Road traffic laws too "lenient" say widows of cyclists killed on charity ride

The below linked article may highlight the problems and issues. I hope you don't mind Bez.

http://beyondthekerb.wordpress.com/2014/01/10/the-problem-with-good-people/

Nothing will change. Politicians or more correctly governments of what ever flavour don't give a fuck about cyclists, neither do the courts, judges or many plods. Hundreds, thousands more of us will be slaughtered or seriously injured for merely daring to ride our bikes on ever more dangerous UK roads. The country basically is fucked. The over riding message is riding a bicycle on UK roads is fucking dangerous, so don't, it's not worth getting killed for.

The motor vehicle industry whether actually producing vehicles or drivers using fuel for their cars, it is a major source of revenue for the government so they aren't going to do anything to upset the car lobby so no further action. Nothing will change.

Dave is a straw man who rides with a jag in tow so he isn't rear ended.

Lorry driver Palmer should be banned for life. Period. In fact better still put him on a bike and I'll try to over take him in a 44 tonne truck. I don't fancy his chances ……..

We absolutely need to clamp down hard.

Any driver suspected of dangerous driving needs to be banned from driving asap until(if) and verdict and they are cleared.

The vehicle needs to be seized and impounded until after the trial (it may be but I doubt it). For a transport company that would mean loss of a vehicle, but if they are allowing their drivers to act like that then they are equally culpable.

Any incident where someone driving as their job is charged with dangerous driving, MUST also see the employer charged as well.

Then we may see "professional" drivers have to tighten up.

Too many have died and suffered. Enough is enough

I think it's past time the government stopped talking, commissioning yet another report, and actually did something.

Death by dangerous driving MUST mean a perminent driving ban! Also serious driving crime should mean a "long" driving ban followed by retaking the driving test to get your licence back.

A driving licence should be a priverledge and not a right.

I bet solicitors representing motorists being charged with causing death by dangerous driving are just telling everybody to pled guilty regardless of the circumstances as all they'll get in a year suspendend sentence.

You give a sob story about needing your driving licence to drive some relative to the doctors once in a blue moon and they judge hands you back your licence to go about your murderous driving ways.

Whatever the outcome I hope what goes round, comes round for this guy.

They say you can't put a price on a life.

Well you obviously can- economic impact of properly enforcing, prosecuting and punishing traffic offences divided by however many people we are allowing to be killed .

Work that out, it's the price of your life.

I await the screams of anguish on the 1st when the driver is allowed to walk free with only a few points and a paltry fine.

Killed 2 cyclists in July but despite being under charge for those offences, was still allowed to drive in September when he committed another act of dangerous driving, putting more lives at risk?! Surely in these cases the accused drive should be temporarily banned from driving until the case has been heard?
I understand that a person is innocent until proven guilty and personal liberty is important, but where allowing this would put a significant number of other people at increased risk, the safety of the majority has to come first.

I think we need a "Tongue firmly in cheek" emoticon. But only because I'm feeling generous and prepared to give PPPLasers the benefit of the doubt.

You only have to look at the websites of "driver groups", one of which bills itself as a "road safety group" to see shameless opposition to mandatory speed limits and camera enforcement. Add in their opposition to punishing the outcome of bad driving - they want only the nature of the bad driving to be punished. Regular talk of the police "persecuting" drivers - as if! We must counter these odious people and fight for justice for all road victims.

Please take 30 seconds to sign this:
http://www.roadjustice.org.uk/police-petition

And consider getting more involved here:
http://www.roadjustice.org.uk/get-involved

I agree. Pleading guilty, or to be found guilty, on a charge of Death by Dangerous Driving(which lets face it is as close to a charge of Murder as you'll find) should carry a mandatory Life Time Driving ban.

I would like to see permanent driving bans. If you abuse animals, you can be permanently banned from keeping them. If you abuse children, you can be permanently banned from being near them.

But if you cause someone's death while driving, even when your driving is far below the standards expected, you can be back on the road in months, or a year or two.

That needs to change. If a person has a track record of driving poorly and kills someone, they should be permanently banned from driving. Forever.