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Has the move to full internal cable routing on road bikes been worth it? We asked some experts to weigh in on cycling's cable-tidy revolution

Bikes with all cables concealed look the part and are mooted as aerodynamic perfection... but they can also be a right pain in the proverbials for home mechanics. We asked those in the know if they think the positives outweigh the negatives

Bikes with internal cable routing looks super slick and cleaner than the most minimalist of whistles. But beyond the aesthetics has the move to full internal cable routing really been worth all the extra hassle we're told it comes with? We talked to industry experts, from aerodynamicists to framebuilders and WorldTour mechanics, to find out…

The cycling establishment

Miles Hubbard is road product manager at biking behemoths Specialized Do you have data showing the drag-reducing claims of internal cable routing?

MH: We’ve studied the effect of exposed cables on drag since the inception of our Win Tunnel [Specialized's own purpose-built wind tunnel]. We don’t just integrate cables for the clean aesthetics. It does look great, but it also makes a difference for aerodynamics. Over 40km, hiding a pair of brake lines saves around six seconds at 45kph.

2024 Soudal Quick-Step Specialized Tarmac SL8 road bike

How do you perceive how easy, or not, it is for the home mechanic to work on internal routing?

We work on our bikes at home, too. We get it! We strive to make our bikes with integrated cables as easy to work on as we can, but it’s no secret that integrated cables require extra effort to maintain over time and that’s not a worthwhile feature for all riders. That’s why we make plenty of bikes with standard cable routing, too.

Any advice for readers (and the staff) regarding internal cable-routing jobs?

When it comes to bikes that are integrated, here are few helpful thoughts to bear in mind…

  • For two-piece integrated cockpits, it’s useful to hide the brake hoses under the stem, not through the stem. The Tarmac SL7 stem is a good example of a system that neatly hides the cables while keeping simple fit changes like stem swaps easy. You won’t have to cut hydraulic lines and re-bleed brakes for most stem swaps.
  • When it comes to travelling with an integrated cockpit, bikes that have a small amount of brake line hidden beneath the stem make it easier to remove the cockpit and pack in most travel cases. The SL7 stem and Roval Rapide cockpit are good examples of integrated bike designs that make travelling with an integrated bike easier.

With the WorldTour starting in Australia – the Tour Down Under – when you introduce a new bike to a team, do you show them how to maintain it? This is especially true of internal cable routing

As long-term partners we have great relationships with our teams [Soudal Quick-Step and Bora-Hansgrohe], and work closely with the mechanics and athletes when new bikes and equipment are introduced. Our bikes have had integrated cables for several years now, so for our teams and pro mechanics it’s about as simple as changing a tyre. They are experts.

The race mechanic

Klas Johansson is an experienced mechanic at the top level. His current team is Norwegian UCI ProTeam Uno-X Mobility, who harbour ambitions to make the WorldTour, an experience Johansson’s already enjoyed with the likes of MTN-Qhubeka, Israel Start-Up Nation and Lotto-Soudal

Uno X Dare

What’s your experience of internal cable routing?

KJ: Currently, our bikes are from DARE, which is a Taiwanese bike company, but I’ve worked with so many other bike brands including BMC, Ridley and Factor. They were okay to work with but DARE’s the easiest – maybe a round fork helps as the others were all with square or similar forks – albeit they’re all time consuming. Then again, us race mechanics are dealing with just one brand of bike. I can’t imagine how tough it must be if you’re a bike shop mechanic and one minute you’re working on a Canyon and the next a Cervélo. I imagine the customer’s a little surprised when they get the bill as these things take time.

At a Grand Tour is it common to have cable routing issues?

No. In fact it’s less likely than any race because so much preparation work goes into a race like the Tor de France or Giro d’Italia. If a bike had a shitty headset or similar, you’d discover and sort the problem at the service course. Then again, if you have to change the headset, say, at the Tour, it’s easy. You might be able to do it in the truck, with decent light and a nice temperature. That’s not the same at a race like Paris-Nice where it’s often raining, windy and you’re stuck outside. You also have rest days for repair jobs and more mechanics. 

So, you don’t awake in a sweat dreaming of a return to external cable routing?

No. Anyway, the industry’s decided it’s not going to happen. And this is now part of what we do. You learn to work with the specific frame, the specific headset, the specific fork… and work out little tricks to speed up the process. Still, a full internal cable routing change can take an hour and a half.

ceramicspeed slt headset (CeramicSpeed)
CeramicSpeed's SLT headset could possibly solve some cable headaches for mechanics when it comes to full internal routing

Any tips you can offer our readers?

Not tips but hope! With Uno-X Mobility we have CeramicSpeed as a sponsor. In November a representative of CeramicSpeed visited us and introduced what I feel could be a gamechanger. Let me explain… we often have to change headsets, which is always a pain when internally routing cables. CeramicSpeed’s created a headset, the SLT, that features a polymer plastic base and stainless-steel balls that are self-lubricating. Also, they are sealed superbly, making it almost impossible for water or contaminants to penetrate. If it works it’ll be revolutionary. And I’m sure it will as they’re also using it in the rear suspension of mountain bikes, which deals with a load of shit. I’m sure other companies will follow their lead.

Marginal gains: the aero expert

Dr Xavier Disley heads up Droitwich-based aero aficionados AeroCoach. What Disley doesn’t know about cutting drag isn’t worth knowing. We simply asked Disley if he’d looked into the aerodynamic benefits (or not) of internal over external cabling…

“We’ve done stuff in the tunnel and on the track around cables, but it’s difficult to get rid of them on a bike that doesn’t have the capacity to remove things entirely, so we can use some of that tidying data along with calculations.

wind tunnel - via aerocoach

“CdA is the drag value we’re looking to establish for a cable. As long as the cable isn’t doing something exciting like acting as a splitter over a shape behind it, then removing the cable will reduce the CdA of the bike.

> Has aero gone too far? 

“CdA is made up of two components – the Cd (drag coefficient) and the A (frontal area). Cd represents how aero the shape is, so an airfoil shape will have a lower Cd than a flat plate; the A is just the silhouette of the object. A cylinder will have a Cd of roughly 0.5; we can establish a baseline for the frontal area by taking something like a 5mm brake outer, multiplied by a typical exposed length that is dead on to the airflow (around 130mm for handlebar to front rim brake for example).

2024 Orro Venturi STC SRAM Force eTap Tailor Made - head tube.jpg

“That gives us a CdA for an exposed 130mm brake cable of 0.000325m^2. At 45kph this is equivalent to around 0.4 watts. If you have four of these cable sets at the front of the bike, then you’re looking at around 1.6 watts in total.

“When we’ve tested it on the track or in the tunnel, we’ve never seen more than a two-watt saving on a higher-end bike and sometimes none at all, which matches up with the calculation and also margin for error. At a lower speed – say 30kph – this 1.6 watts at 45kph is reduced to around 0.5 watts, so not a lot. But any advantage is worth having, of course."

A bike brand going against the grain

Icelandic brand Lauf is known for its gravel bikes. But Reykjavik’s finest launched its first road bike, the Úthald, at the end of last year, promising “aero where it makes sense”. That meant bucking the trend for internal cable routing, stating that “fully internal routing is mostly an aesthetics thing, best served to cyclists that find it difficult looking at brake hoses entering bike frames”. Here’s Lauf CEO Benedikt Skulason to explain why…

What do you see as the main benefits of external over internal cabling?

BS: We wanted to ‘optimise’ Úthald to make you faster. That clearly meant prioritising the ease of fit-changes, travelling, servicing and reliability. We prioritised that over the less-than-a-single watt of potential savings of fully hiding a pair of brake hoses from bar to frame/fork.

2024 Lauf Uthald - front.jpg
Hello cables

Have you seen any studies showing internal cable routing reduces drag compared to external?

Yes, but the ones we’ve seen are flawed; in other words, we don’t feel they resemble real road-bike riding. They don’t explicitly lie. But through presentation discreteness and skill, they do. They exaggerate the drag of external cables by all possible means, giving you a massively inflated number. That high number is left in your head as the key takeaway message and only then, to maintain credibility and to keep it “honest”, they subtly tell you that this number is in extreme circumstances. They look to avoid drawing attention to the fact that their inflated number is not just too high, it’s an order of magnitude too high!

How do companies inflate the drag?

In my opinion, there are five ways…

1) Testing done with four cables – in other words, non-wireless shifting – rather than two as seen on modern, wirelessly shifting high-end road bikes.

2) Neglect the required larger frontal area of a fully internally routed bike frame. (To house a larger upper headset bearing, the headtube needs to be bigger.)

3) Testing done without a rider on the bike. This is a simplification that exaggerates the drag of the cables. Including a rider would reduce the system’s overall ‘drag addition’ caused by an object upstream of the rider, as a given air molecule pulled along by the cables is likely going to hit the rider behind it at a lesser speed than what it otherwise would have done. Not including a rider in testing is incorrectly assuming that air pulled along by cables would never have gone on to affect the rider. A parallel example of this phenomenon that some might remember is testing that surprised many by showing that a beard added minimal drag. That beard would certainly have been shown to add significant drag if it had been tested without its owner resting behind it.

4) Testing is generally done at unrealistic speeds, without attempts to explain how (extremely!) misleading that is. Power required to sustain a certain speed against the wind grows to the power of three. So, if we assume someone claimed 1W saved at 45km/hr, then the savings become, at 35km/hr (TT-style, no-drafting) 0.47W, and at 25km/h (TT-style, no-drafting) 0.17W. That’s minimal to say the least.

5) It skews results further to focus on time-trial riding values where any aero benefits are greatly exaggerated compared to road riding where riders frequently draft other riders.

2024 Lauf Uthald - lever.jpg

Are you concerned that cyclists will be put off the Uthald because of your cabling choice?

Yes, it would be hard to go against the stream like that on an all-in aero bike. However, the point with our Úthald was to make a road bike that would make you as fast as possible. Regardless of labels. Optimising a single ‘tool’ to gain speed (aero in this case) is another way of saying you're turning a blind eye to other things you might be sacrificing that’d eventually make you faster. On Úthald we do aero where we can, while also preserving other things we like.

The master framebuilder

The Campag Kid – aka Alan – is a cycling enthusiast and online sensation who’s built a cult following by restoring and building Campagnolo-equipped bikes

It’s a big subject, but what are your general thoughts on internal cable routing?

CK: Manufacturers have come up with dream bikes where you cannot see any cables. But the build time for these bikes is phenomenal. It’s why buying framesets is now rare. Imagine the rider who buys a frameset from Specialized, Colnago or Pinarello and has to work out how to manage hydraulic cables and the electrics.

Things have changed somewhat then!

Beyond the pale. At the beginning, frames were nearly bare as you didn’t have derailleur gears. When cables came in, they were bolted on [to the frame] with clips. This was around the 1940s and 1950s. Framebuilders then started to braze clips on, which changed the process of building a bike because you were thinking about cables from the start.

Pope MFG model 38 1 - via the saleroom
No need for cables before derailleur gears came along

In the early to mid-1980s, bike companies started experimenting with putting the brake cables through the handlebars. This was the start of internal cabling. That was a real breakthrough, but the frames themselves stayed with external cabling. That was especially true of carbon bikes because manufacturers were understandably concerned with putting holes in their shiny carbon frames, this being before the detailed computer analysis that’s seen in today’s frame design. That changed well over a decade ago thanks to the likes of Colnago, albeit electronic gear shifting systems made things even more complicated.

> The Campag Kid on the Podcast

Wiring a frame with Shimano Di2 or Campagnolo EPS wiring is a nightmare. If you ever get a problem and you damage the charging port, for instance, you’ve got to rewire the bike, which means stripping it right down. Which means you’ve got to start fishing around inside with special cable kits.

Don’t get me wrong, I love EPS and Di2. The simplicity of just pushing a button. They’re worth the hassle, but they’re just not great if you’re not a mechanic. If you can’t afford to take it to a shop or there’s no shop in your area, you’re stuffed. Disc brakes and internal routing’s complicated the picture further.

Is this the end of the home mechanic?

I might not go that far, but framebuilders and the OEMs that build the bikes have a lot more things to think about, which simply aren’t on the radar of a home mechanic. Even simple stuff. For example, many people forget that when the OEMs internally route, they wrap the cables in sponge foam to prevent rattling inside. If the home mechanic works on their bike, they throw it away thinking it’s packaging… and are then surprised with the rattling noise that’s appeared on their next ride!  

Any signs that cabling complexities might improve?

Well, it won’t be long before wireless works its way down the groupset ladder and the only cables you’ll have to worry about are the hydraulic ones. Mind you, it might not be long before bikes take a leaf out of the automobile industry and integrate brake-by-wire systems. I know Shimano have been messing around with patents for a similar system. Essentially, this is a brake-by-wire system that controls the brakes electronically. A position sensor monitors how far the driver has pushed the brake pedal, which then determines the amount of braking force requested. A control unit determines how much hydraulic pressure is required, and an electric pump is used to generate that pressure and stop the car. All of this happens in an instant.

2023 Campagnolo Super Record Wireless - on bike - lever detail 2.jpg

So, what is the future?

If you think about it from a business and engineering perspective, the bike is edging closer to the car. Not in the way it’s utilised, of course, but the car business model is that they don’t want customers messing around with vehicles. They just want the customer to get in the car, drive it and then when it needs servicing, they come into the dealership and spend more money.

Cycling is going the same way. They don’t want Freds meddling in a shed. They want customers to be fully engaged, to take their Specialized or whatever back for a fluid change or the like. Internal cable routing’s a big driver of this change. Ultimately, it could even become a lease model. Use them, take them back, lease another.

What do you think about full internal cable routing on bikes? Let us know in the comments as always. 

James is an experienced cycling writer whose palmares includes penning three books. His latest, Riding with the Rocketmen, charted his painful journey to the Etape du Tour finish line. Along the way, he learnt from Ineos in Andorra, got aero with Lawson Craddock in a wind-tunnel and cyclocrossed with Nick Craig. Despite that, he remained steadfastly moderate! He also edits the official Tour de France Guide, plus pens words for many other outlets, both in print and digital. 

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msackman | 6 months ago

Seems strange to me that Lauf seems to be in favour of catering for self-builders, and yet I can't for the life of me find where on their website they sell framesets for the Uthald. Seems to be complete bikes only.

Veganpotter replied to msackman | 6 months ago

Definitely seems like they just want a slice of the pie but don't wanna do the work. I have two Lauf suspension forks. I love them because they never need maintenance and they're very light. They should just go that route if they're making frames. Light, simple, low effort but less capable

froze | 6 months ago
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I seriously doubt there is a 1.5 watt deduction.

I've been watching watts measurements for anything and everything on a bike to the rider and then discovered something interesting.

Since 1963 the average speed of the TDF has only gone up by about 3.5 mph till 2021.  Wow! 3.5 mph with all the money and science being poured into pro bicycles, and that's all we get?  This has been a very slow and gradual change.

But wait, it gets better.  Since 1963 till now, the average distance raced at the TDF has been gradually reduced by about 500 miles!

As the miles raced gradually went down, the average speed gradually went up.  Cause and effect.

What this is telling me, is that the 3.5 mph gain we see today is due mostly to riders who are not getting as tired as they were back in back in the 60s and 70s.

Personally, I think all of the watts-saving stuff we can buy is all about marketing, making us think and believe we'll be faster if we just buy this new thing because it's more aero.  And this aero stuff becomes even more useless if a person isn't a pro cyclist, or even a racer at all.   I recall a movie line that said: "SHOW ME THE MONEY!"

festina replied to froze | 6 months ago
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Oh you forgot the improvements in training methods since the 60s. HR monitors, power meters etc.
If you are sat in the bunch how much difference will external cables make. That's for a pro. For a club rider who isn't actually racing it saves no time but costs a lot (either your own time or the lbs time) in changing anything on the front end.

mark1a replied to froze | 6 months ago

Once again you've trotted out the old line about the negligible speed increase and shorter distances over 60 years in the TdF, while not considering that in the time, the elevation has increased significantly, and there is almost certainly less pharmaceutical assistance in the peloton. 

john_smith replied to froze | 6 months ago

What are you talking about? 3.5 mph is a massive increase.

Rendel Harris replied to froze | 6 months ago

As Mark points out below, and as has been pointed out to you previously, your Tour metric is pretty meaningless, ignoring as it does the increased frequency and severity of climbs, the virtual abolition of long flat transition stages etc. However, even if you take it at face value, 3.5mph higher average speed is a huge increase, around 15%: translated into real world terms, it would mean the 2024 rider finishing a 150 mile stage 40-50 minutes ahead of their 1963 equivalent and beating them in the Tour overall by something like fifteen hours - a pretty significant "only". 

Of course all these micro-improvements taken in isolation seem a bit daft to a non-racer - who really cares about 1.5 watts here or there on a Sunday morning potter - but if cumulatively they translate into my being able to ride 100 miles 15% faster, or at the same speed with 15% less effort, yes please.


marmotte27 replied to Rendel Harris | 6 months ago

3,5mph is significant, as long as we are aware that next to none of it has anything to do with aero, ceramic or unobtainium whatnots. It's about better training, and better doping.

Veganpotter replied to froze | 6 months ago

Look at the pursuit times on the velodrome and you'll see how important tech actually is. Also, there's a lot more depth than there used to be

pablo | 6 months ago

Not sure what the problem is I have a mechanical disc bike which I've changed the cables several times. Just stick the cable in at the bars and it pops out at the BB. I thought it was going to be a nightmare but No drama. Cleaning and servicing the headset is a pain as it has to be done on the bike with the fork hanging from the cables/pipes but it can be done. I can bleed brakes in about 30 minutes it's not that difficult to strip the fork out completely but I've always serviced on the bike.
I see all of these horror stories as the old guard resisting change let me think..... Carbon frames, disc brakes, cassettes bigger than a 25 tooth, tubeless, aero, lightweight, etc. The list goes on.

Veganpotter replied to pablo | 6 months ago

Easiest trick for me is using a tandem cable to run new housing by pulling it through the old stuff. It's extremely fast

pneves | 6 months ago

Ah, the rabit hole! Let's go throught it.

Many people buy a given bike because they watch the TdF and search for them online. The catchphrase "Bikes of the pro peloton" gets a lot of hits. So it is normal.

What is not normal is for people to want a given item and pay what they used to for less sophisticated/less performant item. It is good to have choices, and just because I cannot afford the top bike does not give me the right to rant about it.

As for the cable routing. I completly assume that a mechanical actuated transmission has no space in fully integrated frames. Many manufacturers do this, only eletronic shifting is alowed. If you don't want to pay for it then buy a non integrated cable routing frame. 

SRAM and Campagnolo is wireless and Shimano is semi-wireless. So no more eletric wires coming from the cockpit. The hydraulic hoses need changing at most every 6/7 years. The headsets, if good quality and well maintained can last almost as much or more. On my bike the lower headset bearing was a little rough after 115 thounsand kilomenters and I decided to change it, but there was no absolute need. Just take care of the system and use good quality parts (check quality level at the workshop before connecting hydraulic lines and replace if needed).

As for aerodynamics I think this is a place where the bike industry is at fault. There is no aero benefit to gain outside racing (even so...). The aesthetics alone is enough to warrant consumers for these frames. The problem is that middle and even lower tier frames are being built with fully internal routing. So fully internal routing for the masses that will not be happy to pay a premium for a given service, since the bike itself is not premium!



festina replied to pneves | 6 months ago

40 years ago you bought a bike, if the stem position wasn't quite right you changed it. 1 minute work and a single allen key.
20 years ago you bought a bike and the stem height wasn't quite right you changed it. Couple of allen keys, swap spacers, 2 minute job.
Now, you buy a new bike and the position isn't quite right it's an hour job with specialised tools (and knowledge) or £50 at the LBS.
Let's hope you don't need to change position again.

Veganpotter replied to festina | 6 months ago

Outside of your initial for fit, you shouldn't be changing position more often than you'd be replacing cables/housing anyway

Veganpotter replied to pneves | 6 months ago

I have a Domane that's really best suited for electronic shifting and hydraulic housing. But I can't stand the hood feel on any hydraulic hoods. So I'm running 12sp converted red shifters and segmented jagwire housing for everything. It does the job, even with a bottomed out, -12 degree stem with very bent housing underneath

OldRidgeback | 6 months ago

It looks nice and tidy and there will be aerodynamic gains for that tiny percentage of riders able to benefit from it. But for the vast majority of riders this is needless fashion that makes replacing cables more complex IMHO. No thanks, I'm not that fast, I don't want this.

hawkinspeter replied to OldRidgeback | 6 months ago
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OldRidgeback wrote:

It looks nice and tidy and there will be aerodynamic gains for that tiny percentage of riders able to benefit from it. But for the vast majority of riders this is needless fashion that makes replacing cables more complex IMHO. No thanks, I'm not that fast, I don't want this.

There shouldn't be much requirement to replace cables if it's got hydraulic brakes and electronic shifting. However I did get a bike shop to replace the long Di2 cable from the handlebars to the bottom bracket junction box after I'd damaged it by stupidly fitting handlebars and not checking that the cable wasn't in the way.

Veganpotter replied to OldRidgeback | 6 months ago

Not having to clean around housing in itself is worth having those internal cables

mark1a | 6 months ago

...For example, many people forget that when the OEMs internally route, they wrap the cables in sponge foam to prevent rattling inside. If the home mechanic works on their bike, they throw it away thinking it’s packaging… and are then surprised with the rattling noise that’s appeared on their next ride!  

If a home mechanic (sensibly) has the manufacturer's build documents to hand prior to installing or replacing cables, this should not be a problem. For example, one of my bikes has internally cabled bars & stem and it does not rattle, and I was able to get the correct part in advance.

So therefore I don't think that internally routed cables represent the beginning of the end of cycling as we know it. 

BBB | 6 months ago

Cynical marketers have a habit of shoving BS concepts up the giullible consumers'...

cyclisto | 6 months ago

I am a slow commuter so any aero gains are just for laughs for me, but I would be happier not to have this brake cable under the top tube, as it is uncomfortable when I put it on my shoulder.

Bigtwin | 6 months ago

The aero arguent is balls for 99% of riders.  The rest depends on how well the frames and routing are designed, and many are designed very badly, esp the early internal ones.  Oh how customes love a big time bill for something that should have been quick and simple. A classic "solution looking for a problem".

Veganpotter replied to Bigtwin | 6 months ago

The funny thing is that the slower you are, the more time you save with similar aerodynamic equipment because you're on that route longer. That said, it's up to the person if they care or not

kev-s | 6 months ago
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Having just built an internal routed (through the stem and headset) bike this week i can confirm it was no more hassle than building a normal disc brake bike

Someone at work said what about if you ever have to replace the bottom headset bearing, then its a right faff

Now when that needs to be done its not much worse than changing a headset bearing on a external routed disc brake cable frame

As most manufactuers now route external disc brake frame's front brake hose through the fork leg so you stil have to disconnect the front brake anyway to remove the fork to change the bearing, also removing the rear hose isnt much more hassle

A quick brake bleed (if you do it properly you wont lose much fluid) and your good to go again

To some people it seems like a right faff but with a bit of knowledge (YouTube videos), taking your time and some mechanical sympathy means things can easily be fixed



marmotte27 | 6 months ago

I'm always flabbergasted by this aerodynamics craze, when by far (far far...) the most unaerodynamic thing on a bike is the rider. Any gains will be as large as those from ceramic bearings: negligible.

Anyway, the mainstream bike industry lost me as a customer 30 years ago, so I don't know why I even comment...

IanEdward replied to marmotte27 | 6 months ago
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I thought this was a telling sentence:

"No. Anyway, the industry’s decided it’s not going to happen."

The industry decides, not the customers 

Veganpotter replied to marmotte27 | 6 months ago

Negligible gains add up to big gains. Everyone decides if that matters to them though

Dunnoeither | 6 months ago
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I like the clean look and even though it is certainly not a performance requirement for normal riders, road bikes with external cabling will become very hard to sell outside the entry level of the market.
Bike companies need to be cost effective and will thus come up with solutions to simplify the build process as it saves them money during production and reduces the risk of warranty issues.
This will make life easier for home mechanics too and hopefully reduce the workshop bill for the rest.
Personally I don't mind still riding a road bike with external cables and I am obviously not alone with that. So even though fully integrated cabling will dominate the road bike market, external cables are here to stay!

2wheelsRbetterThan4 | 6 months ago

> They just want the customer to get in the car, drive it and then when it needs servicing, they come into the dealership and spend more money.

> Cycling is going the same way. They don’t want Freds meddling in a shed. They want customers to be fully engaged, to take their Specialized or whatever back for a fluid change or the like. Internal cable routing’s a big driver of this change. Ultimately, it could even become a lease model. Use them, take them back, lease another.

Truly horrifying 🤮 but depressingly accurate.

leedorney | 6 months ago

I used to ride the internally routed cables from Shimano, when the cabling change from side-exit from the sti levers to the internally routed variants. I got worse slower changes with them than the side exit types. Electric and hydro has solved this just like carbon rims with discs...I guess it's technology progression. I personally ride etap & unaero frame, with calipers why: because all the rigmarole of hydro/discs are just too complex, to attain a few percent of speed for internal routing is going some way, especially from a financial pov!


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