A Manchester cyclist who was threatened by a driver after filtering past stationary traffic has been warned by Greater Manchester Police (GMP) that his “behaviour in this regard is to cease.”
In the video above, shot yesterday morning, the cyclist, Sam, can be seen pulling onto Princess Street and filtering between two lanes of traffic queuing at a set of lights.
Filtering is not illegal. The Highway Code says that people should “be aware of other road users, especially cycles and motorcycles who may be filtering through the traffic.”
British Cycling gives advice on filtering on the inside, outside and between lanes.
As Sam nears the lights, they change to green, at which point he attempts to pull back into the line of traffic on his left.
The woman driving on his inside doesn’t let him in and tells him he should be riding on the left.
Sam points out he is not obliged to.
The dispute escalates and finishes with the motorist threatening to knock Sam off ‘next time’.
Sam, who said the driver had also been on the phone, subsequently sent the footage to GMP.
The officer who responded said: “This video clip shows you squeezing between vehicles and the lights changing then you being alongside entering into an argument with the driver of a moving vehicle.
“To be clear your behaviour in this regard is to cease.
“I understand your wish to help improve road safety, this is not the way to do it, it is not the intention of the service we offer and if repeated I will direct my team to consider criminal offences.”
GMP were contacted for comment.




















57 thoughts on “Filtering cyclist who was threatened by driver blamed by police”
Well, that’s a very clear
Well, that’s a very clear case of “raise a complaint against the police” if ever I saw one. How can they ignore blatant threats from the car driver?
Ah she was in a rush to get
Ah she was in a rush to get the arse of the next vehicle along and wait in traffic to be delayed by a second or two.
If he’s a commuter, and so is
If he’s a commuter, and so is she, then they probably go along a similar route each day. If there was another incident involving the same driver and the same cyclist, and he did get knocked off, would it be aggravated by being clearly premeditated? (after all, we have it on film that she’s promised to knock him off ‘next time’…?).
yup, complain. I’d be
yup, complain. I’d be willing to let them try and bring a case.
Clear threat made against him to cause bodily harm….how the F can the police totaly ignore it.
I cycle down there reguarly and its a total nightmre, good on him for remaining polite.
Would love to know what
Would love to know what criminal offence the officer would consider. If only it was his job to know the law.
Toffee wrote:
Probably “using the public road whilst on a bicycle”.
Offences commited by cyclist
Offences commited by cyclist : 0
Offences commited by driver : Several.
Passing the stop line before the lights go green (She’s rolling into the ASL over her stop line before the lights changed, without this fact he might well have got fully clear of her)
Agrevated and threatening behaviour : Making a definitive threat to assault him in the future.
Mobile use (from Cyclist’s verbal evidence, although didn’t see it on film)
StuInNorway wrote:
Erm, that was the white car (and bus) in front. Still offences by drivers, just not her.
The cyclist was 100% in the
The cyclist was 100% in the right and the car driver 100% in the wrong; put a complaint in to the PCC – it’s the only way to go with this one.
Institutionally anti cyclist
Institutionally anti cyclist
This country is nuts
This country is nuts
I wonder what Chris Boardman
I wonder what Chris Boardman would say about GMP’s response?
I reported this last year –
I reported this last year – taxi driver glibly reading a newspaper as he drives along.
https://youtu.be/QM5bOiQnIiA
The Met refused to prosecute, on the grounds that a full 30+ seconds after I saw him reading his newspaper, I rode to the right of a set of cones.
The useless twats can’t even lie convincingly.
cycle.london wrote:
What?!
So your “crime” invalidates the actions of the taxi driver ???
hirsute wrote:
Most of the T and C’s of these video uploads also state that the Police have to chase all offenses seen in the video including the submitting persons one. It was hard to tell he was reading it and not say, moving it somewhere else though so I doubt it would have been chased up, however I didn’t know bollards randomly dumped in parts of the road indicated don’t drive around them? How would you know whic was the legal side?
hirsute wrote:
That’s not uncommon. The police often want to see 2 mins before and 2 mins after the incident you’re reporting and if your riding is anything less than what they deem as perfect cycling, the complaint will be thrown out because you were doing something dangerous, illegal, inciting, selfish or wrong. Or what they think constitutes any of those. Too far out from the kerb, too close to it, too fast, too slow. Wrong side of a traffic island. Escaping being squashed by mounting the pavement. That’s not the fault of the driver turning into you obviously, that’s you committing a crime by riding on the pavement…
Yep, GM Police are up there
Yep, GM Police are up there with Hampshire as being some of the most anti-cycling around. There are one or two good ones, sadly most are utterly clueless about cycling and – judging from the appalling standards of driving in the city – not remotely inclined to do anything about improving road safety either.
The state of the roads in and around Manchester, the traffic on them and the atrocious “cycling infrastructure” all combine to engineer and create conflict rather than mitigate it. I’ll keep a look out for that car, I’m sure I’ll see it stuck in a traffic jam soon!
edit: just watched the video again and fuck me, the SIZE of that car?!
I cannot see anything the
I cannot see anything the cyclist doing that was wrong, let alone against the law.
Good video from BC on filtering, well done for showing it, I will be watching all of the commuting videos from them at some point, you never know, there may have been something I have not yet figured out yet.
ktache wrote:
Well, to be picky…
…the cyclist does hang around in a lane for oncoming right-turning traffic in order to continue the argument, instead of completing their overtaking manoeuvre as soon as they can. Hardly warrants this kind of threatening cease-and-desist language though – a simple suggestion that this wasn’t the best decision making would have done. Nor is it any excuse for not pursuing a threat of violence against them. And the implication that they shouldn’t be filtering is just plain wrong.
Brilliant !……well done
Brilliant !……well done the police.
Motorcyclists and cyclists drifting in and out pushing and shoving demanding others make way for them Is a hazard to other road users and pedestrians and makes driving in congested traffic even more stressful.
This cyclist is all over the place. Observing the quoted 1.5m rule in such traffic and on such narrow lanes is difficult and one he obviously doesnt intend living by himself. I think he’s learnt his cycling skills from a computer game he played when a child.
Yes, the woman who expressed her concern could have done it differently but she was probably not the only driver wondering “where’s that cyclist heading next “.
Cameras are wonderful things but they can also show us all how selfish a cyclist the complainant acrually is…….get in line, follow the flow of traffic and no it isn’t safe to travel at speed in such sttings weaving in and out of drivers field of vision.
Brilliant !……well done
Brilliant !……well done the police.
Motorcyclists and cyclists drifting in and out pushing and shoving demanding others make way for them Is a hazard to other road users and pedestrians and makes driving in congested traffic even more stressful.
This cyclist is all over the place. Observing the quoted 1.5m rule in such traffic and on such narrow lanes is difficult and one he obviously doesnt intend living by himself. I think he’s learnt his cycling skills from a computer game he played when a child.
Yes, the woman who expressed her concern could have done it differently but she was probably not the only driver wondering “where’s that cyclist heading next “.
Cameras are wonderful things but they can also show us all how selfish a cyclist the complainant acrually is…….get in line, follow the flow of traffic and no it isn’t safe to travel at speed in such sttings weaving in and out of drivers field of vision.
disherwood wrote:
I realise you have popped on to troll, however tell me where he is weaving in and out of traffic in that video. I suspect you also didn’t watch the advice one from British Cycling which explains exactly what he was doing. And he was only stating the 1,5 m rule to ensure she didn’t veer into him whilst shouting shit advice of someone who doesn’t know what filtering is and why ASL’s take the whole lane and not just a small section on the left.
disherwood wrote:
He went down the cycle lane amd filtered between stationary traffic. Was then blocked and threatened to be knocked off. The police are so wrong in their response and you have no idea what its like to ride a bicycle in a city
disherwood wrote:
Another troll. Yawn.
The safe passing distance doesn’t apply to cyclists filtering past motorists, because, dimwit, cyclists don’t present a danger to a near stationary car. It’s really not the same thing – please try to understand basic physics before somebody dies.
disherwood wrote:
Obviously you are much too lazy to use your legs to get around and rather drive as do so many like you and selfishly, pollute the air we breath and poisoning children to the extent that you are killing them in the 000s. Not only that, you are responsible for causing gridlocks by block up roads and obsructing and causing a hazzard 2-wheeled transport. You should be fined for blocking roads up and points on your licience and you should be forced to breath in your own exaust fumes.
disherwood wrote:
Hey dishcloth, or whatever your name is, why don’t you fuck off back to the daily mail website.
disherwood wrote:
You need to reread The Highway Code as soon as possible. Filtering by cyclists and motorcyclists is allowed in the UK. If you find this hard to deal with, I strongly suggest you take some frefresher lessons to improve your driving. If you still find that too much, perhaps you should give up driving altogether as you are clearly not fit to be trusted with a motor vehicle, especially when there are vulnerable road users at risk from your inadquate driving ability.
“We’ve got enough to deal
“We’ve got enough to deal with without cyclists upsetting the natural order of things that we all grind along together and cyclists stay in the gutter” goes the chat in the GMP staff canteen.
The way I see it, each of us uses our advantage – in the cyclist’s case, we use agility and size to weave in and out ( of this situation entirely created by the car, but let’s not talk about that). When he gets a clear stretch of road the motorist puts his foot down and goes.
We catch him in the next queue – his is merely an illusion of speed – so it goes on.
Urgh. Ugliest accent in the
Urgh. Ugliest accent in the English speaking world, without a doubt.
Urgh. Ugliest accent in the
Urgh. Ugliest accent in the English speaking world, without a doubt.
I think the cyclist should
I think the cyclist should reply to the police, cc:ing Cycling UK, Chris Boardman and others, to ask for clarification about what behaviour is to cease, and on what authority the police are saying that, what laws has he broken, what criminal offnces would they consider, and to find out if they have (and if not, why not?) also instructed the car driver not to enter into an argument with and threaten the driver of a moving vehicle (the cyclist) while in control of her own moving vehicle, and why they think the intention of their service is not to help improve road safety.
Isn’t the cyclist in the
Isn’t the cyclist in the right turn lane, but then goes straight on? Really he should have dropped in behind. Cyclists shouldn’t bully cars into giving them space either!
The driver was being an arse too. I’d say 50:50 on this one. It’s similar to the bus from yesterday.
alan sherman wrote:
he’s filtering to get to the ASL. ASLs were invented so that cyclists can filter to them and get a head start, removing them from a conflict and danger zone. It’s 0:100 on this one.
This reminds me of the video
This reminds me of the video showing a cyclist being passed by a Jag far too close and then riding down a cycle route, submitted to the Met, then the police told him he would be prosecuted for riding on the pavement. Anyone remember that one, anyone have any idea how it got sorted? Did the officer apologise proffusely?
I did do a bit of a search and came up with some interesting old road.cc stuff, one featuring our friend cycling.mikey riding a recumbent. Interesting comments about that one
ktache wrote:
I remember that one
Also less clear cut but that one but the one where the cyclist held onto the car and was literally rammed into the building at the end of the bridge and they would only prosecute the car driver if the cyclist accepted the prosecution against him for holding onto the vehicle to argue.
i wont bother reporting
i wont bother reporting anything to the police- they dont care, and if they even did, they havent got time for it. Rider is 100 percent right, lady is actually breaking the law herself. It is illegal to obstruct a highway without good excuse or reason. This lady is driving at an average speed below a walking pace, obstructing faster road users and people who NEED to be there, such as bus and van drivers. She should be prosecuted for not using the bus service that is provided for her and getting in EVERYONES way, not just the cyclists.
gaz rides wrote:
It’s just one officer. I’ve used GMP’s online reporting portal a few times now, so far this year I’ve had two drivers pay for and attend expensive courses for their angry close passes. I’ve also used Cheshire Police’s portal and they’ve also accepted my footage, although I haven’t heard back from them yet.
I probably wouldn’t have reported this lady because I tend to focus on the deliberate, “holy shit that was frightening” stuff. I’d have been tempted to unscrew my water bottle and chuck the contents in her face though.
Peowpeowpeowlasers wrote:
…and get yourself charged with assault?
By engaging in conversation
By engaging in conversation whilst in charge of moving vehicles both driver and cyclist equally leave themselves open to the carelessness charge of “without due care and attention”
Max penalty £1000.
Sandy14 wrote:
2500 and 3-9 points for a driver.
hirsute wrote:
You’ve less chance of a judge handing out that penalty to a motorist than you or I getting touched up by Mother Theresa of Calcutta!
BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
#MeToo
Sandy14 wrote:
So anyone driving that has a conversation with any of their passengers is up for the same charge then right? Christ there are some morons about
I’m just wondering if a
I’m just wondering if a driver who obtained video of cyclist threatening them would have the case dismissed by the police if they were seen exceeding the speed limit, or encroaching on an ASL or parking on double yellows?
This Manchester cop threating
This Manchester cop threating a vulnerable cyclist with illegal action only proves how anti-cylist fascists cops are and guilty of inciting hatred and should be disciplined as should this maniac female driver and charged with threatening to murder with a life driving ban. However, we know cops will only take action against dangerous drivers when one of there own is hurt or threatened untill then, they’ll continue picking on cyclists and aid and abet dangerous drivers.
Are these responses with
Are these responses with implied threats actually being made by GMP staff with authority or just no mark admin staff who’s boots are a getting too big?
bikeman01 wrote:
I thibk this is probably the case. I suspect coppers don’t actually view this footage and leave it to civilian staff, most of whom are recently retired busybodies with fuck all else to do in their lives who like to feel important by ‘volunteering’. Basically, Gammons. Suspect that, if there’s a complaint made about this, GMP will respond and apologise – and the Mail reading muppet who got ideas above his station will be redeployed to something more commensurate with his (and it’s pretty much universally a ‘him’) abilities (making the desk sergeant a cuppa)
You have to understand, the review of footage from cyclists will be seen as so low down the force’s priorities as to register as nothing more than an annoyance to them – the more they can hive off to unpaid, untrained volunteers, the better. Small price to have to pay if they only have to investigate, say, 20 a year out of 1000 incidents submitted to them and summarily rejected by the fool acting as a glorified shit filter
Police are good for nothing
Police are good for nothing nowadays . We have had facial vans in the met recently, cover your face and you get fined like a chap did £90 . The police don’t prevent anything . They turn up after . The mostly power tripping idiots who with out a uniform have no self esteem. Instead of harassing cyclists or car drivers or any misdemeanour, how about actually helping people and not treating people like they have done something wrong . Police , we pay your wages start treating people with respect. The world is turning to shI& …technocratic facist state .
Eh?! This is a clear case of
Eh?! This is a clear case of the driver being annoyed that she has been overtaken. Anyone with even a vaugue understanding of traffic rules can see that. This GIMP officer needs educating or sacking!
I guess I’m not the only one here who has encountered exactly the same situation and it is so, so dangerous. GMP ought to take the opportunity to make the point that you should not risk the life of another road user just to hopelessly defend your position in a queue of slow moving traffic.
I’m not sure the cyclists
I’m not sure the cyclists choices look very safe to me, but that’s applying my own personal level of bravery / risk assessment / whatever you want to call it, and each to their own: based on my own (possibly incomplete) knowledge, I don’t see he actually contravened the law/highway code per se.
The woman ought to be ashamed of herself for the comments though, but you can’t charge her with anything for getting cross and mouthing off, otherwise half the country would be clogging the magistrates courts with similar offences!
(But seriously, where did this whole concept of it being “normal” to say foul things to each other – in public – come from? That’s what’s wrong with this country etc etc chunter, grumble, etc,etc.)
On a related note: In the BC video the voice over says “avoid hopping onto the pavement to dodge traffic” – I have been told (by a veteran cyclist, nothing official) that riding on the pavement for short periods to avoid hazards is acceptable / allowable IF it is safer than the road, and you are not endagering / hassling other footpath users – (although to be fair the person telling me this was talking about the context of low/ poor light conditions)…anybody have any facts to confirm / deny that?
Crashboy wrote:
See the guidance for police here: https://news.npcc.police.uk/releases/support-for-police-discretion-when-responding-to-people-cycling-on-the-pavement
In short “
The introduction of the fixed penalty is not aimed at responsible cyclists who sometimes feel obliged to use the pavement out of fear of the traffic, and who show consideration to other pavement users.
“Chief police officers, who are responsible for enforcement, acknowledge that many cyclists, particularly children and young people, are afraid to cycle on the road, sensitivity and careful use of police discretion is required.”
Htc wrote:
Thanks for that…interesting to note the “varies according to local circumstances” part. We all like to think the Law is consistent everywhere in this country – unlike the different American States for example – but I don’t think that’s the case…as these forums show!
There could be a difference
There could be a difference in the views of the police in riding carefully on the footway for safety reasons and jumping on and off the pavement to make faster progress through traffic.
Watching the video, it ever
Watching the video, it ever so clearly demonstrates the fallacy in the urban motorist’s lament that bicycles hold up all the traffic and that without the bicycles everything would be free flowing like a car advert…

I’ve watched this twice. Poor
I’ve watched this twice. Poor driving skills by the lady, but I am more shocked, on the second viewing, by the state of the road surface.
efail wrote:
Thats actually not too bad for Manchester. You want to see some of the A6 leading into town, or the A56 leading out through Sale. It’s like riding on the surface of the moon
I’ve watched this twice. Poor
I’ve watched this twice. Poor driving skills by the lady, but I am more shocked, on the second viewing, by the state of the road surface.