This is the story of a road.cc reader who suffered a shocking road rage incident which left him fearing for his life after a close pass driver threatened he had killed and seriously injured cyclists in the past and got away with it.
The situation was so serious the reader told us that after the confrontation — once the driver had sped off — he recorded a message telling his wife he loved her, in fear of the motorist returning to attack him.
With the footage reported to Warwickshire Police it was decided the incident would be pursued as a public order offence, not a traffic offence, and the driver was cautioned for his behaviour.
“I genuinely thought he was going to drive at me”
The story began when the road.cc reader went for a weekend spin around some local roads in Warwickshire back in February.
“This particular road is one of my favourites,” he told us. “It’s not very busy so I ride it often. I was aware that there was a vehicle behind me, but I didn’t know there were two vehicles.
“The white car overtook me and gave me a decent amount of space, as much as
can be expected on that road, that was completely fine. It was the guy after in the black car that deliberately came super close.”
“I’ve killed one of you guys before, and seriously injured another, and I got away with it” brags close pass driver. pic.twitter.com/7qeqXmWM3b
— ETA Services Ltd (@ETAservicesltd) September 27, 2022
Having shouted out to the driver during the close pass, a roadside back-and-forth ensued in which the driver said the cyclist should have moved over before making the threat: “I’ve killed one of you guys before, and seriously injured another, and I got away with it.”
“It all finished and he sped off and I genuinely thought he was going to go down the road, turn around, come back and drive at me. There’s nowhere to go on that road. All it would take is for him to aim a little bit that way and I’m toast,” he explained.
“At the very end of the original footage is me talking to the camera, speaking to my wife to say ‘if I don’t get back or don’t survive this, I love you’.
“It didn’t feel like an empty threat.”
The cyclist called 999 and later on, with the help of cycling insurer ETA Services LTD, he was able to improve the quality of the video to give Warwickshire Police the best chance of taking action, uploading it via the Operation Snap portal.
The driver was invited to speak to the police voluntarily, told officers he had changed medication which caused mood swings, and was ultimately cautioned for a public order offence. As it was not treated as a traffic offence no penalty points or fine were applied.
“I wanted him to go on a course,” the road.cc reader continued. “If he walked away with an appreciation for what it’s like to be a cyclist and see how close passes feel, then that would have been great.”
Although many will undoubtedly view the caution as lenient considering the seriousness of the footage, the road.cc reader said he was content with the outcome and had to weigh up whether it was worth going through a lengthy court process in the hope of a sterner punishment.
A caution, unlike the warning letter for a traffic offence often seen in our Near Miss of the Day series, can be used as evidence of bad character in future court appearances and shows on standard and enhanced Disclosure and Barring Services (DBS) checks, standard in most employment processes.
“If we took it through court we’d have to go through the full legal system, with a massive backlog. God knows how long it would take when it gets there, and even then you don’t know what’s going to happen,” the cyclist said.
“I was content with the outcome. Warwickshire Police were in touch regularly and my case was picked up by a sergeant who called me a couple of times to talk through the process.”
“Not acceptable”
PC Ken Bratley said: “This shocking piece of footage was brought to our attention when the cyclist submitted it to Warwickshire Police following the incident in Cathiron Lane, Rugby on 27 February 2022.
“An officer reviewed the footage and found the behaviour of this driver was not acceptable and he received a caution on 18 August 2022 for the public order offence.
“Road safety is a shared responsibility and we are asking drivers to look after our more vulnerable road users such as cyclists by leaving at least 1.5 metres when overtaking cyclists at speeds of up to 30mph, and give them more space when overtaking at higher speeds.”
Warwickshire Police encouraged riders to submit video footage of dangerous driving and close passes via the Operation Snap portal.

50 thoughts on ““I’ve killed one of you guys before”: close pass driver who left cyclist fearing for his life gets police caution”
Changed medication that
Changed medication that caused mood swings, clearly not fit to drive then. License revoked and surely a threat of violence.
alansmurphy wrote:
Yes. His doctor should be able confirm if his excuse is valid and if so his license should be removed on medical grounds. If not then it should be taken away by the courts.
LICENCE.
LICENCE.
*You should totally not
*You should totally not install Grammarly*!
You missed ‘behavior’ in
You missed ‘behavior’ in NMofTD.
swldxer wrote:
I don’t have one so don’t really know, having said that I don’t have a virginia either and I can spill that corectly!
So will the police look into
So will the police look into the previous cases he refers to? His boasts might cast them in a new light.
Sriracha wrote:
Exactly. If he has killed and seriously injured cyclists, then it was no empty threat to knock him off, and he should be charged with assault, as I understand that making someone fear that they will be attacked is considered assault. If his disgusting boasts were true, then those cases should be re-examined in the light of this latest threat.
As for his changing his medication and this making him not competent to drive, then he should be informing the DVLA and handing his licence in to them.
Yet another driver in too much of a hurry to give proper room, but then has plenty of time to stop and argue with the person they just threatened.
I’m wondering if this was sent to the local media?
I did see one of the replies
I did see one of the replies on the original Twitter post that suggested the Police had checked, and there was no record of any previous such incidents on his file. The implication being that he was talking shit just to scare the rider. Maybe he was talking shit, or maybe he has literally got away with murder in the past?
Warwickshire Police
Warwickshire Police encouraged riders to submit video footage of dangerous driving and close passes via the Operation Snap portal
So that they can decline to do anything about the dangerous driving and close passing- as in this case
I’d have hoped for a stronger
I’d have hoped for a stronger punishment…..He got off lightly.
“he had changed medication
“he had changed medication which caused mood swings, and was ultimately cautioned for a public order offence”
Do the police simply take his word for this, or does it have to be verified by his doctor. I don’t think there is any confidentiality issues as he has provided the information.
And is this defence an admission to driving while unfit due to medication
Surely a reportable medical
Surely a reportable medical condition. I don’t believe that the police do anything to cross reference these claims with the DVLA.
A caution for gloating about
A caution for gloating about killing people? Well that will get him to change his ways. Fucking entitled cunt.
Sometimes if I’m helping with
Sometimes if I’m helping with the cooking at a friend’s house I might take my favourite pair of kitchen knives with me – well wrapped up and tucked away in a bag, of course. I know that were I to pull one out and threaten somebody with one of them their status would change from legally-carried kitchenware to a weapon and I would be punished accordingly, with a lot more than a caution for a public order offence. Is there any reason the law can’t be changed so that a car stops being a legally held object and becomes a weapon if its owner decides to threaten somebody with it?
Kinda with you – however
Kinda with you – however because there are elephants everywhere and we don’t see them this won’t go anywhere. The analogy would be if you were riding around on your knife – like a majority of adults do, every day, having passed a knifing test and taken out knife insurance – and you then rode your knife towards someone after a contretemps / making threats. (For all I know that could be close to the truth depending on your saddle choice!)
And of course cars are for driving. So there’s a higher bar to clear than “he pulled a knife on me”. You could argue about why you drove your car – that you were already driving. (Even if we’d find it laughable.) I don’t think “But I was just going to offer to trim his fingernails / remove a price tag from his coat” works in the case of a knife.
Spot on. As we all know, if
Spot on. As we all know, if you want to kill someone and get a light punishment or even none at all, do it in a car. Even if it is a young child on the pavement you’ll be OK.
Rendel Harris wrote:
Does the law need to change? And if so do you have any suggestions.
This was clearly possession of an offensive weapon. If I were to suggest any changes, it would be to change the sentencing guidelines to make it clear that a car is a highly dangerous weapon, when used (including threat) as a weapon.
jh2727 wrote:
I don’t know if it would require a change in the law or just a change in guidance, but as I suggested above, it should be recognised that as soon as someone attempts to injure another person with a car, or threatens to do so, the status of their vehicle should change from legal to illegal, in just the same way that my innocently-carried kitchen knives would change their legal status if I took one out and threatened somebody with it.
Clearly a twat who can’t
Clearly a twat who can’t drive safely, likes to boast and to top it all he really doesn’t know what he’s talking about. “It’s against the law for you to hold the.. traffic up… you can’t stop the flow of traffic…You’re supposed to pull in”.
and delivered without the
and delivered without the self awareness of the position he had then stopped his car in.
The car pussy deliberately
The car pussy deliberately pulled into the verge to avoid the rider arriving directly at the driver’s window.
AKA. The driver narrowed the opportunity in receiving a little rough justice for those awful comments.
I hope this cowardly driver’s local riding community assist with his penitent rehabilitation.
Nigel Garage… That you?
Nigel Garage… That you?
Fark. I’m glad there are
Fark. I’m glad there are drivers this nice and considerate, not like the horrible ones in Australia as the person posted about the other day.
I’m confident that the coward
I’m confident that the coward in the car will tangle with the wrong rider at some point. Quick as a flash. He’ll have nowhere to go.
There’s never been a better
There’s never been a better time to be a criminal. The justice system is underfunded. Unless you commit crimes that are either, very violent, or, against very rich people – who can afford to take you to court- you’re good to go.
Pubic order offence rather
Pubic order offence rather than traffic offence was the right decision but he should be in jail. Threatening to kill.
Personally. Would’ve launched
Could’ve launched bike into the adjacent field (for safe retrieval later). Proceed to spike a tyre with bar bag tool and then progress to break his nose, skittle a few ribs and go from there (self defence). Launch his phone into Woods and ride off. Over in seconds.
Could’ve gone all “dead man’s shoes” on him with those awful comments.
His time is coming.
Fignon’s ghost wrote:
Now take a deep breath, fignon. In… and out… In… and out…
Fignon’s ghost wrote:
And then everyone clapped.
The reality is that it is easy to type something like that behind a keyboard but in real life, even if you are a violent enough person to try something like that, he is in a protective metal box capable of killing you easily and you are a fleshy bag of brittle bones. *IF* he gets out of the car you might be on an even footing but you are still trying to fight someone of completely unknown background while wearing bike shoes. You are probably coming off worse 9 times out of 10. The drivers know this and that’s why they behave the way they do, all you are suggesting is giving them the excuse of self defence to hurt you and get away with it.
No.
No.
He is going to get banged.
And yes. I’d twat him with my keyboard if I had it on me at the time. And yes. His door or window would be open.
Not all of us ride away! I hope the cnut is reading. Some of us don’t ride away.
Fignon’s ghost wrote:
Fancy joining me on my morning commute, I’ve lots of ‘friends’ I’d love you to meet 🙂
Fignon’s ghost wrote:
I’m of the same opinion.
I’m ex-military and more than capable of standing my ground and sparking a twat out and more than willing to if needed.
The most handiest of ‘bar bag
The most handiest of ‘bar bag tools’…
“It’s for punctures, officer”
What IS that?
What IS that?
Automatic centrepunch.
Automatic centrepunch.
That is an automatic centre
That is an automatic centre punch.
Great for helping “escape – via shattered auto-glass”, if one finds oneself trapped (within a car, of course).
I also believe it can aid in the deflation of some inflated rubber items that adorn those round wheely things attached at each corner of a drivey metal death cage.
Oh right, so like those
Oh right, so like those seatbelt-cutting-window-punching-escape-tools that you can buy (and that all cyclists should carry just in case they ever encounter a road traffic incident and have to help someone escape from their vehicle)?
Would have been better if the
Would have been better if the caution was conditional on the driver taking an anger management course.
An unconditional caution would be “spent” immediately and won’t show up on a Basic DBS check (a conditional caution would be “spent” after 3 months). An employer needs a valid reason to run a Standard or Enhanced DBS check – e.g. working with children or vunerable adults.
Just a caution? Only when
Just a caution? Only when will the Old Bill start charging idiots properly will these instances start to fall.
Tbf a caution is pretty
Tbf a caution is pretty serious outcome for it, remember as it says in the article it can impact employment opportunities that use DBS checks as well as foreign travel if the country you are visiting insists on a police certificate to show you’re a good citizen , as well as counting against you in future court appearances or prosecutions.
If this guy ends up being reported again for a close pass, it’s far more likely he’d then be taken to court to be dealt with, than simply sent on a course or given a warning letter.
I wouldn’t have stopped, when
I wouldn’t have stopped, when that car pulled over.
Well I’d not be stopping to
Well I’d not be stopping to have a roadside chat, but would you really want the clearly triggered driver behind you again at this point ?
Nope !
Nope !
Fair point…
Fair point…
Stop far enough behind the
Stop far enough behind the car that if he gets out and runs or walks all the way to your bike, you can sprint back to the car behind him and borrow his keys.
(No subject)
🙂
If you have changed
If you have changed medication that is making you irrational, angry and making rash angry and aggressive choices don’t fucking drive your car!
I am feeling psychopathic today, time to take my gun for a walk, hope nothing goes wrong….
Patrick9-32 wrote:
In all fairness, I sometimes get that when I haven’t eaten a Snickers… 😉
Those of us that cycle are
Those of us that cycle are not THAT surprised by this, even if it is at the far end of the scale in terms of what he claims. I’ve had drivers reverse at me, turn round in a rush and come back at me, stop dead in the middle of the road and jump out with the door open. Sometimes they run after you too. I’m not saying it happens every day, but it is not once-in-a-lifetime either.
Those that drive probably think the cyclist made it up, or exaggerated it, or did something to “deserve” that behaviour. And complain that there is a war on motorists, that cyclists want it all ways.