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  • December 3, 2015 at 5:43 am #863095
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    charliepalooza
    ColT wrote:
    Will someone please explain to me what ‘roll very nicely’ means?  See it all the time on wheel reviews.

    I’ve used dozens of wheels over the years.  I’m fairly sure they’ve all ‘rolled very nicely’, thanks largely (I guess) to the fact that they have all been round and fitted with round tyres and have been on properly mantained hubs, so what is the point of this description?

    I’m genuinely interested in how to define this term. How do you tell?  In a blind test, if it were possible, what would be the tell-tale signs of a nice/poor roller? Why would a wheel not ‘roll nicely’, assuming it has been built correctly? i.e. it is round/circular (whichever is the correct term)  

     

    I’m with you in  this.

    It’s a bit like football managers referring to ‘a  good win’ in a post-match interview. What exactly would constitue a bad win?

    November 22, 2015 at 11:39 am #863093
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    wombat

    Solid choice – sure you’ll

    Solid choice – sure you’ll love em.

    November 21, 2015 at 10:59 pm #863091
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    hucko003

    Thanks all  for your advice –

    Thanks all  for your advice – will go for the Elite’s 

    November 21, 2015 at 12:36 pm #863089
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    ColT
    Anthony.C wrote:
    You are digressing into semantics.

     

    God, I hope not.  It’s more a case of a longing to see/read plain English.  I just don’t see how it adds to the quality of a review or a recommendation, unless I am missing something.  Hence the question.

    November 20, 2015 at 2:04 pm #863087
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    Simon E

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    Elite’s weight is 1550g and Pro’s are 1475 so a fair weight saving.

    A whole 75 grammes!

    November 20, 2015 at 1:38 pm #863085
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    allanj
    ColT wrote:
    Will someone please explain to me what ‘roll very nicely’ means?  See it all the time on wheel reviews.

    I’ve used dozens of wheels over the years.  I’m fairly sure they’ve all ‘rolled very nicely’, thanks largely (I guess) to the fact that they have all been round and fitted with round tyres and have been on properly mantained hubs, so what is the point of this description?

    I’m genuinely interested in how to define this term. How do you tell?  In a blind test, if it were possible, what would be the tell-tale signs of a nice/poor roller? Why would a wheel not ‘roll nicely’, assuming it has been built correctly? i.e. it is round/circular (whichever is the correct term)  

     

    Lol.  Indeed- nice rolling would seem to me a basic starting point rather than something to recommend a wheel by!  Not nice rolling would suggest knackered bearings.

    November 20, 2015 at 1:04 pm #863083
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    Anthony.C

    You are digressing into

    You are digressing into semantics.

    November 20, 2015 at 12:35 pm #863081
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    ColT

    Will someone please explain

    Will someone please explain to me what ‘roll very nicely’ means?  See it all the time on wheel reviews.

    I’ve used dozens of wheels over the years.  I’m fairly sure they’ve all ‘rolled very nicely’, thanks largely (I guess) to the fact that they have all been round and fitted with round tyres and have been on properly mantained hubs, so what is the point of this description?

    I’m genuinely interested in how to define this term. How do you tell?  In a blind test, if it were possible, what would be the tell-tale signs of a nice/poor roller? Why would a wheel not ‘roll nicely’, assuming it has been built correctly? i.e. it is round/circular (whichever is the correct term)  

    November 20, 2015 at 11:25 am #863079
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    allanj
    Anthony.C wrote:
    Why are you pushing those wheels, they look overpriced like most wheels. How about the new Wiggle Cosine alloy wheels, they look the same as the Novatec Jetfly wheels but much cheaper, or the Vittoria Elusion wheels from Merlin for £ 250 ? I just got the Vittorias myself and they roll very nicely. The new Kysiriums are wider at the rim than the old ones btw.

    I’m not pushing anything- just making suggestions, as are you.

    November 20, 2015 at 11:22 am #863077
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    Anthony.C

    Why are you pushing those

    Why are you pushing those wheels, they look overpriced like most wheels. How about the new Wiggle Cosine alloy wheels, they look the same as the Novatec Jetfly wheels but much cheaper, or the Vittoria Elusion wheels from Merlin for £ 250 ? I just got the Vittorias myself and they roll very nicely. The new Kysiriums are wider at the rim than the old ones btw.

    November 20, 2015 at 10:08 am #863075
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    allanj

    If you are going for the

    If you are going for the elites then I’d suggest going for the new wider ones- the traditional ones are pretty narrow and don’t give the best profile to 25mm tyres.

     

    For that sort of money I’d consider these: http://www.huntbikewheels.com/collections/road-rim-brake-wheels/products/hunt-race-season-aero-wide-road-wheelset-1480g-31deep-24wide which have a similar weight and a more aero profile.  The Kysriums are a bit old school box section.

    November 18, 2015 at 11:04 am #863073
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    Scoob_84

    I’d get myself a pair of

    I’d get myself a pair of these for that money. 

    http://thecycleclinic.co.uk/collections/road-rim-brake-wheelsets/products/pacenti-sl23-build-with-white-industries-t11-hubs

     

    November 17, 2015 at 7:54 pm #863071
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    wombat

    I can’t comment with any

    I can’t comment with any authority as I haven’t used the Pros. But I have got the latest Ksyrium elites, and compared to my old Aksums they are lovely. I’m sure they’d be a great upgrade over any stock wheels.

    I don’t think I was aware of the Pros when I bought, but I don’t think I would have spent the extra £150 just for 75g saving. A lot of that saving is presumably in the carbon hub, so unlikely to make any perceptible difference to speed. You could save a similar weight by swapping out the skewers on the Elites – and that would be a lot cheaper 🙂

    Sigmasport have a 10% voucher running right now btw, so both sets a fair bit cheaper than Evans.

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