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Newcastle motorcyclists claim 'Orca' cycle lane separators could prove lethal

Similar products known as Armadillos have previously come in for criticism from cyclists

The North East Motorcycle Action Group (MAG) says that lane dividers installed along Great North Road in Gosforth could result in someone being killed. Newcastle City Council has installed the ‘Orcas’ to separate a cycle lane from the road.

On its website, the group describes the Orcas as “narrow humped back obstructions on the flat road surface that have not been passed for use by the Department of Transport.” The group suggests that any motorcyclist or scooter rider who hits one “will at best be thrown to the ground and at worst killed by forcing them into collision with another motor vehicle.”

Chronicle Live reports that MAG has called for a meeting with councillors to discuss the issue.

Katalina Ferguson, a spokeswoman for the group, said: “It’s mad. In order to try and protect cyclists from cars they have sacrificed the safety of motorcyclists and scooterists by reducing their available road space and then throwing obstacles in their way. In Manchester, where these were trialled, even the cyclists are against them.”

Mad Cycle Lanes of Manchester has documented many of the places in which similar lane dividers, known as 'Armadillos', have been employed in the city, and as you might have gathered from the blog’s title, it hasn’t been entirely complimentary. Criticisms include that they aren’t large enough to deter drivers while still being of sufficient size to be a hazard for cyclists; that they can be hard to see; and that they aren’t particularly durable.

A Newcastle City Council spokeswoman described the Orca separators as ‘light segregation’ and admitted that they are not approved by the Department for Transport (DfT).

“No segregation would mean that only the white line was provided, and this is only sufficient on quieter or lightly trafficked streets. On busier roads, this provides no physical protection to cyclists, and would not encourage increased usage of safer cycling infrastructure as is the aim of the safety fund that paid for these changes.

“While these orcas do not require DfT approval, there is a legal requirement for the cycle lane separator to be installed behind a continuous white line at the edge of the carriageway, which clearly indicates a mandatory cycle lane.

“The DfT’s view is that such items are considered as street furniture, in a similar way to bollards or guardrail, which could also be placed behind the edge of the carriageway without any approval required.”

The spokeswoman said that a risk assessment had been carried out for various different measures and that no evidence had been found to suggest that this form of lane divider should not be considered on the grounds of potential health and safety concerns.

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JonD | 8 years ago
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If you can't manage to keep your motorbike within the available road space it's time to sell the bloody thing - as with a bicycle, all the rubbish is in the road margins, and white lines -centre or bike lane -are best avoided, and especially in the wet 'cos they're slippery.

MAG in self-justification exercise perhaps..

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wycombewheeler | 8 years ago
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And what is the effect of a motorcycle hitting a kerb? Perhaps we should remove the kerb between road and pavement if motorcyclists have so much trouble staying in the correct lane.

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fukawitribe replied to wycombewheeler | 8 years ago
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wycombewheeler wrote:

And what is the effect of a motorcycle hitting a kerb?

I'd much prefer to scuff along a decent kerb than the armadillos i've seen in Bristol I think (not tried it) - get the impression it's easier to get something hooked or knocked with them than a usually relatively smooth surface at a reasonably even height over small distances.

The feedback about this style of 'light segregation' has not be good from some cyclists groups and individuals - not sure why there's so much vitriol about motorcyclists not being able to control themselves here when MAG mention some of the same faults.

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seven | 8 years ago
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Oops I have just re-read the quote, which seems to indicate that these are being installed along mandatory cycle lanes.

Still a crap idea. Get rid and install a proper kerb.

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oldstrath | 8 years ago
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I suspect they'd be even more wound up if proper, adequately large, separstors were used to keep motons out of the cycle lane.

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oozaveared replied to oldstrath | 8 years ago
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oldstrath wrote:

I suspect they'd be even more wound up if proper, adequately large, separstors were used to keep motons out of the cycle lane.

I agree but this middle way nonsense helps no one. Someone is always going to be pissed off so just decide who that is going to be. This approach is just designed to piss everyone off. Cyclists get no protection. Bad motorists don't get stopped and bikers can get offed pretty easily.

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seven | 8 years ago
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What an idiot idea. It's as if the potholes, poor/failed roadwork reinstatements, gravel, broken glass and parked vehicles in cycle lanes weren't bad enough on their own.

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balmybaldwin | 8 years ago
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Motrocylists the clue here is the absence of the term "motor" in "cycle lane"

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seven replied to balmybaldwin | 8 years ago
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balmybaldwin wrote:

Motrocylists the clue here is the absence of the term "motor" in "cycle lane"

Cycle lanes are almost always advisory, not mandatory. Whether you like it or not, motorcyclists and motorists are allowed to encroach on them, providing they are not "causing an obstruction" (a limitation so vague as to only add to the pointlessness of most cycle lanes in the first place). And even if they weren't (allowed in the cycle lanes) motorcyclists could easily be put in a position whereby they need to take evasive action and hit one of these things. If I was a motorcyclist, damn right I'd be up in arms about them.

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