple as that . Go check some of the DR s she has visited, you wouldn’t know where to start your to busy watching the BBC etc and suck that bull shit up . — fenix
Radcliffe beat her own WR which she’d set in windy conditions in Chicago in 2002, a course that saw a sub 2:06 in the men’s race (you understand what a 2:06 was at the time right right?) and many of the leading men setting PBs. Given her credentials it wasn’t surprising, she also ran a negative split, the men were 40s up on WR pace at the half way mark but faded somewhat into the wind in the last 2 miles, this is were Radcliffe was a bit smarter otherwise the men would have broken the WR too if they hadn’t gone off so fast, maybe they were all doped up to the gills as well, as well as everyone who ran a PB that day??
The London 2003 WR is clearly a bit too subtly different for people like you to understand, in that she ran with male pacesetters, that can positively effect a time particularly when you’re often running to win not beat records, she set out to beat the record from the get-go, that doesn’t happen that often in competition racing ( the multiple 800/1500/mile WR efforts in the 80s with Coe/Ovett etc was an exception). London has always been seen as a fast course with many WRs set there as well as Chicago and latterly Berlin (which is the place these days for WR marathons) and on the day in 2003 there were also favourable conditions.
The longer races certainly suited PR, the fact that she excelled at cross country as a junior always gave you an indication she was going to be strong in the longer races, she was usually caned in the 5 and even 10ks due to having no finish. She struggled with illness and her asthma at times and sometimes you only get to peak a few times in your career, London was one of them, she’d been in form, healthy, pace-setters, fast course, good weather conditions, and even her age (30 and just about at her peak for the longer distances) so a perfect maelstrom to beat the record, again, this rarely ever happens that everything is right for you as an athlete and with favourable conditions/setting to boot.
Did Radcliffe like all other athletes push the boundaries of the help they could legally get, of course, it would be naive to assume otherwise, but given your remark I presume you have a lot of data on her systematic doping regime you can produce and can be ratified?
As an aside, I happen to agree that the data with regards to climate change is shall we say somewhat disnegenuous and pulling up a graph saying this is what xx has said doesn’t convince me. However we have clear signs that some things are not right and changing the environment quickly in some places so we do need to change how we go about things on the planet.
People riding bikes more is something we all want to increase for so many reasons, producing less pollution and heat should be seen as a good side effects of that right? Reducing plastic production/consumption, producing fewer motor vehicles, using less energy/filling the pockets of the super rich less, eating less food, killing fewer people and/or displacing them due to operators of certain conveyances, weather changes etc are all good things no?
Xena wrote:
what a load of BS
1 Lance never tested positive ,I.e he never got busted while riding .Did you watch Oprah ?
2 Why the fuck would Radcliffe bully team mates . Fucking stupid logic . She runs for herself .
3 is just stupid and not applicable.
yeah and all those ducking riders who have been caught doping who swore they never took anything until they got busted .
Oh yeah Radcliffe runs the fastest time for a woman in a marathon by a long way and destroying the times of busted woman fellow doping competitors and you think she is clean .
You think she is going to admit it . Protesting against other dopers means she hasn’t doped .fuck me what fucking world do you live in.
by the way Armstrong never bullied anyone into taking PEDs learn the facts .
Armstrong was following the code of doping that is rampant in sport , shhhhhhhh .
every fucking rider he raced against has been busted for doping even simeoni who he chased down got busted . Besty never opened her mouth when her husband was part of the postal/Armstrong money train did she . No she fucking didn’t. Once that train left the station she opens her mouth because her husband lost his contract and she was pissed . Don’t see other postal teammates complaining do you ?
Oh yeah landis and once again because he was left behind the Armstrong money train .
you know shit .
Radcliffe doped up to the eyeballs simple as that . Go check some of the DR s she has visited, you wouldn’t know where to start your to busy watching the BBC etc and suck that bull shit up . — fenix
You stick to your body building Xena.
So all you have on Paula is that she ran fast. No whistle blower. No positives.
Betsy knows nothing about athletics. To infer that she’s like Armstrong because she threatened to sue a newspaper from printing lies is a huge leap.
what a load of BS
1 Lance never tested positive ,I.e he never got busted while riding .Did you watch Oprah ?
2 Why the fuck would Radcliffe bully team mates . Fucking stupid logic . She runs for herself .
3 is just stupid and not applicable.
yeah and all those ducking riders who have been caught doping who swore they never took anything until they got busted .
Oh yeah Radcliffe runs the fastest time for a woman in a marathon by a long way and destroying the times of busted woman fellow doping competitors and you think she is clean .
You think she is going to admit it . Protesting against other dopers means she hasn’t doped .fuck me what fucking world do you live in.
by the way Armstrong never bullied anyone into taking PEDs learn the facts .
Armstrong was following the code of doping that is rampant in sport , shhhhhhhh .
every fucking rider he raced against has been busted for doping even simeoni who he chased down got busted . Besty never opened her mouth when her husband was part of the postal/Armstrong money train did she . No she fucking didn’t. Once that train left the station she opens her mouth because her husband lost his contract and she was pissed . Don’t see other postal teammates complaining do you ?
Oh yeah landis and once again because he was left behind the Armstrong money train .
you know shit .
Radcliffe doped up to the eyeballs simple as that . Go check some of the DR s she has visited, you wouldn’t know where to start your to busy watching the BBC etc and suck that bull shit up .
— Xena You stick to your body building Xena. So all you have on Paula is that she ran fast. No whistle blower. No positives. Betsy knows nothing about athletics. To infer that she’s like Armstrong because she threatened to sue a newspaper from printing lies is a huge leap.— fenix
i write what the fuck I want , on any subject I choose . Wtf experience do you have of athletes at a high level . Lance had no positives , infact loads of athletes passed countless tests . What I do know and it’s a fact , no fucking clean athlete can run nearly 2 minutes faster than her doped up rivals , most of Paula’s rivals were busted . Paula also made visits to well known Drs who don’t have a clean reputation , this is documented. Why is it that you want to believe that sport is clean , yet thousands of athletes have been busted . It’s ridiculous to think she is clean especially the times she has put together. You have every right to think she is clean but your deluded . I suppose you think bolt is clean as well ? Everyone of his teammates got busted for doping . You think he was clean, was he fuck . He visited the same German dr as Paula when aged 15 in Munich because he had a cold ! Seriously a cold . Could you imagine the effect of athletics if bolt was outed . It would be a disaster same with mo . He trained in Kenya , nearly all his teammates, infact I think it may be all them got busted but somehow mo was clean then he s with Salazar seriously ? By the way team Oregon sponsored by Nike .,,,,,who was being paid a shit load by Nike , Seb Coe that’s who . See how it goes . Corrupt as fuck . Wake up mate .
fenix wrote:
She also actively promoted Nike and just this week spoke glowingly about NOP. Those of us who know athletics and have been involved with it for, in my case 25 years+, have always had our suspicions over Paula. They super human results, the disappearing for months and then coming back and smashing records, the fairly steady progression and then BANG a huge improvement. She may not have been demanding these things but her coach (husband) was not exactly a supportive influence…and now he coaches Mo. Betsy may not know about athletics…or she may. She may not need to, she has been in and around drug taking athletes for a long time and I bet can spot the signs.
Oh, Paula would do well to publish her data…if it was all fine and dandy it would shut us all up wouldn’t it?
Paula Radcliffe’s assertion
Paula Radcliffe’s assertion that she would sue if named as a doper, and that the newspaper would not be getting its money back a la Lance Armstrong, is exactly what she would say, whether or not she had anything to hide. It reveals nothing other than a confidence that the paper would not be able to prove its claim. And that would either be because she did not dope, or testing could not prove that she had, which pretty much amounts to the same thing.
We sometimes think the lines are well defined, but the Salazar evidence reveals someone who tried to see exactly how the system could be stretched – take a banned substance but not enough to be caught, or take something that is very likely to be banned but isn’t yet, or something very similar to a banned substance, or get a handy TUE. These grey areas are a part of the rules and we don’t have anything else to use.
But the problem for Radcliffe, Mo Farah and others is guilt by association. You don’t want to sack a coach or move stable because of rumours of doping or getting too close to what may be a fuzzy line. But equally, working with some of these guys does smack of hanging out with the Krays, legitimate businessmen creating jobs in the East End night club industry, and ignoring strong hints that they might just, on occasion, have had a slightly darker side.
I recall Paula’s “positive”
I recall Paula’s “positive” tests were rubbished because she was tested post event when still dehydrated thereby concentrating otherwise normal levels. Paula has no case to answer. Smear campaigns are nasty.
Betsy: Abba or the Bee Gees,
Betsy: Abba or the Bee Gees, Paula?
Paula: Abba.
Betsy: I was always told you were the female version of Armstrong. Thanks for confirming.
I’m conflicted as to whether
I’m conflicted as to whether this is in cycling’s “lane” or not, but never mind: athletics clearly has had, and probably still has, a problem with PEDs. The IAAF has been considerably less vocal and visible in its attempts to stamp out cheating – witness the number of athletes still being picked up only by delayed retesting of London 2012 results!
As with cycling, you must either make a choice: watch, enjoy performances for what they are, understanding that at some point in the future you might find out they weren’t clean, or don’t watch. With cycling I choose to watch but there are certain athletes whose performances I don’t celebrate; with athletics I consider that so many of them are cheating I mostly don’t watch. Certainly the distance running events are nothing more than a joke.
Either way – if I was looking for a British athlete with skeletons in the back of the fridge, it wouldn’t be Radcliffe at the top of that list… someone who was a competent but not-quite-winning middle distance runner before training in Africa, picking up two golds and promptly retiring would get that prize.
Until it turns out that
Until it turns out that Radcliffe was bullying colleagues into staying quiet there is no comparison.
I am sick of the cycling media ignoring that Armstrong wasn’t just a cheat; he was a foul bully who ruined people’s lives to keep his secret. That’s why people fondly remember the likes of Pantani while knowing that Armstrong is utter scum.
That’s a pretty libellous
That’s a pretty libellous statement from Betsy about Paula!
Could be an interesting few months coming up…
LastBoyScout wrote:
Andreu goes on to comment further on:
“There are many more questions to be asked, that’s for sure. I think some investigative journalists should do their work and reveal to the public the threats, intimidations and quashing of stories that have gone on.”
Not sure if this relates to Radcliffe specifically, or the wider problem, but it does suggest she knows more?
No one has been able to get
No one has been able to get near Paula’s 16-year-old WR time despite a load of doped up East Africans giving it a good crack.
“I’m sorry you don’t believe in miracles.”
Jackson wrote:
Bob Beman’s long jump World Record? Jonathan Edward’s Triple Jump World Record? Choose your own facts….
Captain Vimes wrote:
Beryl Burton’s 12 hour record , Seb Coe’s 800 metre record?
Not even Lance’s off-scores
Not even Lance’s off-scores hit 115. Yeah of course she was clean LOL
Well, despite global warming,
Well, despite global warming, the ancient signs of fall are upon us. Chill in the evening air, leaves turning color, people’s thought turning slowly away from outdoor activities, certain cycling websites trying to juice up the “click count” by dragging out old references to Armstrong…
ttchamp wrote:
wake the fuck climate change is BS .check the link see for your self
Hers where your Greta comes from . Not organic but politically motivated check the link have a truth bomb .
https://youtu.be/9Jpk8Ix1CCg
Mr Mann of the IPCC wonder boy found guilty of scientific fraud . They make the data up . Check the link for your self
uphttps://principia-scientific.org/breaking-news-dr-tim-ball-defeats-michael-manns-climate-lawsuit/
if you want to really wake up take a look at this ,this interview is with the chap who I invented emails
https://youtu.be/_eKb9HigTQw
enjoy or stay asleep and be a sheep .
Xena wrote:
wake the fuck climate change is BS .check the link see for your self
Hers where your Greta comes from . Not organic but politically motivated check the link have a truth bomb .
https://youtu.be/9Jpk8Ix1CCg
Mr Mann of the IPCC wonder boy found guilty of scientific fraud . They make the data up . Check the link for your self
uphttps://principia-scientific.org/breaking-news-dr-tim-ball-defeats-michael-manns-climate-lawsuit/
if you want to really wake up take a look at this ,this interview is with the chap who I invented emails
https://youtu.be/_eKb9HigTQw
enjoy or stay asleep and be a sheep . — ttchamp
It’s so lucky that we have a plucky band of billionaires, politicians and oil companies to bust this conspiracy by 95% of the worlds scientists
Xena wrote:
wake the fuck climate change is BS .check the link see for your self
Hers where your Greta comes from . Not organic but politically motivated check the link have a truth bomb .
SNIP – lots of links to so-called alternative facts ;-). )
Enjoy or stay asleep and be a sheep . — ttchamp
I am curious: when you say climate change is BS, do you mean that you don’t think that the climate is changing or that you don’t think that human activities have affected/caused said changes?
brooksby wrote:
please take a look ,at both vids . The 1st will show you how the IPCC , government manipulated the data on more than one occasion
the second video will give you an idea of what’s going on in academia right now and how corrupt it is and the 3rd vid will open up your eyes to the big picture of what’s going on .
try this ,https://youtu.be/hJujb-VnaCM
now look at this interview with the chap who invented email https://youtu.be/_eKb9HigTQw
https://youtu.be/3PrY7nFbwAY
Xena wrote:
You haven’t actually answered my question…
Xena wrote:
I don’t think a youtube video is going to open my eyes as they inevitably talk a load of rubbish without any proof or references. The reason they use videos is to catch out gullible people (i.e. people who already want to believe in vast conspiracies and thus feel validated by the rubbish in the video).
Xena wrote:
He didn’t event email. It was already in use.
hirsute wrote:
please take a look ,at both vids . The 1st will show you how the IPCC , government manipulated the data on more than one occasion
the second video will give you an idea of what’s going on in academia right now and how corrupt it is and the 3rd vid will open up your eyes to the big picture of what’s going on .
try this ,https://youtu.be/hJujb-VnaCM
now look at this interview with the chap who invented email https://youtu.be/_eKb9HigTQw
https://youtu.be/3PrY7nFbwAY
— Xena He didn’t event email. It was already in use.— ttchamp
He definitely didn’t invent email, but he did write “The Internet Publicity Guide: How To Maximize Your Marketing And Promotion In Cyberspace.” which is probably a clue as to how authentic he is. He’s also a rich Republican if that’s any relevance to his views.
hawkinspeter wrote:
Without an inappropriate squirrel gif, your post lacks any authenticity.
hirsute wrote:
please take a look ,at both vids . The 1st will show you how the IPCC , government manipulated the data on more than one occasion
the second video will give you an idea of what’s going on in academia right now and how corrupt it is and the 3rd vid will open up your eyes to the big picture of what’s going on .
try this ,https://youtu.be/hJujb-VnaCM
now look at this interview with the chap who invented email https://youtu.be/_eKb9HigTQw
https://youtu.be/3PrY7nFbwAY
— Xena He didn’t event email. It was already in use.— ttchamp
Typical of Xena’s type that he takes that dubious claim at face value without doing even the tiny bit of research needed to check it. The guy wrote an email program as a geeky teenager in 1979. There’s no evidence that subsequent email programs derived from his, nor that his was the first. The claim appears to be pure self-promotion. Lots of geeky teens were writing programs in 1979 (including me) but they don’t claim to have ‘invented’ whatever type of program they wrote (space invaders knock-off in my case – maybe I ‘invented video games’?)
I don’t like the phrase ‘…
I don’t like the phrase ‘… really cheating.’ used by Radcliffe, it suggests that some forms of cheating (TUE’s anyone?) should not be taken seriously.
In this case she is voicing what she imagines Salazar was thinking, her own opinion may be substantially different.
Bill H wrote:
Her opinion is that, she is a paid Nike mouthpiece (like Cram) and they never, never go off on one about Nikes antics. They defend the swoosh in this instance, they defend Salazar, they defend Nike funding the lab and doctor involved, they defend Nike actively working to get Gatlin off his 8 year ban, they defend Nike funding Salazars legal team and continuing to do so. Nike are the bad guys here and those who take the $ are no better. Everyone impartial in athletics has known it for decades.
Passive aggressive much Betsy
Passive aggressive much Betsy – Radcliffe may or may not have cheated but the leap Betsy makes could win the pole vault clean, without a pole.
Athletes need to be held accountable but so do the media – if they had enough evidence then surely it would have been revealed.
bill H, I agree, her comments
bill H, I agree, her comments seem to suggest that everyone is pushing the limits. So the tests designed to give a bit of ‘wiggle room’ for those that may be different are pushed to the limits by everyone ‘cheating’ up to the line. So is nobody actually competing drug free, just within a prescribed set of limits?
Poor journalism by road.cc
Poor journalism by road.cc
she said she heard people were calling Paula the Lance Armstrong of athletics m not that’s what she thought
Hey Xena, you’ve not done 9
Hey Xena, you’ve not done 9/11 yet.
Anything you think we should know?
He didn’t invent emails,
He didn’t invent emails, email systems had already been in use for a few years.
As for Radcliffe. I will
As for Radcliffe. I will always remember her sitting at the side of the road in tears just a few km from the finish line at the Greek Olympics. I sometimes wonder about that. I wonder if maybe the tears were because she knew she would fail the drug test if she crossed the finish line. And of course not crossing the finish line only cements the opinion of English patriots that she could never be a doper. Now a multi millionaire living in Monaco. No couldn’t possibly be a doper and no reason to be as I snuggle up next to the fire with the Sunday Times Supplement on a cold autumnal Sunday afternoon.
Didn’t the athletes at the 84
Didn’t the athletes at the 84 Olympics all answer a question about would take 50/50 on your life for a gold medal and 93% said yes?
That’s the mentality of athletes. Don’t put cheating out of their radar.
Wouldn’t it be marvellous if
Wouldn’t it be marvellous if spending a few hours trawling youtube videos of questionable provenance and then applying “common sense” to a pile of speculation and unsupported “facts” could make you into some kind of recognised authority on pretty much any subject?
Xena is very angry, steroids
Xena is very angry, steroids can do that to a person… Xena is the Lance of cycling forums, Betsy agrees!
Hawkinspeter is the squirrel
Hawkinspeter is the squirrel version of Lance Armstrong. Allegedly.
Rick_Rude wrote:
Nothing to see here
That’s a tall tail…
That’s a tall tail…
Xena is either a troll or an
Xena is either a troll or an idiot, so best not bother with her drivel I suggest….