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A new catch-all Tea Shop thread for those miscellaneous new stories that don't quite fit with parking, crashing into buildings or trapped/prisoners in their homes. 

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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HoarseMann replied to wtjs | 1 year ago
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Pretty sure you don't need an MOT if you are just driving to and from a test centre. Maybe they are making use of this exemption 

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HoarseMann replied to David9694 | 1 year ago
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“Time and again you expect us to sit here and accept that our freedoms, our history, and our heritage are all to be sacrificed on the altar of woke extremism."

Ah yes, ancient Britain, where everyone lived on a satellite housing estate a good 10 miles from the nearest facilities and preferably further from their place of work.

Free to spend a good portion of their day battling the traffic, cocooned in perfect isolation, the occasional wave at a passing motorist their only interaction with the local community.

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David9694 replied to hawkinspeter | 1 year ago
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Although firmly filed under D for "drivers trying to get out of things as usual", the modicum of sympathy I have here is that it's a dumb system that suffers you to go on breaking the rules repeatedly and not letting you know the fact sooner. 

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ktache replied to Jogle | 1 year ago
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It's the scarring of the paint on the barriers that gets me...

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David9694 replied to Jogle | 1 year ago
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google maps / my sat nav sat nav told me to come this way 

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Awavey replied to Jogle | 1 year ago
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World bollard association gives a better idea of the speed from another angle. (Almost like it was staged...)

https://twitter.com/WorldBollard/status/1634871668077371392

High centre of gravity + speed, only going to end one way.

And its actually one of those vehicles they want to allow in cycle lanes isnt it ?

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ktache replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Why do these self-entitled motorists think they should be blocking a pavement.

Doesn't their "road tax" pay for them to block the road.

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brooksby replied to David9694 | 1 year ago
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David9694 wrote:

Campaigners to stage seafront 'park in' against road changes

The protest will see people park their cars as they used to along the seafront - and leave them there

This is what it comes down to - the “right” of drivers to park on the seafront with the Daily Mail and a flask of tea.

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/campaigners-stage-seaf...

I wonder whether the council will be able to ticket them for illegal parking...

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David9694 replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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Everyday thing in the New Forest, loose pigs. 

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David9694 replied to Mungecrundle | 1 year ago
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You can't get a fridge along there!! 

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chrisonabike replied to HoarseMann | 1 year ago
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Ah yes, the altar of woke extremism.

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wtjs replied to HoarseMann | 1 year ago
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Pretty sure you don't need an MOT if you are just driving to and from a test centre. Maybe they are making use of this exemption

Good point!, but I think PJ07 XHF would have to demonstrate a booking for an MOT on each day! Joking apart, this one does seem very odd, and I did consider whether they have some sort of exemption for their own vehicles just like Travellers Choice coaches of Carnforth has recently acquired. What they have done is set up their own testing station, which I gather is then staffed by public testing employees, rather than Travellers employees marking their own homework. I can't see how this could apply to a small garage. The perplexing feature is that this 'testing station at home' doesn't then issue an official MOT pass logged by DVSA. My attention was drawn to this feature by Lancashire Constabulary doing their own MOTs and by this bus's MOT expiring on 19.1.23. It seemed improbable that a school bus would take a risk like this, so I looked into it.

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OnYerBike replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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I'm not convinced "staged" is the right word as that would suggest the driver intended to crash. My impression is that it was more of a "hold my beer" moment - the driver was showing off for the cameras and overcooked it.

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chrisonabike replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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My apologies - that was the altar of motoring extremism.  Here are some of those degenerate woke types, stopping progress - in fact literally taking us back to the 1970s!

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David9694 replied to wtjs | 1 year ago
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This seems a lot of trouble to go to to keep an un-Mot'd coach on the road? If something happened to it full of kids, there would - rightly - be all hell to pay.  

I think there is a range of options to pursue this, if this is the vehicle they are using to service this route, starting with the school, LCC school transport. 

https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-regist...

https://bustimes.org/services/952-catterall-churchtown-kirklands-ceps

 

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Awavey replied to OnYerBike | 1 year ago
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I did say "almost like" it was staged, but theres more than one video of it out there showing multiple runs lifting its left side, and theres one that finishes with one of the camera filmers facetiming the driver in hospital afterwards.

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chrisonabike replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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Oh - no, sorry again - taking us back to the 1920s.

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wtjs replied to David9694 | 1 year ago
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No, that's a misunderstanding. This is a legal method for companies with lots of vehicles, and maybe it's only HGVs, PSVs..., to set up their own testing centre to arrange MOTs at their own convenience. Travellers previously had them done at an HGV testing centre nearby run by a company for its own convenience. It appears that this procedure does not result in a formal MOT that is logged at DVSA when it's your OWN testing centre, but there is a formal pass when it's another company's OWN testing centre. I can't see that this system could apply to a small MOT garage, and I don't know if they're allowed to test their own vehicles or they have to take them to another testing centre

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David9694 replied to wtjs | 1 year ago
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Hmm, well my recollection is that the Council depot was registered as an MoT test centre for the very purpose of testing its own vehicles (mark own homework, etc but maybe VOSA can police that) and you sometimes see articles about "hidden cheap MoTs" because they are obliged to offer a service to the public if they operate as a MoT centre.

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wtjs replied to David9694 | 1 year ago
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For those who don't know what this is about, it's PJ07 XHF which is an MOT testing centre van which has no MOT- expired 9.2.23. The discussion was whether they can have an exemption for their own vans, which I doubt. The fact that Lancashire police has done nothing about the report doesn't help as they never do anything about reports of traffic offences anyway, and have essentially legalised not only 'not bothering with an MOT', but 'not bothering with MOT after you've failed MOT for 4 major defects': DS13 ATX. So in Lancashire, offending drivers can expect to carry on without any problems

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ktache replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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I was surprised that the motorists were leaving their doors open...

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andystow replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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High centre of gravity + speed, only going to end one way. And its actually one of those vehicles they want to allow in cycle lanes isnt it ?

I don't understand why as an EV it wasn't designed with a very low centre of gravity. I guarantee my gasoline powered MINI would not have rolled. I've had it on the track, and even with sticky tyres it eventually just understeers.

Most cars are only capable of rolling over in a turn if they are "tripped" by a vertical kerb, or in some cases if an extreme manoeuvre like a J turn is performed, but this video just looks like a steady state turn as the left is well after the previous right.

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2012/02/rollover-101/index.htm

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Awavey replied to andystow | 1 year ago
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its 4 inches taller than a MINI, but 13 inches narrower, the MINI was designed with a low centre of gravity and gokart style handling, the Citroen Ami clearly not.

but heres the fifth gear team trying it too, if anyone thinks its a one off...it even features a race against a bicycle, I wont spoil the result  1

https://youtu.be/_gEjTTnu50E?t=210

Citroen said in response "it is not a car… and is only intended for use at low speeds in busy stop and start urban traffic.”

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andystow replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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Awavey wrote:

its 4 inches taller than a MINI, but 13 inches narrower, the MINI was designed with a low centre of gravity and gokart style handling, the Citroen Ami clearly not.

but heres the fifth gear team trying it too, if anyone thinks its a one off...it even features a race against a bicycle, I wont spoil the result  1

https://youtu.be/_gEjTTnu50E?t=210

Citroen said in response "it is not a car… and is only intended for use at low speeds in busy stop and start urban traffic.”

Wow!

"low speeds in busy stop and start urban traffic" sounds like an optimum use case for (checks notes) a bicycle!

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mattw replied to David9694 | 1 year ago
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Clarkson's Farm is great if you just remember it is a one man Punch and Judy show.

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wtjs replied to wtjs | 1 year ago
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In Lancashire, even the MOT testing garages(link is external) can't afford MOTs!

Saw it again this morning- still no MOT since 9th February

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chrisonabike replied to Jogle | 1 year ago
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Should have bought a Biro (Estrima Birò).  Or (if qualifying) a Canta.  Of course other microcars are available, centres of gravity may vary...

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Rendel Harris replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Quote:

"There needs to be a longer term solution to this. There is a car park being built, [but] hopefully there's going to be a solution in the short term that can rectify the vandalism taking place."

Chris the estate agent doesn't seem to have cottoned onto the best short-term solution which not only will stop the vandalism but also stop the parking tickets, stop parking on the pavement!

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David9694 replied to mattw | 1 year ago
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Punch being the operative word. 

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OnYerBike replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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That story also reads as though the majority of cars belonged to residents of Castle Cary, who had decided to drive to the station rather than walk for 15 minutes.

Can't say I blame them - must be hard to walk to the station with the pavement being blocked!

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