Lord Scott of Foscote has called for a ban on cyclists using ‘earplugs’, arguing ‘a cyclist’s main protection should be his or her own eyes and ears,’ reports the Evening Telegraph. In response, transport minister Baroness Kramer was keen to emphasise that there are a wide variety of actions which can be taken to improve the safety of cyclists.
Independent crossbencher Lord Scott, who regularly cycles to Westminster himself, told peers at question time how he was ‘appalled’ at the number of cyclists he saw using ‘earplugs’.
“Does the Minister agree that a cyclist’s main protection should be his or her own eyes and ears? The eyes are there to warn against impending danger from the front and the ears ought to assist in identifying impending danger from behind."
He then argued that regulations should dictate that cyclists cannot use earphones.
“If they listen to music, they cannot possibly hear any danger approaching from behind. There are regulations to ensure the use of lights on bicycles in dark or dingy weather. Should there not also be a regulation to prevent the highly dangerous practice to which I have referred?”
Transport minister Baroness Kramer said it was important for everyone to do all they could to improve cycle safety and pointed to segregated cycle paths and HGV design as being key areas. However, when later pressed for an answer to the headphones question specifically by Lord Butler of Brockwell, she responded:
“My Lords, enforceability is always absolutely crucial. I hesitate to tell cyclists exactly what they should do when there is so much scope for us to make improvements in other areas, and I suggest that we pursue those.”
In 2013, London Mayor Boris Johnson said that he would not be against a headphone ban for cyclists while 90 per cent of respondents to a BBC survey the following year were in favour. At the time, Mike Cavenett of the London Cycling Campaign responded to Johnson by saying: "I'd like to know what kind of evidence base the mayor is using. I'm not aware of a single fatality where headphones were implicated."
One of the issues there is that even where the use of earphones is mentioned in a coroner’s report, it is rare that it can be proven to have been a contributory factor. The inquest into the death of 15-year-old Callum Wilkinson in November is one recent example with Assistant Deputy Coroner of Nottinghamshire, Maria Mulrennan, saying:
“I note that Callum usually cycled whilst listening to music. And it would appear from the evidence that he was doing so at the time of the collision. Whether he was distracted or unaware of the approach of Miss Howson’s vehicle is unclear.”
Research published in 2011 in the journal Transportation Research by academics from the University of Groningen found that "listening to music resulted in reduced visual and auditory perception and reduced speed" in cyclists.
While ‘very large’ negative effects were found when in-earbuds were used, no negative effects were found when listening to music using only one earbud. There is also said to be no clear evidence that bans on wearing headphones in Quebec or Florida has reduced the number of cyclists killed in those areas.

57 thoughts on “Lord calls for ban on cyclists using earphones”
Anyone know if there is any
Anyone know if there is any evidence with regards to motor vehicle drivers listening to music? I frequently see many motorists failing to pull over for emergency vehicles with their blues and twos going and wonder if loud music is a contributory factor in this? Sometimes i hear loud music from those vehicles.
Ric_Stern_RST wrote:Anyone
Surely anything can possibly distract you from the act of driving. Especially loud music. An especially loud child in the back seat.
Ban all in-car entertainment systems, that’s what I say! No heads-up satnav displays, no dvd players, no radio or cd players.
(Mind you, my car and my wife’s car are both early 1970s and don’t have any of that anyway…).
Absolutely agree, ban
Absolutely agree, ban cyclists wearing earphones and all in car entertainment. And while we’re at it compulsory helmets for car drivers and passengers would save more lives than the same for cyclists.
Anyone know if there is any
Anyone know if there is any evidence with regards to motor vehicle drivers listening to music? I frequently see many motorists failing to pull over for emergency vehicles with their blues and twos going and wonder if loud music is a contributory factor in this? Sometimes i hear loud music from those vehicles.
Anyone know if there is any
Anyone know if there is any evidence with regards to motor vehicle drivers listening to music? I frequently see many motorists failing to pull over for emergency vehicles with their blues and twos going and wonder if loud music is a contributory factor in this? Sometimes i hear loud music from those vehicles.
Lawmaking of the UKIP “common
Lawmaking of the UKIP “common sense” variety, i.e. what people agree to down the pub after five pints.
Blame the victim again.
the
Blame the victim again.
Err, how exactly? When I am riding in traffic every vehicle overtaking me sounds the same. How do I tell the dangerous ones? And then what do I do? Hop on the pavement as a precaution?
So loud stereo systems in cars are not a problem? What about deaf or hard-of-hearing riders? Ban them from cycling?
The impending danger from
The impending danger from behind is not the fault of the cyclist wearing headphones, it’s the fault of the dangerous driver behind. Back to school for the honourable member.
I can’t hear what’s behind me
I can’t hear what’s behind me when it’s windy. Are we to ban cycling in high breezes?
Hearing is only once sense, and it’s much, much less important than sight. One only has to see pedestrians stepping off pavements in front of cyclists because they can’t hear a car to know you can’t rely on it.
I can tell what’s behind me on the road because I’m regularly looking back to check. I’d rather people did this while using headphones, than didn’t without.
Some sections of my commute
Some sections of my commute are so busy & noisy I need ear defenders!
The general din means I couldn’t hear earphones anyway. I can barely hear anyone talking beside me.
But hey it’s “common sense” right?
traffic isn’t always behind
traffic isn’t always behind you and it’s not always traffic you need to be aware of when on your bike…
Maybe he should try cycling
Maybe he should try cycling with earbuds (not sound-isolating ones) and experience just how difficult it is to exclude traffic sounds?
Also, as others have said, how would you hear which vehicle is carelessly driven or will give you a close pass? I can’t usually see that when I have a clear view, much less hear…
Politician spouting unfounded b*ll*cks shocker…
There aren’t any “regulations
There aren’t any “regulations to ensure the use of lights on bicycles in dark or dingy weather” as Lord Scott claims. The law requires use of lights between the time of sunset and sunrise. It has nothing to do with the weather.
bdsl wrote:There aren’t any
If I remember correctly, not entirely true. Lights during the hours of darkness which is not the same as between sunset and sunrise. Pedantic I know, but just for clarity of how the law works.
mrmo wrote:bdsl wrote:There
Acording to the CTC, bike lights are now required during sunset-sunrise, aka ‘lighting up time’. It used to be the ‘hours of darkness’, which is half an hour shorter at each end.
http://www.ctc.org.uk/cyclists-library/regulations/lighting-regulations
The main sense for
The main sense for identifying danger from behind is the eyes on the head of the road user behind, supplemented by shoulder checks.
So my deaf daughter is never
So my deaf daughter is never going to be allowed to cycle on the roads as she cant use her hearing to help identify impending danger from behind?
Nice.
Here’s a thought, lets focus on those people causing the impending danger from behind rather than blame the cyclists for being ran over eh?
“There are regulations to
“There are regulations to ensure the use of lights on bicycles in dark or dingy weather.”
No regulation about bikes and lights for “dingy” weather.
If you allow a politician enought time they will display their ignorance, on any subject. The above is enought to let me know that this lord doesn’t know enough about the problem to be listened to, pass me my “earplugs”, please
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Car headlights (not
Car headlights (not sidelights) are supposed to be on in rain aren’t they? Perhaps that is what Lord Scott was thinking of when he referred to bikes in dingy weather.
I don’t wear earphones when cycling, but that is my choice. I think it is safer not to, especially when on busy roads. I do sometimes play music through my phone’s “loud” speaker (ahem) but it is so quiet I can’t hear it when a car approaches or go downhill. It makes hill repeats a lot more bearable.
As others have said, if they are going to ban cyclists from headphones, they need to ban cars from using loud stereos, etc etc. There’s about as much chance of that being enforced as stopping mobile phone use behind the wheel…
And there are a lot more ways that the safety of cyclists can be improved. Like people learning to drive with tolerance and awareness of other road users, like overtaking a bike with at least a 2m clearance. Is it really too much to ask?
“I cycle entirely safely with
“I cycle entirely safely with earbuds in and I can totally do my homework while watching the telly mum”
“I cycle entirely safely with
“I cycle entirely safely with earbuds in and I can totally do my homework while watching the telly mum”
The only good reason to need
The only good reason to need to hear what’s coming is to brace for impact 😉
Quote:I don’t wear earphones
I find it easy to hear when cars are approaching behind me and i like that i can be aware that they are coming. I find listening to the cars coming you can judge something about them, such as speed, impatience (revving), or intention not to give you much room (ie. when another car is approaching the other way and you dont think there is enough space but hear the car behind is still coming!). All this gives ME notice to look behind at the right time to further judge the situation and then act, if required.
Obviously though some cant, not everyone has good hearing or able to differentiate sounds and very busy city riding rules hearing anything impossible. Not to mention that if you do have headphones in it is still entirely possible to cycle safely, you still have eyes and a neck afterall.
To sum up, well meaning but foolish. Oh, he is a Lord? ok so we knew that anyway then…
Deaf people are allowed to
Deaf people are allowed to drive cars, and I presume ride bicycles too. Is this in question now? Do all licences to deaf people have to be revoked? Are deaf people to be banned from buying bicycles?
Earphones actually make me
Earphones actually make me safer, because I can hear less, I turn and actually look over my shoulder far more.
What about all the drivers
What about all the drivers with headphones? Does the Lord plan on doing anything about them?
pruaga wrote:What about all
Given the opportunity I would ban that tomorrow, it was against the rules until the mobile phone ban came in. Hands free kits at the time used one speaker, no one saw the day that phones would come with radio, MP3 or any of the other things that a mobile can do now.
Of course this could also be looked at as an example of what happens when a law is passed too hastily.
Presumably this gentleman is
Presumably this gentleman is basing his views on cyclists in London. As a cyclist in London I think it is fair to say that 95% of my commutes are spent with a car beside/directly in-front/directly behind me. Being able to hear them would make absolutely no difference. Having said that I do wear cotton wool in my ears to protect my ears because the evidence shows that exposure to noise in traffic can cause long term damage.
The one day I really look forward to is when we have widespread use of electric cars, simply because it should make a massive dent in the noise pollution created by cars. Given the fact that day is around the corner, would a cyclist be able to hear a car coming anyway?
squired wrote:Presumably this
Well they would have to ban electric cars wouldn’t they? Or provide them with a soundtrack of car noise to play through a loud speaker so we can hear them before they run us over. :)) :)) :))
Hensteeth wrote:… Or
That has been discussed, and apparently not while down at the pub either… #o
sorry , but this finding is
sorry , but this finding is the biggest load of wnak i’ve read in a long time ……….
I’ve been cycling for a number of years and i always wear my headphones – i’ve never found myself in danger nor have i ever caused an accident by listening to the beastie boys…..
If we go down this route then they need to also stop making cars with built in sound sound systems and ‘hands free’ mobile phone technology
utter utter tosh
sjb2332 wrote:i’ve never
Excellent taste sir.
Riding with noise isolating
Riding with noise isolating headphone/earphones is positively suicidal and anyone who believes otherwise is massively deluded. “I wear them everyday and I’m not dead” hardly constitutes a solid argument.
Hearing plays a massive part in spatial awareness. Listening out for engines/horns/brakes/reversing warning sirens etc gives you a sense of what’s around you way before your eyes come into play. When you’re cycling down winding single-lane country roads, sometimes your hearing is the only thing that lets you know that there’s a speeding car coming round the next blind bend.
That being said, I would strongly oppose any kind of ban. Any time you try to legislate, be it regarding helmets or lights or fluorescent clothing, you discourage people from taking up this sport of ours and getting more people cycling is the only thing that’s going to actually make a difference.
The negative externalities of wearing headphones or not wearing a helmet are tiny in comparison to the positives that we gain from getting the country on their bikes.
Riding with noise isolating
Riding with noise isolating headphone/earphones is positively suicidal and anyone who believes otherwise is massively deluded. “I wear them everyday and I’m not dead” hardly constitutes a solid argument.
Hearing plays a massive part in spatial awareness. Listening out for engines/horns/brakes/reversing warning sirens etc gives you a sense of what’s around you way before your eyes come into play. When you’re cycling down winding single-lane country roads, sometimes your hearing is the only thing that lets you know that there’s a speeding car coming round the next blind bend.
That being said, I would strongly oppose any kind of ban. Any time you try to legislate, be it regarding helmets or lights or fluorescent clothing, you discourage people from taking up this sport of ours and getting more people cycling is the only thing that’s going to actually make a difference.
The negative externalities of wearing headphones or not wearing a helmet are tiny in comparison to the positives that we gain from getting the country on their bikes.
In terms of traffic coming
In terms of traffic coming from behind if you’re proceeding normally down a road then the only thing that your hearing tells you to do is “brace for impact.”
Or, jump onto the pavement,
Or, jump onto the pavement, stick 2 fingers up, swerve,…. if you’re aware, at least you may have choices…
“If they listen to music,
“If they listen to music, they cannot possibly hear any danger approaching from behind. There are regulations to ensure the use of lights on bicycles in dark or dingy weather. Should there not also be a regulation to prevent the highly dangerous practice to which I have referred?”
Interesting words. If I’d been a Lord, and not asleep, then I’d take the danger to which he referred and agreed that legislation was needed. That danger is the thing coming from behind, right?
Maybe my hearing doesn’t work
Maybe my hearing doesn’t work as well as this lords, but I can’t tell the difference between the sound of an HGV about to pass 3 inches from my elbow and one that’s going to drive over the top of me.
But I’d settle for a band on headphone, if in return we get presumed liability for drivers.
Sound like common sense to
Sound like common sense to me. We’re all responsible for both our own and others’ safety. Wear a helmet and don’t wear headphones. And stop motorists from listening to loud music too. Britain is best off safe and quiet.
michophull wrote:Sound like
Quite right sir. Where would we be if everybody just swanned about the place listening to music and enjoying themselves?
So I guess the good lord
So I guess the good lord wishes to ban car stereos, mobile phones hands free, kids screaming in cars …
Oh he cycles (cue I am not racist I have a black friend …)
Or ban motorcycle helmets as
Or ban motorcycle helmets as they enclose the ear too.
Ignoring the fact that moped and motorcycle training takes place with ear enclosing helmets, earpieces and microphones.
Every bicycle PC / PCSO has an earpiece.
I appear to agree with the transport minister’s reply… “I hesitate to tell cyclists exactly what they should do when there is so much scope for us to make improvements in other areas, and I suggest that we pursue those.”
Bez has already covered all
Bez has already covered all this in his blog “Beyond the Kerb”
As usual makes great reading and great sense. =D>
So, will Lard Scott of
So, will Lard Scott of Foscote also argue that regulations should dictate that deaf people be banned from cycling?
Tried it once…. didn’t like
Tried it once…. didn’t like the sense of isolation. I felt vulnerable to cars coming up behind. So personally I wouldn’t do it.
intuitively it must have some part to play in road safety, but it’s hard to prove as a root cause of a particular incident I suppose.
As one commentator said, the eyes in the head of the driver approaching from behind have a much bigger part to play, including their state of mind and attitude towards other road users.
“Excuse me mate I think
“Excuse me mate I think there’s a big crack in your frame/ your rear light has gone out / you dropped your wallet back there/ can you help me me I’m lost?”
– “can’t hear you its my right, my right I tell you to listen to nickleback at full volume, stop harsh ing my buzz you crypto-fascist-pig-Nark, ooo Katie Perry is on now”
Almost like the HoL is out of
Almost like the HoL is out of touch – why is it when decisions about cycling are made they are based purely on anecdote and individual perceptions?
As for the headphones, I wouldn’t do it in the city but I do occasionally listen to an audiobook/music in a single earphone when putting in longer miles in the countryside.
Regardless, it’s a personal choice and if you’re looking for ways to make cycling safer then there are about a billion other things that should be done first.
Headphones on a bike is daft.
Headphones on a bike is daft. Plain stupid. You need your eyes and ears.
I can’t understand why people can’t go for a walk, a ride, a bit of shopping, anything without a soundtrack.
It’s just another case of disengagement.
People who ride for hours out in the countryside with earphones, geez, what about the birds, trees and rivers man??
If hearing is necessary, I’ll
If hearing is necessary, I’ll have to go without a helmet – can’t hear a thing at any decent speed with one on…
Whilst I agree that if you’re
Whilst I agree that if you’re listening to Public Enemy at full bore on your cans you are unlikely to hear approaching traffic, I’m pretty sure I can’t hear approaching traffic in my car at all (ok maybe the old Ducati or Harley now and then), so this really does smack of sound-bite politics.
Personally I tend to listen to my radio 4 podcasts on a single earbud, but that’s so I can hear the adoring chants from my public as I ride to work 😉
Arse!
Is the Noble Lord also
Arse!
Is the Noble Lord also suggesting that car drivers should be banned from having radios, windows and roofs on their cars so that they might also benefit from the obvious benefits of being able to avoid the idiot about to plough into them from behind as if it were their fault for being there? No? Perhaps because that would just be a bit silly?
Don’t do it myself, but frankly even with noise isolating ear-buds in we hear more than the average radio 2 listener in a modern sound insulated vehicle.
Andy
Gladly give up the ear phones
Gladly give up the ear phones if other road users are not going to use their mobile phones and give up listen to their radios when driving.
It’s nice listening to music when you’re cycling but it really isn’t a good idea as you need all your senses to avoid accidents. That said on quiet roads it might be ok to listen to some tunes.
Although I would say it’s not so much that you can’t hear other cars etc but more the fact that you might be concentrating on the music more than the road. Then again 😕 it depends on the music and the person ….. some people might find it easier to concentrate on the road etc with a bit of music.
The idea that there would be a law made against headphones while riding sound a bit too much, I mean where does it end ? Laws against mobile phone users using their phone while they are walking ?
And I am not connected to this company but isn’t there a company called earbuds that make ear phones which let in outside noise ? Pretty sure that would be ok.
I can’t believe the sheer one
I can’t believe the sheer one sidedness of the responses so far. I’m going against the trend above and say that I agree entirely with banning headphones while cycling. To he honest though its not a big problem in the real world. More confined to the “I’ll do what I want”, stick it to the man, single speed riding, hipster type infested streets of our capital city. People up here are humble enough to take responsibility for their own safety.
Presumably the good lord will
Presumably the good lord will be banning pedestrians from wearing earphones as well? There are lots of them on shared use paths endangering the cyclists, but perhaps he’s only interested in saving cyclists from themselves.
Earphones are distracting for
Earphones are distracting for all road users, car drivers, cyclists and pedestrians. We all have to be aware of whats going on around.
I used to run and the best sense I had for my own safety at junctions etc was hearing.
In my opinion there’s no need for a specific law, it’s already there in the guise of ‘due care and attention’. I feel the same about the mobile phone law.
At work (desk job) I use a single headphone to enable me to be partially distracted from my surroundings, with two phones I’m totally distracted and no idea whats going on. ‘Nuff said.
I have been riding in rush
I have been riding in rush hour traffic for years, often with headphones. I am clearly aware of traffic noise around me. Perhaps some might have an arguement if your music is cranked up high.
I agree with the other reviewer that relates headphone use with car radios.
Often, when I hear complaints like this I question the experience behind the words.
Does his Lordship also
Does his Lordship also suggest that someone who is mostly deaf (like me) shouldn’t ride a bike at all ????