road.cc live blog: abominable bus driving and more
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Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.
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Krislord 5 hours ago
I still don’t understand the changes they’ve made recently. They had an issue with discounting, so stopped that. The issue was never revenue though, it was the overheads as a percentage of revenue. As long as you sell the item above the manufacturing cost it’s still worth selling. They’re now covering the same overheads with less revenue. Beyond the finances, the product needs fixing too - the casual clothing was an easy way to push the brand yet underutilised with ridiculous prices. Hideous colours on all levels of the core and pro range - it’s like they went into the woods and decided to make everything beige, or washed out green. It’s frustrating as I want to buy rapha but they don’t make anything that appeals.
belugabob 7 hours ago
@eburtthebike but those are occupied by the previous incumbents (or they sold them for scrap)
Another_MAMIL 7 hours ago
@GravelIsNothingNew Undoubtedly, prices are exorbitant (coinciding with a cost-of-living crisis 🙄 ). But as Mr T said: “I pity the fool who buys Rapha outside their archive sales.”
KiwiMike 7 hours ago
@Pub bike here you see the challenge all reviews face: there’s a thousand ways to do any specific task on a bike. So any conclusion a reviewer comes to can be pulled apart by a thousand apples/oranges comparisons. It’s a bag that attaches to a bike. It works quite well. Other bags are available. Isn’t choice grand?
Mr Blackbird 7 hours ago
@wtjs Don't the police have to use this neutral language (nauseating as it is) so they can't be accused of jeopardising the eventual trial.
Rendel Harris 8 hours ago
@Ramz It's £45 for the navy blue version, £90 for all the other colours.
Pub bike 8 hours ago
Great write-up thanks! Lots of nice observations and useful details. Like you I met some lovely people on tour this year but I met almost all of them whilst waiting to board the ferry. I saw very few cycle tourists in the south of France in contrast to previous years. Maybe people were scared off by the heat (which wasn't that bad in early September) or are most people now bikepacking off-road and wild-camping?
ktache 9 hours ago
I highly recommend the 5 10 freeride range. 3 pairs at the moment, a pair in tan, fabric panels in suede, for the dry summer, better ventilation, a pair in black leather for when the going gets wet, and the plastic winter version, for when the going gets cold and very muddy. All excellent grip on my Shimano saints, dmr v12s and wellgo "v12s". Owned their spitfires for many years, my first cycling specific shoes.
Ramz 9 hours ago
"Buy Now for £45 from Endura" That is £45 per shoe, because the price on Endura is now £90 for a pair!
ktache 9 hours ago
David Byrne coffee cup bike racks. I think a few of these in a range of browns would be perfect.
19 thoughts on “road.cc live blog: abominable bus driving and more”
I’d love to know what (if
I’d love to know what (if anything!) was going through that bus driver’s mind as they approached a red light with a bike stopped in front of them… Glad the rider wasn’t injured
brooksby wrote:
I would imagine it was complete surprise – to find one of these damned cyclists not jumping a red light – after all don’t they all jump red lights all of the time!
That Fuji bike isnt ‘totalled
That Fuji bike isnt ‘totalled’.
totalled means completely written off. In the picture, the frame is completely fine as are the forks, the front wheel, BB, Cranks/crank set and shifters.
All she would need is a new rear wheel, cassette, rear derailleur, new chain and the bikes ready to go again as soon as you’ve tubed and tyre’d up.
I estimate the damage is going to cost at least £200-300 to repair but the bike is in no way a complete write off. It just needs nursing back to health.
However… If TFL want to pay for a new bike then thats also very a very welcome outcome.
RoubaixCube wrote:
Bloody hell! You’ve got good eyesight.
don simon wrote:
Just zoom in, the frame doesnt look bent up or mangled at all.
Another thing to consider is the angle of the impact. The bus almost hit it dead on and not from an angle. The bike looks at an angle in the picture is because the bus pushed it there when it came to a stop. There wouldnt of been barely ANY stress to the frame or rear triangle as the pressure was on the back wheel and the backwheel obviously collapsed from it. The frame didnt hit the ground or get dragged under the busses wheels either so its not crushed.
Bike is still fully salvagable and serviceable once its been repaired. Unless the bike has been in several other potentially serious accidents/collisions before that we dont know about. Im saying is the frame still looks pretty much good to go from the picture.
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You all dont need to agree, but this is just my own opinion based on my observation.
RoubaixCube wrote:
The main issue in all your observations is that you aren’t liable when it all goes wrong. Presume a shop (which will have to fill out a warranty form for TFL’s insurance) says the frame is fine and then something does go wrong, the shop is fully liable.
Also, given most shops don’t have a scanner to confirm the frames integrity it is a write off
RoubaixCube]
And yet you seemed so sure in your first post. I’m just glad that you’re not a bike mechanic.
don simon wrote:
I still am pretty sure actually. I think the bike is OK apart from the mangled wheel
RoubaixCube wrote:
My arse.
I would say that the cassette, rear derailleur & chain will have a better chance of being ok than the frame.
Biggest surprise for me is that the seat looks ok, if that had been my bike I think I’d have made a mess of it…
RoubaixCube wrote:
If the cost of repair is greater than the value of the item then it’s a write off.
*I don’t know the value of this bike though
Oh yes, no stresses will have
Oh yes, no stresses will have been passed through to the rear triangle (at minimum) at all.
1961BikiE wrote:
I was rear ended by a car which turned into a hit and run, the rear wheel, a 36 spoke Open pro/Dura Ace was completely pringled so the forces were pretty significant. Bike frame has being going strong with no alignment issues, or any other physical signs or out of place feelings in the 6 years since. Massive carbon seatstays IMO were the saving grace, that and the effect the tyre and wheel itself has at taking out some of the forces. People in the twatter thread were saying it would be on the axle/dropouts but actually it’d be a lot on the spokes/tyre/rim as they deform. You’d be surprised how much can be put on a well built wheel, I croggied a friend whilst fully loaded on a 32 hole OP/Ultegra, total all up weight on the bike was 190kg, not even a murmour.
It certainly wouldn’t surprise me if the frame was useable but for most they simply wouldn’t trust it even if it was and rightly so.
Why the polic were not called is anyone’s guess as a criminal offence has being committed.
Rear hub could have easily
Rear hub could have easily knocked rear triangles out of true.
Is it relevant that the
Is it relevant that the Twitterer’s freind (the cyclist) is a doctor?
simonmb wrote:
Absolutely. It means that if DM picks up the story, it can lead on heroic member of our beloved Nhs surviving terror attacks by (insert derogatory label based on bus driver’s origins here). Or bloody cyclist holding up traffic gets just desserts. Either works at Fail Towers.
Looks like the wheel’s been
Looks like the wheel’s been twisted enough for it to be touching the seat stays and the rear mech looks like it’s touching the ground.
I’d want a new frame, rear wheel, rear mech, chain, brake disk and reflector at the very least.
And a P45 for the driver!
LastBoyScout wrote:
It’ll buff out.
Exactly the same happened to
Exactly the same happened to me at London Bridge, with less damage. Bus driver just looked at me and shrugged. Amazing.
drosco wrote:
Did TFL or the bus company pay for the damages?