road.cc live blog: abominable bus driving and more

drosco wrote:

Exactly the same happened to me at London Bridge, with less damage. Bus driver just looked at me and shrugged. Amazing.

Did TFL or the bus company pay for the damages?

LastBoyScout wrote:

Looks like the wheel's been twisted enough for it to be touching the seat stays and the rear mech looks like it's touching the ground.

It'll buff out.

simonmb wrote:

Is it relevant that the Twitterer's freind (the cyclist) is a doctor? 

Absolutely. It means that if DM picks up the story, it can lead on heroic member of our beloved Nhs surviving terror attacks by (insert derogatory label based on bus driver's origins here). Or bloody cyclist holding up traffic gets just desserts. Either works at Fail Towers.

1961BikiE wrote:

Oh yes, no stresses will have been passed through to the rear triangle (at minimum) at all.

I was rear ended by a car which turned into a hit and run, the rear wheel, a 36 spoke Open pro/Dura Ace was completely pringled so the forces were pretty significant. Bike frame has being going strong with no alignment issues, or any other physical signs or out of place feelings in the 6 years since. Massive carbon seatstays IMO were the saving grace, that and the effect the tyre and wheel itself has at taking out some of the forces. People in the twatter thread were saying it would be on the axle/dropouts but actually it'd be a lot on the spokes/tyre/rim as they deform. You'd be surprised how much can be put on a well built wheel, I croggied a friend whilst fully loaded on a 32 hole OP/Ultegra, total all up weight on the bike was 190kg, not even a murmour.

It certainly wouldn't surprise me if the frame was useable but for most they simply wouldn't trust it even if it was and rightly so. 

Why the polic were not called is anyone's guess as a criminal offence has being committed.

RoubaixCube wrote:

That Fuji bike isnt 'totalled'. 

 

 totalled means completely written off. In the picture, the frame is completely fine as are the forks, the front wheel, BB, Cranks/crank set and shifters.

All she would need is a new rear wheel, cassette,  rear derailleur, new chain and the bikes ready to go again as soon as you've tubed and tyre'd up. 

 

I estimate the damage is going to cost at least £200-300 to repair but the bike is in no way a complete write off. It just needs nursing back to health. 

 

However... If TFL want to pay for a new bike then thats also very a very welcome outcome. 

 

Bloody hell! You've got good eyesight.

don simon wrote:

RoubaixCube wrote:

That Fuji bike isnt 'totalled'. 

 

 totalled means completely written off. In the picture, the frame is completely fine as are the forks, the front wheel, BB, Cranks/crank set and shifters.

All she would need is a new rear wheel, cassette,  rear derailleur, new chain and the bikes ready to go again as soon as you've tubed and tyre'd up. 

 

I estimate the damage is going to cost at least £200-300 to repair but the bike is in no way a complete write off. It just needs nursing back to health. 

 

However... If TFL want to pay for a new bike then thats also very a very welcome outcome. 

 

Bloody hell! You've got good eyesight.

Just zoom in, the frame doesnt look bent up or mangled at all.

1961BikiE wrote:

Oh yes, no stresses will have been passed through to the rear triangle (at minimum) at all.

Another thing to consider is the angle of the impact. The bus almost hit it dead on and not from an angle. The bike looks at an angle in the picture is because the bus pushed it there when it came to a stop. There wouldnt of been barely ANY stress to the frame or rear triangle as the pressure was on the back wheel and the backwheel obviously collapsed from it. The frame didnt hit the ground or get dragged under the busses wheels either so its not crushed. 

Bike is still fully salvagable and serviceable once its been repaired. Unless the bike has been in several other potentially serious accidents/collisions before that we dont know about. Im saying is the frame still looks pretty much good to go from the picture.

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You all dont need to agree, but this is just my own opinion based on my observation.

RoubaixCube wrote:

don simon wrote:

RoubaixCube wrote:

That Fuji bike isnt 'totalled'. 

 

 totalled means completely written off. In the picture, the frame is completely fine as are the forks, the front wheel, BB, Cranks/crank set and shifters.

All she would need is a new rear wheel, cassette,  rear derailleur, new chain and the bikes ready to go again as soon as you've tubed and tyre'd up. 

 

I estimate the damage is going to cost at least £200-300 to repair but the bike is in no way a complete write off. It just needs nursing back to health. 

 

However... If TFL want to pay for a new bike then thats also very a very welcome outcome. 

 

Bloody hell! You've got good eyesight.

 

Just zoom in, the frame doesnt look bent up or mangled at all.

 

1961BikiE wrote:

Oh yes, no stresses will have been passed through to the rear triangle (at minimum) at all.

Another thing to consider is the angle of the impact. The bus almost hit it dead on and not from an angle. The bike looks at an angle in the picture is because the bus pushed it there when it came to a stop. There wouldnt of been barely ANY stress to the frame or rear triangle as the pressure was on the back wheel and the backwheel obviously collapsed from it. The frame didnt hit the ground or get dragged under the busses wheels either so its not crushed. 

 

Bike is still fully salvagable and serviceable once its been repaired. Unless the bike has been in several other potentially serious accidents/collisions before that we dont know about. Im saying is the frame still looks pretty much good to go from the picture.

 

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You all dont need to agree, but this is just my own opinion based on my observation.

The main issue in all your observations is that you aren't liable when it all goes wrong. Presume a shop (which will have to fill out a warranty form for TFL's insurance) says the frame is fine and then something does go wrong, the shop is fully liable.

Also, given most shops don't have a scanner to confirm the frames integrity it is a write off

RoubaixCube wrote:

don simon wrote:

RoubaixCube wrote:

That Fuji bike isnt 'totalled'. 

 

 totalled means completely written off. In the picture, the frame is completely fine as are the forks, the front wheel, BB, Cranks/crank set and shifters.

All she would need is a new rear wheel, cassette,  rear derailleur, new chain and the bikes ready to go again as soon as you've tubed and tyre'd up. 

 

I estimate the damage is going to cost at least £200-300 to repair but the bike is in no way a complete write off. It just needs nursing back to health. 

 

However... If TFL want to pay for a new bike then thats also very a very welcome outcome. 

 

Bloody hell! You've got good eyesight.

 

Just zoom in, the frame doesnt look bent up or mangled at all.

And yet you seemed so sure in your first post. I'm just glad that you're not a bike mechanic.

don simon wrote:

RoubaixCube wrote:

don simon wrote:

RoubaixCube wrote:

That Fuji bike isnt 'totalled'. 

 

 totalled means completely written off. In the picture, the frame is completely fine as are the forks, the front wheel, BB, Cranks/crank set and shifters.

All she would need is a new rear wheel, cassette,  rear derailleur, new chain and the bikes ready to go again as soon as you've tubed and tyre'd up. 

 

I estimate the damage is going to cost at least £200-300 to repair but the bike is in no way a complete write off. It just needs nursing back to health. 

 

However... If TFL want to pay for a new bike then thats also very a very welcome outcome. 

 

Bloody hell! You've got good eyesight.

 

Just zoom in, the frame doesnt look bent up or mangled at all.

And yet you seemed so sure in your first post. I'm just glad that you're not a bike mechanic.

 

I still am pretty sure actually. I think the bike is OK apart from the mangled wheel 

RoubaixCube wrote:

he frame is completely fine

My arse.

RoubaixCube wrote:

All she would need is a new rear wheel, cassette,  rear derailleur, new chain and the bikes ready to go again as soon as you've tubed and tyre'd up. 

I would say that the cassette, rear derailleur & chain will have a better chance of being ok than the frame.

Biggest surprise for me is that the seat looks ok, if that had been my bike I think I'd have made a mess of it...

RoubaixCube wrote:

That Fuji bike isnt 'totalled'. 

 

 totalled means completely written off. In the picture, the frame is completely fine as are the forks, the front wheel, BB, Cranks/crank set and shifters.

All she would need is a new rear wheel, cassette,  rear derailleur, new chain and the bikes ready to go again as soon as you've tubed and tyre'd up. 

 

I estimate the damage is going to cost at least £200-300 to repair but the bike is in no way a complete write off. It just needs nursing back to health. 

 

However... If TFL want to pay for a new bike then thats also very a very welcome outcome. 

 

If the cost of repair is greater than the value of the item then it's a write off.
*I don't know the value of this bike though

brooksby wrote:

I'd love to know what (if anything!) was going through that bus driver's mind as they approached a red light with a bike stopped in front of them... Glad the rider wasn't injured 

I would imagine it was complete surprise - to find one of these damned cyclists not jumping a red light - after all don't they all jump red lights all of the time!