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@SVXY The driving instructor was prosecuted for careless driving causing injury and got a suspended sentence and driving ban so clearly did not escape punishment. You could also be prosecuted if trying to overtake a group of cyclists or a bus while not clearly being able to see the road ahead, at least for careless driving, maybe even dangerous driving. So drivers must comply with the highway code but so should cyclists, the highway code makes clear cyclists can ride 2 abreast not 3 or 4 abreast. Cyclists riding 3 or 4 abreast could therefore also be prosecuted for at least careless cycling on the road

@belugabob perhaps... at least on this forum (and likely in many of the "opinion" pieces) there is a "ho ho bet this will wind the beggars up!" - or at best only an interest in "getting a chuckle". I don't think human nature changes much (eg. they like to put the boot in to others in NL also) but the topics which create a frisson because "we've all done / thought it" do. Hence eg. the image of dropping concrete blocks off motorway bridges wouldn't be "banter" in most places. But while "stringing up piano wire across a bike path" almost certainly also wouldn't be in NL apparently it is in the UK ...

@SVXY Curiouser and curiouser. It seems strange that it's simultaneously only a minor failing for a driving instructor to drive into a road user ahead of them (an instructor who at best was not looking where he was driving - I don't know whether he also deployed "the sun was in my eyes" admission in the court case) ... ... and yet you (rightly) also highlight "not being able to see what is ahead" as reason for not being able to overtake cyclists or buses? (If you're driving so close behind a bus or group of cyclists that you can't see anything ahead, you probably shouldn't overtake, and possibly shouldn't be driving at all). I'm wondering what "code" you are invoking? Could it be the same one regularly made up by impatient people not operating their vehicles in accordance with the conditions of their licence who "don’t have time to be stuck behind cyclists all day"? 🤔

@mark1a And they're mentioned in the review. But, as it points out, they're discontinued, so only available for the time being, if you hunt around (some places are already showing them as 'backorder', which means you probably won't actually get them). Plus the reviewer apparently doesn't think much of them, or other cheaper available alternatives, because they lack the convenience of these.

@Gd29 Shimano's own SM-PD22 adapters are available for around a tenner.

These might be justifiable for a pro bike shop that might use these daily, and claim back VAT and claim them as expenses, effectively taking another 20% off. But for a consumer £50 a pair has passed the justifiable threshold for a convenience accessory that is easily misplaced! At £20, maybe £25 they would be a no-brainer. £30-35 would be justifiable. IMO

@SVXY You're almost correct - it does say - specifically in Rule 53 However, this applies to horses. For clarification, horses are not bicycles.

@chrisonabike Add reflectives to high viz too then. You can't safely overtake a bus unless it has stopped, certainly not on a rural road and nor can you safely overtake 3 or more cyclists riding abreast. You would not be able to see what was ahead, hence it is forbidden in the highway code. People in cars on Sunday mornings might be taking their kids to their football game, going to church, seeing family for lunch etc, they also don't have time to be stuck behind cyclists all day

@ribena or we can keep on highlighting ridiculous attitudes until it finally becomes apparent to the perpetrators that it's unacceptable. Ignoring them makes them think that nobody disagrees with them.

I have a pair, they're an absolutely brilliant idea, simple to use and store in a jersey pocket. They're perfect for popping to the shop or pub from a campsite or cycling onto a ferry in normal-ish clothing and footwear. I'm not sure the review's right about indoor trainer use, I certainly found my feet just moved around too much. Mind you, that's not really what they're for. That very minor issue aside they remain this year's top purchase.