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road.cc live blog: Monday morning catch-up. Clarkson claptrap, clueless councillors and more

Some stories you may have missed over the weekend
  • by Simon_MacMichael
Mon, Nov 20, 2017 08:29
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9 thoughts on “road.cc live blog: Monday morning catch-up. Clarkson claptrap, clueless councillors and more”

  1. CygnusX1
    November 20, 2017 at 9:59 am
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    Currently sitting in a car
    Currently sitting in a car dealership waiting area, Daily Fail and (behind) the Times have just been dropped onto the table. Against my better judgment, picked up the DF,,, inside is a piece with Clarkson saying driverless car nearly killed him. Which means in a parallel universe…

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    • davel
      November 20, 2017 at 10:18 am
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      CygnusX1 wrote:

      Currently sitting in a car dealership waiting area, Daily Fail and (behind) the Times have just been dropped onto the table. Against my better judgment, picked up the DF,,, inside is a piece with Clarkson saying driverless car nearly killed him. Which means in a parallel universe…

      — CygnusX1

      And that, in a nutshell, is the problem with driverless cars: no judgement.

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      • hawkinspeter
        November 20, 2017 at 12:54 pm
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        davel wrote:

        Currently sitting in a car dealership waiting area, Daily Fail and (behind) the Times have just been dropped onto the table. Against my better judgment, picked up the DF,,, inside is a piece with Clarkson saying driverless car nearly killed him. Which means in a parallel universe…

        — davel

        And that, in a nutshell, is the problem with driverless cars: no judgement.— CygnusX1

        I don’t understand. Is it a problem that it only “nearly killed him” and it should have definitely killed him?

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        • davel
          November 20, 2017 at 1:14 pm
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          hawkinspeter wrote:

          Currently sitting in a car dealership waiting area, Daily Fail and (behind) the Times have just been dropped onto the table. Against my better judgment, picked up the DF,,, inside is a piece with Clarkson saying driverless car nearly killed him. Which means in a parallel universe…

          — hawkinspeter

          And that, in a nutshell, is the problem with driverless cars: no judgement.

          — davel

          I don’t understand. Is it a problem that it only “nearly killed him” and it should have definitely killed him?

          — CygnusX1

          That would be one measure of intelligence progression.

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  2. PRSboy
    November 20, 2017 at 10:41 am
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    There is truth in what

    There is truth in what Clarkson says… paraphrasing; shared cycle/bus lanes are dangerous, and given the choice he’d ban buses due to NOx and particulate emmissions.  Hard to argue with that…

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    • alansmurphy
      November 20, 2017 at 1:03 pm
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      PRSboy wrote:

      There is truth in what Clarkson says… paraphrasing; shared cycle/bus lanes are dangerous, and given the choice he’d ban buses due to NOx and particulate emmissions.  Hard to argue with that…

      — PRSboy

       

      “shared cycle/bus lanes are dangerous” – no they’re not

       

      “he’d ban buses due to NOx and particulate emmissions” – do busses pollute more per passenger per mile than cars then? If the car journeys were replaced by bus journeys the efficiency would be greater as would be the ability to increase investment in better busses… 

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  3. Canyon48
    November 20, 2017 at 12:56 pm
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    “Clarkson’s been telling his

    “Clarkson’s been telling his fans once again that only poor people cycle” Not exactly.

    What he said isn’t exactly wrong either. Busses are ridiculously overpriced (£4 for a return ticket that takes twice as long as my car to get from one side of Bristol to the other – no thanks, I’ll drive).

    I fully support removing diesel buses and replacing them with electric ones. Or, as should have been done in Bristol rather than Metrobus, create an electric tram network – go look at Geneva!

    Cycling also provides free travel for millions worldwide who can’t afford to run a car.

    My Canyon Ultimate is way more than twice the cost of my car though – and my Whyte Wessex is nearly twice the price, so, you know.

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  4. Griff500
    November 20, 2017 at 4:56 pm
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    Quote” Clarkson’s been

    Quote” Clarkson’s been telling his fans once again that only poor people cycle”

    No he didn’t. He said if you can’t afford a car, buy a bicycle.  Not the same thing at all.

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  5. burtthebike
    November 20, 2017 at 5:51 pm
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    The article says that

    The article says that Clarkson is 57, which seems rather young to be having dementia to this extent.

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Rendel Harris 14 minutes ago

@Nigel Garage I saw on the rolling ticker that you had commented on this story and I thought surely even he can't be such an utter petty spiteful little dick as to object to disabled people being given assistance to purchase mobility aids. Sorry to say that I was wrong. An adaptive bike, for these narrow tax purposes, is anything that the government chooses to put on the approved list. In any case, many/most tandems purchased for use by visually impaired people will have some form of adaptation, making them literally adaptive bikes as well as for the purpose of the list. You really need to take a good look at your life. Not only because you have been banned from this site dozens of times and yet you still insist on coming back and trolling it, which is desperately sad in itself, but because you are so mean minded, selfish and greedy that you object to disabled people being given a small exemption when buying mobility equipment (equipment, incidentally, which will help them to keep fit and quite probably reduce the burden on the NHS, and therefore the taxpayer, by far more than the value of the exemption), apparently on the grounds that you wouldn't get the same exemption. You're not a good person.

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32" is yet another marketing hype that we don't need... what next??? Bigger wheels are better.... so let's all go back to riding "Ordinaries"🤣

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Sniffer 1 hour ago

I do enjoy our resident trolls double speak. The last sentence suggests he has paid tax to Lizzi. I definitely approve of the concept of trolls paying extra tax. I am off to see a production of 1984 at the theatre tomorrow night. I think our Nigel on this forum is probably a room 101 possibility.

in: Ditch tandem tax to end discrimination against blind cyclists, Paralympic champion urges government
sclarke3@talktalk.net 1 hour ago

@Smartstu Totally agree with you.. We should be promoting "normal" bikes for "normal" people at "affordable" price points... Encourage people to cycle to work instead of using the car, you don't need Lycra, or "aero" equipment, don't need electric assistance if you're fit, don't need stupid bike packing bags, don't need to be chasing Strava! Just need more people on bikes😎😎

in: Leon Kaiser wins Sea Otter UCI Gravel race on unreleased 32-inch wheels and bike
Rendel Harris 1 hour ago

@Velo-drone Well, I think it's best for them to be honest and look at all sides of cycling, not just promote positives and pretend there aren't some problems. Note that this isn't a cycling organisation choosing to promote this message, it was just a paper presented at Cycling Scotland's annual conference, they aren't running a "Cyclists wear masks" campaign. As the late great Richard Ballantine said in his Bicycle Book (from memory from many years ago so forgive any errors), I want you to cycle and I think the benefits far outweigh the dangers. I know some good places for scuba-diving that have sharks as well, I would encourage you to try them out but I would be irresponsible if I didn't warn you about the sharks.

in: “Nobody wants to wear a mask but they can help”: Scientist tells cyclists they should cover nose and face when riding in high-polluting heavy traffic
Rendel Harris 1 hour ago

@Velo-drone Well, I think it's best for them to be honest and look at all sides of cycling, not just promote positives and pretend there aren't some problems. Note that this isn't a cycling organisation choosing to promote this message, it was just a paper presented at Cycling Scotland's annual conference, they aren't running a "Cyclists wear masks" campaign. As the late great Richard Ballantine said in his Bicycle Book (from memory from many years ago so forgive any errors), I want you to cycle and I think the benefits far outweigh the dangers. I know some good places for scuba-diving that have sharks as well, I would encourage you to try them out but I would be irresponsible if I didn't warn you about the sharks.

in: “Nobody wants to wear a mask but they can help”: Scientist tells cyclists they should cover nose and face when riding in high-polluting heavy traffic
kinderje 1 hour ago

If mentioning excellent names surely U23 ITT silver medallist Nienke Vinke should be put forward?

in: “Dear slower cyclists… don’t pass me”: Cyclist complains of riders shuffling ahead at traffic lights “in tiny bike lanes where I can’t overtake” + more on the live blog
sclarke3@talktalk.net 1 hour ago

Never trust a DM reader... How can this guy ever get his job back as a driving instructor?? But I expect that after his ban ends he will be back instructing new drivers how to drive safely! What a complete Tosser and a two year ban is no way long enough.

in: “Many cyclists are out to prove a point and deliberately get in the way”: Daily Mail readers rush to defend unrepentant driving instructor who struck grandmother from behind at 55mph before shouting “f***ing a***holes”
jackcycles 1 hour ago

Yet another useless British company that's discovered if you go woke, you go broke. Fat Mike should buy them when they enter administration, he knows how to turn a profit and how to call a spade a spade. Would be an excellent brand for the sports direct stable alongside his other cycling brands so makes sense, although Rapha IMO are trying to fill a niche which is already overpopulated with other brands.

in: Rapha set for “significant organisational changes to reduce cost and drive efficiency” as Fran Millar steps down as CEO of British brand

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