Get paid to report drivers parked in the cycle lane? YouTuber Casey Neistat explores NYC ‘bike lane bounty’; British Conti team Ribble Weldtite set to fold following sponsorship issues + more on the live blog
Would you like to see this in the UK? YouTuber Casey Neistat on New York's 'bike lane bounty'
We’ve reported on this before when it started in Austin, Texas, and also found out that one New Yorker claimed he had already made $64,000 by simply reporting badly-parked fellow residents. As Neistat says in the video above, NYC residents can get a 25% share of a $175 fine by reporting drivers who decide it’s a great idea to park in the cycle lane.
“The biggest safety issue with bike lanes are cars…” says Neistat, before crashing into a van nonchalantly nestled in a bike lane.
The video ends with… one of New York’s finest parked in the bike lane. Who’d have thought it?
British Conti team Ribble Weldtite set to fold following sponsorship issues
The steady demise of the British domestic racing scene continues, as UCI continental squad Ribble Weldtite confirmed yesterday that it will be folding at the end of the year.
Founded in 2017, the team – which has produced pros such as EF Education-EasyPost’s James Shaw and former Eolo–Kometa rider John Archibald – registered with the UCI in 2019, a year before bike maintenance manufacturer Weldtite joined as co-sponsor.
However, according to an email sent this week to riders and staff, advising them to seek other opportunities, sponsorship and funding issues have led to the team’s untimely demise, making Ribble Weldtite the third British-based UCI Continental squad to drop out of the sport since the start of the Covid-19 pandemic.
Sports director and former individual pursuit world champion Colin Sturgess explained to Cycling Weekly that a funding shortfall of between £50,000 and £80,000 – caused, the email claimed, due to the current economic uncertainty and the impact of Brexit on British manufacturers – has made ensuring the team’s future an impossible task.
Sad times. But a sincere thank you to @RibbleWeldtite Jack & Tom, all the staff, sponsors and last but by no means least, the amazing riders that I’ve been honoured to work with. I hope I’ve taught you swear profusely in many languages ❤️ https://t.co/41ppUfJhqV
— Col Sturgess (@ColinASturgess) October 18, 2022
“A little bit before the Tour of Britain, we all had a message from Tom [Timothy, general manager] which said, ‘Guys, just a heads up that there’s a fairly sizable shortfall in sponsorship for next year so you know, just be mindful that we’ll be looking for replacement sponsors’,” he said.
“We went into the race with that in mind, looking for a result and Jack [Rees, operations director] and Tom were working in the background to try to plug this shortfall if you will.
“Nobody wants to see the guys without a ride, I think most of the lads have managed to secure something but it’s just bloody difficult when there are only two or three conti teams around.”
And then there were three.
Ribble Weldtite Pro Cycling will fold at the end of the season, ten years after it began.
That leaves just three British men’s UCI Continental teams. As recently as 2019 there were six. https://t.co/HmmwBgdVta
— The British Continental (@BritishConti) October 18, 2022
The British Continental has reported that several of the team’s riders have secured a place on other teams, both home and abroad, for 2023:
While Harry Tanfield is rumoured to be joining a Dutch team.
DS Col Sturgess also has a team sorted for next year.
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— The British Continental (@BritishConti) October 18, 2022
Such a shame to hear the news today about @RibbleWeldtite. The team were always very friendly and accommodating to us whenever we wanted to speak to them
Those orange helmets will be sorely missed
— The TT Podcast 🚴 (@ttpdcst) October 18, 2022
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AI is sloppifying lots of different areas, and there are a bunch of people pushing it, and a great number more taking the lazy option. It's going to take time before societies start to really push back and rebalance the value they place on human produced content. It will get worse before it gets better.
@Dodonline The slant-parallelogram derailleur is relatively simple. The complexity comes when you bring in indexing. Having just rebuilt a Campag shifter to replace the shift-lever spring I can tell you that this is a complicated machine, but then an electronic system will need an equivalent for every function of the mechanical one in some form or other: some of which will be in electronics, some of which will be in software, some will be switching, some may involve radio transmission/reception, plus it will need an electric actuator to replace the mechanical effort of the human input. Compare that with a set of bar-end shifters in friction mode.
Perfect example of doorbell camera footage being used to pursue a criminal by passing the video evidence to police. Though in this case the police response has been woefull. Would any driver complaining about cyclists using camera footage to report them object to this case, or others where a different crime was caught on camera?
@open_roads "hurty words" - well, it's a lot easier to wrap up cases if the defendant has documented their own offences, of course. Of course it seems a large number of masked paramilitary types appearing and intimidating folks (the blackshorts) didn't get police priority (even with some advance notice), while nonviolent hippy types and old folks holding up not-very-hurty words written on paper did. So if you feel they're not just it's not that they're being partial, just arbitrary...
Institutionally anti-cyclist, but we'll never get an inquiry into it.
@Barraob1 Handy Guide to Met Police prioritisation: Violent Mugging / Bike Theft - Not a Priority Antisemetic marches / banners - Not a Priority Illegal eMotorbikes - Low / No Priority Drug dealing - Low Priority Hurty Words online - Top Priority This may be a little unfair but if they can't even be bothered to get the hirer details of a lime bike involved in a violent mugging they can hardly claim to be effective as a force.
"'Ello, 'ello, 'ello. Had our expensive bike stolen have we, sir?" "Maybe you should consider yourself fortunate to have been able to buy one sir? And think of those less privileged, sir. Also there are some would argue that you shouldn't be on the road because you don't pay road tax, as well as slowing motorists, sir." "I hope we didn't retaliate or use any foul or threatening language, sir. We will be checking doorbell cameras just in case, sir. We don't condone that type of behaviour."
Can you imagine if it was a car jacking incident with one of the thieves using a hire car, they'd just hired? Call me cynical, but I can't believe the Met wouldn't contact the hire car company a little quicker.
That brings it home rather too forcefully, just a few streets and half a mile away from my door. Thankfully an extremely uncommon event around here, in fact I can't actually recall such a thing happening in East Dulwich in the two decades since we moved to this particular (and particularly lovely) neighbourhood. Not that that is any consolation for the rider of course, for whom many sympathies. Absolutely disgraceful reaction from the police, imagine if someone had been pulled from their car by thieves who had then driven off with it, five will get you ten that the area would have been flooded with squad cars, they'd probably have sent the chopper up as well. It's an indication of how far down the priority list cyclists and bicycles are; most forces/officers seem to regard bikes as, in the phrase so beloved of motoring forums, "children's toys" and prioritise their theft accordingly.
If ever you needed proof of how seriously police treat bike theft, this is it. One of the bike hackers paid for a lime bike rental and two months on, nothing. Make a rude gesture and it's game over, tracked down in a matter of days.
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Saw that Casey Neistat video
Saw that Casey Neistat video yesterday.
We should definitely implement that scheme here for all parking offences.
Loved the video.
Loved the video.
Feels like I could probably afford to retire within a week or two if that was introduced here.
I’m looking out of my window
I’m looking out of my window at three vans parked on zebra crossing zigzags.
That would be a nice little earner without even leaving the house.
https://www.bournemouthecho
https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/17214762.jaiden-mangan-three-died-following-crash-wareham/
They never think there will be consequences.
I wouldn’t have to travel far
I wouldn’t have to travel far. Could take 2 weeks off and spend 6 hours down here for those days and equal my yearly wage.
Just to show how bad it is, just go back in the last few streetviews to see parking on this crossing seems endemic. The cars not on the crossing are on Double Yellows.
I thought that was supposed
ZigZags: I thought that was supposed to earn 3 stars on your licence, but I see it everyday!
I have been researching it.
I have been researching it.
It’s definitely 3 points on your license and, if I’ve interpreted the T’s+C’s correctly, an offence that can be uploaded to Operation Snap as a pedestrian.
Next time they try it I’m heading out for a little walk.
Rich_cb wrote:
I think we may have inadvertently stumbled across the answer to the cost of living crisis.
eburtthebike wrote:
I can see that leading to people waiting at prime locations for a poor, hard-working motorist to accidentally park in a dangerous spot. It’s a war on motorists, I tell you!
You know that’s how it would
You know that’s how it would be framed.
In reality it’s no different to employing private companies to enforce parking.
I reckon I could make about £100 every time I cycled to work, it would be brilliant.
Personally I would like to
Personally I would like to see a scheme where if you were to post a video/piece of evidence to a central website, if that resulted in a fine being issued to the driver concerned, you would get a percentage of the money generated.
That way, we would all have a stake in keeping the roads safe and have a way of making some money on the side.
Of course, we could get Lancs Police to staff the scheme….. that would kill it off before it even started. I hate to suggest it, but a private company (or better still a Police owned arms length company) would have an interest to fine as many people as possible to ensure their profits.
As they say, can’t pay the fine, don’t do the crime.
I agree it would be likely to
I agree it would be likely to have more success if run by a private company.
I think a ‘broken windows’ type approach to traffic offences is long overdue. This could be an easy first step.
Of course, we could get Lancs
Of course, we could get Lancs Police to staff the scheme….. that would kill it off before it even started
An outrageous suggestion, when they’re all working their fingers to the bone Fighting the Good Fight against the real cancer destroying our society: people wasting police time by reporting offences with indisputable evidence so that the only way the police can protect respectable hard-working Tory Brexiteer motorists against these blackguards is by wasting valuable photons directing all evidence straight to the bin. Mercedes HD59 FEG had managed 11 months perfectly well without MOT when detected and should soon make the complete year with the assistance of Lancashire Constabulary’s Pettyfogging Red Tape Busting Program
Some do get stopped
Some do get stopped eventually, though it is “Project Edward” at the moment https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/crime/fine-for-driver-stopped-in-west-stow-suffolk-9336362
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Get help.
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Whittingham closed some years ago, of course, but I’m sure that if you got yourself to RPH they would be very pleased to help you deal with your issues.
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Help with what exactly? Help
Help with what exactly? Help to write incoherent sentences ?
Help with what exactly? Help
Help with what exactly? Help to write incoherent sentences ?
Fear not on my behalf. Morons do not trouble me
I’ve come to admire your
I’ve come to admire your stoicism.
Are you seriously stating
Are you seriously stating someone else needs mental help?
There are a couple of
There are a couple of vehicles owned by a local. One, a very expensive Range Rover Vogue, ran out of VED in 2020, their other vehicle ran out in June this year. Despite one of their neighbours reporting it to the DVLA and police, they remain untaxed, and in daily use.
No futher action.
One, a very expensive Range
One, a very expensive Range Rover Vogue, ran out of VED in 2020, their other vehicle ran out in June this year
I’ll ‘see’ your cases and raise you MV57 GXO and PJ07 NFP, where Lancashire’s Comedy Constabulary is proud to ensure that no action on these vehicles will be taken. I’ll spare everyone the photos of these vehicles on the road regularly around Garstang
I feel I already have a stake
I feel I already have a stake in making the roads safer, I want to get home with my body parts in roughly the same places as they were when I left. The issue is that too many road users (predominantly those protected by large metal boxes) don’t think about their own safety or that of others.
Rich_cb wrote:
The advantage of not handing it over to a private company is that anyone who cares or wants a bit of cash can get involved in it. Presumably you’d only need a semi-modern phone to snap pictures and submit it, so there’d be a lot of people that could easily supplement their income if they have spare time. A company would just skim some/most of the profit from the fines.
You can guarantee it would be
You can guarantee it would be framed as a war on motorists.
Yet I know I could walk out of my front door and immediately spot multiple cars/vans parked on double yellow lines or on the pavement EVERY single time I set foot outside.
I need to go out at lunch time for a walk to the shop and if I see fewer than 6 instances of double yellow/pavement parking I will be surprised
I would love a scheme like
I would love a scheme like this. I wonder if it would change parking/driving enforcement in profound ways though. E.g., Airbnb began as a way for people to rent out spare rooms/sofa beds but proved so popular that people started to build businesses around it. Eventually it transformed the hotel/holiday home industry, affected house prices, and changed the way buildings in urban areas are used. Would a bounty scheme create a new industry of “freelance” parking wardens and traffic officers? Would that be a bad thing?
It 100% would not be a bad
It 100% would not be a bad thing.
If anybody with a smart phone could report you and get you a fine then I’m sure detection rates would rocket and offending rates would plummet.
Rich_cb wrote:
Just don’t tell the Usual Suspects here on road.cc…
I’d actually be intrigued to
I’d actually be intrigued to hear their take on this…
Rich_cb wrote:
“Evil car-hating grasses, the lot of ’em!”
I regularly report illegal
I regularly report illegal parking on my street. Council raised £575 last year from my calls.
I may well do this.
I may well do this.
Only two vans now but they’ve been there for hours and there’s a school a few hundred yards away so that crossing will be busy soon.
I regularly report illegal
I regularly report illegal parking on my street. Council raised £575 last year from my calls
This must be some Reporting Shangri-La, where action is taken against cash-yielding offences! Lancashire Constabulary has forgone at least £50,000 by ignoring all my reports (OK, so I’m cheating by using the maximum £1000 fine for evading MOT, but many of them have no VED either)- makes you suspect that officers are making money personally by not taking action. This is for variety- BMW X5 PO66 CUH has never had an MOT, and is probably an unmarked police vehicle
Council, not police. That’s
Council, not police. That’s the difference
Personally I would be in
Personally I would be in favour of such a scheme and not just for parking in bike lanes. As with others I believe it would need to be run by a private arm’s length organization to be properly resourced. However I disagree it would be a get rich quick scheme. As with an army of volunteers out there to spot them behaviours would change and cases to spot would fall. As against the present when there is quite simply no deterrent.
Look how wide those ‘Merican
Look how wide those ‘Merican segregated bike lanes are!
Have you seen how wide
Have you seen how wide ‘Mericans are though?
With apologies to all Americans for engaging in national stereotypes.
SimoninSpalding wrote:
Do you mean the residents of the USA? Peruvians (also Ecuador, Brazil etc) have a relatively low rate of obesity – certainly lower then the UK.
On another topic I raised the
On another topic I raised the idea of cars being obligated run front and rear Dashcams, with a requirement for the owners to retain the footage and produce it in the event of an incident. Failure to produce enforced by points and fine at least as large as the maximum for the offence as an incentive to earn a discount by producing even if guilty. Make it a requirement for getting insurance.
Combine that with reporting of infractions, then it becomes trivial to police the streets, with drivers always conscious that they are carrying their own snitch.
I would go further. Every car
I would go further. Every car should have an individual log in so we know who is driving the car at the time. It also should have to record GPS data for all trips. Then, a few times a year the driver should have to upload details of the trips they have taken to a central data base which would pick one randomly to be examed further.
If any drivig offenses were found during this examination, then fines should be forthcoming. Can’t pay the fine… don’t do the crime. No, not the war on motorist, just a way of making people think before they drive at excessive speeds etc. You would also need laws to make tampering with this data an offence.
It would also be good for matching reported crimes to actual data… so, prove you weren’t in the wrong then…. (yes, I know this goes against the normal way courts work but then saving lifes is more important).
essexian wrote:
I don’t agree with keeping GPS data for all trips as that’s ripe for abuse by malicious government and/or police. For the purposes of solving crime, maybe require that the last two weeks of data is kept locally that the police could demand if they had reasonable suspicion, but otherwise they can just do fishing expeditions and pin crimes on people that just happened to drive near the scene of a crime.
essexian wrote:
Not sure we need to go as far as all trips saved and uploaded, why not just a black box that automatically sends an alert to the authorities when speeding, RLJ etc is detected?
It’s a bit Orwellian, but
It’s a bit Orwellian, but essexian is even worse. I couldn’t support anything like this. Not because I drive badly or am up to no good, but I would be tracked everywhere, no thanks
Any system would be subject
Any system would be subject to some abuse but given that the vast majority of motorists seek to abuse the privilege of driving on a daily basis, then the idea that there is an obligation for a privately held record of activity that can be demanded where there is evidence of abuse is potentially more proportionate than installing CCTV everywhere, where people can be monitored regardless and without any knowledge that this is occurring. At least if you don’t want to be tracked, you can use other means of transport, which is not necessarily the case with public CCTV systems.
Yes, such a system would be open to abuse. However, watching 2 or 3 episodes of UK Dashcams should remind you just how bad driving has become in the UK.
You are right, it is
You are right, it is Orwellian but only a random selected drive would be picked to be examined: the rest would be stored locally so Big Brother would not be able to get hold of it.
There are points to be worked out but if you knew that there was a chance of you being caught if you broke the law, then I would hope it would have a positive impact on poor driving etc.
….. Or, we could always employ more Police so there is one about when you need one?
Digital tachograph like
Digital tachograph like trucks now have.
Thumbprint scan to start the record, and before the car will start.
Automatic data transfer via SMS at the end of each journey.
Data is automatically processed by servers, with the system automatically issuing speeding tickets based on the location of each change in speed … wouldn’t be that difficult, and would be relatively easy to manage.
Logged in driver becomes responsible for all and any offence committed during their log in.
Points and bans automatically logged to the drivers profile, so the car won’t start /exceed speed limit etc for that logged in user.
As far as I can tell, the
As far as I can tell, the bike-lane bounty in Austin TX (where I live) is only a recommendation so far, and hasn’t been implemented. I need to do some more digging.
Well the walking pseudonym
Well the walking pseudonym that is Grant Schapps is now home secretary.
A envisage announcements on crack-downs on uninsured and unlicensed scroflaw cyclist.
That NY ticket idea is great.
That NY ticket idea is great.