The best ever ‘retro’ cycling product?

@Terry Hutt haven't tried them on a 7kg carbon special, but "they have roadies too" in NL cycle lanes (and kids cycling, and even people in wheelchairs, on rollerskates etc) ... so I guess you're out of luck with your dastardly "make em wait" plan. OTOH the situation should not arise as I believe 10% is outside specification for Dutch hills *. * At least in most of NL. Your slopes may vary in Limburg, also some canal bridges may have sharp (albeit very short) gradients. If you travel to overseas Dutch territory (eg. Saba, not the flat islands just off the coast) all bets are off. And of course you never get to the top of the "Dutch hill" (the wind, them windmills weren't decoration).

@the infamous grouse that would be the same Faith Currie that said:

Jolly glad these work on the flat and up the hills. I might buy some as I’m tired of taking two sets with me on most rides and swapping between the ones that only work on the flat and the ones that only work on hills as the terrain changes. Especially as I get mucky hands moving the cassette over as well.

@Surreyrider Probably still walk free from court the same day. Plenty of drivers do. It's fucking ridiculous.

No justice as usual. At least we can take solace that the perp seems to have aged about 20 years in the 2 years this has taken to come to trial.

I wonder if Mavic still chuck their spares away after a while, refusing to sell them to bike shops and thereby forcing the customer to buy new wheels? Possibly that decision was a reason why they initially went bust?

Was the judge breathalysed?

@mitsky “Blood delivery driver who ran over cyclist jailed” But not for very long, and he'll clearly be released at the first possible opportunity in about 21 months. No driving ban, so he'll then be able to drive straight away. I wonder if the Police New Variant 'have to live with this for the rest of his life' Excuse (he will have to face the youths he mentors, who may well cheer him for doing it, after his version of 'mentoring') helped to get him this preferential treatment after deliberately swerving his van into a cyclist causing extremely serious injuries? Mitigation for having 8 children and just driving a van containing blood for a hospital?!! Was he simply trying to ensure a good use for the blood he was driving around? Would the offence have been viewed more seriously if he'd swerved into a cyclist of 74 with 135 donations to his credit, with 2 of the last 3 going to Liverpool University Hospital? Would it bollocks!

All the more of a reason to always wear a helmet, obviously the cyclist thought he was entitled and invincible. Now after the fracture he must wear a helmet just to walk down the road. The car driver pays vehicle tax so has the right to do whatever he wants and the law will back him right up to the hilt..

It's a bit scary to know the UK justice system let's people off with a slap on the wrist for attempted manslaughter! I don't think I'll be riding a bike if I visit your fair country! That was unbelievable!