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Disabled cyclist harassed by bus driver
Twitter) (Image Credit: Harris Larrington-Spencer/Twitter)

Stagecoach apologises after disabled cyclist harassed by driver for not using cycle lane; Paris “unrecognisable” as cycling hotspot; Van Aert: Remco didn’t stick to plan at world champs; Roubaix on-bike highlights; Women’s Tour TT + more on the live blog

Your Wednesday dose of live blog action is here…Dan Alexander is in the hotseat again today
  • by Dan Alexander
Wed, Oct 06, 2021 07:34
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SUMMARY

  • Stagecoach apologises for driver's behaviour
  • Disabled cyclist harassed by bus driver for not using cycle lane
  • Velobici's new Modernist Thermal collection, including jerseys, bib shorts and baselayers
  • Paris "unrecognisable" as cycling hotspot...what one million cycle journeys per day looks like
  • Movistar switches to La Passione for 2022
  • Wout van Aert: Remco didn't stick to team plan at World Championships
  • Paris-Roubaix on-bike highlights
  • OS Maps and Cycling UK team up to advise bikepackers how to wild camp responsibly
  • 10/10
  • Women's Tour TT: Can Clara Copponi defend race lead in Atherstone?
  • Wholesome content alert...the Tractor graduates
  • Elinor Barker won Olympic silver in Tokyo while pregnant
  • Demi Vollering dominates Women's Tour time trial to likely sew up overall race win on stage three
  • MISSING: Hour Record holder's Garmin
  • Stagecoach apologises for driver's behaviour
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6 October 2021, 07:34

Stagecoach apologises for driver's behaviour

Disabled cyclist harassed by bus driver (Harris Larrington-Spencer/Twitter)
Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Disabled cyclist harassed by bus driver (Harris Larrington-Spencer/Twitter)
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Stagecoach did get back to Harrie apologising for the driver’s “completely unacceptable” behaviour. The company told her, “we all know the Highway Code and our drivers are professional bus drivers that should be well aware of where cyclists can ride. Harassing or intimidating any other road users, especially vulnerable road users such as pedestrians or cyclists, won’t be tolerated by us.” 

6 October 2021, 07:34

Disabled cyclist harassed by bus driver for not using cycle lane

Hi @StagecoachGM

I’m a disabled cyclist. AGAIN today on Oxford Rd one of your driver’s harrassed me because I wasn’t in the dedicated cycle lane.

My trike is to wide to safely use this lane & I use the road.

I stopped & explained this to your driver

1/ pic.twitter.com/d8U2ZxuZsC

— Harrie Larrington-Spencer (@tricyclemayor) October 4, 2021

Harrie Larrington-Spencer took to social media to highlight one of the many barriers that disabled people face when trying to cycle. As her trike is too wide to safely use the cycle lane on Oxford Road, Harrie rides in the road, sometimes attracting abuse from other motorists.

On Monday she detailed her second incident involving a Stagecoach bus driver where she was “harassed” for not using the bike lane. “My trike is too wide to safely use this lane and I use the road,” Harrie explained on Twitter. “I stopped and explained this to your driver. He apparently didn’t see a problem with his behaviour, didn’t think his behaviour was rude and didn’t apologise. There are already too many barriers for disabled people getting active, your drivers shouldn’t be another one.

“I’d like a written apology from both yourselves and the driver and I’d like to know what you are going to do to educate your drivers. It’s beginning to feel like targeted harassment by Stagecoach bus drivers every time I cycle anywhere.”

@tricyclemayor Hi Harrie, please could you DM us confirming the time, exact location and detailing what happened/what the driver did so that we can investigate this for you? Thanks, K.

— Stagecoach Manchester & Wigan (@StagecoachGM) October 4, 2021

 In June, Harrie shared photos of another bus after the driver had beeped the horn at her for not riding in the cycle lane…

Hi @StagecoachGM

I’m disabled and I cycle a trike. I can’t cycle safely in most segregated cycle lanes as they are too narrow.

Today this driver beeped at me for it.

All I want to do is cycle in the city without getting abuse.

Please can you have a word please? pic.twitter.com/Bnn5OCxjzR

— Harrie Larrington-Spencer (@tricyclemayor) June 23, 2021

After that incident Stagecoach said it would be reported to depot management who would conduct a full investigation and consult with the driver.

6 October 2021, 07:34

6 October 2021, 07:34

Velobici's new Modernist Thermal collection, including jerseys, bib shorts and baselayers

2021 Velobici Modernist Thermal collection
2021 Velobici Modernist Thermal collection (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2021 Velobici Modernist Thermal collection
2021 Velobici Modernist Thermal collection (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

British brand Velobici has just dropped its new Modernist Thermal collection, with men’s and women’s Thermal Jerseys (£200), Thermal Bib Shorts (£190) and Thermal Baselayers (£65) available. 

“We’ve used a soft and breathable midweight VB/Pro TI1 fabric that provides thermal regulation and four-way stretch for a perfect fit and complete comfort,” says Velobici. “The fabric is made from two knitted layers that trap air to enhance the body’s natural thermoregulation.” A DWR treatment has also been added to repel water and the close weave should keep the cold air out.

2021 Velobici Modernist Thermal collection
2021 Velobici Modernist Thermal collection (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2021 Velobici Modernist Thermal collection
2021 Velobici Modernist Thermal collection (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Velobici just received a £400,000 funding boost from the Midlands Engine Investment Fund and says it plans to use the investment to bolster its workforce and facilitate a move to a new sustainably powered factory as it works towards becoming a fully sustainable operation. 

6 October 2021, 07:34

6 October 2021, 07:34

Paris "unrecognisable" as cycling hotspot...what one million cycle journeys per day looks like

This is Paris, today. In a very short space of time, the city has built temporary infrastructure enabling 1 million daily cycle journeys. If you haven’t visited in a while, some parts are unrecognisable.

Imagine if every person cycling here decided to jump in a car instead. pic.twitter.com/L7jIHVTXWt

— Adam Tranter (@adamtranter) October 4, 2021

Videos from Paris have become a staple of the live blog as the French capital has been transformed into a cycling hotspot thanks to infrastructure first installed in response to a public transport strike two winters ago. The pandemic saw those first lanes enlarged to cope with increased demand. Now, six-in-ten users are new cyclists and, as Adam Tranter points out above, the infra enables one million daily cycle journeys. 

Since election in 2014, the city’s mayor Anne Hidalgo has invested more than €150m and aims to double the number of bike lanes.

6 October 2021, 07:34

Movistar switches to La Passione for 2022

La Passione Movistar
La Passione Movistar (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
La Passione Movistar
La Passione Movistar (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Movistar has announced it’s switching to the direct-to-consumer kit brand La Passione across both its men’s and women’s teams for 2022. The Spanish WorldTour outfit currently wear kit supplied by Alé, but the likes of Alejandro Valverde and Annemiek van Vleuten will be donning kit from a different Italian brand next season, La Passione.

Movistar has also previously ridden in Scottish clothing brand Endura, but Endura decided to end its sponsorship back in 2019, blaming the UCI for limiting technological advances in clothing. Claiming it was a “dead end”, Endura instead decided to focus on developing aerodynamic clothing for triathlons. 

6 October 2021, 07:34

Wout van Aert: Remco didn't stick to team plan at World Championships

 
 
 
 
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Wout van Aert has addressed Belgium’s tactics at the World Championships, a home race he was favourite to win. Van Aert ultimately finished 11th, meaning Jasper Stuyven was the Belgians’ best-placed rider, just off the podium in fourth. Van Aert spoke to Sporza’s podcast and questioned Remco Evenepoel’s decision to attack so early on in the race.

“It was absolutely not the tactics of the team or the national coach to use Remco so early. He himself chose to attack so early, that early was for [Yves] Lampaert or [Victor] Campenaerts. Because Remco was at the front, they were never able to carry out their task,” Van Aert explained.

“It’s important that we talk about this again. We will still be in selections together. Remco contacted me, but that was quite short. No major steps have been taken to clear it up, but that will come. Communication is important in every relationship and Remco still has to take steps in that regard.

“What happened at the World Championships will linger, but as a person you have to be forgiving. Otherwise you will make life very difficult. For me, this does not stand in the way of racing together later.”

Prior to the race, legend of the sport Eddy Merckx questioned why Evenepoel had been included if the team’s goal was to ride 100 per cent for Van Aert. One other spot of Wout news…after Roubaix he confirmed he’d be taking a long break before cyclocross season, so might be returning to action later than in previous years. His perennial rival, Mathieu van der Poel, last week said he’d be beginning his cross campaign in December.

6 October 2021, 07:34

Paris-Roubaix on-bike highlights

Crashes and mud. That just about sums up Velon’s on-bike highlights from Paris-Roubaix…

6 October 2021, 07:34

OS Maps and Cycling UK team up to advise bikepackers how to wild camp responsibly

Cycling UK and OS Maps have partnered to encourage more people to discover and enjoy the outdoors more responsibly. As part of the work they’ve made a short film about wild camping, featuring the youngest woman to cycle solo around the world, Vedangi Kulkarni.

She said: “One of the horror stories of the past year and a bit has been of how people have headed to some of this island’s most beautiful locations, spent a magical time overnight, and then just left it in a complete tip.”

The video offers advice on where to camp, how to go to the toilet responsibly and picking up rubbish to leave the countryside in a better state than you found it.

6 October 2021, 07:34

10/10

I’m not sure I could love this more if I tried! pic.twitter.com/Rui2jPfEo4

— 🖤✨Kirstie✨🖤 (@kirstie_talbot) October 5, 2021

6 October 2021, 07:34

6 October 2021, 07:34

Women's Tour TT: Can Clara Copponi defend race lead in Atherstone?

We’re underway in Atherstone! @GreenEDGEteam’s @JessicaAllen93 is the first rider off to tackle the 16.6km individual time trial course. #WomensTour #UCIWWT pic.twitter.com/kKeWUaeAYx

— AJ Bell Women’s Tour (@thewomenstour) October 6, 2021

Jessica Allen was the first rider down the ramp this lunchtime. Just under half an hour until Lizzie Deignan gets underway. French rider Clara Copponi will be last off in the race leader’s jersey, just after second place Amy Pieters. Who will be wearing blue come 2pm?

In the live blog comments yesterday, a couple of readers said they’d been out on the road for the Walsall stage. The report from the ground, just as well considering the absence of TV coverage, was that the course was made harder by the autumnal conditions and became quite selective. A nice story though, as a few riders stopped to answer questions and pose for photos with a primary school class who’d been brought out for some proper education…

6 October 2021, 07:34

Wholesome content alert...the Tractor graduates

 
 
 
 
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Tim Declercq joked “everybody knows I’m not a fast sprinter”, sharing the news of his graduation from Vrije Universiteit Brussel at 32 years of age. The Tractor presumably had a train of grateful classmates behind who he’d towed through the course…

Just two days after Roubaix, a scrubbed up Declercq wrote on Instagram: “Everybody knows I’m not a fast sprinter so it took me 30 years to complete my academic career. As my thinning hairline is hidden I could say it kept me everlasting young, but I suppose that’s only on the inside. Still a little bit proud to complete my master Physical Education and Kinesiology Training & Coaching.”

6 October 2021, 07:34

6 October 2021, 07:34

Elinor Barker won Olympic silver in Tokyo while pregnant

Casper and I are excited to announce that we are expecting our first child! We can’t believe how lucky we are and are so excited to start the next part of our lives together. pic.twitter.com/EA18pw8gWb

— Elinor Barker (@elinorbarker) October 5, 2021

Elinor Barker, who won silver as part of GB’s team pursuit squad in Tokyo, has said she was pregnant when she won her latest Olympic medal. The 27-year-old announced the news on social media…”We can’t believe how lucky we are and are so excited to start the next part of our lives together. And for the eagle-eyed among you who have done the maths… yep, I was pregnant at the Tokyo Olympics.”

6 October 2021, 07:34

Demi Vollering dominates Women's Tour time trial to likely sew up overall race win on stage three

⏱ NEW FASTEST TIME ⏱@demivollering (@teamsdworx) finishes in 23:18 – 1:04 quicker than @JossyLowden’s time for the 16.6-kilometre course! #WomensTour #UCIWWT pic.twitter.com/9qhcObzxwL

— AJ Bell Women’s Tour (@thewomenstour) October 6, 2021

What a ride by Demi Vollering. The SD Worx star won the team’s second stage in as many days, smashing the 16.6km course around Atherstone, putting more than one minute into her nearest rival. Second place was Joss Lowden off the back of her Hour Record escapees last week.

Team DSM’s Leah Kirchmann was third, and Alice Barnes fourth. Vollering’s time means she will likely win the race overall, thanks to her handsome advantage going into the final three flat stages. The Dutch rider now leads Juliette Labous by 1:09, and former race leader Clara Copponi is third at 1:19. Tomorrow, the race travels to Essex for the first of three likely sprint stages as stage four takes the riders 117.8km from Shoeburyness to Southend-on-Sea.

6 October 2021, 07:34

MISSING: Hour Record holder's Garmin

A long shot… did anyone pick up a Garmin 130 at the first right hand corner 3km in to today’s @thewomenstour ITT? @JossyLowden’s fell off 🤦🏼‍♂️ #MissingGarmin #Oops pic.twitter.com/B0ULoX03Xr

— Dan Bigham (@DanBiggles22) October 6, 2021

Hour Record holder needs better Garmin holder… 

6 October 2021, 07:34

Stagecoach apologises for driver's behaviour

Disabled cyclist harassed by bus driver (Harris Larrington-Spencer/Twitter)
Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Disabled cyclist harassed by bus driver (Harris Larrington-Spencer/Twitter)
Twitter) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Stagecoach did get back to Harrie apologising for the driver’s “completely unacceptable” behaviour. The company told her, “we all know the Highway Code and our drivers are professional bus drivers that should be well aware of where cyclists can ride. Harassing or intimidating any other road users, especially vulnerable road users such as pedestrians or cyclists, won’t be tolerated by us.” 

6 October 2021, 07:34

6 October 2021, 07:34

Tory chairman: Get off your Peloton and back to your desk

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Dan was the road.cc news editor from 2022-2026. He joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan mainly wrote news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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  1. alexuk
    October 6, 2021 at 7:58 am
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    Society is dead. Hate is

    Society is dead. Hate is everywhere. End of days.

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    • Captain Badger
      October 6, 2021 at 8:08 am
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      alexuk wrote:

      Society is dead. Hate is everywhere. End of days.

      — alexuk

      In other news, a gardener in Middle Wallop has dug up this rather cheeky pair of carrots

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      • lesterama
        October 6, 2021 at 8:16 am
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        Is that a pair or an orgy of

        Is that a pair or an orgy of carrots?

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        • Captain Badger
          October 6, 2021 at 8:28 am
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          lesterama wrote:

          Is that a pair or an orgy of carrots?

          — lesterama

          I’m not sure what the collective noun for pair would be. An orgy would need to be 3 minimum I would have thought

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          • Captain Badger
            October 6, 2021 at 10:09 am
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            Captain Badger wrote:

            ….

            I’m not sure what the collective noun for pair would be. An orgy would need to be 3 minimum I would have thought

            — Captain Badger

            Or would that be a peasome? maybe an orgy’s at least 4

          • pockstone
            October 6, 2021 at 10:46 am
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            A ‘menage a pois’?

            A ‘menage a pois’?

      • mdavidford
        October 6, 2021 at 8:45 am
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        Are those participants from

        Are those participants from the World Naked Wheelbarrow Ride?

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      • Secret_squirrel
        October 6, 2021 at 10:41 am
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        ..and presumably orphaned

        ..and presumably orphaned some little baby carrots… shame on him.

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    • IanMK
      October 6, 2021 at 8:54 am
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      I think I might be repeating

      I think I might be repeating myself but we need to start measuring wellbeing / happiness as a measure of progress instead (or in combination with) GDP. The problem has been that GDP was adopted universally in the 1950s (yes there were alternatives). There has never been a standard wellbeing Index although I believe the Canadian system is well regarded. 

      Canadian Index of Wellbeing – Wikipedia

      It’s funny that the Tories have been discussing what “levelling up” means and it’s all economic. No mention of equality, life expectancy, wellbeing etc….

      I guess for many there’s an assumption that these will follow economic levelling up but I’m not sure where the evidence for this is.

       

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      • Captain Badger
        October 6, 2021 at 9:08 am
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        IanMK wrote:

        I think I might be repeating myself but we need to start measuring wellbeing / happiness as a measure of progress instead (or in combination with) GDP. The problem has been that GDP was adopted universally in the 1950s (yes there were alternatives). There has never been a standard wellbeing Index although I believe the Canadian system is well regarded. 

        Canadian Index of Wellbeing – Wikipedia

        It’s funny that the Tories have been discussing what “levelling up” means and it’s all economic. No mention of equality, life expectancy, wellbeing etc….

        I guess for many there’s an assumption that these will follow economic levelling up but I’m not sure where the evidence for this is.

         

        — IanMK

        Absolutely. there’s no point in a state being awash with money if people are miserable, especially if that wealth is not equitably distributed. 

        I read a stat the other day that there are more food banks in teh UK than Mc Donalds. Go Britain….

         

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        • hawkinspeter
          October 6, 2021 at 9:35 am
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          Captain Badger wrote:

          I read a stat the other day that there are more food banks in teh UK than Mc Donalds.

          — Captain Badger

          Well, I doubt that there’s much call for food banks in McDonalds

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          • Captain Badger
            October 6, 2021 at 9:48 am
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            hawkinspeter wrote:

            I read a stat the other day that there are more food banks in teh UK than Mc Donalds.

            — hawkinspeter

            Well, I doubt that there’s much call for food banks in McDonalds

            — Captain Badger

            Y’know, as soon as I posted that I thought ” If I read that what would my first comment be?…”

          • chrisonabike
            October 6, 2021 at 10:02 am
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            They were introduced after

            They were introduced after the start of the pandemic, when McDonalds would only serve you if you drove up in a car.

      • Awavey
        October 6, 2021 at 12:29 pm
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        the UK government have been

        the UK government have been measuring wellbeing for the past decade, actually brought it as an official stats collection before Canada did, and produces regular updates on it, probably due another update soon, https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/wellbeing

        strangely it was criticised as a waste of public money when it was brought it as a meaningless “fun index”, as the talking heads at the time told us all anyone is really interested in is GDP, because  as the famous Clinton advisor quote “its the economy, stupid”,  and it tends not to get reported on much by the media now.

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        • IanMK
          October 6, 2021 at 12:51 pm
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          Most countries do have a

          Most countries do have a wellbeing index. The trouble is that, unlike GDP, there’s no standardisation so we can’t really see how we compare to other countries. People, apparently, love league tables. I think if we knew quantitatively that we were unhappier than Germany then there would be a lot more interest. 

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      • andystow
        October 6, 2021 at 1:58 pm
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        IanMK wrote:

        I think I might be repeating myself but we need to start measuring wellbeing / happiness as a measure of progress instead (or in combination with) GDP.

        — IanMK

        I suspect that any wellbeing/happiness index could be corrupted like GDP, per Campbell’s Law or Goodhart’s Law.

        Need more wellbeing this year? NHS can be told to prescribe more Soma!

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        • Captain Badger
          October 6, 2021 at 4:01 pm
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          andystow wrote:

           

          …I suspect that any wellbeing/happiness index could be corrupted like GDP, per Campbell’s Law or Goodhart’s Law.

          …

          — andystow

          And is it Wellness per capita, or just sum total Wellness within a country’s borders….

           

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  2. hawkinspeter
    October 6, 2021 at 8:14 am
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    It’s amazing the difference

    It’s amazing the difference in people when you put them in the driver’s seat. I bet those same bus drivers wouldn’t bat an eye if they saw someone cycling a trike when they were walking around. It shouldn’t make any difference at all if someone is disabled or not if they want to ride a trike or bike and not use a bike lane – the idea is to make bike lanes attractive enough that people want and can use them and there’s always going to be exceptions. There’s just no excuse at all for bullying other road users.

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    • Simon E
      October 6, 2021 at 10:17 am
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      hawkinspeter wrote:

      There’s just no excuse at all for bullying other road users.

      — hawkinspeter

      Absolutely.

      I wonder if that aggressive piece of sh*t would like it if the roles were reversed. Stagecoach needs to sort their act out immediately.

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    • kil0ran
      October 6, 2021 at 10:48 am
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      The fault probably lies with

      The fault probably lies with Stagecoach. They’ll be monitoring drivers on timeliness no doubt and so drivers feel under pressure to meet those targets. No excuse of course.

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  3. AlsoSomniloquism
    October 6, 2021 at 9:08 am
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    I’m not disabled and have

    I’m not disabled and have been harrassed by a bus driver in similar circumstances where I was using the bus lane (shared use signs are still up). Seems bus drivers are the same as most with “you should be in your lane”. Maybe all buses should only ever use bus lanes only?

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    • brooksby
      October 6, 2021 at 9:36 am
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      I’ve always felt its not a

      I’ve always felt its not a great idea when councils mark ‘dedicated’ bus lanes up as being shared with cyclists. 

      Get the cyclists out of the way of the cars but force them to ‘share’ with speeding double decker buses trying to be kept to an unrealistic timetable…  What could possibly go wrong? 

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      • GMBasix
        October 6, 2021 at 9:55 am
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        I hear this complaint a lot,

        I hear this complaint a lot, however my experience of cycling a busy bus corridor, variably with shared bus/cycle/taxi lanes and unseparated two-lane traffic, was that I experienced an improvement in behaviour from buses in the last decade or so.  In that time, CPC was introduced (2008), bus drivers were required to complete regular training, and some of that was (freely available) cycle awareness.  Buses also began to sprout cameras, incident recorders and wireless transmission, so in many instances, the fleet manager could have investigated an incident before the driver was back at the depot.

        There will always be some idiots in the fleet – we’ve got some examples here – but I am very satisfied that cyclists and buses can mix in relative safety.  Ideally, full segregation, but if there’s a compromise, I’ll mix with the buses rather than the idiots who think their personal travelling embassy enjoys immunity from other people.

        When cyclists and buses do mix, it takes some give and take on both sides.  I can tell a bus driver appreciates that I’ve gone some way to anticipate his needs, and a wave back when [s]he gives me a wide berth or hangs back builds the rapport.

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        • stonojnr
          October 6, 2021 at 11:52 am
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          The bus lane I use most
          The bus lane I use most frequently isn’t a problem as ironically the buses rarely use it as it merges back with other lanes at a roundabout and it clearly causes them issues with other vehicles not wanting to yield to them.

          But on the road itself, different picture, full of close passes, left hooks and must get in fronts, just like this example, for context that strip of what looks like dirt on the left is actually a pavement.

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      • Captain Badger
        October 6, 2021 at 10:33 am
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        brooksby wrote:

        I’ve always felt its not a great idea when councils mark ‘dedicated’ bus lanes up as being shared with cyclists. 

        Get the cyclists out of the way of the cars but force them to ‘share’ with speeding double decker buses trying to be kept to an unrealistic timetable…  What could possibly go wrong? 

        — brooksby

        I stated on another thread that general incidents on the road don’t fall under HASAWA. 

        However, when the driver is doing so whilst in the line of their work, they most certainly should, and could, be prosecuted by the HSE.

        Edit: It would be interesting to know whether these near-misses have been logged in teh accident book….

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      • ChrisB200SX
        October 6, 2021 at 3:09 pm
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        brooksby wrote:

        I’ve always felt its not a great idea when councils mark ‘dedicated’ bus lanes up as being shared with cyclists. 

        Get the cyclists out of the way of the cars but force them to ‘share’ with speeding double decker buses trying to be kept to an unrealistic timetable…  What could possibly go wrong? 

        — brooksby

        Agreed. But they are great for breezing past all the traffic when they are not blocked by a row of buses.

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    • chrisonabike
      October 6, 2021 at 10:22 am
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      Fallacy – bus lanes are great

      Fallacy – bus lanes are great for cyclists! Tons of links there for the interested but we probaby all know.

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      • nicmason
        October 6, 2021 at 10:54 am
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        I’d disagree. I use bus lanes

        I’d disagree. I use bus lanes in North london and find its an easier run when the lanes are in operation than when they arent.

        I think a common mistake is to ride right up the back of a stopping bus and try to pull out . Its better to pull out early. 

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        • Hirsute
          October 6, 2021 at 12:39 pm
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          nicmason wrote:

          I think a common mistake is to ride right up the back of a stopping bus and try to pull out . Its better to pull out early. 

          — nicmason

          I see the same with parked cars and people leaving it too late.

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          • nicmason
            October 6, 2021 at 1:13 pm
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            Though when the bus lane is

            Though when the bus lane is operating there should be no parked cars which is one of their advantages.

          • chrisonabike
            October 6, 2021 at 1:24 pm
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            nicmason wrote:

            I’d disagree. I use bus lanes in North london and find its an easier run when the lanes are in operation than when they arent.

            — nicmason

            Good for you and I personally do OK in bus lanes but I know people who don’t and won’t. They’re not a solution to “but where do we put the bikes” (for reasons put more effectively than me in that link).  Aside from the argument when you say you find it’s easier when they’re in operation is that because there are no cars parked there?

            Though when the bus lane is operating there should be no parked cars which is one of their advantages.

            — nicmason

            At least round Edinburgh they seem to operate be pretty variable hours. What surprised me is that the amount of bus lanes where parking is permitted.  Also even bus lanes aren’t continuous – they come and go like cycle lanes.

          • TheBillder
            October 6, 2021 at 8:40 pm
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            I think in Edinburgh we
            I think in Edinburgh we benefit from decently trained drivers. I really hate leaving work just before the bus lane hours end at 6.30 pm because all the arses decide to rush into the bus lane (Queen Street / York Place east bound in particular).

          • Hirsute
            October 6, 2021 at 8:19 pm
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            I didn’t mean in a bus lane.
            I didn’t mean in a bus lane. Just another example of leaving it too late.

        • brooksby
          October 6, 2021 at 1:24 pm
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          nicmason wrote:

          I’d disagree. I use bus lanes in North london and find its an easier run when the lanes are in operation than when they arent.

          I think a common mistake is to ride right up the back of a stopping bus and try to pull out . Its better to pull out early. 

          — nicmason

          True.  I’m more concerned when I have a double decker bus being driven about four feet from my back wheel, on a long straight bit where the bus driver could overtake but won’t because bus lane.

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        October 6, 2021 at 9:41 pm
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        Where I was talking they

        Where I was talking they actually do have a reasonably good cycle lane for people who average lower speeds. Unfortunately it is so good in places that most of the peds use it as it is smoother and actually further from the traffic then the normal pavement. Add to this there is one section of shared path with lots of street furniture and recently a temp bus stop which makes people queue over the path means that it is faster in the bus lane most times. 

        Although if I use my shopping hybrid, I do use the cycle path as I’m invariably slower anyway. 

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        • chrisonabike
          October 6, 2021 at 10:28 pm
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          Yeah – I can see that

          Yeah – I can see that understandably they’ve tacked something new on the side of a shit footway. Obviously they should have them the other way round, upgrading the footway to a cycle track.  If this is actually a suitable place to do this of course. Often see the results of “it’s easier to do if we put it here” mindset. Maybe also a tipping point effect where until there’s sufficient infra and thus cyclists then the greater numbers of people on foot will nab it.

          I hope stuff like this will all come out in the wash if Birmingham seriously get to their plan – or is it too far out from the centre?

          Maybe we could redirect the energies of these yoof who’ve got PSPO’d from the town centres to claim the lanes here? For extra coverage rope in the time triallers / triathletes – with automatic bike bells of course.

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  4. kil0ran
    October 6, 2021 at 10:48 am
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    Oh, what a surprise. Remco

    Oh, what a surprise. Remco being Remco. 

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  5. AlsoSomniloquism
    October 6, 2021 at 10:57 am
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    Re:WVA and the World

    Re:WVA and the World Championships. 

    I have always wondered how the national organisations decide who will be put forward to try to win this. And how are they coached being as they come from different teams.

    Countries like Slovakia where you have an obvious great rider, the choice is easy, although I suppose because he is so good his team mates can’t keep up with him to offer much support. But ones like Italy, Belgium, France or the Netherlands where you have such a selection of talent, who all could win it, then it must be a nightmare of a selection and getting them to follow orders as shown above. 

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    • PRSboy
      October 6, 2021 at 12:50 pm
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      AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

      Re:WVA and the World Championships. 

      I have always wondered how the national organisations decide who will be put forward to try to win this. And how are they coached being as they come from different teams.

      Countries like Slovakia where you have an obvious great rider, the choice is easy, although I suppose because he is so good his team mates can’t keep up with him to offer much support. But ones like Italy, Belgium, France or the Netherlands where you have such a selection of talent, who all could win it, then it must be a nightmare of a selection and getting them to follow orders as shown above. 

      — AlsoSomniloquism

      I’ve always wondered that… and thought it would be more interesting if there were no team orders allowed and everyone just raced.

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      • Awavey
        October 6, 2021 at 4:11 pm
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        well you pick a selection of

        well you pick a selection of riders who feel able to have open and honest conversations with each other, know what there own strengths and weaknesses are, have rapport with one another, team build together and are willing to put aside personal ambition for the betterment of the overall goal, difficult obviously when theres a world championship at stake as that is a life changing thing for any rider that you cant really share with other riders on your national team.

        but thats the ideal, I suppose you could argue the evidence is well none of them really work like that at all, and we know mostly from biogs of riders in these pre race team discussions the riders generally just default to what they know themselves or have worked out between each other rather then listen to what the coach says they should do and play it by ear as the race unfolds.

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  6. Awavey
    October 6, 2021 at 11:37 am
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    Speaking of “Live” coverage
    Speaking of “Live” coverage of the Women’s Tour anyone notice Skys program guide still claims at midday its showing Live coverage on Eurosport (it’s not unless the ITT has gone very wrong), and all the printed listing guides as well still show a 12pm-2pm live slot…just interesting I thought.

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  7. Benthic
    October 6, 2021 at 12:02 pm
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    “You should be in the effing

    “You should be in the effing cycle lane”

    “Is that because there is a cycle lane and I’m using a cycle? The clue is in the name, right?”

    “Yeah. So effing get in it”

    “Isn’t that a motorcar you’re driving”

    “Yeah. So effing wot?”

    “So why aren’t you using the motorway? The clue is in the name.”

    “Eff off you effing eff. I’ll run you over you eff”. etc. 

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  8. hawkinspeter
    October 6, 2021 at 2:11 pm
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    Anne Hidalgo shows that she

    Anne Hidalgo shows that she knows the meaning of levelling up.

    It shows what can be done when there’s the political will.

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  9. Argos74
    October 6, 2021 at 2:19 pm
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    Before I even opened the page

    Before I even opened the page and read the article, I thought “Stagecoach? Gotta be Staecoach.”, And yes I was right.

    She’s not the only one to have harrassed by Stagecoach for not using the bike lane. One of the reasons I use Princess Road, where I just get “f*** me jesus that’s one foot” close passes from Stagecoach drivers instead.

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    • No Reply
      October 7, 2021 at 7:18 pm
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      Almost all the really scary

      Almost all the really scary near misses I have experienced have been Stagecoach drivers. I have had so many double decker buses overtake me in the pinch points where a crossing island is in the road centre.

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  10. Awavey
    October 6, 2021 at 3:59 pm
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    its funny because Vollering

    its funny because Vollering was one of my picks for the overall GC, but I didnt think the ITT would shake things up at all, as it didnt feel long enough/technical enough for a specialist TT rider to gain that much time over their rivals, and certainly not a minute, oh well shows what I know 🙂

    But I do know that what the last 3 stages lack in big hills (cliche alert none of them are flat) can more than be made up by the unpredictable stronger blustery winds theyll experience nearer the coast, but youd think its a manageable gap unless the unexpected happens.

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    • AlsoSomniloquism
      October 6, 2021 at 9:28 pm
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      I was predicting no

      I was predicting no breakaways yesterday as the course was small and with no climbs as such. So welcome to the corner for making wrong guesses about the stages significances. 

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Shimano finally unveils long awaited EP810, boasting 100nm of torque, ‘Auto Assist’ and refined Auto Shift features
Shimano finally unveils long awaited EP810, boasting 100nm of torque, ‘Auto Assist’ and refined Auto Shift features
It may have seemed that Shimano's been left behind, but it's just released its latest entry into the e-bike motor game
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28, 30.5, or 32-inch? Newmen’s STREEM G.38 wheelset comes in three sizes to offer ‘the right size for everyone’
28, 30.5, or 32-inch? Newmen’s STREEM G.38 wheelset comes in three sizes to offer ‘the right size for everyone’
Need yet another wheel size option? Newmen's got you covered...
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3T’s Racemax+ WPNT brings more tyre clearance and more ‘accessible’ pricing to its racy gravel bike… but it’ll still set you back over £4k
3T’s Racemax+ WPNT brings more tyre clearance and more ‘accessible’ pricing to its racy gravel bike… but it’ll still set you back over £4k
More tyre clearance, more sizes and a tweaked geometry comes to 3T's raciest gravel race bike
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Santa Cruz Bronson 90 long term review: A capable and ludicrously fun machine but could do with some quality-of-life improvements
Santa Cruz Bronson 90 long term review: A capable and ludicrously fun machine but could do with some quality-of-life improvements
A capable all-mountain bike for those who prioritise a lively and engaging but assuring ride
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Kali Protectives Kru helmet
Kali Protectives Kru helmet
Unique looks bring very open field of view but comfort and breathability could be improved
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City of London councillor who rejected Voi reveals Lime role… and faces calls to quit; Plus Litespeed and Aurum go electric with new super-lightweight road e-bikes + more
City of London councillor who rejected Voi reveals Lime role… and faces calls to quit; Plus Litespeed and Aurum go electric with new super-lightweight road e-bikes + more
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Blocked pavements and irresponsible e-bike use “a real frustration”, prime minister says, as government finally announces consultation to standardise hire bike schemes
Blocked pavements and irresponsible e-bike use “a real frustration”, prime minister says, as government finally announces consultation to standardise hire bike schemes
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Amflow TL Carbon review – the Avinox M2 mid-motor is quite something
Amflow TL Carbon review – the Avinox M2 mid-motor is quite something
Brilliant full-suspension touring and leisure bike with a powerful motor
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$1 million in pre-orders in just over a day: Lemmo 3 e-bike obliterates funding target
$1 million in pre-orders in just over a day: Lemmo 3 e-bike obliterates funding target
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Honda’s new RN0 e-MTB reveals that there’s a new Shimano e-bike motor incoming
Honda’s new RN0 e-MTB reveals that there’s a new Shimano e-bike motor incoming
It's the bike industry's new worst kept secret, as Honda has done Shimano's job in announcing the component giant's return to the e-bike motor market
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Fiido T3 review – mid-motor e-cargo bike boasts an incredibly low price but needs more carrying accessories
Fiido T3 review – mid-motor e-cargo bike boasts an incredibly low price but needs more carrying accessories
A lot of bike for your money but a bit more thought towards helping the rider carry stuff would certainly have upped the score
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Check out these huge Black Friday savings on ADO folding and cargo electric bikes, starting from just £999!
Check out these huge Black Friday savings on ADO folding and cargo electric bikes, starting from just £999!
You can also get ADO's Air 20 Ultra folding e-bike for just £1,699, plus huge savings across urban and cargo models
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“It’s total anarchy!”: Confused councillor references illegal bike zombie knife incident while calling for hire e-bikes to have number plates
“It’s total anarchy!”: Confused councillor references illegal bike zombie knife incident while calling for hire e-bikes to have number plates
The councillor, who previously called for all e-bikes to be banned, was supposed to be making the case for a dockless bike 'identification scheme' in the London borough of Sutton, but devoted half of his speech talking about an incident involving the rider of an illegal Sur-Ron bike
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chrisonabike 8 minutes ago

@Rendel Harris Yes, but I think it's easy to underestimate the level of mental "change" and "risk" this represents (as a regular or even irregular adult cyclist). With e.g. cars, you just go online (was going to say "go to a dealer/garage...") and a car which will carry you and others around, carry the shopping, keep the weather off, allow you to drive at night and can be secured is not hard to find. And all your friends / relatives / contacts likely done so and are possible points of contact if you need advice (or just reassurance). Bikes? Much less (although thankfully as easy as riding a bike...). It's not like most people spent their childhood being carried around by adults on different bikes. Indeed the age most people stopped cycling (if they started) is probably getting lower. Outside of the e-(moto)(-(r)bike) riders. Of course there's more paperwork and expense for the car (optional in some areas / counties...) but so many things are familiar or guides are present. It's even simple to work out how to get to where you need. You just drive wherever you can (ideally on the roadway...). Even less thought using a satnav!

in: 86 per cent of people in Northern Ireland say cycling short distances is not possible or too scary
chrisonabike 18 minutes ago

@ChrisA It's a different universe * but in NL while they have had building regulations requiring bike storage for decades, lots of the historic housing stock won't have them. As well as some creative solutions ** many people simply store their bikes outside. And indeed some of the "durability" of Dutch bikes relates to being able to withstand living outdoors in all weathers (heavier frames / more paint - but chaincase / enclosed gears and brakes also feature). Like so many things it's hard to imagine in the UK (theft and particularly vandalism). (But the number of "cycle hangers" is growing...) I hear there's plenty of theft in NL also - but with the numbers of bikes perhaps it's just like how people in the UK are used to leaving their cars parked on the street? * But also - only about half a century away to be recognisable, perhaps - especially in the few UK places where there is some passable cycle infra? ** See e.g. the BicycleDutch article "Home-side bicycle parking" on the Buurtstalling (Neighbourhood Bicycle Parking Facility). Plus of course the practice of many people effectively storing a bike at a train station as part of their commute.

in: 86 per cent of people in Northern Ireland say cycling short distances is not possible or too scary
DS2025 39 minutes ago

@chrisonabike Some first class trolling from Callum... I love it.

in: “Everyone knows I won. Everyone advocates for clean and fair sport, then they do this. It’s not fair”: Federation appeals after jury relegates cyclocross champion for sprint deviation; Isaac del Toro ‘wins’ Singapore criterium + more on the live blog
Paul J 1 hour ago

I'm a big fan of Lucinda Brand, but it was a travesty to take that win from Marie Schreiber. From the overhead shot it was clear that Lucinda at no stage got alongside Schreiber, and it was clear from Lucinda's pedal strokes - which continued as they were - that she not impeded. Lucinda's own words to the jury confirmed that Marie had not impeded Lucinda, and based on that there was no reason to overturn Marie's win. It was ridiculous. A stain on the weekend.

in: “Everyone knows I won. Everyone advocates for clean and fair sport, then they do this. It’s not fair”: Federation appeals after jury relegates cyclocross champion for sprint deviation; Isaac del Toro ‘wins’ Singapore criterium + more on the live blog
chrisonabike 3 hours ago

Playing to the crowd again!

in: “Everyone knows I won. Everyone advocates for clean and fair sport, then they do this. It’s not fair”: Federation appeals after jury relegates cyclocross champion for sprint deviation; Isaac del Toro ‘wins’ Singapore criterium + more on the live blog
Rendel Harris 3 hours ago

@This Wreckage I was thinking more of having space to put a bike store, which can be obtained relatively inexpensively these days, although I agree that's a fairly high level of commitment for someone who isn't certain cycling is for them. An Oxford ground anchor and a Topeak bike cover only cost £25 together so not an enormous commitment.

in: 86 per cent of people in Northern Ireland say cycling short distances is not possible or too scary
ChrisA 3 hours ago

@chrisonabike Keeping your pride and joy, or at least a tool that you clean, maintain & use regularly, in your home is one thing. But many people who "have to" use a bike will have an old rusty boneshaker, or better, that they would, by habit, just leave outside (just look at all the shiny new kids bikes that are left lying around, which neither the children or their parents are minded to put away). Any if it is still working, rather than your rusty relic, eventually somebody is going to "borrow" it. It both depresses me that it is necessary and surprises me that people don't lock up things.

in: 86 per cent of people in Northern Ireland say cycling short distances is not possible or too scary
polainm 3 hours ago

Much debate on this but the summary is the UK has one of the most toxic cyclist-hating highway cultures on the planet. Strangely lumped together with other English speaking nations; America and Australia. The media is saturated with highly obnoxious presenters who can freely suggest slicing heads off cyclists with a taut wire across a path, without any repercussions. Most drivers are broadly ignorant of the hierarchy of road users, passing distances and how VED is arrived at. The degree of arrogance on display from within 2 tonnes of potentially deadly machinery used on the public highway is widespread and police, CPS and judges' institutional bias is effectively complicit in the road rage pandemic. All bow to the Car god. The idea of sustainable transport and cycling for a healthy nation is dead in the water while this toxic culture remains so pervasive. I have no faith in the policing of dangerous driving, cycling or walking. How police resources are deployed is beyond a joke, where it is now a political weapon and jack boot on the throat of the Freedom of Speech and the Right to Protest.

in: Police say “not appropriate” to release close pass footage captured by cyclist fined £1,200 in viral clip
This Wreckage 5 hours ago

@Zermattjohn This is one reason I loathe policing in our society. Illegal drugs cause no more (probably less) harm through their use than do alcohol and tobacco. The continuing war on drugs does itself cause enormous medical, social, economic and financial harms - many addicts refuse to seek help because of the real fear of being reported to the police, for example, and there might be less incentive for addicts to steal our bikes if they are enabled to manage their consumption.

in: Luton Town fan’s charity cycle to away match ends on day one… after his bike was stolen outside a Starbucks
This Wreckage 5 hours ago

@Rendel Harris How secure is it to keep a bike outside in a yard or front patio, for example? I'm not sure I'd be willing to do so, no matter how good the lock. It would mean covering the bike(s) with a waterproof material and attaching the bike securely to something solid fixed to the ground or the wall. Not ideal, and hardly an attractive prospect for people who aren't sold on cycling yet.

in: 86 per cent of people in Northern Ireland say cycling short distances is not possible or too scary

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