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Live blog: Riding in ice & snow poll numbers crunched, ‘Where’s the money gone?’ Cycling campaigners ask MPs, Ski bike + snow shorts, Rugby riders, Marginal gains + One to make you feel old… and more
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Campaigners ask MPs where the money is for active travel
Representatives of Cycling UK, Sustrans and Living Streets yesterday grilled the House of Commons Select Committee on Transport over the Government’s Cycling and Walking Investment Strategy, telling MPs that its funding targets would not be met.
Ahead of the meeting, which you can watch below, Cycling UK’s Roger Geffen said: “Cycling is a miracle pill that can cure a lot of the ills this Government is facing with air pollution and the physical health problems associated with inactivity.
“However, by its own admission the Government is not going to meet its own modest targets to double cycling, which Cycling UK believes is due to inadequate funding. Cycling UK believes Government should rebalance its spending to local solutions to car dependence.
“It’s not the people currently cycling who will benefit from more funding, but rather those who feel forced to drive those short distances to school, work or the shops due to having no suitable alternative.”
Ian Bibby of Madison-Genesis wins Zwift's inaugural KISS Super League race
Ian Bibby is one of those riders who is big on the domestic scene – he’s won plenty of races in the UK, and is a former national cyclo-cross champion – but would be off the radar of anyone who confines their cycling viewing to TV coverage of the big races.
Last night in London, though, he set a first – and if Zwift’s hunch that virtual cycling takes off as an esport is correct, his name will be minted in its history as the first ever winner of a round of the KISS Super League.
Fair play also to whoever had already updated his Wikipedia page with his latest win by the time we went to double-check his palmares yesterday evening.
And @IanBibby86 wins the first #ZwiftKSL for Madison Genesis! What a great ride. Congratulations! pic.twitter.com/XTGNL1T4sT
— Zwift (@GoZwift)
Pro athletes are picking pickle juice to protect their pins from cramping... would you?
The BBC reports on the growing sight of professional sportsmen and women downing pickle juice, the idea being that the high levels of sodium helps to keep cramp at bay. American tennis player Frances Tiafoe credited his victory against Grigor Dimitrov in the last 16 of the Australian Open to the sharp-tasting substance… although he did go and lose in straight sets against Rafael Nadal in the next round.
Dr Mayur Ranchordas, a sport nutrition and exercise metabolism lecturer at Sheffield Hallam University, told the Beeb that he has recommended pickle juice to professional cyclists, but it’s not simply the high salt content that keeps the cramps at bay:
“Pickle juice contains sodium, potassium and vinegar and the obvious conclusion would be that it replaces sodium and salts lost when playing sport in a hot and humid environment like the Australian Open thus prevent cramping.
“However, how it really works is that it triggers a reflex in the mouth which sends a signal to stop muscles from cramping. That’s why it is drank at the onset of cramp. It stops cramping 40% faster than drinking water.”
More Madison news... Pearl Izumi are 2019 kit sponsors, and new jersey is revealed
Here’s squad member Ian Bibby modelling the new gear, with an orange-to-black fade, their trademark houndstooth pattern and flashes of turquoise to complement the Genesis Zero SL Disc race bikes. They were debuting the kit in the KISS Super League event last night.
Biniam Girmay Hailu of Eritrea the first rider born in the 21st century to win UCI event, according to statto Cillian Kelly
First male rider born in the 21st century to win a UCI race https://t.co/xKPhGrfeP6
— Cillian Kelly (@irishpeloton) January 23, 2019
18-year-old Hailu won stage 3 of Gabon’s La Tropicale Amissa Bongo, part of the UCI Africa Tour, and according to cycling stat master Cillian Kelly that makes him the first rider born since the year 2000 to win a UCI event.
Do you still ride through the ice and snow? The poll results are in...
In yesterday’s live blog we ran a poll asking if you still ride when there’s ice and snow outside… hell no? Stick to the turbo? Snow’s good but not ice? Or are you from the school of hard knocks and would still ride your bike towards the path of an avalanche? The poll results suggest it’s the latter, with 39% of you saying ‘I ride in all weathers come rain, sleet, ice and snow’ (if you were guilty of embellishing your hardiness when voting feel free to own up in the comments below, though). Interestingly the second most popular option is to bin riding off all together, which 24% of you voted for… this poll was more divided than Brexit!
Never mind the bike... SHORTS!?!?
F*@&ing shorts, and a skinsuit!! We’ll be keeping an eye on the Dafne Fixed Insta to see if this nutter can actually ride the bike/ski contraption, made all the more difficult by hypothermia no doubt…
We also reported on a compilation of the best Dafne Fixed bloopers on Tuesday, check them out here.
And as if to answer our question, here's the ski-bike in action!
We were literally just wondering if this skinsuit-wearing mentalist’s contraption would work, and indeed it does! Unfortunately Instagram is being naughty this morning and won’t allow us to embed the video, so here’s a screenshot for now and be sure to head over to the Dafne Fixed Instagram page to see it in action.
Canyon dhb p/b Bloor Homes team choose blue for 2019 race bikes
Blue isn’t your favourite colour, but it is the colour of the 2019 Canyon dhb p/b Bloor Homes Aeroad CF SLX, which has been revealed this week.
The team are riding the aero Aeroad with Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 and Hunt 50mm carbon fibre wheels shod with the new Maxxis High Road tyres.
Silca boss launches "Marginal Gains" podcast
Josh Poertner, the boss of Silca, makers of high-end pumps and tools, has launched a podcast called Marginal Gains which aims to “discuss the theories and benefits of Marginal Gains through systematic approaches to development.”
The first episode is available now and we’re off to have a listen.
The idea is that these gains can have an outsized impact when measured in aggregate. This is one of Poertner’s primary areas of expertise. Since his days at Zipp, moving forward into re-founding of the historic Silca brand, he has made a career of approaching solutions in an analytical fashion and striving for perfection in product.
In the first episode, Poertner, Hottie and Fatty obsess over about what marginal gains are, why they matter, and the huge difference Josh has seen them make in designing components and methods for World, Olympic and Tour de France champions, including a few never before told anecdotes from the pro peloton.
From there it’s a jump into the deep end of conceptual thinking in cycling exploring related tangents in auto-racing, with discussions to come including topics like the benefits of asymmetry and non-linearity, supercomputing and aerospace. Future panels will also grow to include other significant and iconic voices from the worlds of bicycles, gear, racing, and even the culinary world. Marginal Gains– a show for the thinking cyclist.
Two rugby fans are riding over 20,000 km to deliver the ref's whistle for the first match of the Rugby World Cup this summer
Ron Rutland and James Owens will cycle 20,093km from London to Tokyo to arrive just in time for Rugby World Cup 2019, which will take them through 26 countries and take over 321 days, riding for 30-40 hours a week. They’ve partnered with delivery firm DHL for the challenge, click here to find out more and donate to the ChildFund Pass It Back charity, the official charity of the Rugby World Cup 2019 for which they are fundraising.
Zwift eSports: the grass roots
While the big stars of the new KISS racing league were doing their thing with the lights and the disco music in a London venue, the reality of Zwift racing is that even at the highest level, for some it’s bibs-and-no-top-in-your-living-room stuff. Here’s Pat Christopher, who raced to 11th behind some of the big names of the domestic scene from an apartment in Alicante…
Poll results analysis: Do you ride in ice and snow, well do ya?
Yes, yes, of course you do – well, a significant proportion of you who must all be quite weathered looking. Although not everyone is a snow bird by any means.
Perhaps no surprises that the majority of road.cc uses appear to be a rufty tufty and probably slightly weathered bunch with 39 per cent of you saying you would ride in whatever nature chose to throw your way, followed by another 20 per cent taking the slightly more nuanced approach of pretty much everything but ice. So far so predictable, the first real surprise in terms of those willing to tackle riding in bad weather is that a full 4 per cent of you would chose to ride in ice rather than snow which the had the assembled road.cc psephologists scratching their heads – on the other hand 4 per cent is roughly the amount of traffic we get from the Netherlands so maybe it was the Dutch vote… or it’s about the percentage of people who might not read the question properly, this being the internet.
So that was all the people who’d go riding in wintry weather of one sort or another – the next single biggest tranch of votes – we’re calling it the sensible vote – were those who’d chose to take a day off the bike rather than risk a fall and have to spend weeks or months off the bike. Given the changing nature of the British weather a day is probably all that it would take before things went mild and mizzly again. As things have proved in large parts of the country this time around too.
Some members of the road.cc team amongst the sensible 25 per cent chiefly the ones who’ve fallen on black ice or frozen mud and ended up out of action for a couple of months – Top tip: if you’re going to crash try not to land on your elbow unless it’s a choice between that and your head or face.
Finally the second and possibly biggest surprise (to us) in the vote was the relatively low numbers opting to ride through the snow from the comfort of their lounge/kitchen/back bedroom or garage on smart trainer or rollers. Okay, maybe ‘comfort’ isn’t the right word in this context.
If you’re wondering how the less sensible members of the road.cc team voted? Mostly in the anything but ice camp – although there were a few who would chance it on the ice too so long as their ride was on a treated road… something that’s not always easy to predict. Funnily enough the thing most likely to put us off was cold rain that’s just too warm to be snow matched up with a strong wind. Yuk!
Those results in full
39 per cent – ‘Bring it on!’ Winter do your worst
24 per cent – ‘Don’t bring it on, it’ll be gone tomorrow anyway
20 per cent – Yes to snow, no to ice, the nuanced approach
13 per cent – It never snows in Wattopia. Probably
4 per cent – ride in ice but not snow – the definitive margin of error?
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@Rendel Harris Agree, I am baffled that the 84 year old who is now banned from driving for year can then start driving again without a retest. We should be re-tested regularly.
@mitsky Just checking the figures and apparently the 2026 average cost is £58,000 per year per prisoner; worth noting that is only the direct cost, you then have to factor in ten years of lost tax income from the prisoner, ten years that the prisoner is making no contribution to society as a worker or as a consumer, plus the fact that if they were the primary breadwinner very likely the costs will include benefits for their family as well. None of which should be a reason for keeping violent recidivists out of prison of course, nor drug/drink drivers who kill, but it is a factor worth considering for lower-level offences.
@Surreyrider I ride in Surrey a fair bit and absolutely many do look like that but the point is they all *think* they're driving perfectly reasonably (as one discovers when remonstrating with someone who's skimmed one by 30cm, "I gave you masses of room") so deterrent penalties have little effect. That's why we need to strike at the root cause and actually train drivers properly and test them stringently (and more than once over the course of a potential 70+ years of driving, it's absolutely absurd that competence and knowledge in what for most people is the activity in their life that will run the biggest risk of killing people you never have to have your qualifications renewed).
@mitsky Imprisonment currently costs over £50k p.a. per prisoner and obviously that will rise over the course of a ten-year stretch with inflation. Regarding culpability and mitigating sentences etc, of course I'm not against condign punishment for drivers who kill (and cyclists on the tiny, tiny handful of occasions when this happens), including prison as appropriate; I was objecting to the ridiculous and oft-repeated demand of MM that drivers who kill cyclists must get ten years, "no excuses, no exceptions".
Hey, but their wool blend cycling adjacent t-shirts are/were fantastic.
@Surreyrider Still the boss. Ride one, you'll see why
@Smoggysteve "Most would happily ride on the roads and be treated with respect by drivers". But people aren't - and as far as I can see they won't be. Not until there is a lot less driving and it's slower around cyclists, and far more people driving have "skin in the game" eg. they sometimes cycle and their friends and family do also. That's what leads to the model - which is perhaps most advanced in NL - where cycling, walking and driving are all seen as separate normal transport modes. Their needs, vulnerabilities and any dangers to others are considered. And *that* leads to "mix / share when possible, separate when necessary". But "possible" is "where your 10-year old would be safe to cycle unsupervised" - so very few motor vehicles, going slow! And AFAICS everybody - even "existing cyclists" - is happy with the result. (I dunno about a few pro cyclists - but don't they tend to have training camps in different counties anyway?)
@quiff as an Edinburgh resident I can confidently say he's speaking without moving his lips in one sense: - while as I noted in a separate comment there *is* now some real separated cycle infra, all the examples i can think of have *at least as much space* for pedestrians. The rest of the "cycle infra" is essentially similar to the situation in the rest of the UK: eg. bus lanes*, cycle lanes and shared use paths (eg. "build" infra by sticking up a sign). Edinburgh is one of the places with a moderately extensive network of former railways which have been converted to "shared use" paths (completely motor traffic few). However though shared they are not narrow by UK standards. And this is all effectively a "free extra" for all non- motorised users, not like the "sign a cycle path" where pedestrians do lose space. I think this all comes from the "popular understanding" of cycling in which ultimately cyclists are the "other". They don't fit "motor vehicle" or "pedestrian" (including wheelchairs on the very rare occasions people think about that). Thus "cyclists are cheating" in multiple ways! They shouldn't get their own space as "there aren't enough" of them. And "they can just use the road / path". But being able to *choose* "on the road" or "on the footway" (shared use path) is clearly unfair - nobody else gets to do that! BUT of course even if they did pick just one of road OR pedestrian space it's still not fair anyway because they're "too slow" for the road (don't pay "road tax" etc...) and "far too fast" for pedestrians... * Though some existing cyclists may appreciate them when there are few buses, buses and bikes are a very poor mix for several reasons.
Whilst a shame for any employees, their bib shorts had the worst chamois pad I’d ever encountered, utter waste of my money. Even though they were Strava challenge discount purchases, still a waste of money.
Thanks, just going to have to suck it up. Got next week off and will take the easy, if expensive option...
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If you do nothing else today,
If you do nothing else today, watch the first ten minutes of the select committee video; it’s a master class in everything that cycling and walking groups are fighting for.
Great to see that pedestrians and cyclists have got together to fight the common enemy, car domination and agree that there is a huge amount of common ground.
Fake News!!! LOL. (I have
Fake News!!! LOL. (I have never said or written that phrase before but it seems to be very popular in some circles here in the U.S.A.)
I see that Mr. Biniam Girmay Hailu was born on the 2nd of April in the year 2000.
The 20th Century ended on 31 December, 2000.
So I guess we are still waiting but we probably won’t have to wait long for a 21st Century born winner.
I’m still a big fan of Mr. Kelly!
(something to think about – you cannot spell HATRED without Red Hat)
Love to All!
Motown Jim wrote:
Yeah, no. I remember 99/00, that was the start/end of the millenium, you mustn’t have been invited to the party.
Organon wrote:
The other thing I’d bring back the death penalty for, after bike stealing, is saying “yeah-no”. It is such an abuse of language and so utterly nonsensical that the people who use it are clearly incapable of communicating on any rational level, and are best removed from the gene pool before they create more monsters.
If you stop them and ask them did they mean “yes” or “no” they look at you confused because they don’t remember saying it, and will vehemently deny saying it.
Motown Jim wrote:
So was the year 1900 not included in with all the other 19** as part of the 20th Century?
RobD wrote:
No.
There was no “year 0”. First century: years 1-100. Second century: 101-200. Third century: 201-300 . . . 19th century: 1801-1900. 20th century: 1901-2000. 21st century: 2001 – 2100.
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Burtthebike suddenly my hero
While we’re at it, how about adding in “absolutely” instead of “yes” or “and also as well” or “haitch”?
My wife has instructions to tell me if I start picking up any of the above bad habits. I have enough other bad habits!