Strava ruining club runs?

I'm not in a club these days, but the lads my age who still are say that:

1) The chain gang keeps splitting up due to Strava segments with club members competing against one another.
2) You can't get the Strava mob to enter a race, they aren't interested/ scared of putting in an effort over a whole course.

Personally, I'm not saying Hardcore Strava guys have no roadcraft or are shitebags....but on the hills round here, which I uploaded a few into Strava for a look....I'm in the top 60% going up the hills and in the top5% coming down.......

Years ago when I belonged to a club we'd sprint for a sign, then regroup. What's the difference, Strava segment or sign ?

Years ago when I belonged to a club we'd sprint for a sign, then regroup. What's the difference, Strava segment or sign ?

It's turned club runs into testosterone fueled cattle-markets.

I don't ride with certain groups now because they're constantly "shredding" what should be a relaxed Sunday pack, gloating about it and ruining it for those who perhaps aren't climbers and those of us (especially us birds) who might not be as strong.

I don't think this is directly due to Strava, it was always there, but it's certainly not helping.

I will LOL come race season, the Winter Wonders will burn out quick enough.

In a previous club there were a number of different groups of various capabilities. There were some times in the chaingang that it felt slow, but the invitation was there to go off the front if you felt you had it. From a selfish viewpoint it felt good, but there was no animousity as you had been pulling weight throughout the ride. I think strava is great, some will take it to extremes but its a visual rep of your own training progress.

My club/team/shop ride has a few sprint points, including a couple on climbs. They are all strava segments, but it is who wins the sprint has the bragging rights, not who is KOM on strava.

Plenty of other segments on that ride, nobody ever goes off chasing them during a group ride, those segments are ignored during the ride. Still most people's best results are from team work on those rides.

Most of the KOMs on that route are from people on that ride, who go out to and target those segments on other days. It does give you something to talk about during the ride & coffee after, as well as some training during the week

Yes this happened on a club run recently. They went off like a ferret down a rabbit hole on the first hill. I thought s*d this for a game of soldiers and went off and did my own thing. I read later on the Facebook page that someone had improved everyone of his segment times and that the ride blew apart on the hills and they arrived home in a couple of groups. Not what I joined a club to do.

All about balance i guess. This happens in our club on hills, but then we regroup at the top. We all have different needs/abilities/objectives and without compromises we'd get frustrated.