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Harrogate town centre bike lane plans
Harrogate town centre bike lane plans (Image Credit: North Yorkshire Council)

Council secures funding for £14m town centre overhaul… but fuming locals shoot down “bicycle-obsessed council” because plan includes a cycle lane; James May ‘invents’ the cargo bike + more on the live blog

It’s another chilly one out there, wrap up warm if you are heading out… or just stay nice and toasty inside with Dan Alexander and the live blog for company
  • by Dan Alexander
Thu, Nov 20, 2025 09:15
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SUMMARY

  • James May 'invents' the cargo bike
  • "With all the modern costs, it was getting harder": Leisure Lakes Bikes downsizes Cheltenham branch after 25 years in familiar town centre store
  • The classiest indoor training set-up we've ever seen: riding your steel Peugeot in a wine cellar
  • Parents and campaigners call for more school streets and action on "dangerous SUVs"
  • "It's not a good idea to put a giant white pole in the middle of a cycle lane"
  • Factor terminates bike contract with Israel-Premier Tech after year of protests, as reports suggest Scott set to sponsor rebranded team
  • Yoga and The Rest is History podcasts... Mark Cavendish's retirement routine
  • 'Israel out of the Tour' protester who disrupted Tour de France finish fined €300 as prosecutor warns "freedom of expression cannot happen at the risk of other people's safety"
  • Tony Martin joins the pro cycling run club
  • Bike from Kraftwerk's iconic Tour de France music video sells for $57,600 at auction
  • RideLondon cycling event organiser "seeking further information as a matter of priority" after company chair revealed to have seriously injured cyclist in collision
  • Do not scratch your eyes... work to begin on Irish velodrome (finally)
  • "Coming out the other side felt insane": Inside Matt Jones' scarily amazing jump between two moving trucks
  • Council secures funding for £14m town centre overhaul... but fuming locals shoot down "bicycle-obsessed council" because plan includes a cycle lane
Harrogate town centre bike lane plans
Harrogate town centre bike lane plans (Image Credit: North Yorkshire Council)
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20 November 2025, 09:15

James May 'invents' the cargo bike

20 November 2025, 09:15

"With all the modern costs, it was getting harder": Leisure Lakes Bikes downsizes Cheltenham branch after 25 years in familiar town centre store

Leisure Lakes Bikes, Cheltenham
Leisure Lakes Bikes, Cheltenham (Image Credit: Google Maps)
Leisure Lakes Bikes, Cheltenham
Leisure Lakes Bikes, Cheltenham (Image Credit: Google Maps)

Leisure Lakes Bikes’ Cheltenham store has moved, the retailer leaving its previous premises [above] where it has operated since 2000, moving inside a Go Outdoors Express nearby.

Manager Ian Davis told Gloucestershire news site Punchl!ne it’s a move to “streamline” the business and run things “a little bit leaner”.

“With all the modern costs, it was getting harder,” he explained. “We were doing good business there but the cost of running it there was increasing. We can run it at the new place a little bit leaner.

“People have an attachment to that location. I worked there before it was Leisure Lakes, in the 90s when it was Bike Tech. But we have to move with the times, unfortunately. It’s put us in a good position, moving forward. We’re here to help people out and give them what they want.”

20 November 2025, 09:15

The classiest indoor training set-up we've ever seen: riding your steel Peugeot in a wine cellar

If only Clive were over in a certain other French wine region, not the Loire Valley, then we could officially dub this a Champagne cave… I’ll get my coat…

Wine cellar winter training
Wine cellar winter training (Image Credit: Clive Humphry/Facebook/Steel is Real)
Wine cellar winter training
Wine cellar winter training (Image Credit: Clive Humphry/Facebook/Steel is Real)

[Clive Humphry]

A corker of a find in the ‘Steel is Real’ Facebook page, Clive taking winter training up a notch. How he gets any riding done is a mystery to me, but apparently the wine cave is the “perfect temperature and view” to keep the legs turning. 

10/10.

20 November 2025, 09:15

Parents and campaigners call for more school streets and action on "dangerous SUVs"

Solve the School Run protest
Solve the School Run protest (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Solve the School Run protest
Solve the School Run protest (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Parents and campaigners from Solve the School Run and Clean Cities are trying to raise awareness of the road dangers children face every day simply for trying to get to school. They’ve called for all councillors in London to commit to a ‘Safer Streets for Kids’ manifesto, including closures of streets around schools at drop off and pick up time, as well as measures to discourage driving and “dangerous SUVs”.

Research from Solve the School Run suggests on average 443 children are injured on their way to and from London schools each year, with 16 per cent of these serious or fatal injuries.

Solve the School Run protest
Solve the School Run protest (Image Credit: Solve the School Run)
Solve the School Run protest
Solve the School Run protest (Image Credit: Solve the School Run)

Solve the School Run says children “are disproportionately at risk if they walk or cycle to school”, with children walking and cycling to school in London making up 57 per cent of all school run journeys whilst making up 78 per cent of school run casualties.

“This demonstrates the need for councils to take much more action to protect children as they make their way to school, particularly given that almost all children will need to walk, for at least some of their journey,” the campaign group says.

“I screamed but by the time she realised what she’d done she had driven over the front wheel of Ben’s bike”

Ben age 4 - photo credit Family
Ben age 4 - photo credit Family (Image Credit: Solve the School Run)
Ben age 4 - photo credit Family
Ben age 4 – photo credit Family (Image Credit: Solve the School Run)

Katy Heald, a parent whose four-year-old son Ben was almost crushed by the driver of an SUV, has joined the campaign groups in asking for “action to discourage SUVs with higher parking charges” due to the vehicles’ high danger to children.

“We were at a traffic light crossing outside our local station,” Katy recalled. “The traffic was nose to tail, as it often is at the end of the school day, and an SUV had stopped just over the stop line. When the green man came on my four-year-old, Ben, went forwards on his balance bike while I followed with my toddler in the buggy. The traffic beyond the crossing shifted forward and the driver of the SUV – rather than observe the red light and green man, or even check the crossing was clear – moved with it.

“I screamed but by the time she realised what she’d done she had driven over the front wheel of Ben’s bike. The wheel and front fork of his bike were crushed, which tells you how close the wheel was to his leg. The driver had no idea that he was even there until his bike was under her car as the bonnet was so high, and we saw no evidence of the automatic braking or collision avoidance systems that car manufacturers talk about.

“Ben was distraught and so was the driver, who had her own kids in the back of the car. We need safer streets all the time, but particularly during the school run, when thousands of children are walking and cycling on the streets at the same time as thousands of cars are on the roads.”

Solve the School Run protest
Solve the School Run protest (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Solve the School Run protest
Solve the School Run protest (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

As part of the Safer Streets for Kids manifesto, councils are being asked to sign up to a commitment to:

  1. An effective school street for every school – a school street is when the road by a school is closed to traffic during the hours of school drop off and pick up, keeping children safe.

  2. Access to a cargo bike for every family – this could be through subsidies, secure bike parking options or bike share schemes. Cargo bikes are (typically) e-bikes and carry children within them.

  3. Reallocate kerb space in a child-friendly way – more double yellow lines and crossing points to improve sightlines, so children can see and be seen, along with parking tariffs to discourage SUVs and carspreading.

“We wanted to shine a light on the very real danger that children face getting to school. As parents we see and feel it every school day. We wanted to turn that experience into numbers that councils can understand, to demonstrate the need for immediate action,” said Claire McDonald, co-founder of Solve The School Run.

20 November 2025, 09:15

"It's not a good idea to put a giant white pole in the middle of a cycle lane"

Meanwhile in Auckland…

Auckland Transport (AT) admitted to Stuff the location of the sign, slap bang in the middle of a cycle path, is “far from ideal”, engineers to contact the contractor to “discuss an alternative”.

They must have been taking lessons from over here…

Crossing pole in middle of cycle lane, Salisbury (Happy Salisbury, X)
Crossing pole in middle of cycle lane, Salisbury (Happy Salisbury, X) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Crossing pole in middle of cycle lane, Salisbury (Happy Salisbury, X)
Crossing pole in middle of cycle lane, Salisbury (Happy Salisbury, X) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Cyclists slam “poor planning” as new bike lane built right into path of zebra crossing pole

20 November 2025, 09:15

Factor terminates bike contract with Israel-Premier Tech after year of protests, as reports suggest Scott set to sponsor rebranded team

2025 Tour de France Israel-Premier tech kit
2025 Tour de France Israel-Premier tech kit (Image Credit: IPT Cycling)
2025 Tour de France Israel-Premier tech kit
2025 Tour de France Israel-Premier tech kit (Image Credit: IPT Cycling)

> Factor terminates bike contract with Israel-Premier Tech after year of protests, as reports suggest Scott set to sponsor rebranded team

20 November 2025, 09:15

20 November 2025, 09:15

Yoga and The Rest is History podcasts... Mark Cavendish's retirement routine

Mark Cavendish on 2024 Tour de France Singapore Criterium podium (A.S.O./Thomas_Maheux)
Thomas_Maheux) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Mark Cavendish on 2024 Tour de France Singapore Criterium podium (A.S.O./Thomas_Maheux)
Thomas_Maheux) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

What does a retired Mark Cavendish get up to these days? Well, speaking to the Standard, Cav says it’s running, yoga and history podcasts (plus as much riding as he can get away with, of course).

The school run might be one of his new favourite times of the day, but Cav would still “ride all day, if I can, especially with friends”, although the “thought of structured training doesn’t appeal any more unless I have a specific goal”.

“I’ve taken up running and even completed a marathon recently, which helped give me a new focus,” he explained. “And I’ve started doing an online yoga class. It’s been unexpectedly meditative — for that hour, the rest of the world disappears. It took time to embrace, but now I really feel the benefits. It’s not just physical; it’s a shift in awareness too.”

Cav also explained how podcasts have become a big part of his day and he loves The Rest is History or A Short History Of when on the move, travelling to an event or out walking. “I’ve always been drawn to storytelling and learning in bite-size ways,” he said.

Can’t say I’d mind listening to podcasts and doing yoga all day. Maybe not all day… but you get what I mean.

20 November 2025, 09:15

'Israel out of the Tour' protester who disrupted Tour de France finish fined €300 as prosecutor warns "freedom of expression cannot happen at the risk of other people's safety"

Anti-Israel protester runs onto road during sprint finish, 2025 Tour de France, stage 11, Toulouse
Anti-Israel protester runs onto road during sprint finish, 2025 Tour de France, stage 11, Toulouse (Image Credit: Zac Williams/SWpix.com)
Anti-Israel protester runs onto road during sprint finish, 2025 Tour de France, stage 11, Toulouse
Anti-Israel protester runs onto road during sprint finish, 2025 Tour de France, stage 11, Toulouse (Image Credit: Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

> ‘Israel out of the Tour’ protester who disrupted Tour de France finish fined €300 as prosecutor warns “freedom of expression cannot happen at the risk of other people’s safety”

20 November 2025, 09:15

Tony Martin joins the pro cycling run club

Tony Martin is the latest pro/former pro to get his trainers on and clock an impressive time at a running event. In the case of the German it was a 1:24 half marathon.

“My first competition in four years and my first half marathon ever,” he said. “21 km in 1:24h… not bad for me, but so far from the top. It was really fun, but it was also incredibly tough and painful. Since last weekend, I have so much more respect for the performance of runners and triathletes. Next year I’ll be back to improve my time.”

 
 
 
 
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Marcel Kittel was on hand with a handy tip for next time, telling Martin: “Next time you’ll listen to hardstyle from the Netherlands instead of children’s audiobooks, and you’ll run as fast as Tom Dumoulin.”

> Former pro cyclist Tom Dumoulin clocks a blistering 1:08:42 half marathon… but grumpy runners aren’t impressed

It has been a bumper off-season for running, Mathieu van der Poel stealing the headlines with his 33-minute 10km the other week. Greg Van Avermaet clocked a 1.21:31 half marathon, although that comes with the caveat that it came at the end of a triathlon, the Belgian winning his age group at the Ironman world championship.

British rider Lewis Askey is quite quick too, running a 1:12 at the Stroud half marathon earlier in the autumn.

20 November 2025, 09:15

Bike from Kraftwerk's iconic Tour de France music video sells for $57,600 at auction

Kraftwerk bike from Tour de France video
Kraftwerk bike from Tour de France video (Image Credit: Julians auction house)
Kraftwerk bike from Tour de France video
Kraftwerk bike from Tour de France video (Image Credit: Julians auction house)

The bike ridden in Kraftwerk’s Tour de France music video exceeded all expectations at auction, selling for $57,600 (around £44,000). Julians auctioned off personal goods of Florian Schneider, one of the founding members of the band, the bike going under the hammer alongside instruments and other belongings.

Stick that in a wine cellar and I think you might even beat the steel Peugeot from this morning’s posh indoor-training post…

20 November 2025, 09:15

RideLondon cycling event organiser "seeking further information as a matter of priority" after company chair revealed to have seriously injured cyclist in collision

Terry Duddy convicted of careless drivng after hitting female cyclist while cutting corner
Terry Duddy convicted of careless drivng after hitting female cyclist while cutting corner (Image Credit: Thames Valley Police)
Terry Duddy convicted of careless drivng after hitting female cyclist while cutting corner
Terry Duddy convicted of careless drivng after hitting female cyclist while cutting corner (Image Credit: Thames Valley Police)

> RideLondon cycling event organiser “seeking further information as a matter of priority” after company chair revealed to have seriously injured cyclist in collision

20 November 2025, 09:15

Do not scratch your eyes... work to begin on Irish velodrome (finally)

Lara Gillespie, 2025 World Track Championships
Lara Gillespie, 2025 World Track Championships (Image Credit: SWpix.com)
Lara Gillespie, 2025 World Track Championships
Lara Gillespie, 2025 World Track Championships (Image Credit: SWpix.com)

Ryan’s in absolute disbelief, the days of the Irish track team having to travel to Mallorca to train in a velodrome might be coming to an end. RTE has this afternoon reported construction on a national velodrome at the Sport Ireland Campus in Abbotstown is set to begin early next year.

It will apparently cost between €50-100m, the news coming as Irish cycling enjoys something of a boom in the professional ranks. Ben Healy, of course, won a stage and wore the yellow jersey at the Tour de France this summer, while Lara Gillespie has impressed on the road too and took a historic gold at the recent Track World Championships in Chile.

The Irish government hopes to build on the success, a national velodrome hopefully helping the next generation of Irish cycling stars reach their potential.

20 November 2025, 09:15

"Coming out the other side felt insane": Inside Matt Jones' scarily amazing jump between two moving trucks

Something fun from our friends at off-road.cc to finish the day… 

The Impossible Gap - Matt Jones
The Impossible Gap - Matt Jones (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
The Impossible Gap - Matt Jones
The Impossible Gap – Matt Jones (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> “Coming out the other side felt insane”: Inside Matt Jones’ scarily amazing jump between two moving trucks

20 November 2025, 09:15

Council secures funding for £14m town centre overhaul... but fuming locals shoot down "bicycle-obsessed council" because plan includes a cycle lane

Up in Harrogate, North Yorkshire Council was pleased to announce it would be investing in the town centre having won £38m of investment from central government’s Transforming Cities Fund (TCF). Alongside other investment in Skipton and Selby, around £14.3m of that is to be used “improving Harrogate town centre [by] providing better access to public transport, and ensuring people are connected to economic and educational opportunities”. Positive news? Well, apparently not, according to residents on Facebook…

You’ve probably worked out how these sort of things go by now, but North Yorkshire Council has been accused of being “bicycle obsessed” because there’s a major new cycle lane included in the plans.

It is worth pointing out there were also some concerns about if there could be more greenery in the plans, but for many the big issue was, to quote one local, “Cycle lanes, cycle lanes, cycle lanes?!?!?”

As this funding is specifically from the TCF the council clearly has to abide by that and can’t just put the £14m towards some of the more day-to-day local authority service issues that some residents suggested would be a better destination for the money. Sorry, got distracted there, back to the fury that sight of a cycle lane causes.

“Bicycle obsessed council …. There aren’t any!” John Scott said.

“Artists impression — who’s ever seen three cyclists on Station Parade?!” Chrissy Fincham added, a comment which… some might argue is… well… perhaps the point of providing a safe, protected route so people can.

Gary Fitzsimmons commented: “Cycle lanes, cycle lanes, cycle lanes?!?!? Why not build a proper hub that links to bus and train stations together, the one that was promised over 20 years ago! The bridge across to the car park from the Victoria Centre was meant to be part of it, hence the eyesore that has been left there looking like a temporary rig! Wrong priorities!!”

“That money would be better spent lowering business rates to actually help store owners, a cycle path will do nothing,” Neal King said.

We’ll give the last ranty comment to Steve Lilley: “Have the powers that be carried out a survey to see the flow of cyclists who use that section of road. I think not because they don’t exist. I have not seen one cyclist on that section. What a complete waste of money.”

Harrogate town centre bike lane plans
Harrogate town centre bike lane plans (Image Credit: North Yorkshire Council)
Harrogate town centre bike lane plans
Harrogate town centre bike lane plans (Image Credit: North Yorkshire Council)

It’s fairly standard for discourse around these sort of town centre projects to be dominated by cycle lane complaints, even if the Harrogate scheme also includes improved traffic signals, a bus lane, new paving on pedestrian areas, and cycle parking at the station. There will also be traffic-signal improvements at junctions on the A61.

Work is set to begin in the New Year to avoid disruption over the festive period and the scheme is due be completed in autumn 2027.

“The aims of the programme are to provide more accessible, affordable and attractive greener transport options, connect people to employment and educational opportunities, and create happier and healthier communities,” the council explained.

Executive member for highways and transport, Cllr Malcolm Taylor, added: “The scheme has been in the making for around five years, with several rounds of consultation and engagement to produce the final designs. We have maintained our commitment to delivering the scheme, which will be key in promoting sustainable travel and public transport options. The town centre will become more visibly appealing, ultimately driving economic prosperity through improved access to employment and future investment.”

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  1. mdavidford
    November 20, 2025 at 9:49 am
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    Gary Fitzsimmons wrote:

    Cycle lanes, cycle lanes, cycle lanes?!?!?

    — Gary Fitzsimmons

    So far as I can see, it’s only cycle lane – singular.

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    • HarrogateSpa
      November 20, 2025 at 12:13 pm
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      Yes and it’s one-way, so

      Yes and it’s one-way, so depending on where you live you can either get to or from the station on it, but not both.

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  2. headingley
    November 20, 2025 at 10:01 am
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    (some) Harrogate residents

    (some) Harrogate residents never cease to amaze me – this plan by Harrogate BC and now North Yorkshire Council has been rumbling on for years. Some local business person seems to think that cars rule and is prepared to back, to the tune of £££, all sorts of legal challenges, most if not all have failed. Meanwhile, 15 miles south Leeds City Council is quietly getting on with builkding miles and miles of protected cyclke lanes all over the city. The new infrastructure may have it’s critics (certainly not very loud) but the public consultation results were overwhelmingly in-favour of it all !

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    • Bezzard74
      November 20, 2025 at 10:39 am
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      I’ve been happily suprised by

      I’ve been happily suprised by the quality of the cycle lanes in Leeds. 

      Navigating through the city to my friends place in Moortown is now a dream!

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    • HarrogateSpa
      November 20, 2025 at 12:01 pm
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      Leeds City Council seem to be

      Leeds City Council seem to be doing very well.

      Part of it is having in-house expertise so they can get on with things quickly, which gives less time to opponents to have multiple goes at objecting. It also saves money on consultants.

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  3. chrisonabike
    November 20, 2025 at 10:09 am
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    Quote:

    North Yorkshire Council has been accused of being “bicycle obsessed”

    Hopefully Harrogate Spa will be along to correct that “black is white” misapprehention.

    Also – while it’s shown with a quantum of separation, what we need is properly separate “cycle paths, cycle paths, cycle paths”. As mentioned on the “but red light jumping threatens pedestrians” threads one of the benefits of a bit more separation is it can help pedestrians cross the path easily * AND facilitate movement by cyclists.

    Why cycle lanes are sometimes still seen even in NL and why they’re poor “infra”:

    * Crossing the cycle path: https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2019/06/12/how-hard-is-it-to-cross-the-cycle-path/

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    • HarrogateSpa
      November 20, 2025 at 12:11 pm
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      I can confirm that North

      I can confirm that North Yorkshire Council has a very poor track record for building cycle infrastructure.

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  4. Rendel Harris
    November 20, 2025 at 10:17 am
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    Steve Lilley wrote:

    “Have the powers that be carried out a survey to see the flow of cyclists who use that section of road. I think not because they don’t exist. I have not seen one cyclist on that section. What a complete waste of money.”

    — Steve Lilley

    I know it gets used a lot but only because it’s so appropriate: I’ve never seen anybody swimming across that shark-and-crocodile-infested river, which completely proves that it would be a total waste of money to build a bridge.

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  5. GMBasix
    November 20, 2025 at 10:20 am
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    Are the antis being

    Are the antis being deliberately obtuse?

    Thickos: Why would you build cycle lanes when there aren’t any cyclists on the routes?

    Answer: Because there aren’t any cyclists on the route.

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    • Rendel Harris
      November 20, 2025 at 10:41 am
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      GMBasix wrote:

      Are the antis being deliberately obtuse?

      Thickos: Why would you build cycle lanes when there aren’t any cyclists on the routes?

      Answer: Because there aren’t any cyclists on the route.

      — GMBasix

      It’s rather like that famous piece of logic applied during World War II, isn’t it, when the planes were returning from raids with the majority of the bullet damage around the fuselage and so designers thought they should reinforce those parts until someone pointed out that those were the planes that were coming home, so the ones that weren’t coming home were the ones hit in the wings and tailplane and that was what needed reinforcing. Similarly, routes that are heavily used by cyclists are most likely to be the ones least in need of a cycle lane, and vice versa.

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    • HLaB
      November 20, 2025 at 11:38 am
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      Its a perfectly valid

      Its a perfectly valid arguement, no one uses these routes because it to aggressive to do so, so making it less aggressive won’t help; wait a minute that isn’t a valid argument 

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  6. Empty
    November 20, 2025 at 10:41 am
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    I wonder why these “bicycle
    I wonder why these “bicycle obsessed councils” never seem to think about bicycle parking at any point.

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    • MaxiMinimalist
      November 20, 2025 at 5:22 pm
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      You mean roofed and secured
      You mean roofed and secured bicycle parking?

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  7. OnYerBike
    November 20, 2025 at 11:35 am
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    This popped up on my feed

    This popped up on my feed earlier, so seemed like a good opportunity to share. Everyone driving clearly working well.

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/trafford-centre-customer-vows-never-32888975

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  8. quiff
    November 20, 2025 at 11:54 am
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    “We were at a traffic light

    “We were at a traffic light crossing outside our local station,” Katy recalled. “The traffic was nose to tail, as it often is at the end of the school day, and an SUV had stopped just over the stop line. When the green man came on my four-year-old, Ben, went forwards on his balance bike while I followed with my toddler in the buggy. The traffic beyond the crossing shifted forward and the driver of the SUV – rather than observe the red light and green man, or even check the crossing was clear – moved with it.”

    We had a similar horrifying experience on the school run, which involves crossing a four lane (20mph limit – honoured in the breach) road. Green man; started crossing. Three lanes stopped. Driver in the fourth lane went through at speed (not necessarily speeding, but not crawling traffic), missing our kid who was out ahead on a scooter by inches. And recently a driver failed to stop for me (and professed not to have seen me) on a zebra, despite oncoming traffic having stopped and me being half way across. Is it getting worse, or am I just getting older and more angry?      

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    • Backladder
      November 20, 2025 at 12:20 pm
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      quiff wrote:

      Is it getting worse, or am I just getting older and more angry?      

      — quiff

      Just admit it, its both!

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    • mctrials23
      November 20, 2025 at 1:24 pm
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      Its getting worse. Cars are

      Its getting worse. Cars are getting bigger with more energy behind them as well as the higher bonnets making them far more dangerous for pedestrians, especially children. Everyone is in a rush, people speed constantly no matter where they are or what time of day it is because shockingly, despite drivers protestations, there isn’t a war against motorists, there is in fact almost 0 enforcement of the rules and you have to be very unlucky to get caught. Oh and more and more people are distracted by their phones while they drive.  

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  9. HarrogateSpa
    November 20, 2025 at 12:09 pm
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    As background, Harrogate

    As background, Harrogate Station Gateway was supposed to be a sustainable travel scheme, but it is now largely about fancy traffic lights to get motor vehicles through the town centre as fast as possible.

    The cycle infra has been reduced to what you see in the picture – a one-way cycle track along part of Station Parade.

    Under current plans, it doesn’t take people both ways, and it abandons them on a busy dual carriageway with no further provision. If it gets built, it will need to be joined up to other facilities otherwise it will be no use.

    I suppose it’s good that road.cc covers these issues, but I do object to the ‘ragebait’ approach they take. There will always be people on social media saying ignorant anti-cycling things, but I don’t need to hear about them on a cycling website.

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  10. mctrials23
    November 20, 2025 at 12:09 pm
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    Silly parents. Don’t they

    Silly parents. Don’t they know that the path to safely getting your child to school is just to have the largest and heaviest SUV so that your little Tarquinnius is at no danger from anyone else. 

    You obviously have to embrace this lack of empathy or thought for anyone else though. Park as close to the school entrance as possible. Park over the pavement completely (you wouldn’t want to impede other cars…well…unless the choice is walking 5m or blocking the road). If you really want to embrace it, make sure that you drive like a dangerous cunt around the school as well.  

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    • mitsky
      November 20, 2025 at 3:16 pm
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      Indeed.

      Indeed.
      Rather like this genius driver doing a 700 METRE school run.
      (My estimation based on the distance between the school and where I later found the car parked on a residential street.)

      Not driving an SUV, but still the mindset to do this manouver is mental.

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  11. henryb
    November 20, 2025 at 1:04 pm
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    Cav’s retirement sounds

    Cav’s retirement sounds excellent

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  12. mitsky
    November 20, 2025 at 1:41 pm
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    “Dangerous SUVs” … indeed..

    “Dangerous SUVs” … indeed…
    Pretty much anything is dangerous if the user is an idiot or intent on causing harm.
    As seen by this school run mum driving a small car through a zebra crossing whilst a parent and child were ON it.
    https://youtu.be/gs2Vr3EF5R0

    How long untill SUVs are banned around schools during drop off and pick up times?

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    • MaxiMinimalist
      November 20, 2025 at 5:19 pm
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      SUVs shouldn’t be allowed in
      SUVs shouldn’t be allowed in urban centres. That would make for a simple rule to learn and understand.

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  13. I love my bike
    November 20, 2025 at 2:05 pm
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    “It’s not a good idea to put

    “It’s not a good idea to put a giant white pole in the middle of a cycle lane”

    Pleased to note that the linked crossing (in Salisbury) finally had the light poles relocated this autumn! However the track has now been blocked nearby by the contractor’s (Kier) site compound!

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    • the little onion
      November 20, 2025 at 2:18 pm
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      White pole? Up here in Leeds

      White pole? Up here in Leeds we have a whole bus stop in our segregated cycle lane:

      https://road.cc/content/news/229242-leeds-council-builds-bus-stop-cycle-lane-and-designates-it-shared-space

       

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    • ktache
      November 20, 2025 at 7:44 pm
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      At least it’s not standard

      At least it’s not standard British post grey! Even if they paint a small white triangle either side of said grey pole.

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  14. eburtthebike
    November 20, 2025 at 2:27 pm
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    “That money would be better

    “That money would be better spent lowering business rates to actually help store owners, a cycle path will do nothing,” Neal King said.

    Which is exactly the opposite of what actually happens, and city centres with decent facilities for cyclists and pedestrians thrive whilst those with none fail.  It’s astonishing that some people still believe the opposite, despite decades of proof.  Or perhaps he hates cyclists and adjusts his beliefs to accommodate that.

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    • momove
      November 20, 2025 at 2:52 pm
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      So basically, Neal King is
      So basically, Neal King is saying “just give me the money instead of using it for the community”.

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    • Greenwich Cycling
      November 20, 2025 at 8:42 pm
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      This type of area is exactly

      This type of area is exactly what helps businesses. A quieter more pleasant area attracts people who then spend more time and more money as proven in various places. Look at what happened when Waltham Forest redesigned their area.

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  15. Smoggysteve
    November 20, 2025 at 2:40 pm
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    If I still lived in Harrogate

    If I still lived in Harrogate, which im glad to say I never would again, I would be totally dismayed at N.Yorks council’s actions. The obviously dont live in the town since the disolution of the Harrogate council decsions are made by people in Northallerton miles away. 

    One one hand, they pander to the people living in the south. The town desperately needs a bypass road and the sensible option would be close to where the rich NIMBYs live who constanlty shout down the idea. The place is one of the worst towns for getting about, road works and temp lights everywhere, there is zero thought into the town planning elsewhere. The cycle path plans are moronic. Ive said it before on here, cycing in the area around Harrogate is brilliant. You can find nice roads in every direction. But the town itself is horrendeous. Fun Fact: There are more SUV owners per capita in Harrogate than anywhere else outside London. Narrow twisting roads with terraced houses and a poorly designed town centre make getting about a chore. Cars block streets and its very narrow and cars still pass far too close. 

    I hate Harrogate with a passion. Sure, its a tourist area, but to live there is a nightmare. Kids trying to get to school have very few options except walk or car drop off. Busses dont run from the North yet all the senior schools are in the South. 3 of them in very close proximity. If I still lived there I wouldnt feel safe letting my kids cycle to school. So a cycle path should make sense right? Wrong! Where there already exists cycle paths they are pseudo parking spaces or so badly laid out they are a total joke. A few paths and pedestrian area in the town centre is too little too late. 

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    • chrisonabike
      November 20, 2025 at 2:27 pm
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      Ah, someone who really
      Ah, someone who really appreciates the place. How does it go?

      Come, friendly bombs, and fall on Slough!
      It isn’t fit for humans now,
      …

      — Sir John Betjeman

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  16. MaxiMinimalist
    November 20, 2025 at 5:25 pm
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    Tony Martin seems to have
    Tony Martin seems to have forgotten two basic rules of cycling which also apply to running – light and aero. Next year, leave the headphones at home.

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    • andystow
      November 20, 2025 at 7:26 pm
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      Username checks out.

      Username checks out.

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chrisonabike 9 hours ago

I think if "grown up" cyclists * are quibbling about ASLs we've very much missed the road safety point anyway. (Not to mention the wider "better transport choices" picture). ASLs are poor-to-useless "cycling infra", even for their design intent. If the idea is "for less confident cyclists" then a design that requires that you re-position in front of the motor traffic - waiting to accelerate - seems unhelpful. Of course they're only designed to help when traffic is stopped, and you can reach the front in time and if vehicles aren't already occupying them. As we're noting here drivers frequently ignore them - whether that be deliberate, a lack of road craft, because they were concentrating on following the vehicle in front, or because the paint has rubbed off. * Aside: shouldn't cycling also be safe and accessible for kids? Or should they only be allowed to do this when accompanied by sufficient qualified adults? Or be limited to parks and otherwise being driven around by their carers? Perhaps there is another way...?

in: Camera cyclist Dave Sherry laughed at by GB News presenters for correctly pointing out speed limits do not apply to cyclists during 20mph ‘debate’
Ben Graham 11 hours ago

Hi Bungle, I saw you follow-up comment. I can't imaging there's a tolerance of 4 seconds on camera enforced lights, seems an odd decision - an offence is committed if a vehicle starts crossing on a red, any tolerance is discretionary. There does seem to be some odd thinking about 'advanced stop lines' where the rules relating to them are identical to a regular stop line, as explained correctly elsewhere in the Highway Code. It does seem a regular offence. Where I live it doesn't help that some of them are very faint and disappear in rain.

in: Camera cyclist Dave Sherry laughed at by GB News presenters for correctly pointing out speed limits do not apply to cyclists during 20mph ‘debate’
Rendel Harris 11 hours ago

@ktache Not sure he's totally ruled out of the worlds yet (though I think it would be best if he doesn't), normal recovery time is about eight weeks but surgery can halve that...depending on the nature of the break he could be just about fit to ride by the time of the elite men's race, but he'll have missed a lot of training. Hopefully his managers and team will persuade him to wait until Lombardia, if not just to knock it off for the rest of the year.

in: “Impressively dumb” narrow cycle lane criticised as “box ticking exercise” after repainted lane barely covers double yellow lines; Steep gravel climb awaits Vuelta peloton + more on the live blog
Rendel Harris 12 hours ago

@Bungle_52 The Met told me a couple of years ago when rejecting a submission that they needed a clear three seconds of red visible before they would consider it for an RLJ prosecution. I pointed out to them that this meant that at 30 mph a driver could see a light change to red from 40 metres away and still get through without sanction, or 55 m if they accelerated to 40 as most do. They just replied "them's our rules..."

in: Camera cyclist Dave Sherry laughed at by GB News presenters for correctly pointing out speed limits do not apply to cyclists during 20mph ‘debate’
Bungle_52 13 hours ago

@Ben Graham I have just checked the footage from my report. The driver crosses the 1st stop line 4 seconds after the light turns red. All on camera from behind the vehicle. No further action. So I assume the margin is at least 4 seconds.

in: Camera cyclist Dave Sherry laughed at by GB News presenters for correctly pointing out speed limits do not apply to cyclists during 20mph ‘debate’
chrisonabike 13 hours ago

Oh, and active travel funding per head (in England at least) is laughable compared to other places. Plus it is delivered intermittently. It's more like a Blue Peter contest...

in: “Impressively dumb” narrow cycle lane criticised as “box ticking exercise” after repainted lane barely covers double yellow lines; Steep gravel climb awaits Vuelta peloton + more on the live blog
chrisonabike 13 hours ago

Yup, I see those opportunities being missed all the time in Edinburgh. When it gets really bad, dig it all up and put it back down again how it was. Contrast with what seems to happen in NL - when things are dug up the whole thing seems to get a "let's redo this according to the current standards" treatment. They even coordinate with the utilities, so that after a refurb the street isn't immediately dug up again because of leaking pipes / we suddenly realised the new estate being planned for round the corner will want broadband etc. Pros and cons of course - you may wait longer there for changes as smaller changes may be deferred until a major redo is due. (Though in the UK case you likely wouldn't get them at all...) It seems we "can't have nice things" in the UK in part because a) we have greater motor traffic speeds/volumes spead across "streets" / within urban areas b) the funding and organisational responsibility differs. Are we in the "Sam Vimes boots" territory (being too poor to afford better products which not only save money over time but actually work)? There is long term money pressure on LAs and it seems that due to poor construction and maintenance we have to regularly pour money into (pot-)holes in the road. And it seems there's no budget to check up on or enforce adequate standards from utilities work or even private building.

in: “Impressively dumb” narrow cycle lane criticised as “box ticking exercise” after repainted lane barely covers double yellow lines; Steep gravel climb awaits Vuelta peloton + more on the live blog
ktache 14 hours ago

Shame about the world champs defence. Speedy recovery. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2026/aug/30/tadej-pogacar-vuelta-a-espana-cycling-crash-hospital-stage-nine

in: “Impressively dumb” narrow cycle lane criticised as “box ticking exercise” after repainted lane barely covers double yellow lines; Steep gravel climb awaits Vuelta peloton + more on the live blog
mdavidford 16 hours ago

I believe the accepted form for this kind of argument is "I know you are, you said you were, but what am I?".

in: Camera cyclist Dave Sherry laughed at by GB News presenters for correctly pointing out speed limits do not apply to cyclists during 20mph ‘debate’

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