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Longridge cycle lane 2 (screenshot via Lancashire Post) (Image Credit: screenshot via Lancashire Post)

“That was really exciting!” Longridge local tries out Lancashire’s ‘shortest cycle lane’; Police target speeding cyclists in Toronto parks; Drum and Bass on a Bike… or “some sort of disruptive demonstration”?; Cycling hairstyles + more on the live blog

It’s Wednesday, the longest day of the year is already a distant memory, and Ryan Mallon is in the hotseat for your middle-of-the-week live blog
  • by Ryan Mallon
Wed, Jun 22, 2022 08:49
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  • “People are getting killed on the street next to the park. It does not make a lick of sense”: Lawyer blasts “targeted campaign” against speeding cyclists in Toronto parks
  • Drum and Bass on a Bike takes over Sheffield… causing tram services to be delayed by “some sort of disruptive demonstration”
  • Cycling Hair Awards, 2022
  • Motorist with pint of San Miguel on dashboard arrested after being “too drunk” to take breath test
  • E-bike brand Mycle offers £100 discount to commuters affected by rail strikes
  • Adventure cyclist aims to visit 22 countries in seven days
  • Now that’s how it’s done…
  • Park Tool do an Ed Balls…
  • “That was really exciting!” Longridge local tries out Lancashire’s ‘shortest cycle lane’
  • Couple goals
  • Ineos launch new cycling academy in Kenya
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22 June 2022, 08:49

“People are getting killed on the street next to the park. It does not make a lick of sense”: Lawyer blasts “targeted campaign” against speeding cyclists in Toronto parks

Last night in High Park #TorontoPolice were out radar gunning cyclists. They did this armed & adorned with thin blue line patches. A day before the Chief is set to issue an apology for disproportionate use of force and strip searches against Black Torontonians, anti-Black racism. pic.twitter.com/FUZWyByyRQ

— The Biking Lawyer (Dave Shellnutt) (@TheBikingLawyer) June 15, 2022

A Toronto-based personal injury lawyer and cycling advocate has criticised what he says is a “targeted campaign” by police officers to catch speeding cyclists in the city’s parks.

Police were spotted earlier this week using radar guns in the Canadian city’s High Park, a popular haunt for cyclists who ride through it to avoid the busy – and often dangerous – bike lanes in the area.

David Shellnut is one of a number of Toronto cyclists critical of the campaign, in place since at least the summer of 2020, which the lawyer argues is a waste of resources, citing the police’s own data on injuries caused by cyclists compared to drivers to support his case.

1 of nearly 17,000 Killed or Seriously Injured (KSI) collisions since 2006 per Toronto police database have been in High Park. None in main loop so popular with people on bikes. This effort is at best a distraction to making our streets safer for all road users. h/t: @dereklind https://t.co/lv3I1iDunB pic.twitter.com/MF07y3OK2m

— MWCC (@midweekcycling) June 16, 2022

“A friend of mine [was] going through the park on his way to work and [was given] a $120 ticket,” Shellnut told blogTO. 

“The next week, he was biking in the bike lane adjacent to the park — he likes the park to keep safe — so he’s like, ‘I guess I’ll just go on the bike lane next to it,’ and gets hit by a right-turning driver who fails to yield the right of way and smashes his collarbone.

“The driver gets less of a ticket than my client did for speeding on his 70s Raleigh in High Park.”

Shellnut continued: “People are getting killed on the street next to [the park]. It does not make a lick of sense what they’re trying to do.

“If your guys every year have to ask for another $25 million and resources are tight, what are they doing spending money on things that aren’t actually a problem? There are no stats to back up what they’re doing.”

It’s interesting how it’s always about “the best use of limited policing resources” and somehow policing cyclists was high on that list?

— Brian 🇺🇦 (@Bravado_5) June 15, 2022

The lawyer also told the website that cyclists, especially those from a minority background, were made to feel “sort of uncomfortable, terrorised” by the constant police presence – and the use of a gun-like object – in the park. Last week, Toronto’s Chief of Police issued an apology after a recent study found that racial profiling and discrimination is a systemic issue within the police force.

Shellnut acknowledged that pedestrians can “get a little unnerved when a cyclist blows by in the park. I’m sure that happens, and I’m not discounting anybody’s feelings or experiences, but [seeking] solutions to those problems”, one of which is a possible dedicated morning slot for cyclists in the park to ride to work quickly and safely.

“Just because we have a billion-dollar hammer doesn’t mean every problem is a nail,” he said.

I’m hearing the police at out at High Park again. Sorry to ruin your day. Careful riders.

— The Biking Lawyer (Dave Shellnutt) (@TheBikingLawyer) June 21, 2022

A Toronto Police spokesperson defended the anti-speeding campaign in the park, claiming that it is being carried out “in response to concerns and to help keep the community safe.”

“Members have been working with City by-law officers by stopping vehicles and cyclists witnessed speeding or committing offences such as failing to stop at stop signs. Police officers and by-law officers educate the driver or rider on their behaviour.

“These members situate themselves at stop signs at various locations in the park. This has served as an educational piece for cyclists being advised of the HTA infractions they could face as well as the inherent dangers of going too fast. Toronto Police Auxiliary Officers have also been detailed to patrol the park as well.

“This has been welcomed by the local community as well those visiting the park.”

22 June 2022, 08:49

Drum and Bass on a Bike takes over Sheffield… causing tram services to be delayed by “some sort of disruptive demonstration”

No one cycles in #Sheffield, it’s too hilly. Why should we waste our council tax paying for infrastructure that no one will use.

Sheffield #cyclists – hold my beer.

Pics @imajez1 @domwhiting #drumandbass pic.twitter.com/ZmuVqHSeFB

— CyclingInASkirt (@CyclingInASkirt) June 19, 2022

Roughly 1,000 cyclists took over the streets of Sheffield on Sunday for Dom Whiting’s latest two wheeled rave.

“It’s all about bringing people together,” the pedalling DJ told the BBC.

“Everyone seems to take it in and embraces it. It’s very rare we have motorists who get annoyed by it.

“It’s just crazy, always brings a smile to people’s faces and Sheffield has quite a big bike scene.

“It’s quite surreal. I can’t see the end of the line, everyone is always having it and there’s smiles for as far as the eye can see.”

The local tram network wasn’t as chuffed with Whiting’s biking beats, however, blaming delays in the city centre on “some sort of disruptive demonstration of pedestrians and cyclist”…

Tram services are suffering delays at various location in the city centre are due some sort of disruptive demonstration of pedestrians and cyclist.

— Stagecoach Supertram (@SCSupertram) June 19, 2022

22 June 2022, 08:49

Cycling Hair Awards, 2022

Can someone help — is he wearing a raccoon hat, OR IS THAT HIS OWN HAIR? https://t.co/4RhPUzCnXj

— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) June 22, 2022

Looks like Shane ‘The Flying Mullet’ Archbold might have some competition…

RideLondon 2015 Bora Argon 18 Shane Archbold
RideLondon 2015 Bora Argon 18 Shane Archbold (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
RideLondon 2015 Bora Argon 18 Shane Archbold
RideLondon 2015 Bora Argon 18 Shane Archbold (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

22 June 2022, 08:49

Motorist with pint of San Miguel on dashboard arrested after being “too drunk” to take breath test

Any idea what made us stop this one? Driver was too drunk to provide and he’s been arrested and is now in custody. Another selfish drink driver off the roads #syn1 pic.twitter.com/z9fOOIHKTK

— Roads Policing Unit (@MerPolTraffic) June 20, 2022

Merseyside Police later released a statement confirming that the driver was arrested “on suspicion of failing to provide a specimen for analysis, failing to co-operate with a preliminary test, possession of a controlled drug of Class A (cocaine) and using a vehicle without third party insurance. He is currently in custody.”

But at least he didn’t spill too much of his beer… 

22 June 2022, 08:49

E-bike brand Mycle offers £100 discount to commuters affected by rail strikes

#TrainStrikes are causing major delays throughout the UK.

Not to Claire though.

Claire goes to work every day on her Mycle eBike. 10 minutes flat, even on a bad day.#ebike #mycle #electricbike pic.twitter.com/wKXXrfNuJc

— Mycle (@MyMycle) June 20, 2022

E-bike brand Mycle (from what I gather, not an homage to the infamous ‘No Bycles’ message featured on the blog last month) are offering a £100 discount on all their electric bikes to commuters affected by this week’s national rail strikes.

To take advantage of the voucher scheme, you just need to email Mycle (enquiries@mycle.co.uk) with a photo or screenshot of any rail ticket from June, up to yesterday, and they’ll send you a discount code.

22 June 2022, 08:49

Adventure cyclist aims to visit 22 countries in seven days

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by Craig N (@craig_ns_adventure)

Now this is what you call a cycling holiday.

Ultra-distance cyclist Craig is currently in the middle of a mammoth week-long trek between Greece and what he hopes will be his final destination, the Netherlands.

He’s attempting to break the Guinness World Record for the most countries visited in seven days by bike. The record currently stands at 15 – if Craig makes it all the way to the Netherlands, he’ll have passed through 22 countries (he has to make it to Italy at least to break the record).

“The distance I am planning to cover is just about 2900km om paper (1800 miles) which means I am planning to cover 410km/256 miles per 24 hours,” Craig told us.

“I am doing this self-supported, carrying everything I need along with me on my bike. I’m hoping it will make for a great adventure.”

As well as his world record attempt, Craig is also raising funds for the housing and homelessness charity Shelter.

“It occurred to me that I have decided to voluntarily sleep in the cheapest hotels and rough all week, so I thought it would be nice to try to raise some money for those who have no choice in where they sleep next week,” he says.

You can donate on Craig’s JustGiving page.

You can also keep tabs on the adventure cyclist’s progress on this tracking site, which tell us that he’s currently close to Hungary’s border with Austria, on his way north to Slovakia.

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by Craig N (@craig_ns_adventure)

Craig’s hopefully record-breaking ride was almost over as soon as it started, however, as his Di2 decided to call it quits during the flight to Greece and his new valve core snapped soon after he arrived, leaving the rider with no wheels or gears before he’d even cycled a mile.

Fortunately, a local mechanic was on hand to save the day and – quite literally – keep the show on the road, allowing Craig to set off from Greece as planned on Sunday morning. Phew…

 
 
 
 
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A post shared by Craig N (@craig_ns_adventure)

22 June 2022, 08:49

Now that’s how it’s done…

In Amsterdam they built a new school on this road, which had no cycling infrastructure, so they have made the road one way for cars and are currently constructing a bidirectional cycle track so children can safely cycle to school. Before image from Google and the street today pic.twitter.com/2nJ2epvRKc

— Hackney Cyclist (@Hackneycyclist) June 21, 2022

Compare this to the dreadful plans from Hackney Council for Downham Road, which also has a school on it, who want to make cycling even more unsafe by narrowing the road, rather than providing safe cycle tracks, forcing primary school children off the road altogether. pic.twitter.com/qbSXyaJbnt

— Hackney Cyclist (@Hackneycyclist) June 21, 2022

22 June 2022, 08:49

Park Tool do an Ed Balls…

Bicycle tools

— Park Tool (@parktool) June 22, 2022

22 June 2022, 08:49

“That was really exciting!” Longridge local tries out Lancashire’s ‘shortest cycle lane’

Move over, Breaking Away and A Sunday in Hell.

This clip from the Lancashire Post, showing pensioner Irene Prescott trying out a new cycle lane outside her home in Longridge, has already shot straight towards the top of road.cc’s list of favourite cycling films.

It has everything you want really: a stupidly short bike lane (measuring approximately 5.5 metres), impeccable comic timing from Irene (“It wasn’t as tiring as I thought it was going to be”), and some brilliant unintentional gaffes (Irene wearing her helmet backwards throughout the video while also trying to pump up her tyres without taking the dust cap off).

And to cap it all off, a motorist decides to test out Lancashire’s shortest cycle lane just as Irene enjoys her well-deserved cuppa:

Longridge cycle lane (screenshot via Lancashire Post)
Longridge cycle lane (screenshot via Lancashire Post) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Longridge cycle lane (screenshot via Lancashire Post)
Longridge cycle lane (screenshot via Lancashire Post) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The Facebook comments were, as ever, a joy to behold. While most users simply enjoyed Irene’s comic stylings and unique two-wheeled fashion sense, some thought her approach to riding her bike would “promote unsafe behaviour” and others pointed out that the five-metre lane would make the junction safer for cyclists.

Dave, however, hit the nail on the head: “Some poor buggers in the council had to fill in thousands of forms to do this…”

But what does Irene herself think of the new pocket-sized bike lane?

“I thought it was a bit strange myself,” the 76-year-old told the Lancashire Post. 

“One day we woke up and were quite surprised to see this cycle lane in front of the house. We were all a bit gobsmacked. I don’t really think there’s a need for it. I just can’t understand it.

“It’s just a bit silly I think just to put a short one like that. There’s room for a cycle lane but not like that one. I just want it to be all the way along. It’s common sense.”

Irene’s partner Steve, however, thinks the new lane “hasn’t done any harm”, while making it easier for him to get out of his drive.

Charlie Edwards, Lancashire County Council’s cabinet member for highways and transport, defended the lane, pointing out it “replaces an area of hatched markings which were previously at the same location and, by narrowing the road width for vehicles, encourages drivers approaching from Longridge to slow down as they enter the junction, as well as offering increased protection for cyclists.

“While I agree that this may not be a long cycle lane, sometimes it’s the smaller improvements we can make to junctions that have as much of an effect on everyone’s journeys as installing miles of cycle paths on country roads.”

It’s the little things that count, after all.

The new Longridge lane (or should that be Shortridge? Alright, I’ll stop now) is a monster compared to some of the UK’s other offerings, such as this 3.9m one in Wolverhampton or Leeds’ classic merry-go-round right into a puddle:

When Leeds boasted (arguably) Britain’s shortest cycle lane https://t.co/SYIX8NLN5T #Leeds #cycling pic.twitter.com/E2W62NprgI

— Andrew Hutchinson (@AndyHutchYPN) May 19, 2022

Although this absolute whopper in Stroud, Gloucester, unveiled in 2015, may just have the beating of them all, totalling a massive 2.4 metres (or one whole pedal stroke…):

Caminada Stroud bike lane.png
Caminada Stroud bike lane (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Caminada Stroud bike lane.png
Caminada Stroud bike lane (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

22 June 2022, 08:49

Couple goals

Rein Taaramäe earned our 15th victory of 2022 😍

Icing on the cake, his wife @HannaTaaramae also won the Women Elites Estonia Championships Time Trial 🇪🇪 🥇

Congratulations to both 👏 pic.twitter.com/ajIazPM6pT

— Intermarché-Wanty-Gobert (@IntermarcheWG) June 22, 2022

22 June 2022, 08:49

Ineos launch new cycling academy in Kenya

Ineos Grenadiers are partnering with Eliud Kipchoge to set up a cycling academy at the marathon world record holder’s training centre in Kaptagat, Kenya.

Kipchoge, a double Olympic champion who became the first man ever to run a sub-two hour marathon as part of the Ineos 1.59 Challenge in 2019, hopes the expansion of his centre to include cycling will allow Kenya to identify and develop a generation of cyclists similar to the country’s world-class distance runners.

 “I’m proud that we are expanding our Kaptagat based training camp from a purely athletics focussed training camp towards a wider kind of sports academy,” Kipchoge said.

“The Ineos Eliud Kipchoge Cycling Academy is a very natural fit with great potential to enable our young talented cyclists to make the next steps towards the top level of cycling.”

Ineos Grenadier’s team principal, and the chemicals company’s director of sport, Dave Brailsford said: “This is a significant and exciting development in world cycling – it has the power to drive lasting change by developing new riders from Africa.

“We all know the talent is there – we’ve seen it this year with Biniam Girmay’s history-making successes at the Giro d’Italia and Gent-Wevelgem, and I saw it first-hand in the inspiring young athletes I met in Kaptagat.

“Their passion, dedication and love of sport is a perfect fit with the INEOS Grenadiers’ spirit of giving it all to race and be your best. Together I believe we can achieve something unique and important for cycling in Kenya, Africa, and the sport itself.”

Ineos Cycling Academy Kaptagat, Kenya 2
Ineos Cycling Academy Kaptagat, Kenya 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Ineos Cycling Academy Kaptagat, Kenya 2
Ineos Cycling Academy Kaptagat, Kenya 2 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

The new cycling academy will be overseen by Valentijn Trouw, who has 30 years of experience managing and nurturing Kenyan athletes.

Two of Trouw’s athletes, Susan Chepkemei and former world indoor 1,500m champion Abeba Argawi, have tested positive for banned substances, though in both instances their bans were either reduced or struck off completely.

Kipchoge himself has never tested positive or been implicated in any wrongdoing. In 2016, he welcomed a new anti-doping law which allowed the country’s athletes to compete in that year’s Olympic Games, after Kenya missed two WADA-imposed deadlines to establish a funded anti-doping agency which complied with the world anti-doping code.

Despite 40 Kenyan athletes testing positive for performance enhancing drugs between 2012 and 2016, Kipchoge insisted that most of his compatriots were competing clean.

“I invite you guys to Kenya, come to our training camp, see our sessions,” he told journalists at the time. “You will see that people are working hard.”

22 June 2022, 08:49

Longridge to host 2024 Tour prologue?

Next year’s Tour Prologue

— Crown Green Bowler (29) (@29Crown) June 22, 2022

Forget Florence, a 5.5 metre bike lane time trial as part of a Lancashire grand depart – that’s what the people want…

Or maybe we could pitch the bleak beauty of this Highlands ‘cycle route’ to ASO?

The B851 cycle facility in Strathnairn is unbeatable. https://t.co/wJfkUYLhea pic.twitter.com/amXJFbwKSR

— 𝙾𝚟𝚎𝚛𝚕𝚊𝚗𝚍𝚎𝚛 (@overlandertheb1) June 22, 2022

Micro-TTs – that’s the future of bike racing right there.

22 June 2022, 08:49

Covid, shortages, Brexit... now bike thefts a concern for pro teams as Saint Piran lose £30,000 of bikes

Covid, shortages, Brexit... now bike thefts a concern for pro teams as Saint Piran lose £30,000 of bikes

Cornwall-based Saint Piran had three bikes worth a total of £30,000 stolen from a team van in the early hours of Sunday morning

22 June 2022, 08:49

"Considerable softening of the cycling market": Halfords sales slow as supply chain disruption and inflation bite

"Considerable softening of the cycling market": Halfords sales slow as supply chain disruption and inflation bite

2021/22 saw drop-off in cycling sales, but retailer says it should "emerge from this challenging trading environment in a relatively stronger position"

22 June 2022, 08:49

Cyclist "luckiest man alive" after tumbling down "crazy" brick staircase on cycle route's steep hill

Cyclist "luckiest man alive" after tumbling down "crazy" brick staircase on cycle route's steep hill

83-year-old Ron Keegan slipped while negotiating the steps built up a steep climb on a £350,000 cycle path in Torquay

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41 thoughts on ““That was really exciting!” Longridge local tries out Lancashire’s ‘shortest cycle lane’; Police target speeding cyclists in Toronto parks; Drum and Bass on a Bike… or “some sort of disruptive demonstration”?; Cycling hairstyles + more on the live blog”

  1. Hirsute
    June 22, 2022 at 9:02 am
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    Surprised you didn’t include

    Surprised you didn’t include the Hulk – cycling mikey’s new buddy !

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVy4bz7VEAU8szx?format=jpg&name=small

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  2. RobD
    June 22, 2022 at 9:40 am
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    I mean, surely a few reminder

    I mean, surely a few reminder signs for cyclists being put up around the park entrances and along the most popular routes would be at least as effective and significantly cheaper?

    The few that will ignore the signs are likely to ignore the police presence too

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  3. mdavidford
    June 22, 2022 at 10:20 am
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    That’s clearly a human

    That’s clearly a human-squirrel hybrid.

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    • ktache
      June 22, 2022 at 6:55 pm
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      I don’t know if it’shis

      I don’t know if it’shis strange 360 camera, but Jeremy’s bars seem quite wide for a commuter?

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      • Rendel Harris
        June 22, 2022 at 7:26 pm
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        ktache wrote:

        I don’t know if it’shis strange 360 camera, but Jeremy’s bars seem quite wide for a commuter?

        — ktache

        I think it’s the camera doing a fisheye – I see him around Kensington and environs quite often and he rides a pretty standard hybrid, as far as I can tell.

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  4. vthejk
    June 22, 2022 at 10:40 am
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    Quote:

    Shellnut acknowledged that pedestrians can “get a little unnerved when a cyclist blows by in the park.

    The Schrodinger’s cyclist strikes again – too slow for motorists, too fast for pedestrians. Or is that the Goldilocks cyclist? I can’t keep up.

    I had fun having this very same discussion with the charming lady on the (shared-use) Greenway today, chiding me for ‘racing past’ her two tiny terriers walking off-lead despite me being visible for nearly 300m ahead of her, the route being straight and wide and my speed being…..16kph.

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    • Steve K
      June 22, 2022 at 11:31 am
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      vthejk wrote:

      The Schrodinger’s cyclist strikes again – too slow for motorists, too fast for pedestrians. Or is that the Goldilocks cyclist? I can’t keep up.

       — vthejk

      The former.  Goldilocks would imply that there was a speed that was “just right”, which we know isn’t true.

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      • vthejk
        June 22, 2022 at 11:59 am
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        The implication of

        The implication of ‘Goldilocks’  is that, somewhere, there is a ‘just right’ speed that will satisfy everyone, but finding it is tricky if not impossible and comes with a very high risk of being killed by angry hairy animals.

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        • Steve K
          June 22, 2022 at 12:52 pm
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          I think it is supposed to be

          I think it is supposed to be possible, though – as Goldilocks found a just right solution in each case.  The risk of being killed by angry hairy animals did not actually occur until after she’d found the right balance in each case.  It came from over-sleeping, which is never a good thing to do on your bike.

          I may be over-thinking this.

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          • chrisonabike
            June 22, 2022 at 1:22 pm
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            Applying ‘elf and safety

            Applying ‘elf and safety perspective – bears are a hazard to goldilocks when present.  When not present there is no risk from them.  However a risk assessment would have identified the likelihood of the bears will returning to their house.  This would show that going to sleep there makes it high risk as there is no monitoring for approach of bears.

            Working up the hierarchy of controls Goldilocks could have carried a trauma kit, taken bear spray, posted a lookout, locked the bedroom door, gone to sleep in the one of the houses of the three little pigs instead or best of all arranged to have the bears kept in a bear pit.

          • Steve K
            June 22, 2022 at 1:30 pm
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            Do health and safety risk

            Do health and safety risk assessment rules apply to trespassers?

            (We’re both over thinking this, clearly.)

          • chrisonabike
            June 22, 2022 at 3:26 pm
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            Good question!  Sounds like

            Good question!  Sounds like the “broken glass on top of wall” / “free-running bears behind fence” thing.  I imagine you could be liable under some tort if an “accident” was foreseeable.  If a landlord installed the bears in a cottage in the woods with porridge cooling and the doors open and little girls wandering about presumably that would be “attractive nuisance” territory?

            What about if you surrounded your private wood with (locked) bear-filled houses?  Could you “sign it better”?

          • vthejk
            June 23, 2022 at 8:01 am
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            Honestly I never thought my

            Honestly I never thought my confused metaphor of Goldilocks would ever stretch so far, but here we are

          • mdavidford
            June 23, 2022 at 8:08 am
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            vthejk wrote:

            I never thought my confused metaphor of Goldilocks would ever stretch so far

            — vthejk

            Must have got a bit confused with Rapunzel.

          • vthejk
            June 23, 2022 at 9:47 am
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            mdavidford wrote:

            Must have got a bit confused with Rapunzel.

            — mdavidford

            Mission accomplished: Have made this thread entirely about children’s stories. I can now let my hair down.

          • chrisonabike
            June 23, 2022 at 10:08 am
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            Aha!  I thought I saw

            Aha!  I thought I saw something lurking under the bridge…

          • vthejk
            June 23, 2022 at 10:59 am
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            As long as it’s not a rickety

            As long as it’s not a rickety bridge over a boiling lake of lava.

  5. AidanR
    June 22, 2022 at 10:40 am
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    There’s a 20km/h speed limit
    There’s a 20km/h speed limit in High Park, which isn’t unreasonable as it’s a recreational space. I don’t really see why anyone, cyclists included, should object to it being enforced every now and again.

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    • Rendel Harris
      June 22, 2022 at 12:25 pm
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      AidanR wrote:

      There’s a 20km/h speed limit in High Park, which isn’t unreasonable as it’s a recreational space. I don’t really see why anyone, cyclists included, should object to it being enforced every now and again.

      — AidanR

      Because the majority of purely recreational and commuting cyclists won’t have speedometers, so won’t be able to tell if they are transgressing or not. It would be much more useful in these sort of circumstances if the police forgot their obsession with trying to treat cyclists like car drivers and instead focused on promoting courteous and sensible cycling and stopping, speaking to and if necessary sanctioning those who aren’t. Who is it more important to stop, a person riding 25 km/h when the path is completely clear of pedestrians or a person riding 19 km/h who is slaloming in and out of a crowd?

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      • AidanR
        June 22, 2022 at 1:28 pm
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        It appears that there are
        It appears that there are Strava sections in the park and it’s used by some for training rides, which is (a) inappropriate and (b) they clearly know how fast they’re going. Also, the guy doing the complaining has a helmet camera. Do you not think he’d have a speedo too?

        Moreover, the police *are* doing what you’re suggesting, which is why they’re at a stop sign. I don’t see why that precludes them also checking how fast cyclists are going.

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        • Flintshire Boy
          June 22, 2022 at 2:02 pm
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          .

          .

          DO NOT, EVER, quibble with a point that Trendy makes.

          .

          Trendy is ALWAYS correct.

          .

          And when his isn’t, then rule 1. applies.

          .

           

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          • AlsoSomniloquism
            June 22, 2022 at 2:19 pm
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            Do you actually ever post

            Do you actually ever post about bikes anymore Flint, or just come on to moan about the site and posters on the site? For someone who once posted not to denigrate other posters, you never seemed to follow that advice.

          • Rendel Harris
            June 22, 2022 at 6:18 pm
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            AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

            Do you actually ever post about bikes anymore Flint

            — AlsoSomniloquism

            Did s/he ever? Admittedly I’ve only been round these parts four years or so but I can’t ever remember them commenting on cycling except as a tangential means of whining about woke lefty libtard snowflakes.

          • Rendel Harris
            June 22, 2022 at 2:57 pm
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            .

            .

        • AlsoSomniloquism
          June 22, 2022 at 2:18 pm
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          I don’t have a speedo on my

          I don’t have a speedo on my commuting bike but have a helmet cam. However it does seem a bit of a storm in a teacup as the Police state they are there for the Stop sign enforcement for both cyclists and cars. And when asked if ticketed any cyclists, they replied “no, just educated them”.

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          • Rendel Harris
            June 22, 2022 at 4:28 pm
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            AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

            I don’t have a speedo on my commuting bike but have a helmet cam. However it does seem a bit of a storm in a teacup as the Police state they are there for the Stop sign enforcement for both cyclists and cars. And when asked if ticketed any cyclists, they replied “no, just educated them”.

            — AlsoSomniloquism

            Though a quick Google shows that at other times they’ve been rather more stringent: on two days in February they apparently handed out 126 tickets to cyclists for speeding or running the stop sign in the same location, though reports don’t say in what ratio.

      • Mybike
        June 22, 2022 at 2:06 pm
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        It still a public road
        It still a public road therefore the rules of the road need to be followed. I always stop at stop signs or light when I ride my bike Simply because that what I’m suppose to do on the road just as I do with my car

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        • Rendel Harris
          June 22, 2022 at 3:08 pm
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          Mybike wrote:

          It still a public road therefore the rules of the road need to be followed. I always stop at stop signs or light when I ride my bike

          — Mybike

          Quite right too, so do I. I was simply commenting on the fact that a cyclist without a speedometer has no way of knowing if they are transgressing the speed limit, that’s why in the UK speed limits don’t apply to cyclists (although excess speed can form part of a dangerous and furious cycling charge).

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  6. Cupov
    June 22, 2022 at 10:54 am
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    Nice piece of half-arsed

    Nice piece of half-arsed research by the stagecoach supertram twitter person

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    • Patrick9-32
      June 22, 2022 at 4:35 pm
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      Some kind of complaining

      Some kind of complaining prole? who knows these days, I didn’t want to risk them touching me so I didn’t ask. 

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  7. Moist von Lipwig
    June 22, 2022 at 11:54 am
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    Theres something a bit odd

    Theres something a bit odd about the Toronto story.  If the police are speed gunning cyclists then why are they doing it at a stop sign where anyone would be slowing anyway?  It seems from reading it they’re actually there ticketing the stop infraction, the speed gun might be just habit?  Also, I’m not familiar with the Canadian highway code – are cycles even subject to speed limits as per the UK HC?

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  8. Roulereo
    June 22, 2022 at 12:53 pm
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    Welcome to the Daily Outrage,

    Welcome to the Daily Outrage, travelling thousands of miles for an excuse to be upset like a Leftie on a Sunday night on Twitter…

    Come on, back tot he actual cycling stories. We’re about a week away from Le Grand Depart and you’re too busy firing up the whining Leftie ranters to tell us what’s happening in cycling. 

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    • mdavidford
      June 22, 2022 at 1:00 pm
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      Roulereo wrote:

      back tot he actual cycling stories. We’re about a week away from Le Grand Depart

      — Roulereo

      You’re confused – that’s not ‘actual cycling’ – it’s professional sport – a whole different thing.

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    • Bezzard74
      June 22, 2022 at 1:23 pm
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      Bore off Nige.
      Bore off Nige.

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      • AlsoSomniloquism
        June 22, 2022 at 2:32 pm
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        Nah, he was here when Nige’s

        Nah, he was here when Nige’s last dud account was got rid off. And is also a Yank Republican Conspiracy Theorist so should be called Marjory or Cawthorne. 

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  9. Awavey
    June 22, 2022 at 12:58 pm
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    That’s exactly the kind of
    That’s exactly the kind of Dutch thinking for cycling infra I wanted to see last week and that we know wont ever be delivered in the UK, because UK road planners arent that bold enough to say let’s completely rework this, it’s always well got to keep the traffic on the road here, so let’s just widen the path a bit for a shared space instead.

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  10. Bentrider
    June 22, 2022 at 4:02 pm
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    What’s the old (bad taste)

    What’s the old (bad taste) joke?

    “Don’t Drink and Drive….you’ll only spill it!”

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  11. OnYerBike
    June 22, 2022 at 4:46 pm
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    What really annoys me about

    What really annoys me about the Longridge cycle lane is they’ve stuck give way markings on the end of it.

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  12. andystow
    June 22, 2022 at 5:18 pm
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    I suspect that Irene does not

    I suspect that Irene does not normally wear a helmet while cycling.

    That is on backwards, right?

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    • Rendel Harris
      June 22, 2022 at 8:00 pm
      0

      andystow wrote:

      I suspect that Irene does not normally wear a helmet while cycling.

      That is on backwards, right?

      — andystow

      She’s having a chuckle, bless her, if you look closely you can see that she also clips her pump onto the valve without removing the dustcap. Legend!

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  13. adamrice
    June 22, 2022 at 6:29 pm
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    A Canadian “thin blue line”

    A Canadian “thin blue line” patch. I wouldn’t have imagined that would be A Thing, but there it is.

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the infamous grouse 2 minutes ago

i think i like the appearance better than then Scott one, though this seems to be a smaller size.

in: Leon Kaiser wins Sea Otter UCI Gravel race on unreleased 32-inch wheels and bike
Backladder 11 minutes ago

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckrer0yjp1zno?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-gb Perhaps the traders could ask for a bike lane so that people who don't need to use someone else's car park can visit their shops?

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Bmblbzzz 60 minutes ago

29 ain't dead who killed 29?

in: Leon Kaiser wins Sea Otter UCI Gravel race on unreleased 32-inch wheels and bike
Jack Sexty 1 hour ago

@captain_slog Apologies for the decapitation - we've added a nice Instagram post from Mr Kaiser to confirm he does have a head.

in: Leon Kaiser wins Sea Otter UCI Gravel race on unreleased 32-inch wheels and bike
Smoggysteve 1 hour ago

may as well of just stuck some drop handlebars on a hard tail for all it matters.

in: Leon Kaiser wins Sea Otter UCI Gravel race on unreleased 32-inch wheels and bike
AidanR 2 hours ago

@captain_slog he doesn't have a face, or even a head. That gave him the aero advantage he needed to win the sprint.

in: Leon Kaiser wins Sea Otter UCI Gravel race on unreleased 32-inch wheels and bike
captain_slog 2 hours ago

That is a nice looking bike but c'mon: guy wins Sea Otter and doesn't even get his face on road.cc. I guess I have to go to 32ingravel.cc for that.

in: Leon Kaiser wins Sea Otter UCI Gravel race on unreleased 32-inch wheels and bike
SVXY 13 hours ago

@SVXY There is an offence of careless cycling, s28 RTA 1988 https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/52/part/I/crossheading/cycling-offences-and-cycle-racing

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Rendel Harris 14 hours ago

@Bright Strider Made in China, so that excuse for the high price doesn't apply.

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chrisonabike 15 hours ago

@Rendel Harris it's just the silliness of "debating club" games - if not simply outright attention-seeking. Say a dozen irrelevant things and repeat them until someone knocks them down, then play logic on each ignoring any wider picture ("they don't say you can - ergo you cannot!" - but aside from that being incorrect the HC itself isn't all direct quotes from law and that section is in the "more like guidance" category). If someone points out you're factually incorrect ignore it, or demand "proof", or say that's your belief or that people feel that way. Let the other side waste energy on fact and logic. If you get stuck just bring in more tangential and/or made up stuff. Is this being done in the hope that it'll get picked up by some AI and misdirect that?

in: “Many cyclists are out to prove a point and deliberately get in the way”: Daily Mail readers rush to defend unrepentant driving instructor who struck grandmother from behind at 55mph before shouting “f***ing a***holes”

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