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England fans in Leicester chuck bike lane wands.PNG
England fans in Leicester chuck bike lane wands (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

England fans celebrate Euros win with bike lane wand javelin; Do wands make you feel safe?; Pogačar smashes Mont Ventoux KOM (Dave B’s pretty quick too); Sagan abandons; Delivery rider catches the match; Breakaway day; New kit + more on the live blog

No need to worry about football for a few days…come enjoy Thursday’s live blog with Dan Alexander instead
  • by Dan Alexander
Thu, Jul 08, 2021 08:11
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SUMMARY

  • Leicester bike lane wands take the hit as rampaging England fans celebrate semi-final win over Denmark
  • Ventoux reaction: Parties and time cuts
  • Is today the day Cav matches Merckx?
  • Stage start delayed by ten minutes due to strong winds
  • Uber Eats rider invited in to watch the game
  • Peter Sagan abandons Tour de France ahead of stage 12
  • Lotus announces Léger collaboration on new kit and concept bike
  • Tadej Pogačar smashes Mont Ventoux KOM...but it's Dave B who caught our eye
  • Cav's going to have to wait for number 34...breakaway should go all the way on stage 12 to Nîmes
  • The Countess of Wessex rides tandem bike alongside visually impaired cyclists in Bushy Park
  • Do wands make you feel safe?
  • The calmest day of the Tour de France so far
  • BBC presenter Louise Minchin joins the club
England fans in Leicester chuck bike lane wands.PNG
England fans in Leicester chuck bike lane wands (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
8 July 2021, 08:11

Leicester bike lane wands take the hit as rampaging England fans celebrate semi-final win over Denmark

this is how we celebrate in leicester pic.twitter.com/DW6zaPQTnB

— zfr. 👁️⃤ (@uwizfr) July 7, 2021

This video doing the rounds on Twitter this morning shows the drunken scenes in Leicester last night after England beat Denmark in extra-time to secure their place in the Euro 2020 final on Sunday. The unfortunate target of the revelry was one unlucky bike lane’s wands which were thrown around like a pissed-up Olympic javelin trial…

Man that’s my bike lane what the fuck https://t.co/GRS7J63r2O

— Rashid (@censoredradish) July 7, 2021

 Major tournaments must do strange things to people…yesterday on the live blog it was kids pulling wheelies photobombing a peculiar patriotic procession…today, it is booze-induced bike lane bashing…

8 July 2021, 08:11

Ventoux reaction: Parties and time cuts

Wout van Aert wins VENTOUX!!! Big party #Ventoux . @JumboVismaRoad @WoutvanAert pic.twitter.com/R6Pgiln7bs

— Daniel Heijne (@dsheijne) July 7, 2021

There was big party on Mont Ventoux yesterday evening…no wands were harmed. One of the more dramatic stories of the day that deserves a bit of attention was Søren Kragh Andersen crossing the finish with three seconds to spare before the time cut. You’d have to be one mean-spirited commissaire to chuck the Dane out if he’d arrived a few seconds later. Luke Rowe was not so lucky and is out of the race.

Cav was content with his day’s work: “We knew it was never going to be as close as Sunday, but we still had to be focused the entire day as it was really hard out there. I had my teammates with me, helping me up and down the mountains. It wasn’t easy, but I was incredibly motivated to make it and not quit. I love the Tour and I’ll keep going for as long as I can.”

Pure class from @MarkCavendish on the Mont Ventoux at the #TDF2021 today. pic.twitter.com/4yQhI3sf2W

— Deceuninck-QuickStep (@deceuninck_qst) July 7, 2021

8 July 2021, 08:11

Is today the day Cav matches Merckx?

As you can see on Headwind’s stage map, it’s going to be a bit blustery out on stage 12. Mainly a tailwind which is good news for the breakaway, but also a chance of crosswinds. Will Deceuninck-Quick-Step have the energy to chase the break after yesterday’s gruelling time cut mission? If it does come down to a sprint then it should be Cav’s first of two chances to bag number 34 before the weekend…

TdF 2021 Stage 12 profile.jpg
TdF 2021 Stage 12 profile (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
TdF 2021 Stage 12 profile.jpg
TdF 2021 Stage 12 profile (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

8 July 2021, 08:11

Stage start delayed by ten minutes due to strong winds

Thought you’d have a quiet day of Tour watching to get over last night’s football? (Evil laugh) Mwaaah ha haaaaa. Race start has been delayed by 10 minutes because of strong winds. We all know what that means…

— Orla Chennaoui (@SportsOrla) July 8, 2021

8 July 2021, 08:11

Uber Eats rider invited in to watch the game

Felt sorry for our @JustEatUK delivery guy missing out so invited him in to watch it come home pic.twitter.com/jydIzD7rAd

— Rich Wolfenden (@_Wolfenden) July 7, 2021

8 July 2021, 08:11

Peter Sagan abandons Tour de France ahead of stage 12

🚨 🇸🇰 @petosagan will not take to the start-line of the 12th stage!

🚨 🇸🇰 @petosagan ne prendra pas le départ de cette 12ème étape ! #TDF2021 pic.twitter.com/WB1TjJoHVY

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) July 8, 2021

Peter Sagan has pulled out of the Tour de France ahead of stage 12 due to knee pain. The seven-time green jersey winner has struggled to challenge for stage wins and is 123 points behind Mark Cavendish in the points classification. 

“It’s not very nice to be leaving,” Sagan said at the start today. “The injury I had after the first stage seemed to be getting better and better but then I hit the knee against the handlebars again two days ago in the sprint and it’s swollen. I can’t bend my leg. There’s nothing I can do but take some rest and get better. If you can’t move your leg, where can you go?”

It means 33 riders have now abandoned the Tour this year, the most since 2012…and we’re only just past halfway…

8 July 2021, 08:11

Lotus announces Léger collaboration on new kit and concept bike

Lotus-and-Jenson-Button-s-Leger-announce-collaboration-6
Lotus-and-Jenson-Button-s-Leger-announce-collaboration-6 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Lotus-and-Jenson-Button-s-Leger-announce-collaboration-6
Lotus-and-Jenson-Button-s-Leger-announce-collaboration-6 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Full story will be up on the site shortly but here’s a first look at one of the new kit designs that has come out of Lotus’ collab with Léger, the premium cycling clothing brand established by former F1 star Jenson Button. They’ve also got plans to make a range of bikes too…

8 July 2021, 08:11

Tadej Pogačar smashes Mont Ventoux KOM...but it's Dave B who caught our eye

Ventoux Strava
Ventoux Strava (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Ventoux Strava
Ventoux Strava (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Despite being unable to follow Jonas Vingegaard’s attack, Tadej Pogačar was still fast enough to smash the Mont Ventoux KOM by 43 seconds. Helped by the early pacing of the Ineos Grenadiers and a tailwind on the exposed upper slopes, the yellow jersey summited the 20km official segment from Bedoin in 57:16 at an average speed of 21km/h…Not bad for an eight per cent climb…

Stage winner Wout van Aert clocked the ninth fastest time on Strava with 1:00:02 at 20km/h. At the other end of the scale, a look at the grupetto’s times shows that Brit Fred Wright was the slowest man brave enough to upload their ride. The 22-year-old was 24 minutes behind Pog and interestingly only two minutes faster than a certain Dave Brailsford who took on Ventoux before the stage…Could Dave B be Ineos’ secret weapon for the third week?

Perhaps the Ineos team boss was chased up the mountain by someone in a Ineos Grenadier 4×4 tooting the cyclist horn for added motivation.

Ventoux Strava
Ventoux Strava (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Ventoux Strava
Ventoux Strava (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

Brailsford is back on Strava and uploading his rides out at the Tour. Earlier this week he revealed that he underwent heart surgery in March for a blocked artery.

Dave B Strava
Dave B Strava (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Dave B Strava
Dave B Strava (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Dave B Strava
Dave B Strava (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Dave B Strava
Dave B Strava (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

8 July 2021, 08:11

Cav's going to have to wait for number 34...breakaway should go all the way on stage 12 to Nîmes

⏱With 91km left to ride, the 13 leading riders have a 10′ buffer to the peloton! Will they hold it?

⏱ Alors qu’elle quitte la région @auvergnerhalpes pour l’@Occitanie, l’échappée creuse encore l’écart : 10′ d’avance désormais. Peut-elle aller au bout ?#TDF2021 pic.twitter.com/gUDg62L4Rp

— Tour de France™ (@LeTour) July 8, 2021

It seems Deceuninck-Quick-Step are content to have a day off after yesterday’s all out race to beat the time cut. All of the team except Julian Alaphilippe, that is. After being in the breakaway yesterday, the world champion is having another shot today and is one of 13 riders up the road.

Pick your fighter: Julian Alaphilippe, André Greipel, Edward Theuns, Imanol Erviti, Nils Politt, Stefan Küng, Stefan Bissegger, Connor Swift, Harry Sweeny, Brent Van Moer, Luka Mezgec, Sergio Henao or Edvald Boasson Hagen.

For old times’ sake I’ll go Greipel, a British win for Swift would be alright too…78km to go.

8 July 2021, 08:11

The Countess of Wessex rides tandem bike alongside visually impaired cyclists in Bushy Park

 
 
 
 
View this post on Instagram
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

A post shared by The Royal Family (@theroyalfamily)

The Countess of Wessex rode on a tandem in Bushy Park, West London, yesterday to support a charity ride for visually impaired cyclists and raise awareness for the Vision Foundation’s See My Skills report. The Countess is a patron of the charity whose report advocates better employment opportunities for blind and visually impaired people.

The royal rode the tandem bike in the pilot position while the Foundation’s Centenary Appeal Manager, Monica Smith rode as stoker. Smith told Hello! magazine, “It was really just like going out cycling with a friend, it was really lovely. Yesterday when we had a trial run, she said I was the one that was calming her down, and she said that if I had not been calm then she would not have been able to do it.”

8 July 2021, 08:11

Do wands make you feel safe?

this is how we celebrate in leicester pic.twitter.com/DW6zaPQTnB

— zfr. 👁️⃤ (@uwizfr) July 7, 2021

After last night’s video of wands being ripped out and chucked about in Leciester, some have been wondering if it’s proof that the pop-up cycle lane dividers don’t offer cyclists enough protection. After all, if they can be easily pulled out and lobbed halfway to Coventry at closing time then what’s to stop a driver ploughing through?

Brooksby also noted in the comments that some of Bristol’s wands have also mysteriously disappeared over the night of one of the biggest pub drinking evenings for years…

Anyone got any thoughts on wands? Are they better than nothing? A step in the right direction? A token gesture to safe segregated cycle lanes? Let us know…

There’s the case for installing permanent hard kerbing right there….

— PortsmouthCycleForum (@PompeyBUG) July 8, 2021

8 July 2021, 08:11

The calmest day of the Tour de France so far

🇫🇷 #TDF2021

he did it!!! pic.twitter.com/TCnY8ZU0ga

— BORA – hansgrohe (@BORAhansgrohe) July 8, 2021

Cycling’s a funny sport. Peter Sagan, Bora-Hansgrohe’s leader, left the race this morning and lo and behold the team has its first win of the race a mere five hours later. Just a coincidence I’d say, but what a strong ride by Nils Pollit to escape his breakaway companions.

Behind, Cav won the sprint from the peloton for the final two points available on the line…you can’t say he’s not putting in the effort.

8 July 2021, 08:11

BBC presenter Louise Minchin joins the club

Oh the indignity! I managed to fall off my bike at 0 miles an hour, forgot to take my foot out of the cleat. Rookie error that haven’t done for years! 🤣🤣 thankfully only my pride was hurt. 🤦‍♀️ Anyone else as silly? pic.twitter.com/TFUsCohdqT

— Louise Minchin (@louiseminchin) July 8, 2021

Been there, done that. It’s a good club to be in… 

8 July 2021, 08:11

Near Miss of the Day 608: Overtaking lorry driver forces cyclist and oncoming motorist to swerve

Near Miss of the Day 608: Overtaking lorry driver forces cyclist and oncoming motorist to swerve

Our regular series featuring close passes from around the country - today it's Northumbria

8 July 2021, 08:11

Lotus reveals new bike range is in the pipeline as partnership with Jenson Button’s Léger brand announced

Lotus reveals new bike range is in the pipeline as partnership with Jenson Button’s Léger brand announced

The new clothing collection and the Hope/Lotus British Cycling Olympic track bike are on show at this week's Goodwood Festival of Speed

8 July 2021, 08:11

Apprentice star Claude Littner reveals he almost lost leg in e-bike crash

Apprentice star Claude Littner reveals he almost lost leg in e-bike crash

Doctors initially thought they would have to amputate limb but managed to save it

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Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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  1. half_wheel79
    July 8, 2021 at 8:39 am
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    Only the English could

    Only the English could celebrate a joyous occasion by smashing up their own country ffs…

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    • markieteeee
      July 8, 2021 at 8:50 am
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      To be fair, they’re only

      To be fair, they’re only throwing wands around rather than smashing anything up.  It makes me nostalgic for the days when people set fire to cars.

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      • Pedro Nogo
        July 8, 2021 at 9:04 am
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        Ah the good old days. 

        Ah the good old days. 

        They still punch/kick police horses pretty regulalry though – good to see the “football fan” keeping traditions alive 😉 

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-53610926  

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      • half_wheel79
        July 8, 2021 at 9:58 am
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        markieteeee wrote:

        To be fair, they’re only throwing wands around rather than smashing anything up.  It makes me nostalgic for the days when people set fire to cars.

        — markieteeee

          

        Give it time, there’s still Sunday !

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    • kil0ran
      July 8, 2021 at 9:01 am
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      Whilst completely missing the

      Whilst completely missing the point that their club goalkeeper and certified legend in their eyes is one Kasper Schmeicel, the Danish national keeper.

      Fond memories of a Portsmouth vs Southampton derby, where Pompey won and smashed up their own city and attacked their own matchday police. It’s this sort of behaviour that’s a big part of why I no longer go to footie.

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    • cdamian
      July 8, 2021 at 10:28 am
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      To be fair: this happens in

      To be fair: this happens in Barcelona all the time. It also doesn’t seem to matter if they win or loose.

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    • Jetmans Dad
      July 8, 2021 at 1:31 pm
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      Definitely not only the

      Definitely not only the English …

      https://www.rt.com/sport/527630-montreal-canadiens-nhl-hockey-riots/

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  2. youngoldbloke
    July 8, 2021 at 8:49 am
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    So much for lockdown. July

    So much for lockdown. July was the month the British decided that football and fun was more important than Covid 19, so f**k it. Look forward to the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th waves.

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    • mdavidford
      July 8, 2021 at 8:29 am
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      Erm – you don’t need to – we

      Erm – you don’t need to – we’re already in it.

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        July 8, 2021 at 8:32 am
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        4th I thought.

        4th I thought.

        1st started Mar 2020, 2nd Sept 2020, we started to come down and then Kent started another Dec 2020 and now this one. 

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        • youngoldbloke
          July 8, 2021 at 8:48 am
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          4th, 5th, whatever, look

          4th, 5th, whatever, look forward to 1000s of extra cases

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    • the little onion
      July 8, 2021 at 8:46 am
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      Yep- there is a big gender

      Yep- there is a big gender disparity in the latest data. Basically, a big spike in pub-going drunk men catching covid

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    • pockstone
      July 8, 2021 at 8:55 am
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      It’s not just football

      It’s not just football induced madness. You should have seen the unmasked press of spectators at the Otley Crit. (Much better behaved in all other respects though.)

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      • GMBasix
        July 8, 2021 at 9:22 am
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        pockstone wrote:

         (Much better behaved in all other respects though.)

        — pockstone

        Right, so they didn’t go around ripping up football stadia then?

        Missed opportunity!

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    • brooksby
      July 8, 2021 at 9:36 am
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      youngoldbloke wrote:

      So much for lockdown. July was the month the British decided that football and fun was more important than Covid 19, so f**k it. Look forward to the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th waves.

      — youngoldbloke

      No – you’re missing the point.

      You see: all of those 60,000 spectators at Wembley had done lateral flow tests which were perfectly accurate, and none of them had lied about their result out of fear of missing out, and they were all probably in the same household anyway.  Or something…

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      • wycombewheeler
        July 8, 2021 at 9:50 am
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        brooksby wrote:

        So much for lockdown. July was the month the British decided that football and fun was more important than Covid 19, so f**k it. Look forward to the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th waves.

        — brooksby

        No – you’re missing the point.

        You see: all of those 60,000 spectators at Wembley had done lateral flow tests which were perfectly accurate, and none of them had lied about their result out of fear of missing out, and they were all probably in the same household anyway.  Or something…

        — youngoldbloke

        It’s not about the 60,000 in the stadium, tested and (semi)outdoors, but the 100s of thousands in pubs across the country in enclosed spaces shouting, chanting and cheering that is driving the surge.

        The view has been taken that now the vulnerable are protected fewer restrictions on peoples lives are desirable, and I think the majority of the country is behind that.

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        • Awavey
          July 8, 2021 at 10:01 am
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          Theres been no evidence pubs
          Theres been no evidence pubs are at all responsible for the surges at any stage during this whole pandemic, despite being the easy target to blame, the governments data for restricting pubs was based only on analysis of one club in South Korea I believe.

          They are likely the most safest place to be around other people given the rules/restrictions they follow.

          It will be the many millions more people mingling in each others homes that’s the primary cause of virus spread

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          • youngoldbloke
            July 8, 2021 at 10:57 am
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            Are you joking? Have you seen

            Are you joking? Have you seen the miles of footage showing last night’s ‘celebrating’

          • Awavey
            July 8, 2021 at 11:35 am
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            There are 47,000 pubs in the
            There are 47,000 pubs in the UK, ITV are claiming an audience share of 26million people, so I assume you visited all the pubs and peoples homes to be able to feel the footage you’ve seen is representative & evidence that pubs alone are responsible for a surge in Covid ?

          • wycombewheeler
            July 8, 2021 at 11:55 am
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            Awavey wrote:

            Theres been no evidence pubs are at all responsible for the surges at any stage during this whole pandemic, despite being the easy target to blame, the governments data for restricting pubs was based only on analysis of one club in South Korea I believe. They are likely the most safest place to be around other people given the rules/restrictions they follow. It will be the many millions more people mingling in each others homes that’s the primary cause of virus spread

            — Awavey

            Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, the vast majority of infections are from unknown source. Unless someone lives or works with someone who tested positive first, no one knows where they caught it. So every business can say no proof it is us, and yet it is happening somewhere and it isn’t outside on the street generally.

            My point was not about pubs in general, but specifically large groups of people watching the match together indoors which is likely to lead to raised voices which have been shown to increase viral emissions from the infected, and therefore increase spread. This tends to happen in pubs more than homes I think.

            People sitting at tables in pubs acting in a very similar manner to eating in a restaurant not a massive risk. I don’t think everyone watching the football at the pub stayed quietly sat at their table, talking with their group of 6 in indoor voices only.

            But yes any groups watching the match in each others homes are also a  factor, and far greater numbers there than in the stadium.

            The was also a significant outbreak traced to a pub where people had been watching the football. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-57678761

          • check12
            July 8, 2021 at 12:39 pm
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            Inside = bad
            outside = good

            Inside = bad

            outside = good

          • youngoldbloke
            July 8, 2021 at 2:58 pm
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            check12 wrote:

            Inside = bad

            outside = good

            — check12

            – must be OK then.

  3. Awavey
    July 8, 2021 at 9:18 am
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    And there is the reason that
    And there is the reason that bike lane near Celtics ground reported about yesterday doesnt get the wand treatment

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    • HarrogateSpa
      July 8, 2021 at 10:25 am
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      So the strategy is to give in

      So the strategy is to give in to criminals in advance, rather than providing safe bike infrastructure and using the criminal law against anyone who commits criminal damage?

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      • Awavey
        July 8, 2021 at 11:50 am
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        No the strategy is work out
        No the strategy is work out how places like London or the Netherlands deliver lots of miles of protected cycle lanes without a flappy bollard in sight, and go do that kind of stuff instead.

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        • HarrogateSpa
          July 8, 2021 at 6:57 pm
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          Alright smart-arse. If you’d

          Alright smart-arse. If you’d read the European Cyclists’ Federation Best Practice Guide, you’d know that light infrastructure can be a useful stopgap measure which is both cheap and quick to implement, and can provide a good level of safety and comfort (p27).

          The costs of this infrastructure are around 10% of more permanent physical separation.

          1) Your original point was that you have to give in to vandals, which is the wrong approach. You then moved the goalposts in your second comment.

          2) It’s very easy to be critical of cycle infrastructure that isn’t perfect, but if you were actually interested in the subject you would know that light segregation does serve a useful purpose; and transport planners should not have to anticipate the effect of football hooligans ripping up their work.

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  4. brooksby
    July 8, 2021 at 9:20 am
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    Something like that might

    Something like that might explain the eight (if I’m counting bases correctly) wands missing along Park Row, Bristol.  They were all there at 6pm last night, and all disappeared (not just tossed around, actually gone) this morning.

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  5. Hirsute
    July 8, 2021 at 11:56 am
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    Today we tackle the tricky

    Today we tackle the difficult subject of football hooliganism

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  6. wtjs
    July 8, 2021 at 12:40 pm
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    Stupid drunk football

    Stupid drunk football supporters do lots of stupid things and use either losing or winning a game as an excuse for things they should be severely fined for! In Garstang, Lancashire the morons decided to uproot a tree planted ‘in memoriam’ and meticulously watered by me for months. They are at liberty to rot in hell!

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    • Jetmans Dad
      July 8, 2021 at 1:28 pm
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      Could be worse … Canadian

      Could be worse … Canadian hockey fans have been known to set fire to things when they win the Stanley Cup. 

      Or when they lose it. 

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    • HarrogateSpa
      July 8, 2021 at 6:44 pm
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      Sorry to hear that.

      Sorry to hear that.

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  7. Owd Big 'Ead
    July 8, 2021 at 11:37 pm
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    Pfft…..

    Pfft…..

    It’s Leicester, what does anyone expect.

    They like to talk up a big rivalry with Forest, but we couldn’t care less about them, Derby are our rivals. The reality is that Leicester have to contend with Coventry and they haven’t played each other for a couple of decades now IIRC.

    One can only assume that the hard lads think chucking a few wands around is the equivalent of gettiing “a result” at Notts County. All talk, no action.

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  8. Pyro Tim
    July 9, 2021 at 7:56 am
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    wands stop drivers driving in

    wands stop drivers driving in cycle lanes, and stopping in them while in traffic, but offer no protection to cyclists, and don’t create a safe space for them in non stop start conditions.

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  9. OnYerBike
    July 9, 2021 at 8:12 am
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    Most of the time wands make

    Most of the time wands make me feel safer, on the grounds that your average incompetent driver is at the very least going to stay on the other side of them. They’re by no means perfect, but I do think it requires a whole other level of poor driving to ignore them. A level of poor driving that does unfortunately exist (see e.g. recent video of car mounting pavement) but is less common.

    However, they can cause problems too. They are often blocked by parked vehicles, bins etc. and the wands make it harder to move out and around the obstacle. Or if you want to turn right, you need to find a gap in the wands and a gap in the traffic.

    There is also one junction near me where the road curves round to the right but with a turning on the left going effectively straight on, and most drivers want to go that way. In the abscence of wands I would want to move out and take a primary position well before the junction to avoid left hooks, but the wands keep you tucked in to the side right up until the junction. I think they also make drivers less aware of you, as if you’re on the other side of the wand they don’t have to put any concentration into overtaking, so they just forget about you instantly. (Map link to clarify my explanation – https://goo.gl/maps/FSCJHRn1RBNjdEyk6) 

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    • brooksby
      July 9, 2021 at 10:17 am
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      Not all wands are equal, I

      Not all wands are equal, I suspect.

      The ones here in Bristol are lightweight plastic hollow cylinders, which screw (a half turn) into a base which is (AFAICS) melted onto the road surface, not bolted.

      The wands can easily come out if hit by a motor vehicle, punched by a passing drunk (I’ve seen it!), or if its particularly windy weather.

      I personally wish that the council would work on the assumption that motorists are skilled enough to not hit them, and as a consequence have the confidence to put more more rigid and fixed ones in place.

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Gm_Crop 6 hours ago

I'll counter that by saying the Bryton 750se I have drives me nuts at times. Inconsistantly picks up on routes created on Komoot and the app re-syncs every few seconds when trying to set up the device and sends me back to the home screen. The most infuriating one is that I turned live track on. Once. It now won't turn off and repeatedly flags up the live track is starting, and then disconnecting every few seconds whilst riding. I haven't timed it but it wouldn't suprise me if 10-20% of the time the the screen is covered with an error message. That's been about 6 weeks now. Other than that it's great :/

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Rendel Harris 8 hours ago

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chrisonabike 8 hours ago

Your correction is accurate - it's almost always been "the (lack of) thought that (doesn't) count". "Massive" - less than a billion a year spent on active travel (trying to catch up / building a network across the entire country) Not massive - 6 billion every year (2026-2030) spent on road *maintenance* of existing "already built, goes everywhere, very convenient" road network for inactive travel Ultimately the reason "cycle infra" is *needed* is those unbelievably colossal amounts spent every year (and for more than a century now) on making mass motoring not just viable but apparently the "best choice" for most journeys. As the Dutch and others have shown, the majority of people *are* prepared to cycle and even mix with very light, slow local motor traffic *if* cycling is also made safe and convenient for the whole of their journey (including secure parking at both ends). (The history of the financial drivers of the current situation are a complex topic but note that while people complain about "crumbling roads" and underfunded motor infra - with some reason - by us continuing the fuel duty escalator freeze (for example) we're actually helping motorists pay *even less* for that activity / subsidising more of the cost of driving than ever.)

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belugabob 8 hours ago

yes, but people will still object - which was my point.

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Astralstroll 11 hours ago

So ' Priority of Road Users' and 1.5 metre clearance at 30mph has been been reduced to 'sharing'? NCN route 2 here in South Hams is an absolute scream with white vans, tractors and total idiots who refuse,or are totally incapable,to reverse on high Devon banked lanes ...means you have to get off and pedal back to a passing place....could be at that all day...so I don't bother...

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Mr Anderson 12 hours ago

@MaxiMinimalist Agreed. The big problem I see now is today's parents grew up being driven to their schools, and therefore, see private motor vehicles as the only viable form of transport. The vast majority of UK infant and primary schools have a catchment area that is within easy walking distance from home to school. Yet, the traffic caused by pupils being driven to/from school is astonishing. Banishing the "School Run" should be a priority for all schools.

in: “No war on motorists”: Dividing cyclists and drivers “a complete waste of time”, insists transport chief – as government pushes for 60% of children to cycle or walk to school with new £4.5bn active travel strategy
MaxiMinimalist 12 hours ago

When I was a kid (that was during the previous millenium when phones were connected to a plug in the wall), I rode my bicycle to school, music academy, sport grounds, parties even during the winter. The government didn't have to spend, correct that, didn't have to think of spending massive amounts of money to build cycling specific infrastructures. Over the past 3 or 4 decades, cars have grown bigger, taller, safer (for their drivers) and faster. Meanwhile, motorists have become abusive, aggressive, hypersensitive to people moving on two wheels, aka cyclists. Spending billions upon billions on new infrastructure won't address the crux of the matter. Sadly.

in: “No war on motorists”: Dividing cyclists and drivers “a complete waste of time”, insists transport chief – as government pushes for 60% of children to cycle or walk to school with new £4.5bn active travel strategy

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