A winter bike frame

Are those PDW 'guards I spy? Nice.

Your saddle looks like it's pointing downwards though?

I have just got a kinesis racelight. I absolutley love it. What a lovely bike to ride. I have upgraded from a felt f95 which was my first road bike in 2013. Was using it for commuting but the lack of mudguards was a problem especially as I am about to move and my commute is going to be about 10 miles. I also have a full carbon Verenti Insight 0.2 (rebranded Ridley) and the Kinesis is a better ride imo. Even though it is heavier it just seems so much more responsive. I got mine as a full bike from Merlin Cycles. Currently doing it at £680. The supplied mudguards were twisted when I tried to fit them so going to get them replaced.
But absolutely love the bike. I am considering selling the carbon bike to buy a frame and make up a summer bike with better components and some good wheels. Did my first decent ride on Sunday. 50 miles at average if 18.4. Fastest I have ever done 50 miles.
Also considered the Ribble but the 23mm tyres put me off.
Edit: frame size is 60cm for me. I am 6'2" and it is perfect size wise. A bit bigger than my felt which is 59cm and a bit smaller than the verenti which is a large.

I have the Ribble, with 23s on it.  I have mudguards, but as someone said, clearance is pretty tight.

This winter (am still riding it, given all the rain...) I have got on with it much better than previous years, but there's something about it that I don't quite gel with in the way I do with most of my other bikes.

I have not tried the Kinesis (I bought my Ribble before I was aware of Kinesis), but I have heard such consistently great things about them that I would probably try that next time, rather than the Ribble.

You probably won't go wrong with either, but something makes me think the Kinesis will be better!

I bought a Kinesis Racelight T2 18 months ago and have not been disappointed.  I use it for a similar commute, winter training rides and did a 4 day trip round the Westrn Isles last year with a rack and panniers added for light touring.

I like the fact it has race geometry and I can get a set-up like my best bike.

Some great deals on it avaialble.  I bought a complete build like this

http://www.winstanleysbikes.co.uk/product/74046/Kinesis_RaceLight_T2_Bik...

which is great value at £600.  Didn't think much of the tyres and the pads on the Tektro brakes need an ugrade, but these are consumables anyway.

Probikekit have some discounts on Kinesis frames at the moment too.

If I change this in the future I might go Kinesis again.  4S with discs.

Love my T2. Can throw it around like a 'faster' bike and fit decent mudguards and tyres.

Been looking at a TK3 for another build, anyone have any thoughts on that?

I've owned both over the years. In fact I had two of the Ribble's.

For the money they can't be knocked but my current T2 is on a different level and well worth the extra money. The T2 is more responsive and just an all round nicer ride - I wrote a blog a couple of years back when I bought it and although it's changed a bit since then I still love it to bits.

The one problem with the Ribble is that it's not really designed for mudguards, it'll take them but even with 23's on the clearance is very tight.

If you can afford the extra outlay for the T2 then go for it, you won't be disappointed. 

GT Grade Claris. I got one and its brilliant. Not really noticed its only got 8 gears at the back

I can only say I've had a Racelight Tk for nearly 9 years now, and it's been a fine year-round bike. The T2 is the same geometry, just a tad heavier.   Road bike geometry and clearance / mountings for proper mudguards and 25mm tyres.  It does require long drop brakes though, so you'd need to factor in buying them and selling the Tiagras.

I think the Ribble saya a max of 23mm tyres, which I think is a bit skinny for winter / commuting