Clip of Jeremy Clarkson berating pro cyclist for riding in lockdown surfaces; ‘Road tax’ debacle; Reaction to ‘unpuncturable’ inner tube; Pogacar sandwiches; Tacks discovered on London ‘cycling bottleneck’; The dog ate my GPS + more on the live blog
SUMMARY
Prendas receive "unprecedented" volume of orders following announcement retro specialists will stop selling jerseys
In our full story yesterday, we reported that Prendas’ founder Andy Storey has announced the business will be greatly scaled back due to the impact of Brexit on the business – the company will only sell cycling caps and some accessories going forward.
Since the announcement, Prendas says it is working through an unprecedented volume of orders as retro cycling fans scramble to get hold of their favourite replica jerseys. If you want to see what’s left, the Prendas Ciclismo website is here.
The dog ate my GPS
That’s the situation road.cc Brad was faced with before heading out for a ride yesterday evening, leaving him computer-less. Irritating as this was, Brad says it’s difficult to be too angry at the culprit…
If you have a dog, has it ever chewed up an expensive cycling accessory and can you beat this? Let us know in the comments as always.
"Farmers in September cutting hedges be like..... hold my beer": reaction round-up to Tubolito's 'unpuncturable' inner tube claim
Tubolito, who previously made specialist inner tubes with a focus on weight saving, has launched what it claims is an ‘unpuncturable’ inner tube, with a one year warranty just in case you don’t believe it. Priced at £22.99 each, they’re only suitable for tyres between 30mm-50mm in width and fit 700c wheels.
Still, plenty of our readers on the site and across social media are having a hard time believing that an inner tube can be completely indestructible.
Velophaart_95 commented: “I’d like to know where they tested them….. it seems far too good to be true. However, I may be tempted to buy a pair later in the year.”
Bruce Laidlaw appeared to be concerned about the business model, adding: “Great idea if you are in the business of making and selling inner tubes! What happens once we all own one (or two) = no sales & no business!”
Not forgetting some inner tube-related puns, Declan Mcgee observed: “I think they are just blowing it out of all proportion”, while Matt Attonic says: “You forgot to mention the inflated price.”
What do you reckon? Of course road.cc will be testing as soon as we can get our hands on some, so watch out for a full review soon. Well, perhaps in a few months and a few rides through some thorny country lanes to really put those claims to the test…
Slovenians can now eat Tadej Pogacar sandwiches
Official Pogačar sandwiches now available in Slovenia pic.twitter.com/dojGtlwJLk
— the Inner Ring (@inrng) June 15, 2021
The 22-year-old is obviously a hero in his homeland after that Tour de France victory last year… and now if his fellow Slovenians want to grab a quick lunch on the go, they can stare at a very quick cyclist before tucking into their tasty sub rolls.
There appears to be turkey, ham and cheese options, and according to our translations the text on photo number two says something along the lines of: “Now Pogacar can overcome hunger.”
Any Slovenian natives able to translate, and confirm or deny if these are tasty? For the rest of us who won’t get to see Pogacar on our sandwich packaging, we’ll definitely be seeing him on the 26th June when he will begin the defence of his Tour de France yellow jersey.
The Wahoo Clagr?
Every now and then, a solid gold archive excerpt from Viz – self-proclaimed as ‘Britain’s third or fourth funniest magazine. Possibly fifth’ – does the rounds… and when it’s cycling-related we’re particularly interested, of course.
This stationary bike is for “when wiping simply isn’t enough’, allowing the rider to get a workout while giving their behind a more thorough clean than traditional methods. Some folks on the Zwift Riders Facebook group think it’s a little reminiscent of the Wahoo Kickr Bike, with name suggestions including the Wahoo CLAGR and the Wahoo SHITR.
Another couldn’t help but norice some flaws with the workings of the contraption, noting: “I’m most bothered by the fact that the back wheel is somehow spinning the wrong way… It doesn’t appear to be a fixie, and appears to have a derailleur… so it should be flinging those winnits and dangleberries at his feet.”
Thames Valley Police appeal for witnesses after cyclist hit by van driver dies
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Police say that the incident occurred at 8.15pm on 13th June on a dual carriageway section of the A4130 between Lower Assendon and Bix, near Henley-on-Thames. Both the cyclist and van driver were travelling westbound, and following the collision the cyclist, a 45-year-old male, was pronounced dead at the scene.
The van driver, a 57-year-old man from Wallingford, was arrested on suspicion of causing death by careless or inconsiderate driving and driving whilst unfit through drugs, and has since been released under investigation.
Investigating officer PC Julia Stroud of the Serious Collision Investigation Unit said: “First and foremost, our thoughts are with the family and friends of the man who has very sadly died.
“I am appealing for any witnesses to this collision, or who saw the van or cyclist before or at the time of the collision to please get in touch.
“I am especially keen to hear from anybody who has dash-cam footage to please check this and contact police if it has captured anything that can assist this investigation.
“You can do so by making a report online or by calling the 24-hour non-emergency number 101, quoting reference number 43210259113.
“For 100% anonymity, you can also call the independent charity Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.”
Froome confirmed for Tour de France
Israel Start-Up Nation has confirmed the four-time champ will go as the team’s road captain, supporting Michael Woods as the team leader.
Tacks found on 'cycling bottleneck' in London's Hammersmith
As if it’s not already hard enough to do your commute on a bike, in my neighbourhood we now have this: https://t.co/2gGyzThZVP
— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) June 15, 2021
Leo Murray discovered the pins on what is described as a ‘narrow corridor’ next to the A4, with some suggesting that the act is a warped protest against the narrow width of the pavement that is meant to be shared by pedestrians and cyclists.
Mr Murray added: “While I was picking them up I was passed by a flower delivery cargo cyclist, mum and small kids in bucket bike, dad and larger kids on bikes and a disabled cyclist on a trike, all funnelled through this busy narrow corridor where this kind of sabotage is easy.”
Another said: “Imagine hating cyclists so much you can’t remember that dogs exist.”
Supercar problems: when there's nowhere sensible to rack your bike
With no space inside the Lamborghini and a soft top roof, it looks like this supercar owner had no choice but to rack their mountain bike on the car’s windscreen… well I suppose the other choice would be to avoid being stupid and not do this, but it is what it is.
A safer option would have been to combine the two by purchasing one of these Cervelo x Lamborghini R5 road bikes. We’re sure the culprit wouldn’t have any problems affording the £18,468 price tag, unless the impending legal troubles clear their account…
Derbyshire Police slammed for focussing on cyclists' helmets in tweet about collision
Hatton. Car vs pedal cycle collision. Car driver emerging from row of parked vehicles hits pedal cyclist riding towards her. Despite the low speed check out the damage to the windscreen. Fortunately cyclist was wearing a helmet. We advise cyclists always wear helmets. #RoadSafety pic.twitter.com/YBLRkNQ2Jr
— Derbyshire Roads Policing Unit (@DerbyshireRPU) June 15, 2021
More from Derbyshire, this time it’s the county’s Road Policing Unit that has attracted a lot of criticism for the post above about a collision between a driver and a cyclist.
One said: “What? That’s your take? How about ‘drivers, please double check for vulnerable road users, and drive with care’”, while another added: “It would be more useful to know what action was taken against the driver for their selfish and reckless behaviour than blame the innocent party. Expected better of a police RPU, very disappointed.”
Not everyone thought the tweet was problematic, with one saying: “It prevented more injury than necessary for the type of collision, glass embedded in the cyclists head, cuts and bleeding etc…… which is what they are designed for so yes they should recommend wearing a helmet.”
In its defence, Derbyshire Roads Policing Unit added: “It goes without saying that drivers must ensure their path is clear before proceeding. That’s the law and we are dealing with the driver as such. But this is a road safety tweet highlighting how helmets can prevent a serious injury should a cyclist be involved in a crash.
“The cyclist suffered a minor injury. His helmet will require replacement as it took the impact.”
Clip of Jeremy Clarkson filming new show in lockdown shows him berating cyclist for making non-essential journey... who happens to ride for Trek-Segafredo
— Charlie QUARTERMAN (@quartermanc) June 14, 2021
Remember that time that began in March 2020, and then again a bit more between roughly January-March of this year when some people thought recreational cycling was against the lockdown rules? Well it turns out that the motoring journalist and notable morality specialist Jeremy Clarkson was one of them, moaning that the cyclist in this clip – filmed in the Cotswolds during lockdown for the new Amazon Prime series ‘Clarkson’s Farm’ – was making a non-essential journey:
“Everyone’s told to stay at home unless their journey’s essential. That doesn’t apply to cyclists, obviously!”, says Clarkson.
Even if Clarkson was correct, unfortunately for him the man riding past happened to be Charlie Quarterman, a professional cyclist from Oxford who rides for Trek-Segafredo. One follower added: “…not sure what’s more awkward, him owning himself while being a smart-arse as per or the fact he’s pretty much in cardiac arrest putting up a small sign.”
The eight-episode first series of Clarkson’s Farm sees Clarkson trying to run a 1000 acre farm, hitting various hurdles along the way. Reviews have been mixed so far…
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Laudable effort. Will a full review of the bike be following?
By their very nature the dockless bike schemes will result in bikes being parked in stupid places. The user has little incentive to find the correct place to park it. More so if they are tourists with a cruise liner to catch and only 3 hours to explore. So, if the operation can't be made to fit within the councils required operating method, then it should be removed. I'm pretty sure another operator will come in and propose a system acceptable to the council if they believe they can make money. I strongly suspect that the current operators can only make money by tacitly allowing bikes to be left where the tourist money wants to leave them, so time to rethink the financial model me thinks!
@bikercub "If they are good enough to be supporting the Groupama-FDJ United World TourCycling team, we should be looking at them as a contender." No, that only means that they paid enough to become a sponsor. Let's put the "pros use better stuff" myth to sleep, finally. And by the way, the trickiest part of a GPS computer is not data collection - that can be done by absolutely all of them. The hard part is the general user interface and turn-by-turn navigation, none of which really matters for a pro cyclist - and that brings us back to why any GPS computer could be good enough for just about any pro cyclist.
@mdavidford Absolutely, I am assuming that the OP means those lanes where it's so tight it's actually impossible for a cyclist to get through if there is a large vehicle, obviously if they can squeeze by each other nobody needs to go back.
You are quite correct about uniform signage. However this seems to be a fairly atypical set up. Having experience and knowledge of it would in theory make mistakes less likely. Part of my job involved writing operating and maintenance procedures for food manufacturing machinery. I quickly learnt that people need to be given direct, simple, non-conflicting, non-ambiguous instructions. If it is possible to make mistakes, then they will be made. The best of of avoiding a mistake is to design flaws out of the system.
I do not in anyway support the Daily Telegraph's continually mad anti-cycling journalism but, it must be said, that this particular section of cycle lane on King Street in Hammersmith has been an absolute disaster ever since it re-opened. It certainly wasn't perfect for cyclists before but ever since they remodelled the cycle lane to run as a two way lane on one side of the road it has become much much more dangerous and confusing for pedestrians, drivers, motorcyclists and cyclists alike. I'm not saying that all cycling infrastructure is badly designed but, on my 12 mile commute from home in South London to work at the West end of King Street, this cycleway is where I feel most unsafe. It's not an inditement on active travel but it should be a lesson in planning because it's been closed on 5 or 6 occasions since to be remodelled to correct issues that should've been obvious before it opened. I have been using this road to get to work since long before the re-modelling and it has definitely, in my opinion, worsened not just the safety of cyclists but also the relationship between drivers and cyclists in this area.
In principle, it shouldn't matter if you're familiar with a particular junction - that's precisely why we have (relatively) uniform signage across the country (I had this from a driver recently - Him: sorry, I don't know the area. Me: but a no entry sign is the same everywhere...). But in practice in a busy environment like this, simply adding another sign saying look out for cyclists is limited help. I don't love cycling on contraflows / a two way cyclelane on a one way street for that reason. In fact there's a crossing I don't love as a pedestrian which is look right (bikes) look left (bikes) look right (cars), island, catch breath, look left (cars), look left (bikes). (Yes, you could wait for a green man, but then it's still look everywhere (Deliveroo)).
I'm not familiar with Jeremy Vine's favourite cycle lane. However I do have sympathy with drivers if they have to deal with "Look both ways for cyclists" as well as "One Way" and "No Entry" signs. Especially if the driver is not familiar with the junction.
@mitsky Alas for a second there I was awarding the motorist in the window there points for wearing hi-vis in their car, then I realised they were also wearing a motoring helmet...
While I understand it in context, I quite liked this to conclude a bike light review: "it’s a reliable set for the price, so long as you aren’t looking to ride in the dark"
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Interesting segment on GB
Interesting segment on GB News this morning, where they brought up Nick Freeman and his ideas around e-scooters. They interviewed the director of government relations of Lime E-scooters, Alan Clarke. He made it clear that Lime e-scooter riders need to have at least a provisional driving license to ride one of their scooters, and that each scooter has a clearly identifiable registration to trace back the rider.
He differentiated between the (according to him) unregulated wild west of private escooters vs the sensible and safer lease environment.
I would guess that if such schemes are adopted and regulated in the manner he was discussing that there would be spillover into calls to regulate cycling in a similar manner, especially around motorised ebikes which I don’t think help traditional cycling.
More nonsense trolling from
More nonsense trolling from Nigel.
Please can you find another forum to peddle your anti-cycling rhetoric.
Thanks.
How is that “nonsense
How is that “nonsense trolling”? I simply wrote what was discussed.
I then said that I don’t think it would help traditional cycling, as I think regulation of escooters could spill over into e-bikes.
It’s getting really tiresome that every time I post something, someone pops up and hands out some personal abuse.
Are you a re-incarnation of
Are you a re-incarnation of the forums top troll SoliquiCycling?
Your trolling has a very similar tone?
sean1 wrote:
Nah, nowhere near the quality
Captain Badger wrote:
Road.cc have published a number of articles linked to Nick Freeman and escooters, e-scooters in general and calls for regulation. This is an hot, on-topic discussion which warrants attention. Or are Road.cc trolling too every time they post an article on the subject?
Nigel Garrage wrote:
No.
Hope that helps
Surely “GBNews” has a really
Surely “GBNews” has a really good forum you could join?
I reckon you would fit in perfectly there. They will love your anti-cycling comments.
sean1 wrote:
i don’t think that’s entirely fair. I disagree with 90% of Nigels comments but in this case and occasionally at other times he makes a reasonable point.
He is not in the same trolling cave as the other idiots who eventually disappeared up their own orifices.
I’d much rather read something from Nige even if it makes my blood boil than another tedious debate about wing mirrors for instance.
Seems a reasonable point to
Seems a reasonable point to make as I’d agree theres the risk politicians in their usual way of wanting to be seen doing something come up with heavy handed legislation that ultimately impacts at the very least ebikes if not regular cyclists too, how many MPs will stand up for cycling as a separate case and not simply nod something disastrous through?
People shouldn’t blame the messenger if they dont like hearing bad news.
Indeed, it’s classic guerilla
Indeed, it’s classic guerilla PR tactics. Mr Loophole (pushing on an open door) manages to parade the idea on BBCR4, simultaneously the same idea is prosecuted from another flank, almost as if choreographed. How long before Lime et al are used to demonstrate that universal registration is an entirely reasonable and demonstrably feasible goal, for Mr Loophole to tactically withdraw his spoof “tabard” idea and graciously accept cyclist registration à-la-escooter? He only needs to show it can be done and keep it in the spotlight to have some chance of success.
Sriracha wrote:
Exactly. Nick Freeman must know that his tabard plan is onerous and unworkable from both a legal and practical perspective, but it strikes me as a “door in the face” tactic whereby he’ll suddenly pivot to a “compromise” position.
Nigel Garrage wrote:
Exactly. Nick Freeman must know that his tabard plan is onerous and unworkable from both a legal and practical perspective, but it strikes me as a “door in the face” tactic whereby he’ll suddenly pivot to a “compromise” position.— Sriracha
The frustrating thing to me is that he’s treated as anything more than an average citizen.
The frustrating thing to me
The frustrating thing to me is that he’s treated as anything more than an average citizen
He is entitled to be treated as a self-important, self-publicising shyster lawyer, as that’s what he is. I much enjoyed a link put on here to another solicitor’s website which was attacking aforementioned shyster for making a legal pig’s ear.
sean1 wrote:
I find it more helpful when people address the argument.
Young Nigel has made a great
Young Nigel has made a great many points which i utterly disagree with, but I don’t have a problem with him posting on here. He is cretainly not as trollish as some previous posters.
I also think this particular post was both interesting and useful (unlike some of his other posts).
sean1 wrote:
That sounded like a reasonable common sense point he made Sean1. If you can’t tolerate other people’s opinions then maybe the internet isn’t for you until you mature a bit more.
Why does it not surprise me
Why does it not surprise me that you were watching GB News…
brooksby wrote:
I’ve no idea, but what does this have to do with the point under discussion?
Sriracha wrote:
Why does it not surprise me that you were watching GB News…
— Sriracha I’ve no idea, but what does this have to do with the point under discussion?— brooksby
it’s a fake news farm. Basically a Fox News for Britain. It only exists to spread misinformation, hate, division for a quick buck, else a bit of influence for its owner (who wrote off the sun’s £200 million loss the other day).
appparently they are fighting the metropolitan elite who control the media…90% of which is right wing Tory supporters of course…so even that bit is built on a lie…
You’ve gleaned this
You’ve gleaned this information from their extensive previous broadcasts I presume?
Rich_cb wrote:
It looks more like an assumption from a Guardian reader who can’t tolerate other people having different opinions. This thread is littered with that, and it’s detracting from the actual article about cycle regulation.
Rich_cb wrote:
I imagine that they’ve got it from the fact that the publicly stated aim of GB News is to become a British version of Fox…
brooksby wrote:
I imagine that they’ve got it from the fact that the publicly stated aim of GB News is to become a British version of Fox…— Rich_cb
They will try to be as successful as Fox, which after all is the most popular cable news service in the world. Tbh from what I’ve seen so far they don’t have the glitz or financial firepower to pull it off, we shall see.
Andrew Neil said of comparisons to Fox: ‘That is an easy, inaccurate shorthand for what we are trying to do. In terms of format we are like Fox but we won’t be like Fox in that they come from a hard right disinformation fake news conspiracy agenda.
‘I have worked too long and hard to build up a journalistic reputation to consider going down that route.’
‘There is a strong editorial charter written into everybody’s contracts saying that if they spread fake news and conspiracy theories they will face disciplinary action’.
I only get it for the
I only get it for the articles.
The provisional driving
The provisional driving licence is required by the Government, but interestingly the registration plate is not – that’s Lime’s decision. I therefore wouldn’t be too worried about registration plates.
Your point about ebikes is valid, particularly because there are plenty which aren’t road legal (hello Deliveroo riders!).
They aren’t ebikes, they are
They aren’t ebikes, they are unregistered motorbikes, entirely separate things which people on here should be intelligent enough to not conflate.
I believe the conflation leads better informed commentors to assume trolling.
The sun has risen in the west
The sun has risen in the west; the heavens are sky-blue pink; and I find myself defending Nigel on this thread.
Not in his choice of TV viewing (except for research or TV zoo purposes), of course.
But as an observation of how critics of scooters and cyclists might argue their banal approaches, Nigel may have a point here. As I speak. Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
GMBasix wrote:
I found myself doing the same a week or so ago. Don’t worry. It’ll pass.
ebikes are part of
ebikes are part of traditional cycling.
Cycling is entirely different to motorised transport… not that a large number of drivers are intelligent enough to tell the difference.
LICENCE in the UK.
LICENCE in the UK.
The spillover is only a
The spillover is only a credible potential outcome if the eScooter controls are successful at ensuring safe and sensible use of the vehicles. A quick look outside my window leads me to conclude that it’s not the case. Many users of eScooters are clearly too young to have a provisional licence, there’s common use of pavements, multiple people on one machine etc. etc.
A more likely outcome is that eScooters will give cyclists a good name.
Let’s hope so. But I doubt
Let’s hope so. But I doubt this Nick Freeman is a fool – he’s managed to get airtime for cyclist registration on Radio 4 prime time, as it so happens at the same time as escooter registration is in the news, just as the All-Party Parliamentary Group for Cycling and Walking (APPGCW) convenes. Lucky coincidence for him?
I’ve never had a dog eat any
I’ve never had a dog eat any of my cycling gear. I have, however, had a cat leave* a nearly dead mouse in my cycling shoe, which I only discovered when I put my foot in it.
(* or, more likely, the mouse hid in the shoe to escape the cat.)
If your dog eats your GPS,
If your dog eats your GPS, does that mean you can see where he goes? ?
Sriracha wrote:
I made the mistake of feeding my GPS to Bonnie Tyler.
Now it just keeps saying “Turn around” and every now and then it falls apart.
you win….
you win….
I once borrowed Bono’s GPS.
I once borrowed Bono’s GPS. It was rubbish! The streets had no name and I still haven’t found what I’m looking for.
captain_slog wrote:
At least that’s better than getting a cheap mexican boy band GPS – it only goes in Juan Direction
I once leant a GPS to Neil
I once leant a GPS to Neil Tennant off of Pet Shop Boys. It now keeps telling me to Go West. The upside is that I always find myself in the open air and the skies are blue.
And is life peaceful there?
And is life peaceful there?
I remember that Viz “advert”
I remember that Viz “advert” about 30 years ago, nice to see it is still available. No idea of the price back then.
Wheel still seems to turn
Wheel still seems to turn backwards though.
Edit – oh, I see that’s been noted.
The friend of the world’s
The friend of the world’s greatest victims, drivers, declares himself world’s greatest victim. Where to even start.
Apparently he’s on GB News at
Apparently he’s on GB News at 1.30pm to discuss… edit he’s just been on – boring, same old rubbish. Most interesting thing was the presenter introduced him as “Nick Hillman, Manchester solicitor”.
“It’s Nick Freeman, and I’m nationwide!”
Maybe she was getting him mixed up with Richard Hillman, Coronation Street villain, who knows?
Nigel Garrage wrote:
It’s those dead eyes. The eyes of a nutter…
This tweet actually sums up
This tweet actually sums up his arrogance. The issues around registration of cyclists have been analysed and discussed before, and an informed decision was taken. Nothing has changed, other than him raising the issue again.
my puppy stole my Wahoo Bolt,
my puppy stole my Wahoo Bolt, putting just one tiny tooth on the display, producing a black line down the right. The Bolt was still usable, but Wahoo generously gave me a huge discount on a new one. They recouped this because they’d produced Generation 2 Bolt, at a higher price, by the time I got to replace it! Still good of them.
Woah woah woah woah woah –
Woah woah woah woah woah – back it up a minute? Guy is driving while unfit through drugs and kills somebody but only gets a causing death through careless driving charge? So getting high and driving isn’t actually dangerous driving? Really? Our system is FUBAR!
He won’t even get that
He won’t even get that potentially if which is why they want witnesses on his driving beforehand. We have seen people get away with no charges of careless driving on hit and runs. And, although it is more of a case of who it was, but we have also seen a drugged up driver get away with manslaughter of two pedestrians as the Police decided the accident would have happened even if he was sober.
edit: and the last incident was also TVP.
exactly, if gets a driving
exactly, if gets a driving ban longer than a year i’d be surprised. disgusting behaviour by our “justice” system.
“Cyclist killed between Lower
“Cyclist killed between Lower Assendon and Bix” so tragic for family, my friend was struck from behind by a van and killed there about 15 years ago. Low sun was blamed because obviously if you can’t see when driving you keep going at 70mph…..
The area around Lower
The area around Lower Assendeon and Bix is a wonderful part of countryside, mostly quiet roads, rolling hills.
My thoughts are with the family and friends of the poor cyclist.
Tacks on shared use paths:
Tacks on shared use paths:
“”Imagine hating cyclists so much you can’t remember that dogs exist.”
And children, and adults and any other people at all.
Very sadly alogside a local
Very sadly alogside a local shared use cycle track that allowed access points for pedestrians to several fields along the route, local youths often spread tacks at the access points with the only purpose being to hurt dogs who would be allowed to run into the fields.
“Thames Valley Police appeal
“Thames Valley Police appeal for witnesses after cyclist hit by van driver dies”
Shouldn’t this be:
“Thames Valley Police appeal for witnesses after cyclist hit by van dies”?
The van driver hit the
The van driver hit the cyclist with his van.
Jenova20 wrote:
not unless it was an autonomous vehicle
wycombewheeler wrote:
Found it strange, since the van didn’t operate on it’s own, but the van driver hitting the cyclist sounds like a punch, or assault, etc.
Jenova20 wrote:
Probably following the guidelines here: https://road.cc/content/news/road-traffic-collision-reporting-guidelines-launched-283429
Stating that the “van” hit the cyclist is misleading as it implies that no driver was responsible, but by stating “van driver” rather than “man” (or “woman”) it is implied that the vehicle is relevant to the assault.
Thanks for the clarification.
Thanks for the clarification.
Jenova20 wrote:
If I hit you with a baseball bat would you expect people to say you got hit by a baseball bat? Or you got hit by someone swinging a baseball bat?
Jenova20]
And your point?
Sorry, being flippant. However if I rode my bike into a pedestrian, the headline would be unlikely to read “pedestrian hit by push-bike”. It would probably be “Ped hit by cyclist” whether I meant to do it or not.
It is assault with a deadly
It is assault with a deadly weapon. If you’re stabbed you don’t blame the knife do you?
I can’t find s picture of
I can’t find s picture of these lime scooters with a reg no. Looking at the photos of the ones I can see it is hard to see where one would go that would be visible and safe.
A very small 3cm by 3cm
A very small 3cm by 3cm (might be oversizing it) plate above the rear light on the Birmingham ones. Useful for finding which one you have hired in a pack of 10 dumped together, not really useful for bystanders or CCTV though.
edit: actually below the light
https://www.itsinternational.com/sites/ropl-its/files/2020-09/dreamstime_s_165604327.jpg
Grossly unfair of Clarkson to
Grossly unfair of Clarkson to start his own farm when he can undercut everyone else because he doesn’t need to buy fertiliser.
eburtthebike wrote:
Truth be told.
He does talk a lot of shit.
Is it just coincidence that
Is it just coincidence that the proposal to register cyclists raises it’s head just before the release of the Cycling and Walking Investment Strategy 2 kicks off?
Must renew the tinfoil lining in my non-existent helmet.
Even that far back you were
Even that far back you were still allowed out to excercise, so Clarkson is just shouting at something he doesn’t understand.
Again.
Note that he considers
Note that he considers filming his Amazon Prime show “essential,” though.
Brexit… what a ****up!
Brexit… what a ****up!
Stunned that a clip of
Stunned that a clip of clarkson being classic clarkson happens to surface just when he has a new show to plug
Well as Will watched the show
Well as Will watched the show, saw his mate and tweeted about it, it isn’t a surprise that a show that is already out is clipped and tweeted about.
“In its defence, Derbyshire
“In its defence, Derbyshire Roads Policing Unit added: “It goes without saying that drivers must ensure their path is clear before proceeding. That’s the law and we are dealing with the driver as such. But this is a road safety tweet highlighting how helmets can prevent a serious injury should a cyclist be involved in a crash.”
OMG, where to start? OK, let’s start at the beginning
“In its defence, Derbyshire Roads Policing Unit added: “It goes without saying that drivers must ensure their path is clear before proceeding.” That’s why they didn’t say it, it goes without saying. Saying that the victims should wear armour however, that they did say, even though the driver committed a crime and they are supposed to prevent crime and arrest the perpetrators when they commit a crime, they still blame the victims.
“That’s the law and we are dealing with the driver as such.” Even though it goes without saying that, because we’d rather blame the victim, and they didn’t bother mentioning that because they’re focussed on blaming the victim and telling people to wear magic hats.
“But this is a road safety tweet highlighting how helmets can prevent a serious injury should a cyclist be involved in a crash.” No, it isn’t a road safety tweet, it is pure, unadulterated, 100% victim blaming; nothing to do with road safety whatsoever. The evidence that helmets prevent serious injury is, to say the least, questionable, but you prefer to ignore that and focus on what you think might have happened if the cyclist hadn’t been wearing a helmet. Not on what might have happened if the driver had carried out their legal obligations and actually looked where the fuck they were going.
Sorry for the length of that, and I feel better now, but it is clear that the Derbyshire Road Policing Unit is not fit for purpose, and should be immediately reassigned to directing traffic or helping old ladies across the road, duties I feel sure are within their capabilities. Well probably, anyway.
Where did they blame the
Where did they blame the victim?
Seems like a sensible reminder to wear a helmet by showing a head (or helmet) shaped major smash on a car windscreen along with a description that the cyclist only sustained a minor injury (which would have been worse if they weren’t wearing one) despite the damage.
Now if they’d have said the crash was caused by a cyclist not wearing hi-vis / not having lights / some other superflous reason I’d understand what you wrote, but on this occasion they properly attributed the cause of the crash as “Car driver emerging from row of parked vehicles hits pedal cyclist riding towards her… drivers must ensure their path is clear before proceeding. That’s the law and we are dealing with the driver as such.”.
Seems very clear and uncontroversial to me, and indeed follows the guidelines that I saw mentioned on this very site a week or so ago. Ten out of ten to Derbyshire Police.
It would have been better if
It would have been better if they had urged drivers to consider parking in the same direction as traffic so that they have better visibility before pulling out of a parking space (Rule 248 applies anyway if they park at night). This could have been a bus that hit the car, and none of the passengers would have been wearing crash helmets. Perhaps they could have advised bus passengers to wear helmets incase some pr!ck pulls out of a parking space without indicating and checking it is clear. True that the helmet protected the rider from a more serious injury, and most regular cyclists wear one even if only to keep their head warmer during winter because that’s all that it can acheive when the collision involves a vehicle moving faster than 5mph.
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Do Lamborghini not offer a tow bar option? Nice thule tow back rack would be perfect. Should be within budget for someone who can afford a Lamborghini too.