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Know your Dura-Ace from your 105? Every Shimano groupset listed with prices

​A groupset is a collection of bike components designed to work together. These days it usually means the gears and brakes on your bike. The term once included the hubs and headset too, but threadless headsets knocked the traditional groupset makers — Shimano and Campagnolo — out of the market. Nevertheless, the groupset is where a lot of the money in a new bike goes.

Japanese company Shimano is the most popular groupset manufacturer with a range of groupsets at different prices. It’s constantly updating the groupsets too, with the newest features debuting first on its top-end groupset, Dura-Ace, before eventually filtering down through the range.

Whether you’re buying a new bike, or looking to build one from scratch, it’s good to know what your options are. The more expensive groupsets are lighter and usually offer smoother gear shifting and superior braking performance, and you get more gears and with the more expensive groupsets, 11-speed on Dura-Ace, Ultegra and 105, down to 8-speed on entry-level Claris.

Here’s an overview of the entire lineup, with the most expensive at the top of the list:

The range includes six mechanical groupsets, using cables to operate the front and rear derailleurs, and there are two electronic groupsets. First introduced in 2011, electronic groupsets have proved to be extremely popular, with precise gear changes, long battery life and good durability. Whether you choose mechanical or electronic comes down to budget and personal preference.

Complete sets of the pre-2017 Dura-Ace 90XX components have sold out from major retailers. You'll still find individual parts, though, so we've retained some basic information about them here.

At the moment, both the 2018 Ultegra R80XX and the previous 68XX components are listed by retailers. We've covered both here, but if you want to pick up the old parts at bargain prices, you're going to have to be quick.

Similarly, the new 105 R7000 components are available alongside the previous 5800 incarnation. The new kit is a bit more expensive than the old, but prices are coming down rapidly.

>>Read more: Why you should switch to electronic shifting

Shimano Dura-Ace 9150 Di2 — £1,849.99

RRP: £3,040.82

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Shimano's flagship component group gets a major facelift and some new options for 2017. The mechanical and Di2 electronic groups share the same chainset, brakes and other non-shifting components, but with Di2 you get switches on the brake levers, derailleurs with built-in motors and the battery, wiring and control box that ties it all together.

The major new feature of Di2 is Synchronized Shift, a technology borrowed from Shimano's mountain bike Di2 components. Rather than buttons controlling front and rear derailleurs independently, one pair of buttons moves up and down the gear ratios, making shifts at the front or rear derailleur, or both, as necessary.

Shimano says this is “designed to simplify gear choice and reduce decision making in racing situations.”

There are two modes. If you go for the Full Shimano Sychronized Shift, the front derailleur reacts based on the rear derailleur’s shift action. You don’t need to use two separate shifters, you just use one. Press one button and the gear will get harder to turn, press the other button and the gear will get easier. If that requires a front shift, the system will take care of that automatically; you don’t need to worry about it.

If you go for Semi Shimano Synchronized Shift mode: the rear derailleur reacts based on the front derailleur’s shift action, shifting to the next most appropriate rear gear when the rider makes a front shift.

A new junction box is not only very tidy — it can be hidden inside the end of the handlebar — it provides wireless ANT Private connectivity to third-party devices. The system also offers a Bluetooth connection to phones and tablets running Shimano's E-Tube software so you can program the shifting behaviour.

Buy Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 if you want the state of the Shimano art.

>>Read our review of the Dura-Ace 9150 Di2 groupset

>>Read more: New Shimano Dura-Ace R9100: 5 key innovations

Shimano Dura-Ace 9100 — £1,049.99

RRP: £1,904.91

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If your budget won't stretch to the electronic version of Dura-Ace, the mechanical version is by no means second best — it's still a superb ensemble. The 9100 group offers perhaps the widest range of options Shimano has ever offered in road bike components, including a power meter, hydraulic disc brakes, a wider gear range and an increased selection of wheels.

The 9100 group features new derailleurs too, using design features that originally appeared on Shimano's mountain bike parts to reduce the chance that the rear mech will get damaged in a crash. Just one rear derailleur will handle any gear system you choose, including the new 11-30 cassette.

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Shimano's rival SRAM has offered power meters since it acquired Quarq in 2011. With the 9100 group Shimano adds a very tidy power meter to its collection. How tidy? You can see in the pic to the right that the electronics are barely visible:

The inclusion of hydraulic disc brakes in the Dura-Ace line shows how completely Shimano has embraced road bike discs. Previously Dura-Ace equipped bikes with discs had to use Shimano's non-series brakes and levers; now they match.

If you're using rim brakes, the 9100 Dura-Ace calipers have been subtly redesigned so they'll accommodate 28mm tyres.

Finally, there's a big range of wheels in the latest Dura-Ace line up. The new C40 and C60 wheels have 28mm wide carbon fibre rims that are 40mm and 60mm deep, respectively.

Buy Shimano Dura-Ace if you're racing or doing mega distances and you want the best mechanical shifting.

>>Read our first ride review of the Shimano Dura-Ace 9100 groupset

>>Read more: Shimano reveals new top-end R9100 Dura-Ace groupset

Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 9070

RRP: £2,999.99

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As mentioned above, the previous version of Shimano's electronic groupset has just about vanished from retailers, but individual components are still available.

Dura-Ace Di2 uses a similar shifting design to mechanical, but instead of pushing two levers, you push two buttons positioned next to each other. If you want to move two or more sprockets at a time, rather than swinging the lever further like you do with a mechanical system, you just keep the button pressed down.

If you want, you can customise the shift function. Plug the groupset into a computer and you can configure the shift buttons in any way you want. You can personalise the speed of the shifting, the number of sprockets that will be shifted, and even control the rear derailleur with the left hand. An advantage of Di2 is the option of adding additional shifter pods, satellite shifters that can be fitted to the tops or the drops.

This Di2 groupset was the first from Shimano to feature an internal battery, which you can hide inside the seat post. Worried about it going flat? It’s good for a claimed 2,000km between charges. That’s lots of riding. Apart from charging the battery, there is very little to go wrong with Di2, and it’s actually really well suited to winter riding and long distance rides through demanding conditions.

>>Read our review of the Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 9070 11-speed gear system

Shimano Dura-Ace 9000 — £NA

RRP: £1,899.95

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Dura-Ace was the first Shimano groupset to go to 11 sprockets, causing some controversy at the time, but widely accepted now. Shimano has evolved the ergonomics of the hoods (the rubber part at the top of the brake lever) over the years and this design has trickled down through the ranks. This version was replaced by the current Dura-Ace 9100 and complete groupsets have all but vanished from retail.

>>Read our review of the Shimano Dura-Ace 9000 groupset

Buy Shimano Dura-Ace 9000 if you want a pro-level groupset at a bargain price

Shimano Ultegra R8000 — £549.99-£619.99

RRP: £1,100

 

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Ultegra Di2 R8050 — £1,098.90

RRP: £1,700

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Shimano announced the latest version of its number two groupset in June 2017; both mechanical and electronic versions are now widely available and appearing on bikes.

If you want high performance without the hefty price tag of Dura-Ace, then Ultegra is probably the pick of the range. Since the 6800 update, the gap between the two has been narrowed, and the R8000 incarnation looks an awful lot like the current version of Dura-Ace too. Ultegra shouldn’t be overlooked too quickly if you want high performance and decent weight components.

It’s a favourite with amateur racers because the weight penalty is minimal, especially if built onto a decent carbon fibre frame, and the performance is nearly identical. You still get the carbon fibre brake lever as well like you do on Dura-Ace, and the cranks, brakes and derailleurs share the same design as Dura-Ace.

Dura-Ace is really aimed at racing bikes, making Ultegra a more versatile groupset. With a range of chainring and cassette options, it can be fitted to all sorts of bikes, from racing cycles to touring and adventure bikes. From an 11-23t cassette and 53/39t chainset for the racers to an 11-34t cassette and 50/34t compact chainset for sportive riders, it covers a lot of uses.

RRP for the full mechanical group is £1,100 and £1,700 for the electronic version.

R8000 component weights are very similar to Ultegra 6800. The significant differences are in the shifting, which gets an Ultegra version of the Shadow rear derailleur from Dura-Ace 9100; the brakes, which have been shaped to make room for 28mm tyres; and the sprockets which now have an 11-34 option. The larger cassettes require the use of the medium-cage rear derailleur, which has been reported as working with even larger sprockets such as the 11-36 and 11-40 cassettes Shimano makes for mountain bikes, though we haven't yet tried this.

Like the previous incarnation, there's just one chainring bolt circle diameter that will take chainrings from 34 to 53 teeth. You can get the chainset with pairings of 53/39, 52/36, 50/34 and 46/36. You could change the chainrings for the riding you're going to do: a 53/39 for a race, say, and a 50/34 if you're holidaying in the Alps.

Ultegra is also available with a Di2 option. It's Shimano’s most affordable Di2 groupset, and there is no 105 Di2 on the horizon at the moment. Like Dura-Ace, both Ultegra groupsets are 11-speed.

Buy Shimano Ultegra if you want performance without the price tag of Dura-Ace.

Shimano Ultegra 6800 — £NA

RRP: £969.91

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Shimano Ultegra 6870 Di2 — £999.99

RRP: £1,499.99

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The new chainset uses the same spider design so changing rings is easy, so you could easily swap rings from racing to riding in the mountains without removing the cranks. The rear derailleur comes in short- and mid-cage lengths and can work with up to a 32-tooth sprocket on a wide-range cassette. Cassette options range from 11-23 right up to 11-32, with plenty of options in the between the two extremes.

>> Read our review of the Shimano Ultegra 6800 groupset

>> Read our review of the Shimano Ultegra Di2 6870 11-spd groupset

Shimano 105 R7000 — £399.95

RRP: £559

Shimano 105 R7000 groupset

For the 2017 bike model year we got a new Dura-Ace groupset, for 2018 Ultegra got a makeover and for the 2019 model year (which pretty much started in July 2018) Shimano's most popular groupset gets a makeover and a hike in model number from 5800 to R7000.

The main mission of 105 remains the same: excellent performance at a sensible price. It’s a very good looking groupset too and while it's a bit heavier than Dura-Ace and Ultegra, the performance runs both very close, with good shifting and braking. It’s heavier than Ultegra, but you have to be a weight weenie to worry about that.

Many of the changes from 105 5800 are visual, bringing 105 R7000 into line with the styling cues of the other two 11-speed groupsets, but there are some performance improvements too. The shift lever throw has been shortened for faster, crisper transitions, and the rear derailleurs have greater capacity. The SS short-cage derailleur can now handle a 30-tooth largest sprocket, while the long-cage GS model goes up to 34.

The rear derailleurs are Shimano's 'Shadow' design with the main parallelogram moved back and down by an extra pivot that effectively extends the gear hanger so the derailleur is tucked under the chainstay more, reducing the chance of crash damage.

The front derailleur gets the compact toggle design of Dura-Ace and Ultegra so there's no longer a gert long lever arm poking skywards from the front mech.

The big news in braking is that 105 R7000 gets its own hydraulic disc brakes and levers rather than having to make do with brakes that were 105 quality but lacked the logos and styling of the rest of the group. A disc-braked 105-equipped bike will now look 'of a piece' as it were.

Speaking of brakes, there are also restyled rim brakes for old school types. They follow the Ultegra and Dura-Ace convention of the quick-release lever tucking under the brake arm and have a couple more millimetres of brake drop than the previous 5800 brakes so they'll work with bikes that have a bit more room for fatter tyres.

You see a lot of entry-level and mid-range bikes specced with Shimano 105, it’s the workhorse of the Shimano groupset range, and features on bikes covering a really wide price band. Sometimes it gets mixed with other branded parts to meet key price points, but a full 105 groupset is definitely something to look for, as there really is no weak part of the groupset.

Buy Shimano 105 R7000 if you want the latest version of the most affordable 11-speed groupset

Shimano 105 5800 — £319.96 (£429.95 with disc brakes)

RRP: £600

 

 

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There's still plenty of the previous version of 105 in the shops and it's excellent value for money, especially if you don't need the relatively small performance tweaks of the R7000 parts. It’s a very good looking groupset, but more than that, it’s an excellent performance groupset for the money. It’s a bit heavier than Dura-Ace and Ultegra, but the performance runs both very close, with good shifting and braking.

>>Read our review of the Shimano 105 5800 11-speed groupset

Buy Shimano 105 if you want the most affordable 11-speed groupset

Shimano Tiagra 4700 — £314.99

RRP: £540.91

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Shimano’s fourth-tier groupset was updated for 2016. The changes bring it the appearance of Shimano 105 above it, with the same four-arm crankset and new shifters, with the gear and brake cables hidden underneath the bar tape. As well as the drop-bar kit, Tiagra will be available with flat bar levers and shifters, so expect to see it on commuter and city bikes as well.

Tiagra retains the 10-speed configuration, though, and that could be a deciding factor if choosing between Tiagra and 105. There’s no 53/39t chainset option for Tiagra either. Shimano reckon that most people buying a Tiagra-equipped bike probably won’t be racing it and won’t need the really high gears. The 52/36t, 50/34t and 50/39/30t triple chainset options still provide plenty of range, and 52/36t is just fine for most racers.

>>Read our first ride review of the Shimano Tiagra 4700 groupset

Buy Shimano Tiagra if you want good value and performance, and don’t mind not having 11-speed (but for another £100 (less if you shop around) you can upgrade to 105)

Shimano Sora R3000 — £299.95

RRP: £417.91

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Underneath Tiagra is Shimano’s Sora groupset, which had a major facelift for 2017. It now matches the higher groups in the range visually, with its four-arm chainset, and a similar grey finish (though we can't be the only ones who wish for a shinier option). It’s a 9-speed groupset, but it’s still excellent for the money and does 90% of what the more expensive groupsets do; it just weighs a bit more.

You get proper Dual Control gear shifters, with the brake lever changing down the cassette and the smaller lever changing to a higher gear. That’s essentially the same system as used to be on Dura-Ace a few years ago. You have double and triple chainset options, and the rear derailleur will accommodate an 11-32t cassette along with a 50/34t compact chainset.

Other similarities with the more expensive groupsets include the Hollowtech 2 bottom bracket, with the bearings sitting outboard of the frame.

Buy Shimano Sora if you want performance and value

Shimano Claris 2400

RRP: £306.69

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Claris is Shimano’s most affordable road bike groupset and is what you can expect to see on sub-£500 road bikes. The most recent update to the groupset was in 2013, when it received the same Dual Control combined brake/gear levers as Sora above it, with the downshift behind the brake lever rather than a thumb button. Claris really does have the quality feel of the more expensive Shimano groupsets.

It’s an 8-speed groupset and is aimed at beginner and new cyclists, and so you have triple chainset (53/39/30), compact (50/34) and cyclocross (46/34) chainset options, along with an 11-32t cassette. Getting up climbs won’t be a problem with the lowest gearing available with Claris. The chainsets use the older Octalink bottom bracket standard.

>> Read more: New Shimano Claris groupset in detail

>>Read our review of the Claris-equipped eview: Cube Peloton

Buy Shimano Claris if you’re on a budget

Hydraulic disc brakes

We can't have a guide to Shimano groupsets and not mention the brakes. Shimano offers a choice of regular dual pivot or newer direct mount brake calipers, and also an increasing choice of disc brakes. Most groupsets now have dedicated disc brakes, and there still plenty of 'non-series' disc brakes around too, with options for electronic and mechanical shifting. The 105 R7000 disc brakes haven't yet reached retailers.

Shimano Dura-Ace Di2 R9170 disc brakes and shifters — ~£900 (complete set)

Shimano Dura-Ace R9120 disc brakes and shifters — ~£660 (complete set)

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Shimano says these are its first discs designed specifically for road bikes, rather than being adapted from mountain bike brakes. At an RRP of £450 per end for the mechanical-shifting version they're also the most expensive brakes Shimano has ever made. Like the R785 and RS685 brakes, below, they're available with 140mm and 160mm CenterLock rotors.

Disc brakes have numerous advantages over rim brakes: they're less affected by water; they're unaffected by rim damage and they provide finer control over braking power than is possible with rim brakes.

Hydraulic brakes also self-centre and automatically compensate for pad wear, neither of which you get with cables, and both of which are real benefits.

Buy if: You want Shimano's latest and best disc brakes — and you have deep pockets.

Ultegra R8000 disc brakes and shifters — £407.50 (complete set)

Ultegra R8070 Di2 disc brakes and shifters — ~£500 (complete set)

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With the R8000 components, Shimano has introduced its first Ultegra-labelled disc brakes, with variants at the hydraulic levers for mechanical and electronic shifting.

Like the previous non-series disc brakes they use Shimano's Flat-Mount standard for a tidy appearance.

Shimano 105 R7020£211.49/brake & lever

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The first Shimano 105-level disc brakes were pretty good, but with the new hydraulic system, the R7020 lever and the R7070 calliper, Shimano has upped its game significantly. They're still quite expensive as an upgrade, but definitely one to look out for if you're in the market for a new disc-braked road bike.

The new R7020 lever is a full redesign and it's a much better overall shape. The extra width of the lever at the bottom meant that the bottom of the hood sat away from the bar tape a bit; it was noticeable close up but not really an issue.

The 105 brakes work brilliantly out of the box, and they're almost entirely fuss-free. These brakes bite when you'd expect them to in the lever travel, and from there there's masses of stopping power available as and when you need it. The reach is adjustable, but there's also a new, smaller lever (R7025) that should be ideal for those with smaller hands. The amount of effort you have to put in to control your speed on the steep, loose back road descents round here is genuinely a revelation compared to rim brakes or mechanical disc brakes.

Read our review of the Shimano 105 R7020 hydraulic disc brakes

Shimano RS505 disc brakes — £289.51

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The 105 level hydraulic disc brakes are based on the RS685 hydraulic brakes with mechanical shifting (below), but have a new ergonomically shaped hood design. To save weight, and keep the cost down, the brake levers are aluminium rather than carbon fibre. There's 10mm of reach adjustment so you can tune the lever to your hands.

>> Read more: Shimano hydraulic discs trickle down to 105 level

Shimano Tiagra RS405 disc brakes and levers — ~£255

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Shimano announced the Tiagra disc brakes in March 2016 and they're now a common sight on bikes around the £1,200 mark. The lever shape looks very much like that of the existing 11-speed RS505 hydraulic lever, although the BR-RS405 lever is 10-speed rather than 11-speed. Tiagra is currently Shimano's only 10-speed road system, so while they're not startlingly cheaper than 105, they're the only game in town of you want to upgrade a 10-speed-equipped bike to hydraulic stoppers.

>>Read more: Shimano unveils Tiagra hydraulic disc brakes

Shimano 'non-series' RS785 Di2 disc brakes and levers — ~£263

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Shimano’s first road-specific disc brake offers a genuine improvement in braking power and control. The system comprises brake calipers, disc rotors and brake levers, and you can combine with either Dura-Ace Di2 or Ultegra Di2 11-speed groupsets.

Shimano's road disc brake system has been designed for use with 140mm or 160mm rotors, with the idea being that users can choose the size to suit their weight and intended use. The rotors are designed to combat overheating with fins and grooves. They are CenterLock only, there's no 6-bolt option.

Buy if you want electronic shifting and hydraulic disc brakes

>>Read our review of the Shimano RS785 road hydraulic discs

Shimano 'non-series' RS685 disc brakes and levers— £349.99

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But what if you don't want Di2 with your hydraulic disc brakes? Shimano was listening, and RS685 is the result. It offers mechanical gear shifting with hydraulic disc brakes. Shimano sees this as an Ultegra level brakeset but as it’s 11-speed it’s compatible with Dura-Ace and 105.

ST-RS685 uses the same brake caliper as BR-RS785, it’s just the brake lever that is actually different. Shimano has included a mineral oil reservoir and brake system in the mechanical lever while managing to keep that lever compact. The lever features a 10mm reach adjustment to customise the fit for people with smaller or larger hand.

>>Read our first ride on the Shimano RS685 hydraulic disc brakes

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handlebarcam [1172 posts] 2 years ago
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What a ceaseless cavalcade of grey. Dark grey, light grey, medium grey. How unutterably tedious.

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fukawitribe [2628 posts] 2 years ago
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handlebarcam wrote:

What a ceaseless cavalcade of grey. Dark grey, light grey, medium grey. How unutterably tedious.

...just like the utterly predictable and pointless sniping from people who have a fixation with another groupset or manufacturer 

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Vejnemojnen [289 posts] 2 years ago
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complaining about the apperance of shimano groups is boooooring.

 

they look good imho, and do a great job, sell for reasonable prices, work reliably for years.

 

bashing the lack of colour choices is pointless.

 

btw, sora 3500 is no longer current.

 

r3000 is the name of the new boy!

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tritecommentbot [2266 posts] 2 years ago
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No word on the crankset + power meter price yet?

 

Guessing over a grand 

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Gromski [58 posts] 2 years ago
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Does anyone know why 105 has a number and not a name, like the other gruppos?

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tritecommentbot [2266 posts] 2 years ago
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Gromski wrote:

Does anyone know why 105 has a number and not a name, like the other gruppos?

 

No but it's weird that reviewers or people who meet shimano reps haven't found out in all these years!

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Vejnemojnen [289 posts] 2 years ago
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Gromski wrote:

Does anyone know why 105 has a number and not a name, like the other gruppos?

 

well, ultegra used to be called "600", and formerly tiagra was known as "rx-100" (A550), and even sora had a sexier name under "rsx" (A410)

 

it is classical, back from the mid-eighties, when shim introduced the 105 lineage.  1 

 

btw, my very favourite generation of 105 components is actually the 1051 (updated 1050) with dark anodized brake levers&brake bodies (kinda greenish colour)

 

https://www.google.hu/search?q=shimano+1051+green+anodized&source=lnms&t...

 

the very first with indexed shifting, concealed brake cable routing and with calipers with micro-ball bearings.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRJ0wonnxLw

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MBWB [21 posts] 2 years ago
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handlebarcam wrote:

What a ceaseless cavalcade of grey. Dark grey, light grey, medium grey. How unutterably tedious.

 

Isnt it that colour as it slimming???

Seriously though, what colour do you want your groupset to be? Is your car's steering wheel green????

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StraelGuy [1602 posts] 2 years ago
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The internet is rather shy regarding the origin on the 105 groupset name. The only vaguely plausible story I managed to find is that when they thinking of names for the groupset, Levi 501 jeans were absolutely massive in Japan, the whole country was going 501 crazy, and Shimano cashed in by naming the groupset 105 hoping to attracting some of the cache of the jeans.

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jollygoodvelo [1748 posts] 2 years ago
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I'd always assumed it was some sort of Japanese linguistic thing - ichi-maru-go (one-oh-five) or hyaku-go (one hundred and five) might mean something.

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andyp [1599 posts] 2 years ago
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guyrwood wrote:

The internet is rather shy regarding the origin on the 105 groupset name. The only vaguely plausible story I managed to find is that when they thinking of names for the groupset, Levi 501 jeans were absolutely massive in Japan, the whole country was going 501 crazy, and Shimano cashed in by naming the groupset 105 hoping to attracting some of the cache of the jeans.

 

You really need to get out more  3

 

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soresaddlesam [1 post] 2 years ago
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I Currently have a 2012 Trek Madone 4.7 with Ultegra. As I have a new BTW scheme available to me I was thinking of a change and want to figure out the following :-

Is the new Shimano 105 11 Speed Groupset better / lighter than the 2012 Ultegra Groupset currently on my Madone?

Probably not much in it but just trying to justify a change to a Trek Emonda SL 5 (love that green colour it comes in and gets some great reviews) and going from ultegra down to 105 might seem like a step in the wrong direction.

 

 

 

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sunnyape [43 posts] 1 year ago
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There is also a 10 speed hydraulic brake lever set for use with Tiagra 4700. The model number is ST-RS405 and they look identical to the ST-RS505.

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srchar [1095 posts] 1 year ago
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I have an old Felt road bike with shiny Ultegra 6600, which just refuses to die and still shifts very nicely indeed. It's my second-favourite groupset after current Campag Chorus.

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muffies [81 posts] 1 year ago
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Di2 + hydro brakes is waaay too expensive.

Makes SRAM eTap look normally priced.

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THQ Rider [2 posts] 1 year ago
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Really useful overview - thanks.

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DrG82 [244 posts] 1 year ago
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A question for the crowd.

I've got a 2015 Giant TCR3 (the best I could get on my cycle to work scheme) with Tiagra 4600. I've been considering getting a 105 groupset and transfering the tiagra to my old commuter bike, is 105 that much of an upgrade that it's worth the £350 upgrade? I've already upgrade the wheels to 11 speed compatible so that's not an issue.

 

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Mungecrundle [1175 posts] 1 year ago
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DrG82 wrote:

A question for the crowd.

I've got a 2015 Giant TCR3 (the best I could get on my cycle to work scheme) with Tiagra 4600. I've been considering getting a 105 groupset and transfering the tiagra to my old commuter bike, is 105 that much of an upgrade that it's worth the £350 upgrade? I've already upgrade the wheels to 11 speed compatible so that's not an issue.

 

What is your Tiagra not doing for you that the cost and hassle of upgrading will solve?

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DrG82 [244 posts] 1 year ago
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Mungecrundle wrote:
DrG82 wrote:

A question for the crowd.

I've got a 2015 Giant TCR3 (the best I could get on my cycle to work scheme) with Tiagra 4600. I've been considering getting a 105 groupset and transfering the tiagra to my old commuter bike, is 105 that much of an upgrade that it's worth the £350 upgrade? I've already upgrade the wheels to 11 speed compatible so that's not an issue.

 

What is your Tiagra not doing for you that the cost and hassle of upgrading will solve?

 

The cable routing from the hoods is a bit irritating as my front light shines off it and the hoods are are a bit fat for my stubby little fingers so brake reach is an issue.

Also, the cranks are pretty beefy and I'm fancying a slightly shorter crank length although I don't really know if I'll notice the difference.

I also have cheapo tektro brakes and peope tell me that the 105 brakes are signifficantly better.

The other thing is that my commuter bike needs a new chain and cassette (maybe a BB too) so swapping things over would save my spending £45-65 on that.

And the bar tape needs changing (a job I've been intending to do for ages and have the tape ready to go) so that's another £10.

But then it all works and is in pretty good condition so am I just being lured towards shiny stuff.

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Duncann [1443 posts] 1 year ago
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Vejnemojnen wrote:
Gromski wrote:

Does anyone know why 105 has a number and not a name, like the other gruppos?

 

well, ultegra used to be called "600", and formerly tiagra was known as "rx-100" (A550), and even sora had a sexier name under "rsx" (A410)

 

it is classical, back from the mid-eighties, when shim introduced the 105 lineage.  1 

 

btw, my very favourite generation of 105 components is actually the 1051 (updated 1050) with dark anodized brake levers&brake bodies (kinda greenish colour)

 

https://www.google.hu/search?q=shimano+1051+green+anodized&source=lnms&t...

 

the very first with indexed shifting, concealed brake cable routing and with calipers with micro-ball bearings.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRJ0wonnxLw

Remind me to avoid you at parties! 

 

 

(only kidding, I love this stuffyes)

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velovoice [24 posts] 1 year ago
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Could you please add the range of crankarm lengths to these descriptions? Thanks!

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s_lim [218 posts] 1 year ago
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I bought a bike recently that came dressed with 105. I had all good intentions of stripping it, putting it on another bike and selling it on, then I rode with it.

It's sublime.

The shifting is just incredible. It's so light and never misses. Braking is excellent too. Cranks - I switched to 165 a few years ago, and it's fairly standard across the Shimano range, something I'm gutted Campag seems to have dropped.

Although I truly love the Chorus on my race bike, I think it'll end up getting phased out, as Shimano really does have an edge.

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lx [1 post] 6 months ago
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The Claris R2000 was released about one year ago and the 105 R7000 was recently announced. No update on them in this guide, though.